I was just curious how much folks let the cache data build up before they delete it. I'm not talking about wiping the cache partition, but rather the cached data that is listed if you go to settings > storage, where it lists the catagories. It can build up to pretty enormous amounts if you don't keep watch on it. I know having things in cache will help the phone be quicker at times, but wont it eventually get so large that it will begin to degrade the performance? Just wondering what people think is best range to keep it at, or if there is even one. The most I've let mine get to is about to 500mb. which seemed like a ton of cache data.
I usually clear about once a week. I don't believe most would need to do it that regularly but that is what I do. Right wrong or indifferent. I have found in the past on different phones that some issues go away if cleared weekly. And when friends call me with issues on Lollipop, I often tell them to clear cache and that easy fix usually solves the problem.
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I have done the Speed tweek with advanced configuration tool, and all was ok, I started experiencing crashes with the weather and programs menu, so I switched back to default, as the TouchFlo seems to work ok default anyway. Crashes seemed to have stopped but today I started to experience varied delays with the touch flo when coming out of stand by, I get the top bar with the windows logo straight away but the rest of the screen is just black, the delay is sometimes short (1sec ish) and sometimes long (5sec ish) doesn't sound much but when you want to use the device it is highly annoying, done multiple soft resets and pulled the battery out while on too.
Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
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Anyone? any advice at all!!!!
richardirv said:
Anyone? any advice at all!!!!
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advice: dont fiddle with something you dont understand, especially memory allocations.
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advice: dont fiddle with something you dont understand, especially memory allocations.
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I have only followed instructions from this site, I come here looking for help and everywhere I look your putting people down, how do you know what I know and don't know, I have used XDA's for years, I am not an expert but I can hold my own, but when I need help I thought this would be the place to find help not comments like that!!
I think these tweaks are setting the cash to a value higher than the memory available once you've opened a few programs.
I think whats happening is that because you set the cashe sizes so large the OS allocates the first 50% or so really quickly, then you run out of memory and you get the lag as it empties the cash.
When i get my phone i'll do some proper tests with hard resets inbetween. I would suggest you do a hard reset and start with much lower cache values, then slowly increase untill it breaks again.
The other problem with a huge cache size (fs) is that if the phone does crash you loose all that data in ram, potentially leading to corrupt files.
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I think these tweaks are setting the cash to a value higher than the memory available once you've opened a few programs.
I think whats happening is that because you set the cashe sizes so large the OS allocates the first 50% or so really quickly, then you run out of memory and you get the lag as it empties the cash.
When i get my phone i'll do some proper tests with hard resets inbetween. I would suggest you do a hard reset and start with much lower cache values, then slowly increase untill it breaks again.
The other problem with a huge cache size (fs) is that if the phone does crash you loose all that data in ram, potentially leading to corrupt files.
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Thanks for a constructive comment, does it matter that I had put the cache settings back to default and uninstalled the advanced config tool but still getting the same problem? Does it remember certain settings? Will probably try a hard reset when I get home tonight though.
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Seems to have fixed its self now!!!
I have searched on several different keywords and I cannot seem to find a similar issue mentioned anywhere...
My problem is with almost every rom out there. However, I will speak directly about Cyanogen 4.0.4 because it is the ROM that I am currently using.
I installed 4.0.4 the day it came out. I did a wipe and installed it. The ROM worked great for about 2 or 3 weeks. However, now it has slowed down considerably. For the past week, whenever I get a call, if I do not pick it up on the first ring, the phone is so slow that it cannot receive the call. Every operation on the phone takes a long time.
If I wipe the phone and redo the 4.0.4 update.zip, the phone speeds back up. Even though I am using the same set of apps...
So, I assume there is some app cache or some other thing that is getting stuffed up and needs to be cleaned out periodically. However, I have deleted all the caches that I can think of and it does not seem to make a difference. I do not keep SMSs, GMail is always empty, I maintain my Exchange mailbox under a Meg all of the time...
Any idea on what cache, or something else that I might be missing?
Or a relevant set of search terms, or a link to an existing fix?
Thanks
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I have searched on several different keywords and I cannot seem to find a similar issue mentioned anywhere...
My problem is with almost every rom out there. However, I will speak directly about Cyanogen 4.0.4 because it is the ROM that I am currently using.
I installed 4.0.4 the day it came out. I did a wipe and installed it. The ROM worked great for about 2 or 3 weeks. However, now it has slowed down considerably. For the past week, whenever I get a call, if I do not pick it up on the first ring, the phone is so slow that it cannot receive the call. Every operation on the phone takes a long time.
If I wipe the phone and redo the 4.0.4 update.zip, the phone speeds back up. Even though I am using the same set of apps...
So, I assume there is some app cache or some other thing that is getting stuffed up and needs to be cleaned out periodically. However, I have deleted all the caches that I can think of and it does not seem to make a difference. I do not keep SMSs, GMail is always empty, I maintain my Exchange mailbox under a Meg all of the time...
Any idea on what cache, or something else that I might be missing?
Or a relevant set of search terms, or a link to an existing fix?
Thanks
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So just to confirm you did a rm -rf /system/sd/dalvic-cache/* then reboot ?
If not try that
I have not tried that. I did do a wipe last night, so I am back to snappy again. In a couple of weeks I will try erasing the dalvik-cache and reboot per your suggestion. Thanks
Kind of related... What app do you use to keep your various apps killed off? Right now I am using TaskPanel. However I would be interested in opinions on other apps.
So here is a run down of maintenance that I have so far:
Clear the dalvik-cache - rm -rf /system/sd/dalvic-cache/*
Clear all of the app caches.
Kill all non-important tasks on a regular basis
Delete all SMS messages
Delete all mail
Did I miss anything? Thanks for helping.
I am filling in the info for him but he told me today that as of the update he gets freezing, only half the apps and info loads, can't see any of his text and he has done about 5 battery pulls already. Prior to the update everything was smooth sailing, he is not rooted and when he got the update he left the phone alone to do it's thing the entire time.
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I am filling in the info for him but he told me today that as of the update he gets freezing, only half the apps and info loads, can't see any of his text and he has done about 5 battery pulls already. Prior to the update everything was smooth sailing, he is not rooted and when he got the update he left the phone alone to do it's thing the entire time.
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Tell him to wipe his data, that should help clear out anything strange.
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Tell him to wipe his data, that should help clear out anything strange.
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I already told him he will probably have to lose everything but I was hoping to maybe give him another alternative.
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I already told him he will probably have to lose everything but I was hoping to maybe give him another alternative.
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I agree with danifunker. Just back his user data (pics, music, etc.) up to external-sd if it isn't already there. You can try backing his user apps up with Titanium Backup, but YMMV with that. You're reintroducing variables back into the flash.
I have also seen quite a few cases where selecting the backup/restore phone with Google during the initial setup after a major OS update has caused issues as well. This happened on quite a few employee phones here where I work during a previous upgrade. So much that it's our standard policy to not select them after a major upgrade. If a data wipe doesn't solve it, a full system restore and unselecting those options during setup is another (destructive) alternative.
Good luck amigo. Keep us posted. :highfive:
Any advice/suggestions would be MUCH appreciated!
My problem ultimately stems from the fact that my keyboard has somehow been disabled by some errant app, most likely Google's Tap-to-Talk function, a little over a week ago now. Literally out of nowhere. I disabled the general Google App the very day the tap-to-talk function started overriding the HTC Sense keyboard everywhere, and then noticed that neither the keyboard nor the tap-to-talk function were working. I just thought that I could simply restart my phone and any glitch would be removed and my keyboard would return to its normal functioning. I was completely wrong; I haven't been able to use my phone ever since, simply because the keyboard does not come up as usual for me to enter my password, so that since then I've been completely locked out, even though the phone itself is in working order. As far as I know, I don't think that there's any way of overriding the password entry function so that I could simply get into my phone to try to fix the problem that way--but if there is any way, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
Anyway, I have already chatted with a tech from Google Play, and when I saw that nothing worked out down that avenue, I talked with two different HTC support techs. I explained my problem to the last one and said that I would like to perform a Wipe Cache Partition, but as soon as she found out that my phone is Unlocked with S-ON, she said that there's a 50/50 chance my phone could become bricked from performing the cache wipe. She did say that it's all relative to the case, and for some, everything works out fine, while for others, not so much, so she went ahead and created a ticket for me to speak later with the higher-level HTC Developer techs. I have also already visited an actual tech place only to discover that the 2 guys working there primarily specialize in hardware and are unwilling to try any software-related fixes, because of liability issues and probably also because they just haven't got a clue.
My primary concern is losing all the data still stored on my phone, because it is still in working order, and so I feel like I have much more of a chance of somehow retrieving it NOW than if I were to proceed with the cache wipe, have it brick on me, and then be forced to figure something out with a completely broken phone.
So the main question is whether it really is that risky for me to perform a wipe cache partition, because after researching it all over the Internet, I came to the conclusion that it is a safe procedure that should not damage any personal files or information. Now I have found out that is not the case for unlocked phones, which all those tutorial articles fail to mention.
Please, if anyone knows, PLEASE tell me if it would be safe for me to perform this cache wipe on my unlocked phone. But also, if you just have ANY relevant advice to share on this general matter, please let me know.
I have already perused a pretty large quantity of sources all over the net and am growing increasingly worried at the lack of options to get my phone back into working order for me to actually be able to use it again. I decided to turn to this site's forum as a kind of near-last resort, because I am growing pretty panicked and desperate.
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I talked with two different HTC support techs. I explained my problem to the last one and said that I would like to perform a Wipe Cache Partition, but as soon as she found out that my phone is Unlocked with S-ON, she said that there's a 50/50 chance my phone could become bricked from performing the cache wipe.
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Wow :laugh:
Wiping the cache partition will only wipe...... the cache partition (/cache) and it will be repopulated at the next reboot. There is no reason why your phone shouldn't boot after clearing the cache. There are always some risk but its far from 50% imo.
My primary concern is losing all the data still stored on my phone
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You've said that your bootloader is already unlocked right? What about booting in a custom recovery and use ADB to pull all your important files to your computer? Or even better if you have a recent TWRP version, you'll see your phone storage from your computer and you'll be able to simply drag and drop your files to your computer.
Hello there,
Since the old days of my first android phone the Galaxy fit, I used to hard reset my phone after every major update. It keeps my phone bug free and snappy.
Currently my phone Galaxy A70 and Tab S8 receive updates on monthly basis. Unfortunately I keep on doing the same old habit of hard resetting them after every update which means I do it every month or two.
My question us how bad can this affect my device and why?
Thanks
Do you mean like force shut down the phone and then power it on? You only need to wipe cache data on newer phones that usually fixes issues.
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Do you mean like force shut down the phone and then power it on? You only need to wipe cache data on newer phones that usually fixes issues.
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No I mean boot into recovery, wipe data, wipe cache then reboot. Same like you do before installing a custom ROM. Is doing it once every month is bad for the device?
I never tried to wipe the cach only, is it effective?
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No I mean boot into recovery, wipe data, wipe cache then reboot. Same like you do before installing a custom ROM. Is doing it once every month is bad for the device?
I never tried to wipe the cach only, is it effective?
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Well wiping data wouldn't that wipe your photos, music, documents and so on? I have heard wiping only cache helps some times.
I don't know if it's bad for the device, but I do think it's excessive. I haven't purposely wiped a phone before a major update in the last 5+ years, and even before then, it was only major updates such as a completely new Android version.
Well In the old days when I used to be a Flashoholic I flashed my devices every two or three days in the search for a perfect ROM and of course could never find it.
Short answer what you're doing is not necessarily harmful but In the long run you're putting more use and unnecessary stress and cycles to your device battery life span. Flashing/factory reseting/ setting up the device as new take a lot of battery.
Those are my two cents on the matter.
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Well wiping data wouldn't that wipe your photos, music, documents and so on? I have heard wiping only cache helps some times.
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Sorry for the late response. Yes, it wipes everything. I do backup of my photos and documents on a flash memory before I do the hard reset. Anyway I'll try using the wipe cache only and see the reults.
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Well In the old days when I used to be a Flashoholic I flashed my devices every two or three days in the search for a perfect ROM and of course could never find it.
Short answer what you're doing is not necessarily harmful but In the long run you're putting more use and unnecessary stress and cycles to your device battery life span. Flashing/factory reseting/ setting up the device as new take a lot of battery.
Those are my two cents on the matter.
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Yes, you're probably right. I remember my phones burning hot while setting up after the reset. Too much battery strain. My also affects memory integrity. Thanks for the help.