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Is there any work being done for a temporary Root option? I ask because it seems that I only need Root for certain issues!
Scenario: Access my hosts file, Tor...etc!
TIA
What is the benefit to only being rooted temporarily? Honestly there isn't a huge security benefit to it, and usability suffers because you have to root it when you want to do anything in your scenarios.
Why not just use SuperUser.apk and not have it remember any associations? That way you only authorize root privileges when you need them, but can stay rooted.
Temp rooting shouldn't even be released for this since we have a permroot so either root your xoom and leave it that way or stay stock
I wouldn't mind a temp root because I haven't rooted from the start, waiting for the 4G upgrade, and because fastboot oem unlock requires a wipe, I don't want to do it, then restore, then do it again. A temp root would be perfect.
I actually have to second Archon810's post. I also would like a temp-root solution so that I could backup my Xoom BEFORE fastboot oem unlock, due to the wipe. I moved all my games off my G2, and started playing further on the tablet screen. However, now I'm gonna lose all those save games. Kinda sucks...
flamingblue8z said:
I actually have to second Archon810's post. I also would like a temp-root solution so that I could backup my Xoom BEFORE fastboot oem unlock, due to the wipe. I moved all my games off my G2, and started playing further on the tablet screen. However, now I'm gonna lose all those save games. Kinda sucks...
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Either I have completely forgotten how linux works, or you guys just don't get it. AFAIK there's no "temp root". You root, you're rooted.
Not getting what the issue is here either. With superuser you have full control over what app has root access and which not. Root access can be granted and revoked at any time. So certain "things" can have root access, certain not...
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Either I have completely forgotten how linux works, or you guys just don't get it. AFAIK there's no "temp root". You root, you're rooted.
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I believe people want something like the "temp" root achieved for Sensation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15260896&postcount=1; it works quite well for me (no unlock required, one can disable unwanted apps, Titanium works).
"Temporary", since after rebooting updated parts of a locked NAND are overwritten and the changes lost.
This would be useful if you wanted to watch movies from the Market but still wanted to use other things that required root access. Reboot clean, watch movies, run root app, make backups.
My wife's MyTouch 3G Slide had a temporary root app that she only needed when she needed to use the phone as a WiFi Hotspot.
JohannFaust said:
I believe people want something like the "temp" root achieved for Sensation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15260896&postcount=1; it works quite well for me (no unlock required, one can disable unwanted apps, Titanium works).
"Temporary", since after rebooting updated parts of a locked NAND are overwritten and the changes lost.
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The only reason this is out, is because they don't have real root. And yes you can disable apps...but they are still there.
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I still think a temp root solution would have been nice. Because I just rooted (which is less root, more NAND unlock) so I could upgrade to 3.2 and have full root functionality from MyBackup Pro. Some stability issues, but I will try reflashing in a bit. Would have really been nice to back everything up first, though.
Guys it seems like everyone is concerned about saving apps prior to rooting. Fyi- you can use Androidcommander and back up all your apps and install apps prior to rooting or after rooting. So if thats your concern problem solved...Don't root if your scared but when you follow directions its really a simple root and you learn a little as well.
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playya said:
Guys it seems like everyone is concerned about saving apps prior to rooting. Fyi- you can use Androidcommander and back up all your apps and install apps prior to rooting or after rooting. So if thats your concern problem solved...Don't root if your scared but when you follow directions its really a simple root and you learn a little as well.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
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This is also why the first thing you should do is fastboot oem unlock. You haven't rooted and all apps will still work. But if you decide to root later, you will not loose anything.
playya said:
Guys it seems like everyone is concerned about saving apps prior to rooting. Fyi- you can use Androidcommander and back up all your apps and install apps prior to rooting or after rooting. So if thats your concern problem solved...Don't root if your scared but when you follow directions its really a simple root and you learn a little as well.
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No no, I have my apps already backed up by MyBackup Pro. Its my APP DATA, the save games n'at, that I was trying to back up. Its a moot point now, for me, since I already bit the bullet and rooted, but it would have been valuable to others.
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The only reason this is out, is because they don't have real root. And yes you can disable apps...but they are still there.
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Not true at all. The Droid X could get permanent OR Temp Root from Z4root, as could MANY phones on froyo. It could Temp root 99% of phones on froyo or earlier according to the developer and the numerous people chiming in that it worked for htem. Some things i just want temp root, so i can backup or access some file. Otherwise, i don't need root full time on this tablet, didn't need it full time either on my Galaxy tab, which i also could Temp root with Z4Root. And did numerous times with ease and no problems
Some of us don't need permanent root. Why is that so hard to understand. I have full root on my X, don't need that on my tablet. Biggest reason is for what was listed, don't want ot have to wipe the whole device. That is just overkill and silly to me. If you want root with a Xoom you realy need to do it from day 1 so you lose nothing.
cwizardtx said:
Either I have completely forgotten how linux works, or you guys just don't get it. AFAIK there's no "temp root". You root, you're rooted.
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No offense but by saying that you don't know how linux works... If you are on the command line in Linux and type SU or SUDO plus a command after it you gain TEMPORARY ROOT for that command once you put in the password. It is TEMP, after that command passes you are normal user again. Yes you can root yourself full time, but that is a silly thing to do on a linux system and removes a lot of security. Not hard to plug in a password the few times you need to access stuff or edit things
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don't want ot have to wipe the whole device. That is just overkill and silly to me.
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that's my point, if I can root my HTC EVO without wiping why should I have to do that with my xoom?
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Mybackup Root Androidcommander Titanium Backup can all put your rom back to where it was in minutes. It takes longer to.read why you don't want to root than it would take to restore IMO. Don't root of you don't want to but really do t use the my programs line..
No disrespect though just think with what we have today restoring is not that not big of a deal and after you root clockwork and nandroids are your best friends
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IceCreaMan said:
that's my point, if I can root my HTC EVO without wiping why should I have to do that with my xoom?
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Yup thats holding me back, too. Unlike my phones (Hero and Desire) I have not rooted my Xoom on the first day just because I was unsure if I would keep it. Now I am stuck in this mess while one side of me wants to root and install 3.2 and the other side doesn't want to lose all the progress made in the apps/games/whatever...
OK I know pwnmymoto is the current updated root method for the moto x but it is not simply unrooted. RSDlite and flashing is required (sadly I am a noob to this). Mainly doing this to get tethering (unlimited data Verizon plan). Was thinking that I would just install the motoroot app for root instead cause then I can revert back to stock when an ota for the camera comes out with a simple factory reset as the recovery is not modified like in the pwnmymoto app. Is this a correct assumption and a smart way to go about this? Thanks for any info or advice. @jcase
codymoto said:
OK I know pwnmymoto is the current updated root method for the moto x but it is not simply unrooted. RSDlite and flashing is required (sadly I am a noob to this). Mainly doing this to get tethering (unlimited data Verizon plan). Was thinking that I would just install the motoroot app for root instead cause then I can revert back to stock when an ota for the camera comes out with a simple factory reset as the recovery is not modified like in the pwnmymoto app. Is this a correct assumption and a smart way to go about this? Thanks for any info or advice. @jcase
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If you used motoroot, you can just press the unroot button then uninstall the app
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If you used motoroot, you can just press the unroot button then uninstall the app
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@jcase then I assume uninstalling supersu next. Figured I would not need a r/w root as your pwnmymoto if all I will be doing is rocking a tether app. Kind of looking forward to the ota for this dang camera on Verizon.
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@jcase then I assume uninstalling supersu next. Figured I would not need a r/w root as your pwnmymoto if all I will be doing is rocking a tether app. Kind of looking forward to the ota for this dang camera on Verizon.
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If you stay rooted and wait for the bootstrap, you should be able to flash the updates and keep root. No ETA on the bootstrap though. Jcase has mentioned he doesn't plan on exploiting the update but you never know.
rmead01 said:
If you stay rooted and wait for the bootstrap, you should be able to flash the updates and keep root. No ETA on the bootstrap though. Jcase has mentioned he doesn't plan on exploiting the update but you never know.
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OK I got ya. So just to clarify for my knowledge. I am safe to install OTA updates because I never messed with the recovery is that correct? And hence why you can't with pwnmymoto as it replaces the recovery. Just new to rooting and am figuring it out as I go a long. I apologize for the stupid questions haha. Soon I will become versed in this but just behind the times (haven't done any modifications like this since the old Xbox modding days).
So gotta thank @jcase for the answers and his old exploit LINK
After installing his motoroot app and then superSU. All I did was install wifi tether and followed the directions posted by @addictedhacks LINK
Happy with this route as it was super simple, did not need a PC, and got me my wifi tether for my verizon phone. The big plus and the reason I went this way was for the ability to unroot without a PC (and I believe no fear of an OTA causing issues if updated), and I really did not need the R/W ability of jcase's pwnmymoto being new to all this rooting. Gotta start somewhere. I figured I would share in case other new people out there are afraid to go forward and maybe this route is a viable option for you. Thanks.
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Has anyone on Verizon done the OTA update and kept root? From what I've been reading, sounds like if you rooted with MotoRoot then you're okay, but not if you used PwnMyMoto.
As far as people getting a bootloop, that does make some sense because the recovery partition is really just the boot image... So I can flash the stock recovery to the recovery partition before running the update, and that should theoretically prevent a bootloop. However, if this is going to erase my root, then I don't want to do the update.
So, has anyone on verizon done the OTA and kept their root? How did you do it?
First item, this is a question so it should belong in the question and answer threads! Secondly look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466191
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Sorry, and thanks! I'll probably give this a shot, make that camera work a little better...
You can always install the SafeStrap ROM here. That's what I did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484908
[Rom] [VZW] SafeStrap 139.12.57
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The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
dymmeh said:
The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
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This method makes it so SafeStrap is no longer available though, right? If that's not the case then... Don't know what I've been waiting for!
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mercado79 said:
This method makes it so SafeStrap is no longer available though, right? If that's not the case then... Don't know what I've been waiting for!
Sent from my Moto X
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I searched around and can't really find an answer to that. I don't use SafeStrap so I have no idea. I'd assume you can try the method I posted and try using SafeStrap after. If that doesn't work then just RSD back to pre-update and hang on to SafeStrap until it's figured out. No guarantees if it'd work / break stuff, though. You'd be the guinea pig for that one.
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I searched around and can't really find an answer to that. I don't use SafeStrap so I have no idea. I'd assume you can try the method I posted and try using SafeStrap after. If that doesn't work then just RSD back to pre-update and hang on to SafeStrap until it's figured out. No guarantees if it'd work / break stuff, though. You'd be the guinea pig for that one.
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@jcase Any chance you can answer this for us? Just cause someone was able to keep root (the one shot kind you mentioned), does that mean that using RSD is still on the table?
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mercado79 said:
@jcase Any chance you can answer this for us? Just cause someone was able to keep root (the one shot kind you mentioned), does that mean that using RSD is still on the table?
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If you take the OTA you dont have wY to revert to old stock Motorola block the reverts already and @jcase already said that he will be back for root in this device till 4.3 is out
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juancaperez2000 said:
If you take the OTA you dont have wY to revert to old stock Motorola block the reverts already and @jcase already said that he will be back for root in this device till 4.3 is out
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That's what I thought too. Thanks.
MikeyNick said:
All,
Has anyone on Verizon done the OTA update and kept root? From what I've been reading, sounds like if you rooted with MotoRoot then you're okay, but not if you used PwnMyMoto.
As far as people getting a bootloop, that does make some sense because the recovery partition is really just the boot image... So I can flash the stock recovery to the recovery partition before running the update, and that should theoretically prevent a bootloop. However, if this is going to erase my root, then I don't want to do the update.
So, has anyone on verizon done the OTA and kept their root? How did you do it?
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For sure have I just updated my Moto X the other day on VZW and kept root. Here is a link to the process on how to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466191
will2live said:
For sure have I just updated my Moto X the other day on VZW and kept root. Here is a link to the process on how to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466191
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I think that's not up for debate. The issue is that even though you kept root, you're now blocked from using safestrap or ever gaining root again in the future (once another ota comes through). The update has now patched root going forward and it sounds like you won't be able to keep it after this update.
MikeyNick said:
All,
Has anyone on Verizon done the OTA update and kept root? From what I've been reading, sounds like if you rooted with MotoRoot then you're okay, but not if you used PwnMyMoto.
As far as people getting a bootloop, that does make some sense because the recovery partition is really just the boot image... So I can flash the stock recovery to the recovery partition before running the update, and that should theoretically prevent a bootloop. However, if this is going to erase my root, then I don't want to do the update.
So, has anyone on verizon done the OTA and kept their root? How did you do it?
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mercado79 said:
I think that's not up for debate. The issue is that even though you kept root, you're now blocked from using safestrap or ever gaining root again in the future (once another ota comes through). The update has now patched root going forward and it sounds like you won't be able to keep it after this update.
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Safestrap i know about and dont care about as i dont use it. As for moving forward with root I'll be surprised if that is the case but I wont disagree either. It is very possible they patch something to actually block root down the road. From my understanding tho currently the patch is blocking ppl to root the update not keeping root if the process is followed correctly. My guess is odds are it will be the same on the next OTA just like we had to do on the original Razr line to keep root until the bootloader was unlocked. However if the next OTA is 4.3 tha tcould all change for sure as anything is possible. Even so when that time comes I'll just unlock mine. I do have a Dev edition i just haven't unlocked with it being brand new and not wanting to void warranty yet to make sure hardware is cool but i do want root so i went the long route for now is all.
dymmeh said:
The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
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So I installed PwnMyMoto, SuperSU and OTA Root Keeper, then decided not to root. I installed the Verizon update and boom, I'm rooted. Is that what you're saying is needed? I was surprised that root apps all work fine for me, I really didn't do anything but install those apks before I installed the camera update!
boardrx182 said:
So I installed PwnMyMoto, SuperSU and OTA Root Keeper, then decided not to root. I installed the Verizon update and boom, I'm rooted. Is that what you're saying is needed? I was surprised that root apps all work fine for me, I really didn't do anything but install those apks before I installed the camera update!
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As long as you had PwnMyMoto and never ran it / not rooted you were good to go. SuperSU could be installed before or after. I dont think OTA Root Keeper was needed at all. PwnMyMoto runs after a reboot so once you installed the OTA and rebooted it did its rooting magic automatically for you. Glad it all worked out for you
dymmeh said:
The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
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dymmeh said:
As long as you had PwnMyMoto and never ran it / not rooted you were good to go. SuperSU could be installed before or after. I dont think OTA Root Keeper was needed at all. PwnMyMoto runs after a reboot so once you installed the OTA and rebooted it did its rooting magic automatically for you. Glad it all worked out for you
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That's awesome, didn't realize that would happen automatically. I completely expected that I'd have to complete the entire root process steps that were outlined in an earlier post if I wanted root. Thanks for the reply.
will2live said:
Safestrap i know about and dont care about as i dont use it. As for moving forward with root I'll be surprised if that is the case but I wont disagree either. It is very possible they patch something to actually block root down the road. From my understanding tho currently the patch is blocking ppl to root the update not keeping root if the process is followed correctly. My guess is odds are it will be the same on the next OTA just like we had to do on the original Razr line to keep root until the bootloader was unlocked. However if the next OTA is 4.3 tha tcould all change for sure as anything is possible. Even so when that time comes I'll just unlock mine. I do have a Dev edition i just haven't unlocked with it being brand new and not wanting to void warranty yet to make sure hardware is cool but i do want root so i went the long route for now is all.
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people who have moto employee friends say they are moving to 4.3 next. Also, there may be a work around for you to keep root with the next release, but because people who aren't on dev phones that must be sure they can retain root would not have used this method (as it is a one chance type of method). so it is more likely that any new workarounds that people come up with will be for those that still have the ability to downgrade to original stock firmware. Also, SS is nice because it gives you the ability to run the phone just like you normally would but you can create complete backups of the device so you don't have to set everything up all over again if you screw something up with your phone. Even if you don't use SS for flashing roms it is still useful for back ups.
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people who have moto employee friends say they are moving to 4.3 next. Also, there may be a work around for you to keep root with the next release, but because people who aren't on dev phones that must be sure they can retain root would not have used this method (as it is a one chance type of method). so it is more likely that any new workarounds that people come up with will be for those that still have the ability to downgrade to original stock firmware. Also, SS is nice because it gives you the ability to run the phone just like you normally would but you can create complete backups of the device so you don't have to set everything up all over again if you screw something up with your phone. Even if you don't use SS for flashing roms it is still useful for back ups.
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I have my Moto contacts and yes they are moving to 4.3 next last i was told when I asked. As for downgrading stock software that isn't going to happen once updated as you can't go backwards. Moto devices have been that way going back to the original Droid Razr. Its few and far between where you could actually go backwards after an OTA. So unless you mean stock of the current build installed then ppl will have issues for sure. That said if ppl OTA and have root now but for whatever reason need to use the new fastboot file that was just posted they will in fact be SOL for gaining root. This is exactly why I refuse to buy consumer units from the carrier besides a few other reason I wont go into. My theory is simple we want to mess with device buy an unlockable one or be ready to suffer/wait for an exploit after an OTA hits.
As far as root moving forward what process you talking about tho? There is 2 ways to do it. The one posted right above your post in this thread, or the link I posted above. If the info in this thread was used yes there may be an issue because of the patch. However I will be very surprised to see ppl not be able to keep root if they updated using the process in the link I posted above. Besides having to fastboot the boot.img to recovery in that process its the same way original Droid Razr owners had to update to be able to keep root if there was no root process for the OTA being pushed. Moving forward my guess is there will be an issue once 4.3 hits tho. I'm not sure you will be able to use the old kernel from 4.2.2 to overwrite recovery and boot the 4.3 /system so you can restore root and pull the actual 4.3 boot.img so that can be used for the recovery highjack. Bottom line is only time will tell at this point as you never know what Moto/Google will do with the next update.
Agreed on SS for backups even if not flashing ROMs, but personally i just dont mess with my device enough to worry about a full back i guess. For apps/settings I just use MyBackup PRO. I've also have an app a buddy made that creates a full XML if i wanted to use it. In the old days I use to make alot of backups for ROM flashing when I used SS. Guess in my old age I've just got lazy and dont worry about it that much anymore. I really hose the device I'll just swap to one of my others til i get back to fixing the messed up one.
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I have my Moto contacts and yes they are moving to 4.3 next last i was told when I asked. As for downgrading stock software that isn't going to happen once updated as you can't go backwards. Moto devices have been that way going back to the original Droid Razr. Its few and far between where you could actually go backwards after an OTA. So unless you mean stock of the current build installed then ppl will have issues for sure. That said if ppl OTA and have root now but for whatever reason need to use the new fastboot file that was just posted they will in fact be SOL for gaining root. This is exactly why I refuse to buy consumer units from the carrier besides a few other reason I wont go into. My theory is simple we want to mess with device buy an unlockable one or be ready to suffer/wait for an exploit after an OTA hits.
As far as root moving forward what process you talking about tho? There is 2 ways to do it. The one posted right above your post in this thread, or the link I posted above. If the info in this thread was used yes there may be an issue because of the patch. However I will be very surprised to see ppl not be able to keep root if they updated using the process in the link I posted above. Besides having to fastboot the boot.img to recovery in that process its the same way original Droid Razr owners had to update to be able to keep root if there was no root process for the OTA being pushed. Moving forward my guess is there will be an issue once 4.3 hits tho. I'm not sure you will be able to use the old kernel from 4.2.2 to overwrite recovery and boot the 4.3 /system so you can restore root and pull the actual 4.3 boot.img so that can be used for the recovery highjack. Bottom line is only time will tell at this point as you never know what Moto/Google will do with the next update.
Agreed on SS for backups even if not flashing ROMs, but personally i just dont mess with my device enough to worry about a full back i guess. For apps/settings I just use MyBackup PRO. I've also have an app a buddy made that creates a full XML if i wanted to use it. In the old days I use to make alot of backups for ROM flashing when I used SS. Guess in my old age I've just got lazy and dont worry about it that much anymore. I really hose the device I'll just swap to one of my others til i get back to fixing the messed up one.
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3 ways to maintain root are the one in the thread, SS, and the one you posted. The one you posted actually allows you to flash the original stock firmware on the phone because the BL was never touched thus the security (keeping you from downgrading) was never installed. That was what I was referring to when I said those that must make sure they will retain root in the future would not have done the install pwnmymmoto without running then take ota then run pwnmymoto. As you said those people will be screwed if the next root requires you to flash back to original stock or use part of the pwnmymoto exploit that will only be accessible to those that got the OTA with SS or the link you posted. I don't toy with my phone as much as I used to especially this one, but bypasing exchange security is pretty essential for me. I don't want an encrypted device with mandatory pin. I never lose my phone and I would know within minutes of losing it if i ever did so I could shut it down remotely.
And I'm not sure about the new kernel situation either. This is why I wanted to make sure I could go back to original firmware as I see that being our best bet to retain root through 4.3, assuming jcase doesn't release another exploit for it to get some cash.
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3 ways to maintain root are the one in the thread, SS, and the one you posted. The one you posted actually allows you to flash the original stock firmware on the phone because the BL was never touched thus the security (keeping you from downgrading) was never installed. That was what I was referring to when I said those that must make sure they will retain root in the future would not have done the install pwnmymmoto without running then take ota then run pwnmymoto. As you said those people will be screwed if the next root requires you to flash back to original stock or use part of the pwnmymoto exploit that will only be accessible to those that got the OTA with SS or the link you posted. I don't toy with my phone as much as I used to especially this one, but bypasing exchange security is pretty essential for me. I don't want an encrypted device with mandatory pin. I never lose my phone and I would know within minutes of losing it if i ever did so I could shut it down remotely.
And I'm not sure about the new kernel situation either. This is why I wanted to make sure I could go back to original firmware as I see that being our best bet to retain root through 4.3, assuming jcase doesn't release another exploit for it to get some cash.
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Gotchya, makes total sense now what you are saying. I think there is just confusion at times when talking about root & OTA because of different ways to do it in a case like this device. Being a Moto guy for so long tho i'm use to all the BS they throw at us.....lol. That said that is why i posted the link I did. Imho it's a bad plan to update using the other method of installing pwnmymoto and not running it first before taking the OTA. Doing the process to protect root before updating is a much safer bet atm imo. Sure its a little more work but at the end of the day you dont have to be worried as much moving forward. Only concern I have still for doing it the longer way is if that process will work when they push out 4.3. It had alot of changes in it so lord only knows what will be up for keeping root. And really in my case its no concern but for all the folks with consumer version it is still a concern i think for the time being
Hello,
I'm buying much devices, test it and sell it.
But I like the zuk z1 very much (SOT is awesome)
So I search for a possibility to root the device,
Without going to the pc (adb method or smth) or just lazy like me.
Setup:
New z1 / 3AJ Firmware
Download kingroot Click me
Guide:
Download kingroot and open it,
Follow the instructions. U should be rooted.
Proof in the attachment, I hope it works for u all.
Bugs:
Some apps doesn't work. Better battery stats is one who don't work.
Edit:
BBS worked! , need two reboots to get it to work.
Maybe more, report if u try this method.
Just wait for CyanogenMod, no MS-Apps, no Bing, no 1 million Google Apps, Root just one click...
Hm.
U can freeze or de-install all that ****ty apps. ^^
Won't rooting stop the software updates which it clearly needs? That's what's stopping me atm
You can also get Supersume at the plays store to get rid of KingRoot, and put in CF Supersu.
Droid_Nut said:
You can also get Supersume at the plays store to get rid of KingRoot, and put in CF Supersu.
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Don't waste your money on Supersume, just follow these instructions to replace Kingroot with supersu:
http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html
Hope I could help
xaboren said:
Don't waste your money on Supersume, just follow these instructions to replace Kingroot with supersu:
http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html
Hope I could help
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I recall seeing that link a while back, but I could not find it, but I heard about Supersume, so I went that route instead.
I have ordered my Zuk Z1 on Thursday. I hope it will arrive until Tuesday. So I'm orientating already about how to root and so on. I don't see why you should root with Kingroot as you don't get updates from Cyanogen anymore when you have rooted the phone. It's a lot easier to unlock bootloader, flash TWRP and than flash SuperSu in my opinion, isn't it? Or do I miss something?
As far as I know, the problem is not Kingroot, but rather that in process of rooting the system partition is changed to read and write (r/w). Now every time the ota update script is running, they check if the that is the case and if so won't install the ota.
Just btw. I read in an other post here, that SuperSU replaces some files and that even if you should unroot, they still change them back, which also prohibits the OTA update script from running.
Which ever way you root and whatever recovery you have installed, you can still sideload the the updates, without loosing any of your data.
Download the "...ham-signed.zip" from this link
Here is the link to the post about the OTA files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z1/development/official-ota-update-links-ota-updating-t3226990
And give Breadcrust and Radii a thanks next time you see one of their posts
P.S.: I have no clue of any of these things/ I am in no way a developer, it's just what I have found out so far, what it comes down to...
root zuk z1
i bought a zuk z1 recently , i really want to root it coz i know of all the benefits and i even unlocked the bootloader.
but after that everything has been tough so i decided to root it through an app [though i know its temporary]i tried everything, kingoroot , kingroot. framaroot and what not but i havent gained root access.
i really want root now and i am desperate and begging at your feet to help me with a solution.
i hope you help me .:crying::crying:
zukz1
cyanoge mod os 12.1
joeljacob said:
i bought a zuk z1 recently , i really want to root it coz i know of all the benefits and i even unlocked the bootloader.
but after that everything has been tough so i decided to root it through an app [though i know its temporary]i tried everything, kingoroot , kingroot. framaroot and what not but i havent gained root access.
i really want root now and i am desperate and begging at your feet to help me with a solution.
i hope you help me .:crying::crying:
zukz1
cyanoge mod os 12.1
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Fastboot boot or flash recovey then flash SuperSU.zip
Enviado desde mi ZUK Z1 mediante Tapatalk
Not working
secXces_debaki said:
Hello,
I'm buying much devices, test it and sell it.
But I like the zuk z1 very much (SOT is awesome)
So I search for a possibility to root the device,
Without going to the pc (adb method or smth) or just lazy like me.
Setup:
New z1 / 3AJ Firmware
Download kingroot Click me
Guide:
Download kingroot and open it,
Follow the instructions. U should be rooted.
Proof in the attachment, I hope it works for u all.
Bugs:
Some apps doesn't work. Better battery stats is one who don't work.
Edit:
BBS worked! , need two reboots to get it to work.
Maybe more, report if u try this method.
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Hey , I just bought a zuk z1 and would like to root it with the application you have reffered (kingroot) but when I start kingroot it says that there is no way of rooting this model right now .
Can u please give any other app to root zuk z1 without PC or tell me if there is any system update if any ??.
I would really appreciate it ???
My name is Vishnu am from Thrissur my device is Lenovo zuk z1. I cannot root my phone
Please help me guys. My android version 5.1.1. ???
I want to be as close to stock as possible. Is it possible to flash (with ODIN) 100% stock rom then root with unikernel and remove all the t-mobile apps and knox etc..then go back to stock kernel and unroot? how would I unroot?
anaveragehuman said:
Why would you want to unroot?
I would flash CF-Auto-Root from ODIN, do what I need to do, then open the SuperSU app, scroll down, and click Full Unroot.
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I want to unroot because the phone is for my gf who knows nothing about technology, I don't want her to accidentally do anything to the phone if it's rooted lol. Does CF auto root work 100% for th S6 now? I always used unified kernel.
euklid said:
I want to unroot because the phone is for my gf who knows nothing about technology, I don't want her to accidentally do anything to the phone if it's rooted lol. Does CF auto root work 100% for th S6 now? I always used unified kernel.
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my wife's phone is rooted and she wouldn't even know it if she seen it.
Women who don't know about root which is most in that casee could care less . As long as theyre facebook and cam works...lol .The only time they could do harm is Going to the extent of booting into twrp in which they would not even know the first thing about flashing a zip .
Root her phone debloat it and it's done.
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euklid said:
I want to unroot because the phone is for my gf who knows nothing about technology, I don't want her to accidentally do anything to the phone if it's rooted lol. Does CF auto root work 100% for th S6 now? I always used unified kernel.
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5.0.2 was good for cf auto
Since 5.1.1 you cant downgrade and requires a rootable kernel and most people do it this way .
Just flash uni kernel v8 tar in Odin and reboot or flash twrp with Odin and then flash the unikenrel v8 zip before you reboot
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androidddaaron said:
my wife's phone is rooted and she wouldn't even know it if she seen it.
Women who don't know about root which is most in that casee could care less . As long as theyre facebook and cam works...lol .
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Exactly. +1
Don't do it, she'll hate you because stuff isn't going to work for her.
Just disable apps she doesn't want and leave stock with everything working.
Pp.
I'd be interested in this because I need to use an app for my work that checks for root and xposed framework. But I'd still like to use a ROM with enhancements like low battery camera etc and without all the useless apps.
MrManH said:
I'd be interested in this because I need to use an app for my work that checks for root and xposed framework. But I'd still like to use a ROM with enhancements like low battery camera etc and without all the useless apps.
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There are root cloaking apps which are meant to hide that you have root access. I cannot speak as to their effectiveness but they are out there.
I told my employer that I wasn't unrooting my phone and that if somebody needed something so urgently as to pull me away from my personal time when I work 9-5:30 m-f that I didn't rhink it too much to ask that said individual(s) contact me personally. They actually came to agree with me.
cwhiatt said:
There are root cloaking apps which are meant to hide that you have root access. I cannot speak as to their effectiveness but they are out there.
I told my employer that I wasn't unrooting my phone and that if somebody needed something so urgently as to pull me away from my personal time when I work 9-5:30 m-f that I didn't rhink it too much to ask that said individual(s) contact me personally. They actually came to agree with me.
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These don't work for the app I'm using, I looked into it. I have no use for root other than debloating the phone, and the built in features of custom roms (which I believe don't require root access).
MrManH said:
These don't work for the app I'm using, I looked into it. I have no use for root other than debloating the phone, and the built in features of custom roms (which I believe don't require root access).
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If you use systemless root, delete /su/xbin_bind and then follow this thread's instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/passing-safetynet-root-t3307659 nothing will be able to detect root without requesting it [which you can deny] and you're golden.