Folks,
I have a nexus 6 with latest 5.1.1 updated, and I am getting lag and stutter. I researched and found that the forced encryption was a major culprit at version 5.0. Was this fixed? From what I can tell, My Nexus 6 is performing similar to my Galaxy s 2 in real life test surfing the net which gives me cause for concern as its extremely expensive.
Update to 5.1.1 or unencrypt.
Evolution_Tech said:
Update to 5.1.1 or unencrypt.
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My 5.1.1. doesn't allow me to unecrypt. Where do you see that option>
I just posted a thread about a performance issue I'm having. I unencrypted yesterday, and the only performance gain I'm noticing is that the phone boots up a little faster. Nothing else has really seemed to change.
Ulieq said:
My 5.1.1. doesn't allow me to unecrypt. Where do you see that option>
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You have to flash a custom kernel that doesn't force encryption.
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Has anyone experienced this? While playing Madden Mobile it lagged quite a bit.
Yep! I have encryption disabled on mine and I have been seeing a lot of stuttering in games. I am not very happy with the performance I am seeing.
could also be that those games are not update to work with 5.0 yet. I haven't got my phone yet but if this is the case with most games, I will be disappointed.
I've been playing Soul Calibur (on sale for $4!!! Go go go!) and I was expecting it to lag. It didn't in fact the overall experience was awesome. That is why I wanted a Nexus phablet!
haven't experienced any game lag with Kingdom Rush Origins.
I'm seeing lag and stutters on Plauge Inc. and Asphalt 8 so far. I haven't tested other games as of yet. It's getting annoying. I might wipe everything and re-flash the stock image to see if it helps at all. What are you guys running right now? I'm rooted and un-encrypted on a 64GB Cloud White.
It could also be the apps themselves like Prod1702 suggested. I'm going to do a comparison with my co-workers N6 before I flash.
Update 1: I'm also seeing the stutters on the boot animation, co-worker is not on his 64GB MB. He is rooted and encrypted and has not changed DPI. I'm going to reflash stock and see if the issue persists.
HowIChrgeLazer said:
I'm seeing lag and stutters on Plauge Inc. and Asphalt 8 so far. I haven't tested other games as of yet. It's getting annoying. I might wipe everything and re-flash the stock image to see if it helps at all. What are you guys running right now? I'm rooted and un-encrypted on a 64GB Cloud White.
It could also be the apps themselves like Prod1702 suggested. I'm going to do a comparison with my co-workers N6 before I flash.
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Stock 32gb
Okay so another update for you OP. I re-flashed with the stock image and did a (manual) full wipe of the userdata using the Nexus Root Toolkit. Also did root and removed encryption again with some manual flashing.
So far no stuttering in Plague Inc like it was before. Going to re-download Asphalt 8 to make sure. If that tests well, I'm going to slowly add things back to see if I can find what caused the problem.
Update 1: Added all google accounts and exchange accounts back, also re-installed my android wear stuff so far. Still no stutter, even after a power off and power on. Perhaps the image from the factory or the OTA update caused some issues with performance. Flashing the image from google via Nexus Root Toolkit seems to have fixed it so far. I'll post if the stuttering returns. Otherwise, it looks good now.
HowIChrgeLazer said:
Okay so another update for you OP. I re-flashed with the stock image and did a (manual) full wipe of the userdata using the Nexus Root Toolkit. Also did root and removed encryption again with some manual flashing.
So far no stuttering in Plague Inc like it was before. Going to re-download Asphalt 8 to make sure. If that tests well, I'm going to slowly add things back to see if I can find what caused the problem.
Update 1: Added all google accounts and exchange accounts back, also re-installed my android wear stuff so far. Still no stutter, even after a power off and power on. Perhaps the image from the factory or the OTA update caused some issues with performance. Flashing the image from google via Nexus Root Toolkit seems to have fixed it so far. I'll post if the stuttering returns. Otherwise, it looks good now.
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Ill have to try flashing the stock image again too then. I am still using the encryption as I dont have any performance issues in homescreens and such, but most of my games lag pretty bad. it feels like they are running between 20-24 fps all the time. Rebooting doesnt help, closing all apps doesnt help. I was going to try removing encryption but it looks like people have the problem even with that. Ill just have to try reflashing the stock ROM and see if the lag goes away.
I just made a thread about this. Just purchased the new Gta Chinatown Wars for Android and it lags like crazy while driving around. Yet on my N5 it's perfectly smooth.
I'm starting to get real worried here
I'm getting really mixed reviews for the lollipop update lately. Some love it, some hate it, some haven't even gotten it. I'm just curious towards the majority of opinions for the new update. So, should we or should we not update?
For me, it was great. Everything worked fine and you get the awesomeness of Android Lollipop. I've seem some people with problems with Xposed, but I don't use that.
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For me, it was great. Everything worked fine and you get the awesomeness of Android Lollipop. I've seem some people with problems with Xposed, but I don't use that.
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Have you noticed any performance problems? Like slow menus or animations? I myself don't have the update, but that's a common problem I hear.
I tried it for short, but it was quite somewhat laggy and not as fast as I am now used to have on custom roms.
But I am interested what other users got to say
Lollipop and KitKat from LG both has terrible RAM management. I had to restart my phone every 48h to stop it from restarting my apps.
Besides that it's quite a good ROM. Very stable, bug free. Workes much faster than KitKat.
AlbinoCookie said:
Have you noticed any performance problems? Like slow menus or animations? I myself don't have the update, but that's a common problem I hear.
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No, to me, it's faster than kitkat, but that might be because I flashed the kdz then reset the phone. I don't use CM because video recording doesn't work.
So after rooting my l90's I noticed my OTA updated one was at least 5 times slower than my offline updated ones. This is not an exaggeration, while installing an app, I was able to remove apps on my other phone, and install the same app, before the app finally installed on the OTA updated phone. That's just the start, menus are slower and there is tons of lag. I'm not sure exactly if it's the OTA that is the issue, but all of my l90s are at most a month old, and were purchased at the same time, so I doubt it's hardware. The firmware of the ota is identical to the offline updated, although I can't definitively determine if updating over the air is the issue because I only have one phone with the OTA. That being said I have also reflashed the same firmware with the offline method onto the ota, and it has made no changes.
Couple couple of things here:
1) I bought a nexus 6 from the Google Play store. I got a few updates since then and also rooted the phone. What I did not notice is the build number. The build number on my phone is: LYZ82J. I searched and found that this is a T-Mobile build. This is really strange because this is not a t-mobile phone. Although my carrier IS T-mobile.
2) The reason why I noticed the build number is this: I wanted to disable the forced encryption. My nexus is running EXTREMELY slow! Its just lags after lags. And I figured maybe disabling the encryption might help.
3) I tried everything to speed up the phone. At this exact moment I have 54.64GB of storage and 1.8 GB of ram Free on my device. I have uninstalled all of the third party apps that run on background, such as Facebook. Other than the root, everything else is completely stock on this phone. I do not have anything running in the background for things like Tasks, Launcher, Gestures, etc.
4) I ran a test on Geekbench 3. Every app was closed. And no third party app was running in the background and I got 774 for single core.
Questions:
1) Why do I have T-Mobile's build on my phone. And is this the reason that the phone is slow.
2) Why is my Pure Stock Nexus 6 so slow.
3) Can I download a factory image from Google's Website and Flash a Different build number on my phone?
3) If not, how can I disable encryption. And will it help speed up my phone?
Thank you so much for your answers in advance.
Mine also has random slow downs. I can't stand it, there's no way such a powerful device should stutter from time to time. I'm running the M3 preview, rooted, i don't think i'm encrypted.
azizmuradov said:
Couple couple of things here:
1) I bought a nexus 6 from the Google Play store. I got a few updates since then and also rooted the phone. What I did not notice is the build number. The build number on my phone is: LYZ82J. I searched and found that this is a T-Mobile build. This is really strange because this is not a t-mobile phone. Although my carrier IS T-mobile.
2) The reason why I noticed the build number is this: I wanted to disable the forced encryption. My nexus is running EXTREMELY slow! Its just lags after lags. And I figured maybe disabling the encryption might help.
3) I tried everything to speed up the phone. At this exact moment I have 54.64GB of storage and 1.8 GB of ram Free on my device. I have uninstalled all of the third party apps that run on background, such as Facebook. Other than the root, everything else is completely stock on this phone. I do not have anything running in the background for things like Tasks, Launcher, Gestures, etc.
4) I ran a test on Geekbench 3. Every app was closed. And no third party app was running in the background and I got 774 for single core.
Questions:
1) Why do I have T-Mobile's build on my phone. And is this the reason that the phone is slow.
2) Why is my Pure Stock Nexus 6 so slow.
3) Can I download a factory image from Google's Website and Flash a Different build number on my phone?
3) If not, how can I disable encryption. And will it help speed up my phone?
Thank you so much for your answers in advance.
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1. I don't know the logic behind the updates, but since your on t-mobile, the updates appear to pull toward your carrier. Doesn't seem to matter that you have non branded.
2. I have always found stock to be much slower than roms. I know it's a pain, but it does help to wipe the phone from time to time.
3. Yes
4. You have use a kernel that doesn't force encrypt, and do a complete wipe to get rid of the current encryption. i dont believe it will speed up the phone to any noticeable amount.
My suggestion would be to go with a well made ROM (there are plenty).
I suggest Pure nexus ROM with hells kernel.
It will give you a stockish feel without all the stock lag.
My geekbench below, running pure and hells.
OTA builds are decided by your sim. T-Mobile sim get T-Mobile build.
Geekbench score running JDX 3.0.4. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-jdx-1-0-t3121053
im glad that i was off today, from both work and xda. otherwise, id explain about whatever you ask..
I get a pretty good score running stock and always have. Maybe try reflashing a factory image and start over?
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I get a pretty good score running stock and always have. Maybe try reflashing a factory image and start over?
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are you running a custom kernel or completely stock? if completely stock, do yoj mess with your cpu at all?
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are you running a custom kernel or completely stock? if completely stock, do yoj mess with your cpu at all?
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I'm completely stock by manually flashing the image files one by one from the Google factory images page. No custom kernel or CPU tweaking. I did root and decrypt using WugFresh NRT.
EDIT: I guess decryption requires a custom kernel technically...
Always remember, those benchmarks mean nothing. the benchmark scores can easily be manipulated by the software optimization and a little system tweaks. A phone with 4 cores can get a higher score than a phone with 6 cores thanks to the system tweaks (in android particularly done in build.prop) and better software optimization. So for me benchmarks are nothing more than a little estimate and their value doesn't mean anything in the practical world.
And if you want to keep your phone upto date without any issues,you should download the nexus 6 toolkit, its the best thing to restore your phone whenever it gets bricked. It's a simple click procedure with one click rooting to boot loader unlocking, try it.
dixonl90 said:
Mine also has random slow downs. I can't stand it, there's no way such a powerful device should stutter from time to time. I'm running the M3 preview, rooted, i don't think i'm encrypted.
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Mine slows to a crawl from time to time, event the soft buttons not responding to touch for several seconds. The boot animation is similarly slow.
It's always been like this as far as I can remember. I am running CM 12.1 nightlies, encrypted.
I guess it depends on your definition of slow. I am just running plain Old stock rooted 5.1.1 encrypted and my device is fast and smooth.
I would suggest wiping the phone and starting over from stock.
Yeah I would wipe and start from scratch. In addition, I would force fstrim on /data and fsck /data /system and/cache.
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I never notice any lag on my nexus 6, its stock on page plus. I have no issues with this phone at all. My moto x pure that I had was a laggy turd, I traded it for a nexus 6
I bought my N6 about a month ago, it was running 5.0.1 during the setup it went through 6 updates until it was on 5.1.1 and build was LMY48M and it's lightning fast. I'm also on Fi network with no problems. Maybe your sim card is bad or carrier is slow. You might want to flash the latest build and a new sim.
Good Luck
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Removing encryption will definitely speed up your phone without reducing battery performance (maybe even improving it).
I'm using N6Shamu Rom with LeanKernel and find a nice balance of performance and battery life.
If you just want performance try Pure Nexus Rom
My Nexus 6 slows down a lot also. I ran geekbench 3 and was getting 700s for single core, well below avg.
This seems to happen after getting a bit warm. If I run geekbench about 2-3 times, the phone starts slowing down a lot. I'm thinking I have a hardware issue.
But other times the phone is buttery smooth as are high demanding games. Who knows.
I just got my very first straight from Motorola N6 last week. I did some looking around before hand to make sure I would be able to root (came from ATT note 4 which is unrootable). While I was researching I noticed there are several noticeable issues w Android 6.x on the N6. From your experience, should I take the ota or stay 5.1.1 and root? I won't be able to update via OTA after root right?Thanks.
This should be in Q&A but what issues are you referring to because I don't really have any marshmallow specific issues.
No issues with 6.0.1 on my N6 here either.
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This should be in Q&A but what issues are you referring to because I don't really have any marshmallow specific issues.
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I've seen several threads/posts regarding issues w being unable to root as well as problems w speaker distortion so I was wondering if it's a common issue or maybe a couple of isolated incidents...
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No issues with 6.0.1 on my N6 here either.
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I've tried out PureNexus and AOSiP and DirtyUnicorn, no issues with any of them other than afwall++ rules don't stick. So if you use a firewall, you might want to wait a little while until an update comes around.
root is pretty simple now with chainfire's systemless root method. Just flash the latest (I think its ver. 2.67) from the marshmallow WIP thread over on the SuperSU forums. It will intelligently detect whether you're running software capable of either systemless (stock android style) or system modding root (most up to date custom roms) I've seen a couple people freak because it bootloops once on them and they immediately come here only to have the device boot up next to them because the new SuperSU.zip is intended to bootloop once or twice while its settings things up. Neat thing about this new systemless root is that you can take an ota as long as you don't let TWRP mount /system as R/W and use the unroot function in the supersu app before installing the ota. (If you ever clear cache in recovery this however won't work because thats where the boot.img backup is stored iirc)
As for speaker distortion I notice you can overdrive the speakers when using equalizers like dolby, beats or viper due to them having a built in amp but with all that stuff off and not maxing out the volume they sound pretty decent really. This wasn't any different in 5.1 so no worries there. There was something that was fixed with slight hardware revision back soon after the phone was released relating to the speakers as well but the 5.1 kernel update helped the pre revisions as well and these changes are carried over to marshmallow.
and as for stuff like cpu cores underclocking and unplugging and speakers going quieter is the kernel lowering these things in order to try and prevent a voltage droop when the battery gets lower causing random reboots that can sometimes be seen in some custom kernels which disable these power-saving measures or don't account for them in some other fashion.
All in all if you like 5.1 you can stay at it. I'm all for people getting their devices going in a way that works and satisfies them. No need to update unless you really want the latest and greatest which honestly is kinda why I bought a nexus in the first place. But with every android update I've ever put on this phone it's just gotten better and better.
No firewalls, my main concern was with speaker issues and not being able to root but looks like maybe just a couple ppl having issues.
Cool stuff man thanks. Took the update my main concern was not being able to root but sounds like I should be good!
DroidManIc said:
I've seen several threads/posts regarding issues w being unable to root as well as problems w speaker distortion so I was wondering if it's a common issue or maybe a couple of isolated incidents...
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Some people are just idiots. Don't use "random internet postings" as evidence.
This is a GOOGLE NEXUS. Root is its middle name.
Hi there,
I have the 64gb/4gb model, has anyone else experienced significantly degraded performance since the update? I read about memory problem in the forum but that seems like it was posted before Pie.
Are there any solutions to this? Anyway we can report it to Google / Xiaomi. Phone was very fast before and now it is sometimes unusable
Thanks
davkap92 said:
Hi there,
I have the 64gb/4gb model, has anyone else experienced significantly degraded performance since the update? I read about memory problem in the forum but that seems like it was posted before Pie.
Are there any solutions to this? Anyway we can report it to Google / Xiaomi. Phone was very fast before and now it is sometimes unusable
Thanks
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Did you try a hard reset ?
Even the memory problem was solved for me after Pie Update
128gb/6gb user here... so far pie is far more better than Oreo.. I use pie since leaked version around November until the latest update, so far so good.. I didn't feel any slowing down or lag