I would like to know what the favorite roms are for original features. When I say original features, I mean features that aren't particularly prevalent on most roms. A lot of roms offer roughly the same feature set in regards to customization (and there's nothing wrong with that), but is there a particular rom that stands out to you that offers original features or optimization that you just can't find on other roms. I've always been a fan of paranoid android but they've been slightly MIA of late. My apologies if this thread already exists, I did a search beforehand to no avail. Just looking for opinions! Thanks!
You're asking conflicting questions. Slim ROMs are by far the most original, coming up with stuff specifically that other developers aren't but then their ideas are so good, they end up in most other ROMs anyway so yeah, where as slim are IMHO the most original, they're never different for long - and nor is any other ROM
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You're asking conflicting questions. Slim ROMs are by far the most original, coming up with stuff specifically that other developers aren't but then their ideas are so good, they end up in most other ROMs anyway so yeah, where as slim are IMHO the most original, they're never different for long - and nor is any other ROM
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Fair point! I suppose I wasn't wording that quite right. I guess I was asking more what you answered. Where do the ideas and features originate, and what roms are more than just Kangs? Thanks for your reply!
nexus 6 original development threads http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/orig-development
all other ROMs are just kangs, to various degrees(even these ROMs are partially kangs).
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I'm new to android and am interested in some of the functionality custom roms offer, but I'm reluctant to give up the stability/base functionality of the stock rom. I have been looking at CM, but hear of various minor hardware related issues with bluetooth, camera, sound, etc.
Is it expected that all of these issues will be ironed out over time? If so, what would be a reasonable expectation for how long it would take for the stability and functionality of, say, CM to be comparable to stock?
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I'm new to android and am interested in some of the functionality custom roms offer, but I'm reluctant to give up the stability/base functionality of the stock rom. I have been looking at CM, but hear of various minor hardware related issues with bluetooth, camera, sound, etc.
Is it expected that all of these issues will be ironed out over time? If so, what would be a reasonable expectation for how long it would take for the stability and functionality of, say, CM to be comparable to stock?
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You should ask this in the CM threads. The developer himself would be the best person to answer your questions.
Hey, thanks. This has become clear since this is the second forum I've asked in and gotten no replies.
I'm having some trouble figuring out which thread to post to. I'm looking at, eg: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2414819&highlight=cm
But that doesn't seem like it's the "official" thread for CM on the One. Is there such a thing, or is there more than one version of CM 10.2 for the One?
I'm finding the huge list of ROMs on that forum confusing...the variety is just overwhelming. Are most of them personalized tweaks of a smaller set of core ROMs?
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Hey, thanks. This has become clear since this is the second forum I've asked in and gotten no replies.
I'm having some trouble figuring out which thread to post to. I'm looking at, eg: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2414819&highlight=cm
But that doesn't seem like it's the "official" thread for CM on the One. Is there such a thing, or is there more than one version of CM 10.2 for the One?
I'm finding the huge list of ROMs on that forum confusing...the variety is just overwhelming. Are most of them personalized tweaks of a smaller set of core ROMs?
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here is the official one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2382691
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here is the official one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2382691
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I see that thread is about nightly builds, and it seems like it's pretty experimental, with regressions not uncommon. Is there something like a release build that is considered the most stable to date?
Is 10.2 considered to be more stable than 10.1 at this point?
Hello there, yes 10.2 CM is in nightly stages but is running great on my phone so far. Recently they just ironed out some proximity sensor issues that was annoying. And yes some things can be buggy or not work, but on my end it's running smoothly. I think the worst parts are fixed by now.
Official release will come. This is CM we are talking about .
AOSP Roms just needs a lot of testing since they are built from scratch.
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AOSP roms will never be as stable or offer the same amount of functionality as stock, but they can be faster and smoother so it just depends what you prefer
Hi I know this is covered in the FAQ regarding the definition of Original Android Development but I can't find the answer to this: are "Original Android Development" roms less stable and more risky than the regular Android Development roms? Should I be expecting much more risk if I use a rom like PAC Man instead of something from the Android Development forum?
Any rom can be risky lol.
Most roms in the Origanal Dev section are build from source meaning pure android no crap over-layed(sense) You will see custom kernels there, also which are also built from source.
As long as you are flashing roms from the Sprint forums to a Sprint One you will be fine just make sure you have a nandroid backup just in case there is a problem
Stock roms are more stable for my experiences.
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In my opinion, there is very little that is truly 'original' these days; it's like rock n roll, everything has been done at least once. But, as a rule, custom non-Sense or HTC based ROMs will typically be more cutting edge, but will also have more bugs. More stability will usually be found on stock or stock-based ROMs.
It depends on the device my cousin has the HTC One and can't boot Dirty Unicorn but I can and pacman runs smoother on his phone.
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Thanks everyone. That's what I figured - it sounds like using original roms tend to be buggier as a general rule of thumb? I like cutting edge stuff (I used to have an HTC EVO and had MIUI which was great but always had some shortcoming like no 4G).
Right now, what are considered the best roms for HTC One? I guess I'd like to know a few just very stable ROMs that I should resort if I need a stable rom and then some of the most innovative roms that are really pushing the limit with cool designs, etc.
Also, isn't it a pain in the ass that you have redownload all your apps and adjust your settings when you flash a new rom? Is there a way to just restore your apps and settings onto a new rom?
People will tell you to flash the roms yourself, and asking which roms are best is generally frowned upon. I've seen threads closed because of that question. Having said that, and hopefully not breaking any rules or stepping on any toes, it looks like a lot of people are experiencing issues with 5.5 based roms. Personally, I've been using the Bad Boyz 5.0 rom with some tweaks from omj's mod pack for the past few weeks, and have found it to be solid and bug free.
Lots of ROMs are being developed for our device (go devs, keep them coming), some stock, others with (new) features.
Is there a place where we can compare these ROMs based on their features?
Scanning all the threads, doesn't really give a clear view.
I know the best way to know what a ROM is all about is to actually try it, but a comparison chart would provide a nice shortlist to start from.
Read the op of each rom thread? Usually tells you the features.
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I guess if someone had time they could do this for the more popular ROMs
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Read the op of each rom thread? Usually tells you the features.
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Some do this better than others. Many make you go to their website & click around till you find something. Others list a bunch of stuff that many of us have no idea what most of them do. So a thread / wiki that gives the character & main features in a simplified way would be very helpful and welcome.
As great as the idea seems. Making a wiki or a video for a rom gets outdated quick. Roms and kernels are always changing day by day, new features are being added and removed.
The best advice I can give you is that, download the roms that interest you. If they interest you, flash them and give them a try for 10-15 minutes without installing all of your apps. If you happen to not like the rom, simply do a nandroid restore to a previous backup.
The roms in original development tend to make their own code and development tends to kang code (use code from others).
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Time sure is a factor. And agreed, ROMs and their features could change fairly quick.
Trail and error (so to speak) would still be the best way. As a new Nexus user I'm not familiar with the "popular" ROMs and their devs, so it's pretty overwhelming with all those ROMs to choose from.
If only there was a uniform way to setup the OP for each ROM on XDA.
Thanks for chiming in guys!
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Time sure is a factor. And agreed, ROMs and their features could change fairly quick.
Trail and error (so to speak) would still be the best way. As a new Nexus user I'm not familiar with the "popular" ROMs and their devs, so it's pretty overwhelming with all those ROMs to choose from.
If only there was a uniform way to setup the OP for each ROM on XDA.
Thanks for chiming in guys!
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One of the ways you can see if a ROM is popular is by the number of posts and views in that thread as well as how active it is. Some of the roms have YouTube videos for the kit kat version or even lollipop so that can give you a jist of the rom.
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Yeah, I usually skimmed the threads on number of views.
It now brought me to Pure Shamu. Seems to be one of the most popular ones at the moment.
I'm gonna follow that thread and in a week or so I'll give it a whirl. It has some mods I'm looking for, like clock and battery icon mods.
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Yeah, I usually skimmed the threads on number of views.
It now brought me to Pure Shamu. Seems to be one of the most popular ones at the moment.
I'm gonna follow that thread and in a week or so I'll give it a whirl. It has some mods I'm looking for, like clock and battery icon mods.
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A lot of other roms have that as well. [emoji14]
I personally use euphoria which is formerly known as Mahdi rom. Pretty popular rom and gets updated weekly or so.
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Hi guys,
I know its really hard to create a new ROM and updating it and giving to users. But since the launch of Android 5.0 Lollipop I don't find difference between all major ROMs.
If there is difference, it is of the Bugs. Some ROMs got big bugs and some with small bugs. But rest is same. The looks the feel, everything same (Except MIUI - which is not on Android 5.0).
I have tried almost all of them. Thanks to all the devs. But my question is there any ROM which is unique???
I am getting same functions in all of them with same looks Even they are same in smoothness and working.
The difference is created by Cyanogen ROMs with theme engine, but now all ROMs now include that theme engine. So we are basically using the same ROM everywhere.
At the moment I am using DirtyUnicorn and I don't want to change because all the ROMs are same.
Is there any ROM which is unique??????? Any?????
Don't say that I should change theme or launcher. It just makes the availability of ROMs a joke.
I am still waiting for MIUI or Lewa if it arrives.
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Don't say that I should change theme or launcher. It just makes the availability of ROMs a joke.
I am still waiting for MIUI or Lewa if it arrives.
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If you dont like them then by all means make one yourself. Just wait MIUI is also gonna look alot like the rest. Android is made for you to change things to make it your own. So use a launcher and a custom theme or make your own rom.
Also if you are looking for verity then you should not have gotten a nexus. Get a Touchwiz or Sense device. This way you have more options.
See I do agree with you. Most roms are pretty similar when compared to back in the days of A4.2.
What I think is more important is the choice of kernel. Allowing the ability to over/underclock and control voltages automatically and many other things. I think learning how to use a kernel and it's various governers is what will separate phones.
I dont know why so little roms have cm profiles. It's a feature that have much more benefits than any theme engine
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
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If you dont like them then by all means make one yourself. Just wait MIUI is also gonna look alot like the rest. Android is made for you to change things to make it your own. So use a launcher and a custom theme or make your own rom.
Also if you are looking for verity then you should not have gotten a nexus. Get a Touchwiz or Sense device. This way you have more options.
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See the second post.
I am not against devs and ROMs, but my only thought is that they are all same.
Even once we used to have great Paranoid ROMs with great features, but now it is nothing but same as all CMs.
With Android 5.0 Google has done something that is now killing Custom ROMs. The ROMs are becoming similar or I should say same.
MIUI is different because they are doing different, but all others are just mixing functions and giving you CM ROMs.
gautam.is.sharma said:
See the second post.
I am not against devs and ROMs, but my only thought is that they are all same.
Even once we used to have great Paranoid ROMs with great features, but now it is nothing but same as all CMs.
With Android 5.0 Google has done something that is now killing Custom ROMs. The ROMs are becoming similar or I should say same.
MIUI is different because they are doing different, but all others are just mixing functions and giving you CM ROMs.
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Well first thing is MIUI is not really different. They are just coping others as well. Notice how they are still on KK? Yes many features are the Same in alot of roms and that is because users have come to expect those and Devs are working like crazy to get them moved up to 5.0 and working. As for them giving you CM roms that is where your wrong. Many have completely ditched CM roms sources due to their dumb ways of merging untested code.
I wont even talk about Paranoid android. They never came up with anything original.
Android at the base is all supposed to look the same. This is what Google Whats and got it with the nasty thing they call the Material design.
I saw your second post. My answer will still be the same. The days of themed roms are over. You are given a clean base to make it your way. So take that and make it yours with a theme and launchers and such.
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Well first thing is MIUI is not really different. They are just coping others as well. Notice how they are still on KK? Yes many features are the Same in alot of roms and that is because users have come to expect those and Devs are working like crazy to get them moved up to 5.0 and working. As for them giving you CM roms that is where your wrong. Many have completely ditched CM roms sources due to their dumb ways of merging untested code.
I wont even talk about Paranoid android. They never came up with anything original.
Android at the base is all supposed to look the same. This is what Google Whats and got it with the nasty thing they call the Material design.
I saw your second post. My answer will still be the same. The days of themed roms are over. You are given a clean base to make it your way. So take that and make it yours with a theme and launchers and such.
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What I really love about MIUI is that they are working in completely different manner. They are working hard on including new features and providing new looks and with a big market for customization.
Whereas CM are great too, and they are the base ROMs for maybe all the ROMs we are using right now.
I don't think Paranoid didn't did anything new, they gave us Hybrid ROMs. But with Android 5.0, they no more my favorites.
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What I really love about MIUI is that they are working in completely different manner. They are working hard on including new features and providing new looks and with a big market for customization.
Whereas CM are great too, and they are the base ROMs for maybe all the ROMs we are using right now.
I don't think Paranoid didn't did anything new, they gave us Hybrid ROMs. But with Android 5.0, they no more my favorites.
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Almost no ROMs are using cm as a base any more. Miui is just taking ideas from iOS. They are even working on a whole new setup so they can release devices in the us without apple sue them out of business.
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Almost no ROMs are using cm as a base any more. Miui is just taking ideas from iOS. They are even working on a whole new setup so they can release devices in the us without apple sue them out of business.
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Copying is what they are doing for themes. I don't think that's bad. iOS is more Android, so if MIUI is copying the design then it's not the issue. Their environment is different. So do CMs.
gautam.is.sharma said:
Copying is what they are doing for themes. I don't think that's bad. iOS is more Android, so if MIUI is copying the design then it's not the issue. Their environment is different. So do CMs.
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So let me get this straight. You think coping is ok yet dont like that all the roms "seem" the same to you?
IOS is more Android?
Your right their environment is different. They dont care what users want or say.
Cm is not even worth mentioning anymore really. They are fast becoming just as big a joke as MIUI in the android world. No one with any real thoughts of their own even use their roms anymore.
The problem is that we all think that the developers actually develop something.
The matter of the fact is that they only tinker with what Google gave them.
So I wouldn't hold my breath for a sense like rom that has its own framework.
No one has got time for that. Big things come from big companies. Or maybe from a team of good friends.
A long time a go a bunch of people gave us Theme Engine, Hybrid Mode, Profiles, PIE, Heads-up, Immersive mode and lots of stuff that was new at the time. I really believe that the creative process is, has been and will be strong on XDA - Developers... but i agree with the OP albeit for different reasons.
I think that as technology, products or processes are understood better, being innovative, creative or "disruptive" becomes harder:
1.- We (the consumer) demand a series of features that become standarized which tramples innovation
2.-And there is the thing with the source material P.E. There is so much a thinkerer can do with a hammer a 2x4 and a couple of nails... Same with android.
3.- As a technology matures the innovation rate diminishes. Look at clocks, TV, videogames or smartphones! Every year there are new models, but little game changing technology even when there are hundred of people working on with, fully paid and with the backing of big companies.
Science and technology advance is not linear... I think that we are on a low point on ROM innovation but to me, that only means that soon somebody will come up with something new and great.
Android roms are same?
Yes they are with a little difference in each and every rom ..coz they are built from the same mother source...AOSP...
Google itself builds it factory images from aosp with touch of google changes...
Every oem uses the aosp and modifies it to make sense, touchwiz, zenui etc etc...
Things have certainly changed in past few years when we only had cm pa pac man ..
Now we have 100s of options ..some developers even kind enough to merge our 'wanted' changes in their rom.
So instead of looking at this thing as 'all are same with little changes' , look it as a 'single thing with 100s of options/modifications' to exactly suit your needs.
Yes its confusing sometimes especially when you are a nexus user
Try a different oem if u want a great change on changing custom roms (migrating from touchwiz to vanilla android gives a wow feeling )
Of course they're 100 pretty much exactly the same roms out there. It's really hard to notice any difference among them. It´s all true. Also calling every room-cooker a developer is in my opinion little too much.
It's been already stated that if you want more variation is better to go for oem devices. however probably at the price of never getting fully working aosp/cm rom (unles we're talking about gpe devices). If you want variation go for flagship oems if you want to enjoy aosp go for nexus.
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Do you think all ROMs are basically same in Android 5.0??
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"Same" is a relative term like "IS".
A relative term is that it is different for different people or situations. An example: someone who is 5 feet tall might think someone who is 5 feet six inches tall is tall, but someone who is 6 feet would think that that person is short.
So I voted no, I don't think all ROM's are the same but they are definitely very similar.
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Agreed, there does not seem to be a lot of innovation in Lollipop ROM features. I have tried Euphoria, TeamUB, crDroid, Slim, RastaPOP, OminROM and XenonHD.
So far they all have the same features. The best one really is XenonHD with its custom long press and double-tap actions on the Nav Bar buttons. This is a great carry over feature from KitKat.
All the other ROMs suck in terms of "new" features.
+1 ..
I guess after 3 4 yrs being on xda, flashing roms with different features, developers amazing us with new and unique features every few months, for me Now it all comes down to the daily use of these features
The PA per app color, pie and omni roms split screen were something that i could use as a daily driver. I really miss PA roms Pie, slimpie somehow is just isnt the same. I miss the tablet mode from PA too.
What i want as a user is a smooth stable rom with some basic tweaks that i dont find on a stock rom and less battery drain. Which i pretty much have with LiquidSmooth.
The speed of innovation has slowed down or rather there arent many more innovative things to do that can be used for daily use anymore i guess. Im not complaining here, just a thought.
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Gravitybox or MiUi CM is not same
Whilst I am so glad to see a lot more ROMs (particularly Lollipop) being released here for the S3 Lte - I am often at a loss to know which ROM does what - e.g. what features each ROM has. I am not a very frequent flasher (sounded pretty nasty) and would appreciate it if any of you guys and girls who test and try out the latest ROMs could give their opinions on ROMs - I know this is a big ask.
All I really know at the moment is that Slim Rom lollipop is a light ROM with a lot of the bloat gone.
Thanks in advance.
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Whilst I am so glad to see a lot more ROMs (particularly Lollipop) being released here for the S3 Lte - I am often at a loss to know which ROM does what - e.g. what features each ROM has. I am not a very frequent flasher (sounded pretty nasty) and would appreciate it if any of you guys and girls who test and try out the latest ROMs could give their opinions on ROMs - I know this is a big ask.
All I really know at the moment is that Slim Rom lollipop is a light ROM with a lot of the bloat gone.
Thanks in advance.
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The short answer is try them. Read the last 5-10 pages of the thread to get an idea of what people are having issues with and the first few posts for features and screenshots. IMHO lollipop is still buggy and not really suitable for a daily driver, although it depends on whether you want a rom long term or flash new ones regularly, and which features you need.
As far as "bloat", it's probably easier to think of roms(especially AOSP vs touchwiz) on a scale of slim/speed -> features. But again, depends on what features you consider bloat.