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[Q] Still worth to buy?

I am going to buy a new android cellphone tomorrow and after too much research Xperia Z1 is the phone that fits my budget to its worth with specifications. So my question is after approx 1 year is it Still a value for money? Are there any issues i should be worried about?
My alternate to this is LG G2. Thanks in advance.

Get the G2!
You will get a bigger screen, thinner bezels, Better battery life, double tap to wake and it's smaller than the z1
And the z1 has an annoying problem with the touch screen where it stops registering touches for a little while (unimaginably annoying when it happens during scrolling) and the screen looks yellow,that makes my head hurt

G2 have those touchscreen problems too (as I heard)
Maybe you should check on the LG G2's Q/A section and see the problems there (if they have one).
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I don't have touch problems. And it will get lollipop update. And don't plan to change it soon
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I would find it hard to recommend this phone to anyone.
Just to add to the issues seen by some
I have touch screen issues, in fact the whole screen is crap. The colour and brightness aren't anywhere as good as my wife's Galaxy Note 2 (yes, Note 2, not a typo. A phone more than a year older than my Z1 has a better screen). The touch screen doesn't work properly at all, you just get used it it. It's not accurate and slow to track movement of your finders. Add to that the fact that it seems to completely ignore your touches when you've been using the phone for a bit (possibly temp issues?) and it makes playing games impossible... and like @masterofnocrack said, when your dragging or trying to flick through a long list, it randomly selects something from the list and you've no idea what you just tapped on, it gets more than infuriating.
Locking up - my phone will decide at frequent times to lock up. It will not turn on from sleeping (screen off, standby, whatever it's called). I had resorted to holding VolUp+Power to force it to reboot but then found out that if I just wait it will come back on it's own. It's like some app is using 100% of the CPU and lock's the OS up. I seemed to get the problem most of the time when running apps like Endomondo where it keeps tracking GPS etc while in standby but since uninstalling Endo, its still the same. Not really a Z1 issue but more Firmware, but still a nail in the already tightly nailed down coffin. Also screws with Tasker (see below)...
I did have issues with the OS killing background apps like Tasker (which is really annoying because if Tasker gets killed, all my profiles and settings got messed up so I could be out of the house with no mobile data enabled or in the car with no bluetooth), but I rolled back a ROM version to fix that. (I'm on stock ROM/Kernel but rooted.)
I would sell my own children for a new phone, which is probably a good reason I don't have any kids.
Look somewhere else. If the G2 drops out of the running too, keep looking. DO NOT get a Z1.
I know some will disagree and perhaps think I'm being a bit harsh; and if you've got a Z1 and it works perfectly, good for you and congrats. But knowing what I know now, I wouldn't take the chance of getting a Z1 that has issues.

I have no clue what you are talking about. My wife and I both have a Z1. Hers is running on stock and mine on custom. We never had any of the issues mentioned above. So from my point of view it still is worth the money.

Some have problems and others don't, but it's it worth the gamble?
The OP should save up and get something better like the Z2 or Z3

kdarknight said:
I am going to buy a new android cellphone tomorrow and after too much research Xperia Z1 is the phone that fits my budget to its worth with specifications. So my question is after approx 1 year is it Still a value for money? Are there any issues i should be worried about?
My alternate to this is LG G2. Thanks in advance.
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The answer is.. Yes!
The Z1 is still hell of a beast, performance- and battery wise, around 1 year after release. It's bang for the bucks phone nowadays. Get it, and fine tune it to suit your likings. Nuff' said.
I am willing to help you out with the fine tuning, if you get this lovely ****er into your collection..

I didn't mean to piss on any one's camp fire and I'm glad for @memphis77 that his and his wife's phones both work perfectly, but I know from these forums that there have been plenty of users that have had issues, and even those that have pursued the issues with Sony have just been sent a refurbished phone that had the same issues.
It's just my opinion and personal experience that makes me say do not get a Z1.

kdarknight said:
I am going to buy a new android cellphone tomorrow and after too much research Xperia Z1 is the phone that fits my budget to its worth with specifications. So my question is after approx 1 year is it Still a value for money? Are there any issues i should be worried about?
My alternate to this is LG G2. Thanks in advance.
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It's so beautifull and powerfull. If you love this phone, so buy it. You won't regret it. And of course, it's still worth to buy

I'd say it depends on what you pay for it. I bought mine about a month or two ago for a little over 250 and I couldn't be more pleased.

One more thing to add, and once more, YMMV; piss-poor data rates. WiFi signal is weak at best. The WiFi signal goes down to 1 or zero bars in some rooms in my house but doesn't actually disconnect from the WiFi so the transfer speed is so slow I turn WiFi off and use either H+ or the odd 4G signal I get. You might be thinking "well you're obviously too far away from the router you pillock." Well, maybe an upstairs room is too far... maybe it's not. My wife's Note 2 can still use the WiFi all over the house, my Tab 4 can use the WiFi, my Raspberry Pi with a cheap ass god damn WiFi dongle off eBay can use the WiFi, but not this piece of crap phone.
In a decent H+ signal area, an iPhone 4 beats this with download speeds using mobile data. I have gotten 20Mb/s on 4G (1 bar in my house which was impressive but a fluke as I've never seen that speed again). Looking at speedtest results isn't exactly the be and end all of deciding which phone to get, but it's just another area this phone fails.

masterofnocrack said:
Get the G2!
You will get a bigger screen, thinner bezels, Better battery life, double tap to wake and it's smaller than the z1
And the z1 has an annoying problem with the touch screen where it stops registering touches for a little while (unimaginably annoying when it happens during scrolling) and the screen looks yellow,that makes my head hurt
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my screen is yellow too, but there is a white balance option and now my screen is perfect :3

This is unbelievable!

To give some back round I first bought the Galaxy S6 Edge 128 gb Black Sapphire from ATT direct.
As you can see from my posts no matter what I did I could not get the batter life under control.
Another thing was the screen had a pink cast (the whole screen). I returned the phone back to ATT.
I then continued to read these forums as saw that there was a good majority of people getting
very good battery life. I decided to give the SGS6 another shot but this time I bought the
regular version NOT the Edge. Ordered from the same source ATT online. 128 GB Black Sapphire but the regular version.
Received phone and I can say that there is a night and day difference. First off the screen is perfect.
NO pink cast or banding. Now this phone was set up exactly like the one I returned. Both phones had the
latest Google Services in case you were wondering. The battery life on this phone is amazing! I could
not be happier.
I have to think that there are some phones out there that are defective. I cannot believe the difference
from this phone to the Edge version. I do not think its an Edge problem as just phone by phone basis
but it would be interesting to see if the majority complaints on battery life are from Edge users?
All in all I can say this phone is absolutely amazing, I love it. Thanks to all the posters who made me see the light
and give the S6 another chance.
CC

I had a similar situation. First bought an S6 Edge 32GB from AT&T. Used it for a week...battery life was horrible even after doing the things recommended on XDA to improve it. Phone was very sluggish, apps crashed a lot...and my palm would accidentally touch the edge screen sometimes, which irritated me so I exchanged it for a non-Edge 32GB from AT&T.
COMPLETELY different phone, it's nice and fast, no lag...I get at least 4x the battery life out of this one as I did the Edge. It surprised me, actually. So yes, I'm pretty sure there ARE defective ones out there.

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iiNFAMOUS CHRiS said:
I had a similar situation. First bought an S6 Edge 32GB from AT&T. Used it for a week...battery life was horrible even after doing the things recommended on XDA to improve it. Phone was very sluggish, apps crashed a lot...and my palm would accidentally touch the edge screen sometimes, which irritated me so I exchanged it for a non-Edge 32GB from AT&T.
COMPLETELY different phone, it's nice and fast, no lag...I get at least 4x the battery life out of this one as I did the Edge. It surprised me, actually. So yes, I'm pretty sure there ARE defective ones out there.
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As a side note my new unit is made in Korea. That may also be a factor. I really believe the Korean made
units are better quality. My screen is flawless, the Edge I returned was pink as hell.
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cc999 said:
As a side note my new unit is made in Korea. That may also be a factor. I really believe the Korean made
units are better quality. My screen is flawless, the Edge I returned was pink as hell.
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Don't get me wrong but I thought they were all made in Korea since Samsung is a Korean company could be wrong.

There are definantly more regular S6 that had the Pink screen problem than edge variants. But mostly it seems the S6s in general that came out of Vietnam were problematic to say the least and the US got alot of those expecially poor T-mobile. and speaking I have a Gold s6 Edge and its flawless, I get about days use out of it and achieve somewhere around 3-4 hours playing video games on it off charger. The only problem that really been edge exclusive is the Fast charging Frying the Oriantation sensors. but even then I really wouldn't use the fast charger out of absolutely needing it like on the move or at work where your not gonna leave it on the charger... ie use a slow charger to charge it up when you sleep. < you'll be doing the longevity of your battery a favor.

plaxy said:
There are definantly more regular S6 that had the Pink screen problem than edge variants. But mostly it seems the S6s in general that came out of Vietnam were problematic to say the least and the US got alot of those expecially poor T-mobile. and speaking I have a Gold s6 Edge and its flawless, I get about days use out of it and achieve somewhere around 3-4 hours playing video games on it off charger. The only problem that really been edge exclusive is the Fast charging Frying the Oriantation sensors. but even then I really wouldn't use the fast charger out of absolutely needing it like on the move or at work where your not gonna leave it on the charger... ie use a slow charger to charge it up when you sleep. < you'll be doing the longevity of your battery a favor.
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I got the 128GB S6 (white) for AT&T via Best Buy -- seems to have been manufactured in Korea. No screen issues -- battery life is OK (could be better it feels like) -- I'd concur that I generally get about 1 day worth of use out of it. This seems like one of those things that generally get improved after a couple of firmware releases -- though, I could be wrong, time will tell. So far -- after about 2-3 weeks of use -- it's showing about 14 hours of (estimated) life, on average.
Of course -- once power save mode kicks in and those cores cut off, general responsiveness / app switching seems to take a significant hit.

I bought two from AT&T yesterday. Both had perfect screens and buttons. No issues whatsoever so I guess I was lucky. Both units were made in Korea as well.

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Red5 said:
I bought two from AT&T yesterday. Both had perfect screens and buttons. No issues whatsoever so I guess I was lucky. Both units were made in Korea as well.
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I am very confident to say the Korean made phones are the best for screen quality and overall
build. Its just the luck of the draw what phone you receive. Allot of Vietnamese phones
are having problems.......
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cc999 said:
I am very confident to say the Korean made phones are the best for screen quality and overall
build. Its just the luck of the draw what phone you receive. Allot of Vietnamese phones
are having problems.......
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True that. My At&t one is korean made and is perfect beside Att bloatware Tried and returned two 920i from eBay both made in vietnam and both having problems and poorly made. First one had his front camera not exactly in the middle of the opening and also after restart screen was with really dark colors until you hit the power button and then its fine. The second one had issue with its home button making clicking noises without really pressing it, but just touching it (really annoying).

I have a Korean made black 128gb model purchased from ATT online. Screen is beautiful. Battery life is about what I expected - typically get around 16 hours off charger with 3 hours screen on and some phone calls.

Its just the luck of the draw what phone you receive.

Silly question. How do you guys know point of origin? Im sure somewhere on the box it says, however if I did a warranty claim and they sent the phone only is there something in the model number or about phone list that would indicate?

S6 Active first impressions

Yesterday I received my Samsung Galaxy S6 Active. I've been on the fence about getting one, especially since I have the S5 Active. There didn't seem to be enough of a difference to switch, but I figured I could get it and return it if I didn't like it. Well so far I really like it. Here are items that are making the switch worth while:
Camera - The camera is awesome! Fast and takes great pictures (although the S5 Active does take great pictures also.).
No port covers - It was very nice not having to open the cover every time I need to plug in the USB.
Themes - This is really cool. I didn't have to add anything to install a theme and it's complete. Pretty much everything is themed. The Avengers theme is pretty sweet.
Wireless charging - Although I haven't tried it yet, I'm getting a charging pad as soon as I decide that I'm keeping it.
Some downsides (although I'm good with them):
No micro sd card slot - This one, I can go either way with. I have always added an sd card to any device that had a slot for in case I needed it. So far, I haven't had a time that I actually had to have one. With cloud services and a data connection pretty much everywhere I go, I'm ok with it. Also, I keep a thumb drive with a micro usb connector on it with me most of the time in case I need it.
No removable battery - Again, I can go either way with it. It's nice to just pull the battery on lockups, but that's about it for me. I'm not too worried about switching it out, I normally don't keep the phone long enough for the battery to go bad.
I'm not sure about the battery life yet, but so far so good. After 7.5 hours of medium to heavy use, I'm at 81%.
All in all, I'm pretty happy with it so far.
One week update.
I'm keeping the S6 Active.
The phone is solid and feels good in the hand. The "newer" TouchWiz is ok, but I prefer to use Nova Launcher and the cool thing is that the themes work with it. Again, the camera is outstanding! The battery life is really good. Today I used the phone quite a bit and after 9 hours I'm at 68%. I did notice the occasional lag, but I cleared the cache and it seems to be a lot better.

So, after two weeks with the S6 Active, it's going back to AT&T. There are problems with the touchscreen, especially on the right side. Swiping and scrolling on the right side lags and sometimes dosen't work. There are some issues with using it in water: The dock connected notification pops up when it gets water in the charging port. After the phone was wet, audio from the ear piece and the speaker was really low for about an hour. The phone would not transfer data with a usb cable, even after 8 hours of being dry. It would charge, but not transfer data (I did try 2 different cables and it worked fine with my S5 Active).
Also, earlier today, I had the phone in my pocket and heard it stating that it was going into "VR mode", the screen went black and I could not use the phone. I tried restarting the phone by holding the power and volume down buttons, but it would go back to the black screen when it would reboot. It wasn't until I plugged in a usb cable to try and backup the phone that it started working again.
At this point, I am back to my S5 Active and I'll decide over the weekend whether to exchange the phone or just return.
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Samsung really screwed up removing the port covers.

Disagree completely!
Port covers are just something that breaks causing the phone to fail. Just a matter of common sense to dry your phone off before plugging it in!
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Picked mine up Saturday. Got 5 hours SOT the first day. Gonna hammer the usage today and see how much I have left after 6 hours SOT. Pretty sweet device so far. If it had 64GB of storage, it would be about the best phone I have used in a while!
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I completely agree! I used my S6 Active in fresh and salt water this weekend and had no unexpected issues at all.
Once submerged, while recording, the audio was distorted until I blew into the mic sharply to clear off the water. Completely expected and unpreventable and a non-issue.

I may have gotten a bad phone. I blew out the ports and waited at least an hour before plugging it in and still had problems with it. I will probably exchange it later today or tomorrow. I contemplated returning it, but I really did like it before the problems.

I went from an N5 to an Active and I like it, but the new update seems to shoot out the "Connected to Dock" a lot and that is very annoying considering it stops you from doing anything at that moment. It'll just pop up like 20 times in a row.

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I went from an N5 to an Active and I like it, but the new update seems to shoot out the "Connected to Dock" a lot and that is very annoying considering it stops you from doing anything at that moment. It'll just pop up like 20 times in a row.
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What are you doing when that pop up comes up? I have the latest update and haven't seen anything like that on my S6 Active.

MarineSSGT0629 said:
What are you doing when that pop up comes up? I have the latest update and haven't seen anything like that on my S6 Active.
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It'll just pop up randomly, but when it does it isn't just once. Even restarting the phone doesn't get it to go away. It hasn't done it for a few hours. I'll have issues with it charging and it'll say that with the fast charger. I have a regular usb plugged into it right now and have zero issues. I was however in the pool with it on Saturday to play with the camera underwater. Pocketnow's review on the phone mentions the same thing, but theirs went away after 30 mins.
http://pocketnow.com/2015/06/23/galaxy-s6-active-review
"Take the phone out of the water and you’re bound to see a flickering notification at the top of the screen informing you that the “dock is connected” – an error that doesn’t seem confined to waterproof Samsungs. Considering how long this bug has been around, it’s disappointing that Samsung didn’t correct it before releasing such a supposedly rugged smartphone. Fortunately, the fix is relatively easy: just take a deep breath and blow some air into the USB port like it’s an old Nintendo cartridge, then leave it in front of a fan to dry."

I just picked my active up yesterday. I really really love the phone and the camera and the waterproofing. I had an s6 edge but I was sold a financed (unlocked tmobile) phone without my knowledgd. I really miss the capacitive buttons and the fingerprint reader, as well as the bottom facing speaker. But still an amazing phone. I almost wonder if I should exchange for the leather back g4 though... I'm very Conflicted... what do you guys think? Stick with the active? Or try the g4? (I only get one exchanhe)

I went a head and exchanged mine instead of returning it. This ones to run smoother, the screen seems to be working properly. I did the latest update, but I don't see any difference yet.

Craleb said:
I just picked my active up yesterday. I really really love the phone and the camera and the waterproofing. I had an s6 edge but I was sold a financed (unlocked tmobile) phone without my knowledgd. I really miss the capacitive buttons and the fingerprint reader, as well as the bottom facing speaker. But still an amazing phone. I almost wonder if I should exchange for the leather back g4 though... I'm very Conflicted... what do you guys think? Stick with the active? Or try the g4? (I only get one exchanhe)
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If you want the waterproofing, you will have to stick with the Active.

The s6 active is the best Samsung phone out right now...it's battery is a beast and it's tough as nails...love it!
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Kindly Vote for root...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/xda-assist/root-samsung-galaxy-s6-active-sm-g890a-t3257656

I have a nickname for this phone: "Perfect" ? that's how great this phone is in my opinion, still waiting for root though to unleash the beast.
Still missing battery and SD card access not because I really need them (yet) but not having access to all your phone's hardware and software features it feels like the phone is not your property entirely.
Things that impressed me so far are build quality, great grip, screen is amazing making reading and video rendering a pleasant experience, sound quality for calls is great too, not so impressive for music play on speaker or aux on car speakers but good with headphones, pretty fast CPU and RAM, battery life is an improvement I was waiting for for years but missing solar charge (still waiting for this technology to be implemented in smartphones), wireless charging is not my thing because it takes too long.
And of course being a "not bent friendly" device is like having wild berries instead of... you know what ?

Anyone considering the V30?

I'm curious if anyone is considering moving to the V30? The better screen and newer processor does intrigue me.
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Absolutely! Dumping the g6 as soon as I can. I just hope that they fix the issues that the g6 has before releasing it.

brandonpa said:
Absolutely! Dumping the g6 as soon as I can. I just hope that they fix the issues that the g6 has before releasing it.
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What issues are you having?
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1. Well the first major issue is that I can't get this phone to connect to a 5ghz network, I know others can but for some reason my phone cannot (see screenshot). it finds them, but "disabled" them when I try to connected (yes I am using the right password to connect). The 2.4 connects, but I get random drops in connection all of the time at differing intervals.
2. I get dropped calls all of the time, even when I am in an area with full service and sometimes when I am on a call I can hear the other people fine, but they can't hear me at all. I had to disable VoLTE because the calls 'sounded' good but everything was digitized and half of the time everything was scrambled and unable to understand them.
3. Camera - I am still not quite sure why many are comparing this camera to the Galaxy S8 or Iphone. The pictures that I take with this phone are abysmal. The night photos are grainy and the day photos look great on this screen, but as soon as I look at them with a larger screen they are unfocused and unclear. I get it, I can switch to manual mode and mess around with the settings to make the pictures "phenomenal" as I have been told, but that takes time, and by the time that I have the right settings for a good picture, my wife's S8 could have taken 10 pictures that look so much better than this camera can take. (yes I have wiped the lens off, it is clean and I am using the LG camera program).
4. Battery: I had this phone since may, and I am lucky to get 12 hours on a charge (from 100% to 20%) with light duty usage. I know that is subjective and is affected by what programs that you use and how much you use the phone throughout the day, but on the Galaxy S6 Plus that I had, after a year I was still getting 18-24 hours on similar usage with the battery.
I know that I keep referring back to Samsung Phones for my examples, but that is the comparison that I have to this phone. I have used Sammy phones for the past 4 years and, personally, I wanted to switch to LG to get off of the Sammy phones because I am not a Samsung fanboy. They have their issues and those issues were big enough to cause me to switch to LG for this phone.
I have taken the phone back to the store and, of course, everything 'magically' works when I am there, so they won't touch it or replace it. Thus, I am dropping this phone as soon as I humanly can.
Thanks and I hope that you don't have the same issues that I have, as it seems people either love or hate this phone and unfortunately I hate it.
Brandon

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1. Well the first major issue is that I can't get this phone to connect to a 5ghz network, I know others can but for some reason my phone cannot (see screenshot). it finds them, but "disabled" them when I try to connected (yes I am using the right password to connect). The 2.4 connects, but I get random drops in connection all of the time at differing intervals.
2. I get dropped calls all of the time, even when I am in an area with full service and sometimes when I am on a call I can hear the other people fine, but they can't hear me at all. I had to disable VoLTE because the calls 'sounded' good but everything was digitized and half of the time everything was scrambled and unable to understand them.
3. Camera - I am still not quite sure why many are comparing this camera to the Galaxy S8 or Iphone. The pictures that I take with this phone are abysmal. The night photos are grainy and the day photos look great on this screen, but as soon as I look at them with a larger screen they are unfocused and unclear. I get it, I can switch to manual mode and mess around with the settings to make the pictures "phenomenal" as I have been told, but that takes time, and by the time that I have the right settings for a good picture, my wife's S8 could have taken 10 pictures that look so much better than this camera can take. (yes I have wiped the lens off, it is clean and I am using the LG camera program).
4. Battery: I had this phone since may, and I am lucky to get 12 hours on a charge (from 100% to 20%) with light duty usage. I know that is subjective and is affected by what programs that you use and how much you use the phone throughout the day, but on the Galaxy S6 Plus that I had, after a year I was still getting 18-24 hours on similar usage with the battery.
I know that I keep referring back to Samsung Phones for my examples, but that is the comparison that I have to this phone. I have used Sammy phones for the past 4 years and, personally, I wanted to switch to LG to get off of the Sammy phones because I am not a Samsung fanboy. They have their issues and those issues were big enough to cause me to switch to LG for this phone.
I have taken the phone back to the store and, of course, everything 'magically' works when I am there, so they won't touch it or replace it. Thus, I am dropping this phone as soon as I humanly can.
Thanks and I hope that you don't have the same issues that I have, as it seems people either love or hate this phone and unfortunately I hate it.
Brandon
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Wow, that's crazy. I don't have any issues like that with mine.
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I've had mine replaced twice for dropping calls, so bad that the radio icons would literally disappear and reappear, dropping the call or WiFi.
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I was thinking about ordering a G6 today, but after reading about the V30 think that it may be the way to go. A lot of what made me reconsider was in this forum, and how much the G6 is restricted by TMo. I have a rooted LG G4 which has been fine after being fixed for the bootloop problem. I've just been bitter about having to put lineage on it.

Yes! I'm planning on returning one of my G6's via JUMP! and upgrading to a v30. Probably within the next month. I'm waiting for a good promotion and a few paychecks. But definitely getting one to use side by side with my paid off G6 & LineageOS G4.
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I'm just curious (new to LG - except for my Nexus 5)...
What makes you assume the V30 would be better than the G6?

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I'm just curious (new to LG - except for my Nexus 5)...
What makes you assume the V30 would be better than the G6?
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I second this question. It'll probably be even more locked down than the G6, if thats possible.

I also ask the same question (despite wanting to dump the g6), to me it is the assumption that the fixed the problems that plagued the G6. Or it is just because i don't like the g6 enough that I hope that phone is better in 'any' way at this point.

I find that my G6 tends to lag a lot. I'm afraid the V30 will also since it has the same 4GB of memory.
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I find that my G6 tends to lag a lot. I'm afraid the V30 will also since it has the same 4GB of memory.
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I saw that as well. I also saw some reviews that despite the phone being very well made, the screen is junk? Anyone see or hear the same issue?

Not a chance in hell.
Worst phone experience I've had in years.
Camera glass cracked from what I can only conclude is expansion and not enough tolerance in the design to have a water resistant phone. I'm not alone in this issue by any means, LG refused to acknowledge it, instead screwing customers over for overpriced repairs. I appreciate that some users are rough with their devices and likely caused the damage but I baby my phones and this was not user caused in my case and no doubt many others.
Removing the ability to access root is a deal breaker for me. It's not that the phone isn't nice to use, and I don't need a bunch of niche apps.
It's quite simply that being locked down is IMO a deliberate move between TMobile and LG to limit any version upgrades that lengthen the life of a device and cannibalizes their 'jump' programs and phone purchases in general. This is evidenced by the fact that it's still on the very base 7.0 version of Android Nougat (no interest in giving customers the important Google incremental updates).
Oreo having been out for months, I doubt this phone will see it.
I tend to keep phone's longer than a year, my previous Nexus 5 was nearly 4 years old when I got the G6, and had I kept it, would be running Oreo right now instead of Nougat!
Fool me once shame on you..... Fool me twice shame on me. Not gonna happen.
Buying a pixel outright and chopping phone insurance and the jump plan costs from my bill.
YMMV - but you did ask for user opinions! That means the good and the bad.

I wanted the V30, and was waiting to get one but needed to add a line in late august for one of my kids so I got a pair of G6's for $500 on a bogo. Honestly, this might be the best phone I've had to date. I get great battery life, the camera is great, and the performance is great. I disable everything I can that I don't use and its been fine. Plenty of storage for me.
So with all that said, I just don't see there being enough of an upgrade in the V30. The quad dac will not do much for me because I stream my music from spotify. While the camera may be an upgrade, I'm not sure its $550 better after I use my jump. Screen is a little bigger and I think the minor gains in battery life will be negligible. Plus, the screen issues I'm hearing about on both the V30 and Pixel XL 2 have me thinking I'm just fine staying on the G6 with its LCD screen for a few more months.
Bottom line, I don't think its a huge upgrade for me especially when I factor in the cost. I'll be Jump eligible by next spring, May use it on the G7 or wait for the V40.

I was excited for the V30, but I read the LED screen is not great. Some say its good, others says it's terrible. Everyone agrees it's not as good as Samsung's LED screens. I own several Samsung LED devices, so I'll probably notice the difference. Maybe the later batches of the V30 (2018 build dates) will be better. The later batches of the G5 and G6 fixed some of the imperfections of the first batches.

US Version only

There have been 2 pretty severe problems with the early European devices. Starting tomorrow the US version should hit the shelves and homes. If you can would you please address each of the 2 issues as you can.
1. Google Pay not working at the terminal (you can register the cards but they don't work in the stores)
2. The infamous gap of the body / screen (even gap, no gap, awful uneven gap)
I don't really like polls but if someone wanted to make a poll that would be fine as well. This US device is a different build due to the high speed 5G antenna so perhaps we will avoid these problems. Furthermore, if you have any other problems such as screen flickering, fingerprint sensor not working etc. post that here as well. Thanks and good luck to us. Mine (sage) comes on Friday.

bobby janow said:
There have been 2 pretty severe problems with the early European devices. Starting tomorrow the US version should hit the shelves and homes. If you can would you please address each of the 2 issues as you can.
1. Google Pay not working at the terminal (you can register the cards but they don't work in the stores)
2. The infamous gap of the body / screen (even gap, no gap, awful uneven gap)
I don't really like polls but if someone wanted to make a poll that would be fine as well. This US device is a different build due to the high speed 5G antenna so perhaps we will avoid these problems. Furthermore, if you have any other problems such as screen flickering, fingerprint sensor not working etc. post that here as well. Thanks and good luck to us. Mine (sage) comes on Friday.
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People doing US reviews seem to suggest that even when they have the gap issue, it's fairly small and uniform, but lots of people say they don't notice a gap at all in their reviews. This doesn't mean there won't be an issue though..

BryAlrighty said:
People doing US reviews seem to suggest that even when they have the gap issue, it's fairly small and uniform, but lots of people say they don't notice a gap at all in their reviews. This doesn't mean there won't be an issue though..
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I know. I really want to see some demo models but none of the stores here have it yet.

Best buy had every one on display. 4a 5g, 4a, and the 5 in black. Not a hint of a gap..I tried to take a picture but I suck at it and it came out like crap. When I get home I'll see if I can fix it up a little..btw damn this is a nice phone.

Here ya go. Best I could do..

I just finished setting up the Pixel 5 (received it today; sage color). There is no gap on the phone.
Google Pay had two separate “setups”: at the beginning after transferring the information from my old Pixel. Then a later one after all my apps were downloaded and I thought it was finished with “setting up” the phone: the drop down notification said “Finish setting up your Pixel”. During this time, it wanted the Google Pay information, again, but it looked different from the first GPay screen. I have to check if it works.
I called a friend to see how it sounded and I’m not crazy about how the under glass speaker sounded. It’s hard to explain, but it is slightly less clear compared to the 3 XL. It wasn’t awful. Maybe I would not have noticed if it wasn’t mentioned in some of the reviews. On the other hand, my friend reported that I sounded crystal clear. That’s all for my initial impressions.

Fingerprint Sensor
My fingerprint sensor did not work. Went ahead and returned it. Reset it 4 times.

bobby janow said:
Here ya go. Best I could do..
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You can't see the left corner haha. No worries though. My black one looks very similar. I went into a BestBuy today and looked at the 2 demos they had. I could see ever so slight differences in the space between the frame and screen. I think mine was about between these 2 units I saw. I really want to see a sage green one to compare to.
We are really talking about splitting hairs here too though
Fingers crossed the issue doesn't pop up in a few days/weeks.

Just received my Sage, pre-ordered from Fi, thus Google Store. No extras received. Charger, cord, USB C to A adaptor, SIM tool in the box. Color is cool. No gap whatsoever. Cleaned phone with microfiber and straight into a case, Spigen Ultra Hybrid clear, then onto the charger. Powered up fine and activated quickly. BUT Wi-Fi connection issue occurred. Tried two different connections, double checked passwords, and still a problem. Finally connected after about 10 min. Then, used my old Pixel 2 XL cord to copy data; cord is still useful for data - I'm impressed. Flawless Google properties setup, data copy (maybe 3.5-5GB) took about 6-8 minutes. Fingerprint setup had a couple of error messages - sensor dirty - but other than that it worked fine. I did have my case on during fingerprint setup. After that, "Getting your phone ready" took a bit: 112 apps to download and set up. Definitely need to review all those apps. Took FOREVER.

No screen gap on my sage. I'll test google pay tomorrow at the store. Loving this phone so far. Will say that photos do take an extra second to process.

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"Getting your phone ready" took a bit: 112 apps to download and set up. Definitely need to review all those apps. Took FOREVER.
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It appears that Google is downloading a fresh copy of every Google/Pixel app. It's taking a looooooooong time. I'm not sure, but they don't appear to say "update" on the Play Store. Maybe it ships without the apps, or they could all need updating. It really seems like it is every Pixel/Google app. I remember reading an article saying something like this being the case for foreign phones b/c of some settlement. But on a US phone, it appears nothing Google is preinstalled. Maybe that was the same for my 2XL but I honestly don't remember. Made sure it was on 5GHz WiFi just now.

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It appears that Google is downloading a fresh copy of every Google/Pixel app. It's taking a looooooooong time. I'm not sure, but they don't appear to say "update" on the Play Store. Maybe it ships without the apps, or they could all need updating. It really seems like it is every Pixel/Google app. I remember reading an article saying something like this being the case for foreign phones b/c of some settlement. But on a US phone, it appears nothing Google is preinstalled. Maybe that was the same for my 2XL but I honestly don't remember. Made sure it was on 5GHz WiFi just now.
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The same thing when I went from the 3 to the 3a and then to the 4. Once that starts I walk away for a half hour and when I come back it's almost done.

Got my Sage yesterday here in the US from Verizon. Zero gap on all four sides (tried the paper suggestion). You guys had me worried as hell the last couple of weeks. :victory:
I got it in the evening, so I haven't been able to test Google Pay.

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Got my Sage yesterday here in the US from Verizon. Zero gap on all four sides (tried the paper suggestion). You guys had me worried as hell the last couple of weeks. :victory:
I got it in the evening, so I haven't been able to test Google Pay.
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Mine comes in today. What is the paper suggestion thing?

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Mine comes in today. What is the paper suggestion thing?
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I thought it was going a bit overboard, but there's been some folks that wanted to see if you could fit a sheet of paper in-between the aluminum and plastic border of the screen.

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I thought it was going a bit overboard, but there's been some folks that wanted to see if you could fit a sheet of paper in-between the aluminum and plastic border of the screen.
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I see. Thanks for the quick response dude.

Update: No issues with google pay, no gap, no "brownish" screen. Device is awesome, exactly what I want in a phone.

No gap at all, I'll use it for GP tomorrow. Wow this thing is light.

Got my Black Pixel 5 yesterday - went thru setup flawlessly, fingerprint works fine - setup quickly. No gap. Have not tried using Google Pay but will sometime next week.
I am coming from the Samsung Note 20 Ultra (keeping that phone and will ultimately use both depending on my mood) what strikes me most is - I can't remember how long it has been since I have used a phone as small as the Pixel 5. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean it is tiny - just a whole lot smaller than my previous samsung devices (and the Samsung Note 20 Ultra) but honestly, it feels great. Much eaiser to use one handed, feels good in the hand, unlocking with the fingerprint scanner on the back is really a better experience than Samsungs Underscreen fingerprint scanner.
Pixel 5 is an awesome phone. Glad I got it! (I would not say it is better than my Samsung Note 20 Ultra - Different and good in different ways than the Samsung is - if that makes sense)

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Got my Black Pixel 5 yesterday - went thru setup flawlessly, fingerprint works fine - setup quickly. No gap. Have not tried using Google Pay but will sometime next week.
I am coming from the Samsung Note 20 Ultra (keeping that phone and will ultimately use both depending on my mood) what strikes me most is - I can't remember how long it has been since I have used a phone as small as the Pixel 5. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean it is tiny - just a whole lot smaller than my previous samsung devices (and the Samsung Note 20 Ultra) but honestly, it feels great. Much eaiser to use one handed, feels good in the hand, unlocking with the fingerprint scanner on the back is really a better experience than Samsungs Underscreen fingerprint scanner.
Pixel 5 is an awesome phone. Glad I got it! (I would not say it is better than my Samsung Note 20 Ultra - Different and good in different ways than the Samsung is - if that makes sense)
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I can't agree more regarding the size. Coming from an S20 Ultra, I can't imagine going back to a bigger screened phone again. This size and weight of the P5 are perfect.