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Just to say I've never used the Gear with a Samsung device. I also updated it immediately to Tizen so have no idea what battery life would have been like on Android.
I'm using a Moto G LTE and the gear Manager and Stub apk. It's not rooted or modded in any way. It works fantastically but I'm finding that the battery doesn't even last a day. I have the Gear set up so it only lights up when I press the standby button so aside from incompatibilities or some problem with the flash I've no idea what the problem is. Just wanted to know if I should EXPECT poor battery life with a non-Samsung phone paired to the watch or if I should investigate re-flashing or going back to Android. The Gear is a lovely device but is a bit useless if I can't make it through the day. I'm already down to 91% and I only took it off charge two hours ago.
Does anyone have any advice? If I can expect the battery to be rubbish I might just order an Android Wear watch; though I actually prefer the extra functionality of the Gear.
Thanks in advance.
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leoni1980 said:
Just to say I've never used the Gear with a Samsung device. I also updated it immediately to Tizen so have no idea what battery life would have been like on Android.
I'm using a Moto G LTE and the gear Manager and Stub apk. It's not rooted or modded in any way. It works fantastically but I'm finding that the battery doesn't even last a day. I have the Gear set up so it only lights up when I press the standby button so aside from incompatibilities or some problem with the flash I've no idea what the problem is. Just wanted to know if I should EXPECT poor battery life with a non-Samsung phone paired to the watch or if I should investigate re-flashing or going back to Android. The Gear is a lovely device but is a bit useless if I can't make it through the day. I'm already down to 91% and I only took it off charge two hours ago.
Does anyone have any advice? If I can expect the battery to be rubbish I might just order an Android Wear watch; though I actually prefer the extra functionality of the Gear.
Thanks in advance.
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Do you have Bluetooth tethering enabled and so you use Bluetooth often?
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Do you have Bluetooth tethering enabled and so you use Bluetooth often?
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How do you mean? The only thing I use Bluetooth for is the watch, other than the odd occasion at home when I connect a Bluetooth speaker.
The only notifications I have it set to send to the device are Robird and Hangouts. Nothing else is set to notify me. Not even Gmail.
It's not tethered to the internet via my phone if that's what you mean. Not even sure that's possible on Tizen. It just is set to send notifications from two ticked third party apps and for phone calls. Brightness is set to 3 and auto wake with hand movement is switched off. Battery now down to 82% with basically no use whatsoever other than being connected.
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How do you mean? The only thing I use Bluetooth for is the watch, other than the odd occasion at home when I connect a Bluetooth speaker.
The only notifications I have it set to send to the device are Robird and Hangouts. Nothing else is set to notify me. Not even Gmail.
It's not tethered to the internet via my phone if that's what you mean. Not even sure that's possible on Tizen. It just is set to send notifications from two ticked third party apps and for phone calls. Brightness is set to 3 and auto wake with hand movement is switched off. Battery now down to 82% with basically no use whatsoever other than being connected.
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Yes, I was talking about Bluetooth tethering to the internet which can really affect battery. On Android (not Tizen), I would expect battery usage to be about 2% per hour with very light usage.
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Yes, I was talking about Bluetooth tethering to the internet which can really affect battery. On Android (not Tizen), I would expect battery usage to be about 2% per hour with very light usage.
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OK, I did a hard reset via the recovery menu on the Gear and it seems to have improved things. Currently on 96% after over 4 hours. Still only have two apps set to give notifications - SMS and WhatsApp - and only when phone screen is off. Also still have auto screen activate switched off. Not really sure what sort of battery life to expect but this is better at least!
Hi guys,
I have had the phone for a while, and it is perfect. The only issue I have had (same as others), is the battery sometimes seems tempremental. However, I noticed this weekend, it really lasted as expected.
I check every morning, the phone would stay awake for hours (disabled app after app, uninstalled etc, factory reset), same problem persisted. A lot of the apps (Enterprise service for example) like to override their deactivation, which is always fun.
Anyway, I realised that I connect my bluetooth headset to listen to music, and once I disconnect it the wakelock doesn't go away (I am not rooted, but based on two weeks of observations this is 90% confident hunch). Only restarting the phone, would cause the activity to stop and normal battery drain to resume.
So, I reach out to you guys, is there a way to stop the bluetooth from somehow remaining active after I disconnect the device, or whatever wakelock affects it. I am not ready to root this phone yet, but if there is no other option...
TL;DR connect my bluetooth headset every morning, keeps the phone awake even after disconnecting, (and turning bluetooth off). can you please help?
Thanks...
Looks you're on your own with that problem. I keep BT on at all times, connecting&disconnecting flawless to the hands-free of my car as well as the BT headset in my office. No such thing like battery drain anywhere.
Raza46 said:
Hi guys,
I have had the phone for a while, and it is perfect. The only issue I have had (same as others), is the battery sometimes seems tempremental. However, I noticed this weekend, it really lasted as expected.
I check every morning, the phone would stay awake for hours (disabled app after app, uninstalled etc, factory reset), same problem persisted. A lot of the apps (Enterprise service for example) like to override their deactivation, which is always fun.
Anyway, I realised that I connect my bluetooth headset to listen to music, and once I disconnect it the wakelock doesn't go away (I am not rooted, but based on two weeks of observations this is 90% confident hunch). Only restarting the phone, would cause the activity to stop and normal battery drain to resume.
So, I reach out to you guys, is there a way to stop the bluetooth from somehow remaining active after I disconnect the device, or whatever wakelock affects it. I am not ready to root this phone yet, but if there is no other option...
TL;DR connect my bluetooth headset every morning, keeps the phone awake even after disconnecting, (and turning bluetooth off). can you please help?
Thanks...
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You are not alone!! Please take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help/bt-wakelock-z3-deep-sleep-t3059084
Unfortunately lollipop did not solve it.
I still have no idea what is causing it! It does not look to be a popular issue, this is why I hope it is an app. It could also be an HW issue.
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sxtester said:
Looks you're on your own with that problem. I keep BT on at all times, connecting&disconnecting flawless to the hands-free of my car as well as the BT headset in my office. No such thing like battery drain anywhere.
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It could be you've not noticed it!!
This is killing my battery. Is anyone having this issue?
Nada boss.
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Well that's the top on my list of my battery usage for the last 4 days even after rebooting the phone couple of times. The only way to prevent it is shutting down the BT but I don't want to manage my BT all the time.
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Just saw your post. I am also having this issue. To test, with BlueTooth on and the phone idle with screen off, I was burning 3-4% an hour. Battery drain was worse if I actually used the phone. Turn off BT and I'm around 1-1.5% an hour. The keep awake percentage with BT on was something like 75-80% awake (the bar on Battery Info looked almost solid). Now that BT is off, the phone wakes up a few times an hour when idle/screen off.
I previously had a Droid Razr Maxx HD and kept BT on all the time with no real effect on battery drain. I had BT paired to my car radio for hands free and to a Motorola Keylink (using the Moto Connect app) for SmartLock. I'd like to keep BT on all the time for the KeyLink/SmartLock feature in Lollipop, but not with that kind of battery drain.
Have you had any luck figuring out how to get BT to work without the Keep Awake?
Has anyone find out what's causing this?
I'm having the same issue - seems to have just started within the past week or so - anyone know what's going on?
Yeah I am manually turning off my Bluetooth when not in use again. Haven't had to do this on any phone since ICS.
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The same issue just started for me today. I may have found the cause and (at least temporary) solution. My phone is no longer constantly awake and Bluetooth awake time has stopped increasing.
Cause: power cycling the phone while Bluetooth is on
Solution: turn bluetooth off before power cycling the phone
This is just a rudimentary discovery, but if people can confirm if this also works for them we can maybe get closer to a real cause/solution for this.
edit: False alarm. Bluetooth is now keeping the phone awake again, even without a reboot. Gonna try changing around smartlock settings to see if this helps.
Two days ago, I disabled the settings to let smartlock unlock my phone when in range of my watch. I did not reboot, however. That evening, the phone ran out of power and shut down. Since then, it's been fine. Phone still shows awake all the time, but the battery usage has been much more reasonable (20 hours use out of it vs. 12). Once I verify that it's working reliably, i'll re-enable each setting separately to try to figure out what's going on.
"Bluetooth Share" draining battery...even after full wipe and flash from 5.1.1 to 6.0
Hey guys - for the last few weeks I've noticed "Bluetooth Share" as the top culprit for my battery drain...haven't had this problem before and can only fix it by turning off Bluetooth...I'm accustomed to leaving Bluetooth on 24/7 because it's a pain in the butt to turn it on and off every time I get into my car, and the battery drain has never been significant.
Anyways, I was eager to update to 6.0, figuring that would cure the problem...but after wiping, flashing, wiping again...Bluetooth Share is still killing my battery! The only Bluetooth item I have paired is my car stereo.
See the attached screenshots.
Please let me know if you have any advice for solving this. Thanks!
I had the same issue turned out to be the app "Tasker." Dunno if you have that app at all but I figured I'd say since I had exactly the same issue and deleting some random profile I had setup for something that didn't have anything to do with bluetooth ended up fixing it.
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I had the same issue turned out to be the app "Tasker." Dunno if you have that app at all but I figured I'd say since I had exactly the same issue and deleting some random profile I had setup for something that didn't have anything to do with bluetooth ended up fixing it.
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Hmm I hope I don't have to go through the painful process of uninstalling all my apps until it stops! I don't have Tasker installed right now so maybe it's something else...thanks for the heads up.
exactly same problem here...have to say that first days on android 6 didn't notice this wakelock, but started after second charge.
i am also using tasker to change the audio setting when i connect to my car bluetooth, but also uses android smart lock to disable security code with my pebble.
did you try to disable bluetooth scanning from location settings menu?
beren said:
exactly same problem here...have to say that first days on android 6 didn't notice this wakelock, but started after second charge.
i am also using tasker to change the audio setting when i connect to my car bluetooth, but also uses android smart lock to disable security code with my pebble.
did you try to disable bluetooth scanning from location settings menu?
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Yeah that's the first thing I tried - disabling that Bluetooth scanning setting - but it didn't change anything.
Have you tried disabling Tasker to see if it fixes your problem?
not yet, i am going to do and check in the next hour.
btw it's strange that this problem didn't come out since the first charge, as i activated tasker immediately...
this is my first charge on android M:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63262307&postcount=2610
disabled only the tasker profile that checks for bluetooth interface that i have in my car and seems that the problem is solved....now i have 8 alarms/hour made from bluetooth.
don't know if i should put tasker in the whitelisted apps for Doze, maybe this would help...
beren said:
disabled only the tasker profile that checks for bluetooth interface that i have in my car and seems that the problem is solved....now i have 8 alarms/hour made from bluetooth.
don't know if i should put tasker in the whitelisted apps for Doze, maybe this would help...
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I'm curious if we have the same sort of issue - I know I don't have Tasker installed but another app may be doing the same thing...however I did have this issue on 5.1.1 as well, so I don't believe it's Doze causing it.
Seems tasker is not the problem after a while the wakelock comes again, now I am focusing on smart lock, will try to remove all trusted devices...
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Having similar issue on Nexus 5 with 6.0. Just removed android wear and disabled smart unlock. In looking around, it seems like many things seem like a fix but come back after the device is charged. Or certain bluetooth devices are connected and then disconnected. On disconnect, the wakelock occurs so rooted users are killing bluetooth and having luck with that. Also found this older, but still active group. https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=87778 many there have found apps that are causing the issue. GassBuddy being number one.
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Having similar issue on Nexus 5 with 6.0. Just removed android wear and disabled smart unlock. In looking around, it seems like many things seem like a fix but come back after the device is charged. Or certain bluetooth devices are connected and then disconnected. On disconnect, the wakelock occurs so rooted users are killing bluetooth and having luck with that. Also found this older, but still active group. https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=87778 many there have found apps that are causing the issue. GassBuddy being number one.
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Ooh interesting - I use GasBuddy - I wonder what it needs Bluetooth for...
jeffreii said:
Ooh interesting - I use GasBuddy - I wonder what it needs Bluetooth for...
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Wow I just tested 10 minutes with Gasbuddy enabled...then froze it with TiBu and tested 10 more minutes...and the Bluetooth Share drain was down from 14% to 0.3%...
What a shame that the new app permissions in 6.0 don't allow you to take away Bluetooth access...I really like GasBuddy...time to email the dev.
Great find! Thanks for the help!
may i ask if you see bluetooth in android battery stats? because i don't see it, but i notice wakelocks only in BBS.
btw for me it's related to pebble time, if i leave the smartwatch disconnected the wakelocks go down. Will try to remove android wear as suggested...
beren said:
may i ask if you see bluetooth in android battery stats? because i don't see it, but i notice wakelocks only in BBS.
btw for me it's related to pebble time, if i leave the smartwatch disconnected the wakelocks go down. Will try to remove android wear as suggested...
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For me it was "Bluetooth Share" in GSAM Battery Monitor. I don't recall if I saw it in the normal battery stats or not.
I was slowly picking my way through apps, uninstalling and watching the bluetooth usage. I lost patience after removing maybe 15 apps, I don't use any of the "usual suspects". I ended up doing a complete wipe and flashing the 6.0 factory image and am now adding apps back in one by one. For reference, I enable all services and do not turn them off... Wifi, bluetooth, location, Wifi scanning etc. I am too lazy to turn them off and on.
Day 1 - Nothing but factory installed apps, google authenticator and bar code scanner. No bluetooth devices paired but bluetooth in on. Battery last forever, not wake lock.
Day 2 - Added strava app and connected to bluetooth HRM. No wakelock, same battery performance
Day 3 - Added android wear, moto connect and paired moto360. No wake lock and bluetooth keep awake is increasing by about 1 minute per hour so battery life is looking good. Have not enabled smart lock yet, will do that tomorrow.
I keep bluetooth on all the time and complete a full 24 hour cycle with full charge just to make sure that is not part of the problem. Based on my experience, the issue is not the OS or android wear. That leaves misbehaving apps, you just have to find which one through trial and error.
thanks for reporting, can you check how many alarms/hour you have from bluetooth?
Not sure what you mean by alarms/hour. It takes forever for bluetooth to show on my usage now. Yesterday bluetooth got to 2% of total usage for the day.
On day 4, Wi-Fi started rising to the top of the battery used list. Came out of nowhere and it seems like it is an actual bug Google is working on. The fix for me was 3 steps:
1. In Settings/Location click triple dot in top right and select Scanning, disable Wi-Fi scanning
2. In Settings/Backup & reset select Network setting reset
3. Reboot phone
This greatly improved battery life for me. The change is dramatic, I barely went under 50% per day over the weekend. I would suggest everyone try it, it took 4 days to show up but after the battery is outperforming my clean install with no apps. I still have all other services turned on.
I have this same issue!! I Have had the 6 for almost a year now and sinse day 1 I have had BT on almost 24/7. I have my MiBand connected the entire time, LG Tones and Tones+, a couple hours a day also connected to my vehicle (when tones aren't in use) and BT has never ever been a battery drain.
Switch to 6.0 BAM Bluetooth all over the place! I do not have any new apps, no android wear, google fit, pebble, gas buddy etc installed. Nothing new aside the same devices and apps that were there before 6.0.
But at the same time, by battery isn't lasting any less than before, at times a bit longer too (20+ hours) So I don't know if the BT battery data is just skewed? BBS, GSam and Phone all have different stats. I'll post screenshots in a few.
Today isn't the best example of screenshots as the first hour unplugged I had WiFi on (and not connected, forgot to turn off) GPS, MapMyRide app running GPS, Bluetooth and Google Play music all on at the same time (screen off though) and then I downloaded a Rom and Gapps but I'm showing the differences in the battery stats I get
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Today isn't the best example of screenshots as the first hour unplugged I had WiFi on (and not connected, forgot to turn off) GPS, MapMyRide app running GPS, Bluetooth and Google Play music all on at the same time (screen off though) and then I downloaded a Rom and Gapps but I'm showing the differences in the battery stats I get
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It seems as though certain apps are not working well with 6.0 and causing this issue...GasBuddy seems to be the most popular. I haven't had any problems since I disabled it last week.
You might have to manually determine which app is causing it by uninstalling/reinstalling apps until you find the culprit...
If you do, please post it here so others can find the answer without going through that hassle!
The other choice is to wait until the app gets fixed or Google issues a fix.
Anyone get the dreaded note 8 overheating message yet? I just had a warning pop up an hour ago. Was using appradio Facebook messenger android auto with wi-fi Bluetooth and navigation turned on and screen at a little less than half brightness.. Should it be overheating like this? Kept warning me to shut everything down and was hot to the touch. There was an update for 7.1.1 just yesterday that I installed, could this be the cause?
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Anyone get the dreaded note 8 overheating message yet? I just had a warning pop up an hour ago. Was using appradio Facebook messenger android auto with wi-fi Bluetooth and navigation turned on and screen at a little less than half brightness.. Should it be overheating like this? Kept warning me to shut everything down and was hot to the touch. There was an update for 7.1.1 just yesterday that I installed, could this be the cause?
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"The dreaded note 8 overheating message yet"? Sounds like you have either a lemon or managed to push the device pasts is capabilities IF that's even possible? Its new to me.
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Megatron84 said:
Anyone get the dreaded note 8 overheating message yet? I just had a warning pop up an hour ago. Was using appradio Facebook messenger android auto with wi-fi Bluetooth and navigation turned on and screen at a little less than half brightness.. Should it be overheating like this? Kept warning me to shut everything down and was hot to the touch. There was an update for 7.1.1 just yesterday that I installed, could this be the cause?
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with the s8 plus when it came out, I think some people were having some issues with the sdcards, if u have one inside, remove it restart and test for a bit and see if it fixes that issue.
ive got a 400gb sd card with many apps moved to it and running the phone on high performance mode and not ever seen this error...
I've never even felt the thing get warm.. Unless you are saying a 20°c battery and 23°c CPU is hot to you..
I was driving with the Note8 in the qi-infinity fast wireless car charger the other day. Was running waze and got the message "Battery overheating. Charging suspended!" I would acknowledge the message and after a few minutes it would come back. Unplugged the charger and just let it run on battery power. Didn't do it on the way home. All I could figure was the fact that the sun was shining through the windshield hitting the back of the phone while it was charging was creating more heat than it liked. Driving home the sun was behind me and not hitting the phone.
I'm out camping, laying in the sun streaming dual BT through poweramp on hi res. Weak signal and doing light browsing and my N8 is just warm, not hot. Wouldn't consider it close to over heating.