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Hey everyone
I Recently upgraded from my crappy old Motorola milestone to Optimus black,
Now from what i have noticed so far, the only available costume ROMs are CM7 (unofficial) and Nova 1, is that right?
From my experience with the milestone, those costume ROMs had bugs and the battery life was really lame comparing to stock,
So i'd like to know what are the benefits and downsides of switching to CM7 or Nova 1 comparing to stock, and if i should just wait for the official gingerbread release that from what i understand is suppose to be release this month.
Thanks!
Hi!
i am using Nova 2.2 v8 based on froyo with heuxxx mod and i am quiet happy about it.
you can see a huge difference in battery life when you change some settings like underclocking, i/o schedulers and governor. (and ofcourse how you use of your smartphone)
however if you use it all day on 3g and playing games then it wont last 12 hours on either stock rom or stock nova rom, soo yeah its like every other smartphone.
i prefer Nova over stock because its not as glitchy as the stock rom, imo.
my choice would be Nova because CM is still in development.
and yes i am also waiting to see what gingerbread has to offer.
Nova ROM is simply wonderful... i have used for a month and all run perfectly, there are no comparisons respect stock rom:nova rom is more fast e smooth and don't drain battery (you can set governor).
Unfortunately his development is been stopped and i have decided to pass to CM7 nightly, this have also some little bugs but with knzo kernel (the developer of Nova ROM) or Huexxx's kernel i think that is better and more fast and very customizable.
I have resisted with stock rom 3 days... i suggest to try this wonderful ROM
I don't want to be an ass but my personal expirience with nova2.2v8 wasn't that good I could even say that stock worked better [this is only in my case and usage]
So instead of going back to stock, I flashed cm7n13 w/knzo kernel v1 and is just beauty, fantastic, greater than ever... the only known bug is recording video... apart from that it's pretty stable, fast, smooth, battery is way better improved
Nova ROM sounds pretty good, i'll look into it, thanks!
Hello Proud user of LG Optimus 4x HD,
Now that we have '' Unlocked Bootloader '' and our beloved phone is being looked after some '' Great Developers '' let's have a look at the ''Features, Functions and Disabilites'' about all this stuff being Developed around here. This thread is open to all who want to make suggestions or express his/her experience about any Particular Rom / Kernel.
So happy Discussing.
Have a nice Day/Evening.
I'm using the latest cm rom and change from time to time between the werewolf and the ph85 kernel. Everything works fine
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I am using the latest official CM10.1 Nightly build and play around it for 3 days. It is really great. Compare it with Stock LG 20B JB. I found
The pros-
1, The speed and response of UI, open up apps, web browsing and etc. improved a lot!!!
2, Less heat is generated
3, A lot better battery life.
4, A lot more control on everything.
5, Officially support FB home and it runs perfectly (You can even download it from the Play store)
6, seems it has better multi-tasking, at least it won't kill too many of the background apps (I have VLC direct running on background, I will always get killed on stock LG rom, but on CM10.1, it will still running while I am doing something else)
7, Better and more pretty UI.
The cons-
1, MHL output is not working correctly. (and it seems it will never work)
2, No custom ringer and notification sound.
3, All volume seems less loud than the stock
4, Media won't scan again while you unplug and plug the SD card back on.
5, Camera has less control and lower performance (HDR run slower that it really wait and take 3 slow shot to compose, no way to shut down the shutter sound, no ISO control and only +/-1 exposure control)
6, Too many option and control on setting, you might not have an idea what it really do....(maybe it is a pros for some ppls, haha)
It is just my opinion during these 3 days. Maybe some of them is just a bug or I just too new to this. Hope you guys don't mind. Even there is a lot of Cons, I think this ROM is very nice. Thanks. =)
Mike
Well I'm currently in the process of reverting to v10a. Call me crazy but if you're a gamer it's the fastest rom with 99% of games working great. Since then LG became obsessed with overheating and slowly degraded its performance. Now that I'm unlocked I'm going to see if it's possible to use proper clockworkmod on this rom, if it works maybe someone can port some custom kernel features. JB and cm10.1 are still great though and I plan to continue experimenting with them as more stuff is developed
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I have also switched a lot in this last month or so but just in between Stock, CM10,1 and Werewolf Rom.
1. For me stock has the best battery results almost used phone for 40 hours or so still with some battery left and had absolute no problems at all with the baseband issue ( I hope xtribas and others who do have it get over it as soon as possible with the help of good development).
2. CM10.1 is great work and a build of devotion from its developers almost everyday comes a new nightly with some features and tweaks. Runs very smooth and till now have had not many bugs I would say some problem with baseband wakelocks here but not in Stock which I cannot explain why.
3. Werewolf's Rom one of my fellow Countrymen is Fantastic I really appreciate his work, time and efforts. It's an awsome Rom fast, stable almost reliable like stock. It will be best Rom after Stock I guess.
I am not a Gamer so sorry to all Gamers I don't know how is the Gaming Life on this Phone (with all due respect to @non4 and others, I hope you guys get best out of this phone with the help of our Clever Developing Team.) In between I do play games but on my Laptop ( Acer Aspire V3-771G, intel i7-3610QM 2,3 GHz, 16GB RAM, 1,2 TB HDD, NVIDIA Geforce GT 650M )
Happy Discussion Guys
I'm using CM and change kernel from time to time between the werewolf and iodak.
Update: flashing clockworkmod on ICS gives the notorious security error, for it to work the ROM would have to be repacked to a flashable format like zaiben. And the eternity project kernel just got updated, based on feedback I may have to go back to JB already
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@non4 said:
Update: flashing clockworkmod on ICS gives the notorious security error, for it to work the ROM would have to be repacked to a flashable format like zaiben. And the eternity project kernel just got updated, based on feedback I may have to go back to JB already
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Wifi still doesn't works on Ethernity Kernel for CM..?
i use rom stock v20c with ph85 kernel, really stable and really good performance
(sorry for my bad english)
@non4 said:
Well I'm currently in the process of reverting to v10a. Call me crazy but if you're a gamer it's the fastest rom with 99% of games working great. Since then LG became obsessed with overheating and slowly degraded its performance. Now that I'm unlocked I'm going to see if it's possible to use proper clockworkmod on this rom, if it works maybe someone can port some custom kernel features. JB and cm10.1 are still great though and I plan to continue experimenting with them as more stuff is developed
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After next time you revert to v10a (you seem to switch back and forth a lot ), would you mind packing up and uploading the files in /system/lib? I need them, but really would like to avoid having to flash back to v10a/h at the moment. It seems that LG's ICS builds are currently the only builds with properly working MHL and it is likely it has to do with the included tegra libraries.
I am even more interested in these files for v10h (although the relevant files may be the same), if anyone has easy access to them.
Wenque said:
After next time you revert to v10a (you seem to switch back and forth a lot ), would you mind packing up and uploading the files in /system/lib? I need them, but really would like to avoid having to flash back to v10a/h at the moment. It seems that LG's ICS builds are currently the only builds with properly working MHL and it is likely it has to do with the included tegra libraries.
I am even more interested in these files for v10h (although the relevant files may be the same), if anyone has easy access to them.
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Unlikely. v20 performs as well with iodak, and better with kholks kernel
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Hi there @non4 can you please explain some main differences between some of the Roms and Kernels you have tried so far, which is good and in which way like battery life, usage, and which is not so good and needs to be looked at? I ask you because I think you have switched around a lot (sorry if I am wrong) and have tested directly from some of the Great Develeopers around.
Just a small submission of your experience would be enough
Thanks
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Hi there @non4 can you please explain some main differences between some of the Roms and Kernels you have tried so far, which is good and in which way like battery life, usage, and which is not so good and needs to be looked at? I ask you because I think you have switched around a lot (sorry if I am wrong) and have tested directly from some of the Great Develeopers around.
Just a small submission of your experience would be enough
Thanks
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v10a stock: pure speed, awful battery
v20a stock: Better than v10h, but not as fast as v10a
v20a with iodak kernel: Good battery, close to v10a performance
v20a with kholks kernel: Fastest experience but currently too buggy
CM10.1: Faster in some games, but slower in others, battery OK and some nice features
CM10.1 with werewolf kernel: Solves some of the lags at cost of battery
PACMAN: Not a gamers ROM but fun to play around wit
ZAIBEN: Just like stock without the bloat
That enough??
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@non4
Have you tried the latest CM10.1 nightly? I just flashed it last night and I had no issues with Deep Sleep, Runs very Smooth and Battery Life is Good. Last night I unpluged it at round about 10:30 PM and today Morning at 9 I just lost 2% of battery so I think its not bad 0.2% overnight.
I guess I will try this:
v20a with iodak kernel: Good battery, close to v10a performance
and I am gonna try
Iodaks Kernel with CM10.1
and lets see what comes out. I have a long weekend to play with because Monday is Holiday here in Germany
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@non4
Have you tried the latest CM10.1 nightly? I just flashed it last night and I had no issues with Deep Sleep, Runs very Smooth and Battery Life is Good. Last night I unpluged it at round about 10:30 PM and today Morning at 9 I just lost 2% of battery so I think its not bad 0.2% overnight.
I guess I will try this:
v20a with iodak kernel: Good battery, close to v10a performance
and I am gonna try
Iodaks Kernel with CM10.1
and lets see what comes out. I have a long weekend to play with because Monday is Holiday here in Germany
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When I see some optimization to the I/O speed which will hopefully fix the remaining stutters then I will try, I CBA with moving my stuff to the right folders and restoring all my apps . Try its a good combo! Nice core usage and performs like kholks old 3.1.10 alpha
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I have flashed the iodak's kernel with latest CM 10.1 Nightly and I must say it's a great Combination from Developers and Battery life is nice as well. Have a look.
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@non4 said:
v10a stock: pure speed, awful battery
v20a stock: Better than v10h, but not as fast as v10a
v20a with iodak kernel: Good battery, close to v10a performance
v20a with kholks kernel: Fastest experience but currently too buggy
CM10.1: Faster in some games, but slower in others, battery OK and some nice features
CM10.1 with werewolf kernel: Solves some of the lags at cost of battery
PACMAN: Not a gamers ROM but fun to play around wit
ZAIBEN: Just like stock without the bloat
That enough??
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Hey Thanks for this Summary... I was waiting for something like this to decide if I go into CM10.1 or Stay in Stock with a Different Kernel :good:
I think best kernel for now is the stock kernel because the custom aren't ready 100%
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I think best kernel for now is the stock kernel because the custom aren't ready 100%
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I have used nightly and iodak's combination for couple of weeks and I am very happy with the using experience. Battery life is much better than stock and gaming is no laggish. Currently I am using Arararagi's unoffical version so I can still use LG's quicknote and Memo which are only things I want to use from the stock. thanks for Arararagi, make me love CM more. Werewolf kernel also great but I found iodak's better for me. Any way you won't regret to move to CM.
Official jb rom and ioak kernel at the moment. I like lg keyboard and the battery drain is less than cm.
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i tried cyanogenmod 10.2 but it has no fm radio i said ok . but it does not support network connections over edge , 3g. i want to know which rom is the most stable and fast and good looking and has no bugs or at least few known ones for my galaxy s i9000. and thanks.
Edge and 3G working well with CM 10.2. For FM radio you could try SpiritFM.
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try the
Mackay 4.4 is one of the best i tryied!
;D
When I tried CM 10.0 & 10.1 (stables) the roms functioned oké, but terrible battery life with their own CM-kernel. That was fixed with both roms after changing the kernel to Semaphore which gave much more batterylife. (I never use FM, but with Semaphore manager among others FM can be switched on and radio worked on my SGS1 tested with Spirit FM).
However each time after trying new CM I tried latest stable Slim Bean (which has Semaphore-kernel included) and never looked back. For me Slim Bean blew CM totally out of the water concerning performance and batterylife. (Stability both good by the way). And very nice options in rom such as Real Dark Slim.
Now I am strongly concidering trying Mackay 4.4 (instead of SlimKat bèta). Not only because I want KitKat on my i9000. As it appears to function better with our low RAM. Especially the very alive community around it tickles my curiousity.
Anyone has experience with both Slim and Mackey? How does performance, stability and batterylife differ between them? And which of Mackey's function better? Omni- or CM-based?
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My thread is there for reference in the Q&A section
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i am using the nightly cyanogen mod 11 and it is stable and i haven't noticed any bugs or problems during the 2 days i have been testing it, except the fm radio which does not work on all unofficial roms Spirit FM seems to have problems any better rom or solution to the fm radio would be appreciated.
and is Mackay 4.4 better than cm 11. should i try it ?
im using c-rom with cma kernel so far so good
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drpilot said:
i am using the nightly cyanogen mod 11 and it is stable and i haven't noticed any bugs or problems during the 2 days i have been testing it, except the fm radio which does not work on all unofficial roms Spirit FM seems to have problems any better rom or solution to the fm radio would be appreciated.
and is Mackay 4.4 better than cm 11. should i try it ?
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I don't know with KK (yet) if also working, but CM-JB with Semaphore kernel instead of CM-kernel and Semaphore Manager one can switch on FM Radio and use Spirit FM. Most likely there is a thread for KK.
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Even though best rom threads arent allowed on xda, ill post my reply: cm10.2.0- superfast, only slight lags while gaming, good battery life, no bugs that i can see.
just moved from cm11 with semaphore to cm11&mackay kernel. best descision ever. great battery live (8h of no big use/79% battery left) and pretty fast too - depends on mackay settings. :victory:
i am useing mackay rom 4.1.8 (from 04.01.14) and the phone is amazing, it was never as fast and good as now (android 4.2 and 4.3 were complet garbage for the sgs)
even though i will buy the xperia Z1 compact in a few weeks, i will keep the sgs for my workouts in the gym
i'm using Mackay CM9 and is working very good
My SGS has had almost all possible roms. After 3 years of changing roms. I've go back to almost Stock version of 2.3.6 XWJW8 with semaphore kernel 2.7.4. with smart launcher 2. It is fast enought.
And what is most important it works more than few days without update.
So i if you need stable phone I suggest to check this setup
You can't just say what's the best rom because every rom it's different just like the users and how they use their phone.But if you wanna know some quick facts here we go:
Stock GB has the best battery because it lacks feature and with a good kernel it can be pretty fast.
Now talking about custom roms :
ICS, in my opinion has better battery than JB or KK. Free ram is pretty high,second place,first is KK.More features than GB not so many as JB or KK
JellyBean : not much of a big fan but i can say that 4.1.2 was by far the best from all the versions.The battery and resources consumption was fair and has more features than the precedents.
KitKat is my favourite.The battery consumption it's ok and it has more free ram than any other android versions and the features are just great.
As for kernel i'm a big fan of Stratosk's Semaphore kernel.No matter what rom i use the kernel is the same.
If you wanna try custom KitKat rom you can try these ones(these are the only ones that i have tested like 2 to 4 weaks each)
SlimKat - Very very smooth just like all their custom roms.Nice features like TRDS, SlimPie and others. Ram usage is good but the battery is draining a little fast for me but this is just my case and maybe others have different experience.
Mackay's Kitkat - This is also a very nice kitkat rom.it's smooth it has good features but just like the one above, i don't like the battery and after some time it became a little laggy.
C-Rom - This is the last one which i'm using right now.I love this one.Ram usage is good , i like the battery( i can get over 19 hours) ,it has great features.Never felt my i9000 so smooth.
My test where done with 3g/wifi on all the time,more than 3 hours screen time,music for 2-3 hours,facebook,whatsapp and others(daily).Some of the apps are greenified and some frozen.
Hope this helps you !
yepi !!!!
wanakamura said:
My SGS has had almost all possible roms. After 3 years of changing roms. I've go back to almost Stock version of 2.3.6 XWJW8 with semaphore kernel 2.7.4. with smart launcher 2. It is fast enought.
And what is most important it works more than few days without update.
So i if you need stable phone I suggest to check this setup
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I too like xwjwb + semaphore 2.7.4, after trying many kitkat, this and that.........one more saurom v2 + ICS theme + transperent menu+ additional settings works best, fast smooth reliable with much more time on battery.(I try 2/3 roms on daily basis)
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Barbosanna said:
You can't just say what's the best rom because every rom it's different just like the users and how they use their phone.But if you wanna know some quick facts here we go:
Stock GB has the best battery because it lacks feature and with a good kernel it can be pretty fast.
Now talking about custom roms :
ICS, in my opinion has better battery than JB or KK. Free ram is pretty high,second place,first is KK.More features than GB not so many as JB or KK
JellyBean : not much of a big fan but i can say that 4.1.2 was by far the best from all the versions.The battery and resources consumption was fair and has more features than the precedents.
KitKat is my favourite.The battery consumption it's ok and it has more free ram than any other android versions and the features are just great.
As for kernel i'm a big fan of Stratosk's Semaphore kernel.No matter what rom i use the kernel is the same.
If you wanna try custom KitKat rom you can try these ones(these are the only ones that i have tested like 2 to 4 weaks each)
SlimKat - Very very smooth just like all their custom roms.Nice features like TRDS, SlimPie and others. Ram usage is good but the battery is draining a little fast for me but this is just my case and maybe others have different experience.
Mackay's Kitkat - This is also a very nice kitkat rom.it's smooth it has good features but just like the one above, i don't like the battery and after some time it became a little laggy.
C-Rom - This is the last one which i'm using right now.I love this one.Ram usage is good , i like the battery( i can get over 19 hours) ,it has great features.Never felt my i9000 so smooth.
My test where done with 3g/wifi on all the time,more than 3 hours screen time,music for 2-3 hours,facebook,whatsapp and others(daily).Some of the apps are greenified and some frozen.
Hope this helps you !
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YES
C-rom kit kat is best in many manners.......I've tried S4 style MK 4.2.2 (now running on my i9000) find best in battery, speed, gaming, and it has beautiful appearance, previously I tried different versions of MIUI........ very captative but almost in chinese....... if someone know its complete version of english then please let me know.
Barbosanna said:
You can't just say what's the best rom because every rom it's different just like the users and how they use their phone.But if you wanna know some quick facts here we go:
Stock GB has the best battery because it lacks feature and with a good kernel it can be pretty fast.
Now talking about custom roms :
ICS, in my opinion has better battery than JB or KK. Free ram is pretty high,second place,first is KK.More features than GB not so many as JB or KK
JellyBean : not much of a big fan but i can say that 4.1.2 was by far the best from all the versions.The battery and resources consumption was fair and has more features than the precedents.
KitKat is my favourite.The battery consumption it's ok and it has more free ram than any other android versions and the features are just great.
As for kernel i'm a big fan of Stratosk's Semaphore kernel.No matter what rom i use the kernel is the same.
If you wanna try custom KitKat rom you can try these ones(these are the only ones that i have tested like 2 to 4 weaks each)
SlimKat - Very very smooth just like all their custom roms.Nice features like TRDS, SlimPie and others. Ram usage is good but the battery is draining a little fast for me but this is just my case and maybe others have different experience.
Mackay's Kitkat - This is also a very nice kitkat rom.it's smooth it has good features but just like the one above, i don't like the battery and after some time it became a little laggy.
C-Rom - This is the last one which i'm using right now.I love this one.Ram usage is good , i like the battery( i can get over 19 hours) ,it has great features.Never felt my i9000 so smooth.
My test where done with 3g/wifi on all the time,more than 3 hours screen time,music for 2-3 hours,facebook,whatsapp and others(daily).Some of the apps are greenified and some frozen.
Hope this helps you !
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Sounds interesting to try C-Rom then. SlimKat 3.0 Official runs good and smooth here, but indeed battery life (not idle/sleep, but) when using is wildly guessing at least about 33 percent less than my favorite JB before Slim Bean 4.3.1 last stable/official. Music/podcasts for instance at least two hours less battery time. And in every KK thread you read about bad battery life.
On a site note. My 'modern' Nexus 7 2013 with stock Android also performed better on JB than KK. A clean flash of factory rom and factory reset didn't help. For example battery life (active with screen on time and/or playing music/podcast) JB 4.3.1 was 12-13 hours. KK 4.4 had 8-9 and now KK 4.4.2 does 10-11 hours. The contrary of media srories about KK being better optimized and lower on resources and Ram. And I read a lot simular experiences around the net.
So I was considering on SGS1 going back to JB, but first try Mackay's ICS 2014. Perhaps I'll give C-rom first a chance. And perhaps if it arrives meanwhile newest SlimKat stable. When still battery life not as good as JB before, definitely ICS 2014 or Slim Bean again.
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iam pretty much satisfied with SlimKat 3.10 weekly, runs smooth with semaphore kernal
dear masters, im looking for a custom rom that works with the voodoo sound app from playstore.
ics, jb or kk will do.
im currently running on cm10.2-20130826-nightly-galaxysmtd build (first sgs phone i have), it says on my voodoo app that it has a built in voodoo sound but i cant really hear the improvement (weak volume) over my other sgs with gb 2.3.5. + voodoo sound app from playstore (another sgs i bought from an online store).
some of the forum i visited says there is a tab for the wolfson dac on the dsp manager but i have non on my sgs running a custom rom.
i also tried installing a semaphore kernel but no luck, my sgs says that
no need to load module
built in kernel voodoo sound: v.0
"device or kernel not suppported.... "
any recommendations?
Does anyone know if the stock LGG2 Camera works with 5.1 aosp?
I'm not 100% sure what your asking but yea the camera works in aosp, unless there's a ton specific bug, but all the aosp roms I have tried worked, I don't know if you mean installing the stock lg camera apk, and seeing if that works but I can tell you from my experience with aosp looking at the scene through the camera just moving the phone around it was jumping all around like it had horrible framerate, I never took a video so I don't know if it took videos like that but wih stock based roms the camera worked flawlessly, every aosp rom I have seen has had some problem (ex. GPS not working, random reboots, loosing lte, no CDMA, camera not as good as stock, freezing up, etc...) I really wish there was a stable bug free version of aosp, I love aosp and the look of it but until they get the glitches/bugs under control I'll stay with cloudy g2 3.3, it is a amazing rom if you like the look of lg ui, it is very fast and no bugs.
But Aosp based roms tend to have better battery life SOT, idle etc. And cloudy g2 3.3 actually gave me less SOT than LS 4.4 even. And its Lp 5.0... so it heats up quite alot but that can be fixed with custom kernels (atleast for me). But when Cloudfa releases Lp 5.1 stock cloudy rom for G2, it will be super. Cheers m8
Is there a solid comparison of the 3 main OS's, what's the preference and why?
(I've looked and can't really find one)
I'm on Lollipop right now and kind of miss KitKat for some reason.
KK I think was simpler somehow letting it run a bit cleaner without so much background noise yet just as functional as LP and MM, it feels like Sony put more effort into catering KK for the Z3 than LP or MM.
LP seems the most refined and polished, and does have more optimizations, I'm getting great antutu scores with it using slim 4.1 with some additional tweaks.
MM still haven't tried the latest and greatest, still seems like too much work to get it to where I would like it with these half baked releases and problems and functional losses I keep reading about.
I get that with each release most of us get excited (myself included) to try the latest and greatest thinking it's going to be an improvement, but what has actually improved and what has been lost? KK was stable with a few extra audio features had good start-up times and seemed snappier even though Antutu tells me LP is better and then there's Marshmallow...
What's your opinion? Any good threads I missed covering this topic?
scutterflux said:
Is there a solid comparison of the 3 main OS's, what's the preference and why?
(I've looked and can't really find one)
I'm on Lollipop right now and kind of miss KitKat for some reason.
KK I think was simpler somehow letting it run a bit cleaner without so much background noise yet just as functional as LP and MM, it feels like Sony put more effort into catering KK for the Z3 than LP or MM.
LP seems the most refined and polished, and does have more optimizations, I'm getting great antutu scores with it using slim 4.1 with some additional tweaks.
MM still haven't tried the latest and greatest, still seems like too much work to get it to where I would like it with these half baked releases and problems and functional losses I keep reading about.
I get that with each release most of us get excited (myself included) to try the latest and greatest thinking it's going to be an improvement, but what has actually improved and what has been lost? KK was stable with a few extra audio features had good start-up times and seemed snappier even though Antutu tells me LP is better and then there's Marshmallow...
What's your opinion? Any good threads I missed covering this topic?
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I kind of miss KitKat too and I did go back for a while, the reason I came back to MM Concept is because KitKat isn't perfect either. The notifications are miles better on LP and MM.
I agree that KitKat was simpler and Android 4.4.4 is probably my favorite version.
Antuntu and other benchmarks don't mean anything for daily use unless you play 3d games. There are videos on you tube showing that kitkat is faster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx06yJMVT-U
Faster boot on kitkat was due to Dalvik, since Android 5.0 default runtime is ART. But I don't see why is that important, we don't boot our phone 10 times per day, do we?
I don't think there is a discussion on the forums about this, I would like to se it too but I think that people just jump to latest and greatest software...
Month ago I had Xperia Play wit GingerBread, now I have Z3C wit LP. I've tried LP and MM deeper. It's a big difference from GB. KK is much closer to GB, more "classic Android". Lolipop has much better SystemUI and almost all modifications is for LP. For KK there is only few mods for sound and that's all. I like KK cause backward compatibility too. On newer Android many older games like FIFA 12 are unplayable.
Time for Marshmallow will come in future. Today I don't see any advantage to use Android 6. There are no apps or games requiring it. Almost all apps want max 4.4. Speed or multitasking is in my opinion the same in all of the three versions - honestly Z3C has too much power that few percent in terms of performance is useless. The only reason to use MM is Xperia X camera framework in SLIMM 1.9 ROM (but this version is too buggy) - on the other hand, for Lolipop there are Z5 camera files.
Generaly the best from these three is (in my opinion) Lolipop. It looks nice, it's "reskined" Kittkat with some new and better features, has biggest fan support, it's stable, fast and complete - all features working as they should and nothing is missing. Almost all Xposed modules are compatible or has version that is compatible with Lolipop. Marhsmallow breaks the classic - some features are on different places, are little bit different at all and some of them aren't there completely (stamina - in latest build is only "something" like stamina; Dualshock 3 support and so on). There is to much to improve. Kittkat is for old school users, which want better compatibility with older apps or want to play SHIELD games, cause they don't run on Lolipop or Marshmallow in my case.
I just installed KK for a go, and it's pretty snappy, I don't miss lockscreen notifications from LP because I don't use them. All the functions I use are still there and with Xperia Xposed all the UI tweaks I like are still available. I'm not sure I'll notice an improvement in battery life because it was still pretty good on LP but I'll watch for that as most reports tend to favour KK in this department. I was thinking about what you (Miicheall) said about gaming, and there's this game I've been wanting to try for awhile (Army of Darkness Defence) and could never get it to work on LP, so I just installed it on KK and hey what do you know it works!
I have to correct myself - SHIELD games like Half-Life 2 or Portal are playable on Lollipop - on MM not. Many games working on KK but on higher version not. So good luck and have fun
KK was the best by far for stability, battery life and function - as long as you're ok with the horrid KK restrictions on SD card functionality. I wish I'd stayed on that, and that's after being on LP & MM,.
techguyone said:
KK was the best by far for stability, battery life and function - as long as you're ok with the horrid KK restrictions on SD card functionality. I wish I'd stayed on that, and that's after being on LP & MM,.
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LP Is very stable, battery is great if you decide to take effort and install greenify and limit app permissions and wakelocks. Marshmallow honestly at this point is not that good with most users reporting the Doze feature being somewhat useless
You're having a laugh LP was the worst OS update by Google for some time, it's been beset with nothing but trouble.
I know this is not the norm according to reports but monitoring battery usage with 3c toolbox LP in idle is drawing less ma than KK in idle, both are set up with stamina... same settings with sync, gps, and lte off, about 50% brightness... Go figure. I'm using both with Moly82'm debloated versions for comparison so that could have something to do with it. LP shows about 100 more apps when booting VS moly82's KK version too so that isn't factoring in as an advantage with battery life.
I'm also liking the ability for 32-bit audio output in lollipop which is wonderful and does make an audible improvement with Neutron, Camera mods for lollipop are better as far as I can tell, however now I can't play that Army of Darkness game.
I tried some MM versions and I hate the swipe for app search feature and the mods and tweaks I like aren't there yet so I will continue to wait on that, but it does seem like the smoothest version of all.
They are all giving me problems with the stock email attachment feature, is there something wrong with an update or something?
I held onto KK as long as possible until my phone had to be sent in for warranty due to a speaker failure. The Sony repair center loaded the latest version of LP onto my phone and it was actually bug free (unlike the early versions). However, it never had the battery life of KK. When using the phone, it had the same rate of battery drain as KK, but when idle, it seemed to drain twice as fast as KK. It seemed like Stamina mode in LP only gave me the equivalent battery life of KK without Stamina mode. SO, with KK, I could get 2 days of usage without stamina, and nearly 4 days with it. Both of those numbers were cut in half with LP.
I put up with it for as long as I could though until about two weeks ago. I finally flashed KK onto my phone again and WOW, it is refreshing to no longer worry about my battery throughout the day. Plus, the pull down notification menu in KK is way better! It's so annoying to have to swipe down twice in LP/MM/N. Plus, ticker style notifications are far less intrusive than the banner style in LP/MM/N. Finally, I just like the black background with white text that is displayed in the pull down menu. It seems so much cleaner to me than the grayish-green that LP/MM/N uses.
The one thing I miss about LP is the banner notification for phone calls when you're using the device. KK takes over the whole screen and is very intrusive. I downloaded an app that tries to mimic this LP feature, but it only works 80% of the time. I still plan to stick with KK until I upgrade to a new device in 2017.
techguyone said:
KK was the best by far for stability, battery life and function - as long as you're ok with the horrid KK restrictions on SD card functionality. I wish I'd stayed on that, and that's after being on LP & MM,.
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Which are the sd card restrictions you mentioned?! I'm using my sd card without problems on Kitkat (for a week now) and I do only care about the mass storage mode,a feature that is provided on both KK and MM versions.
kwstas 13 said:
Which are the sd card restrictions you mentioned?! I'm using my sd card without problems on Kitkat (for a week now) and I do only care about the mass storage mode,a feature that is provided on both KK and MM versions.
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Only system apps can write to the external SD card for some reason in KitKat unless you're rooted.
I definitely think KK has the best battery and is the most stable, but I wish there were more (or any, really) camera mods for it. You have to be on at least LP for there to be any decent mods, although I do think KK has the smoothest image stabilization for video recording. However, image quality takes a big hit.
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Only system apps can write to the external SD card for some reason in KitKat unless you're rooted.
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Hadn't mentioned that, guess I don't need this one. Kitkat still runs smoothly by the way.
So given that there are camera mods only for LP and MM - which OS has given you the best battery performance in your experience?
Isn't it worth upgrading to MM just to be sure to have all latest security patches?
charliebigpot said:
So given that there are camera mods only for LP and MM - which OS has given you the best battery performance in your experience?
Isn't it worth upgrading to MM just to be sure to have all latest security patches?
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For me MM is the way to go, just flash any of custom stock based MM roms and run slimcore debloat, I'm having great battery performance lasting me whole day (i get 4-6h of sof with 70% of that beeing youtube) and it seems like the most fluid and eye pleasing experience, and for camera mods, I would only suggest unlocked camera, others are kinda gimmicky, but best and only way to find out what suits you is to try it yourself, you can see that in this thread only we have a lot of divided opinions.
Good luck