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[Q] Amount of RAM?

I thought in read in the specs before buying this phone that it had 512 MB of RAM.
When I check in my task manager it says I only have 326 MB of RAM total..
Don't tell me we (Canadians) have less ram than everyone else??

it is not just the Canada version
all SGS phones have 512 of RAM but only 326 available for end users the rest are used by the phone services

Isn't it a 2.1 thing?
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The kernel supports up to 326MB RAM. Newer versions support full 512MB.
I guess when Froyo is out officially we will have full 512MB support.

Its sounds to me this phone was made for frayo and 2.1 is just each what they had to go with the Iphone 4 would have gotten alot of sgs customers If the galaxy didn't release when it did
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phandroid.com has a couple of shots of a Leaked Samsung Fascinate Equipment Guide . The second photo is quite interesting, it says
Onboard memory : 512MB Flash/384MB RAM
What does that mean ?? We have 384MB of RAM after all ??
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PhoenixFx said:
phandroid.com has a couple of shots of a Leaked Samsung Fascinate Equipment Guide . The second photo is quite interesting, it says
Onboard memory : 512MB Flash/384MB RAM
What does that mean ?? We have 384MB of RAM after all ??
That's another phone.. Doesn't mean much.
Our official news/press release said we have 512MB, so we have 512MB. Don't get too worried. Samsung may have decided simply to put the RAM to better use for now (to speed up other areas). Apparently, the epic uses a RAM disk to speed things up, so it's possible ours has a 160MB Ramdisk too
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Ok that's it, I'm selling my phone now.
Well, let's hope Froyo shows us the light.

andrewluecke said:
That's another phone.. Doesn't mean much.
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I am relatively new to android, but from what I have read on the internet Fascinate is simply another Galaxy S variant customized to Verizon, just like Captivate, Vibrant and Epic 4G, isnt it ?? Why would they mess around with the core components just for one carrier ?
andrewluecke said:
Our official news/press release said we have 512MB, so we have 512MB. Don't get too worried. Samsung may have decided simply to put the RAM to better use for now (to speed up other areas). Apparently, the epic uses a RAM disk to speed things up, so it's possible ours has a 160MB Ramdisk too
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I would like to believe that too , My only concern is Gingerbread compatibility. I know even if we have 512MB Gingerbread is not guaranteed. But 384MB means a definite no go , right ??

PhoenixFx said:
I am relatively new to android, but from what I have read on the internet Fascinate is simply another Galaxy S variant customized to Verizon, just like Captivate, Vibrant and Epic 4G, isnt it ?? Why would they mess around with the core components just for one carrier ?
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They added a flash for one... It might be to save money for the carrier. But, this variant uses EVDO which I believe is US only, and its possible they need more space on the circuit board too, for other features they add. Either way, our phone is advertised as 512MB.
PhoenixFx said:
, My only concern is Gingerbread compatibility. I know even if we have 512MB Gingerbread is not guaranteed. But 384MB means a definite no go , right ??
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Nobody knows. In the rumour world, there is a crapload of BS. Don't believe anything you hear unless Google says it directly (and publicly). Remember, Kevin Rose told us he SAW the iPhone before it was released, and it had multiple batteries. And that guy constantly says rumors (the only ones I see him ever get right are obvious ones or ones which have proof already if you know where to look). If rumors by idiots like him consume the the internet in hours, its easy for anyone else to do the same.
To the best of my knowledge, Google has never stated the RAM required.. That being said, the epic 4g apparently uses a 160GB RAMdisk to speed it up. It's possible our phone does the same (which explains the memory gap). But I have seen nobody prove or disprove whether we have 512MB of RAM which can be accessed by the OS. All I know is that Samsung have stated we do and haven't retracted it..

@andrewluecke: Come oon man must you QOUTE a big picture and the write some words as a comment?? WTF we are not stupid we now that you answered to the post abowe!!!

omaga said:
@andrewluecke: Come oon man must you QOUTE a big picture and the write some words as a comment?? WTF we are not stupid we now that you answered to the post abowe!!!
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Don't blame me, I didn't even notice.. These forums should be thumbnailing the pics anyway

The photo is in line with previous speculation that the galaxy s has 384mb ddr(?) ram and 128mb onedram(fast ram dedicated to graphics??) / onenand(not actually ram??? 0_0) .. its all a bit confusing.
EDIT: found the relevant topics
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742244
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7642223
EDIT2: at first I was a little concerned, but after reading the other topics, I'm fairly reassured that the "ram issue" isn't really a bit issue at all, once compared to nexus one, desire etc.

SEMC seems to run a Sony Ericsson blog. And his post is mainly guesses, as with the others. Nobody has actually proven anything. However, the arguments against 512MB of ram are that 128MB is flash, and that Samsung don't know the difference between RAM and flash (which doesn't make too much sense, as they clearly differentiate between the two elsewhere).
Until proven otherwise, there is no reason to believe that we don't have 512MB of physical RAM.

oswade said:
EDIT2: at first I was a little concerned, but after reading the other topics, I'm fairly reassured that the "ram issue" isn't really a bit issue at all, once compared to nexus one, desire etc.
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I checked it as well, the Desire has 576 mb but it shows only 400 mb,
my old X10 has 384 but only shows 270 mb, it might be the kernel, but Ive read on a unreliable website that the rest was dedicated to the GPU just like a shared videocard on a Laptop...

Yeah, it's likely some is dedicated towards GPU and such, and it's likely to be OneDRAM. But, there doesn't seem to be any definitive proof..

iam sure its the kernel guys.. my old desire after flash mod kernel can get full 512mb and free memory up to 300mb using advanced task manager..

[kernel][gpl] seeking O2x testers for O2x kernel build

I recently built a CM7 O2x kernel from my G2x (cm-kernel based) source for a O2x user who now uses a Pre^3 and thus i am feedback less.
If someone who is not afraid of a possible non boot would test the kernel (test build is a 1.0GHz kernel aimed at saving battery) I could build O2x versions of my kernel on a more regular basis if feedback shows everything indeed works.
If the initial obstacle is cleared, i would build my 1.5+GHz version next.
http://goo.gl/CgbVD is ELP-O2x-10092011, so built 3 days ago.
Thanks in advance for any feedback.

here i am...
EDIT:Just tryed on latest miui and work well...

yes it works
yes everything works fine and can you make your 1.5GHz version
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It works fine
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Hi, great to see you here morfic. Finally . Your kernels for the NS were simply amazing....
I flashed it and so far everything works...
Looking forward to an e-penis kernel.

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Looking forward to an e-penis kernel.
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+1
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possibly a stupid question but this kernel can be applied to stock rom 10d?, my English is bad and may not say it to understand what kind of rom is

No it is ONLY for CM7 based roms!
BTW i'm getting killer benchmark scores, can't say so much about battery life though (too little time since i flashed it),
After the gym i had a SOD, but didn't run alogcat, so i'm not saying it is related to the kernel.
It's just meant as a piece of info....
Hope you build the 1.5 Ghz kernel soon...

Very smooth but lot of sudden deaths
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http://goo.gl/5C12v T15-O2x-14092011
we have a lot of half truths in G2x land, like that G2x can't run 216MHz minimum frequency without SoD.
With this kernel and the "ELP" one, 216MHz is no problem in G2x land.
it's possible the rumor is from applying O2x experiences to G2x early on.
In which case i could dig through the source and see if there is anything obvious that fixed it for G2x, but not O2x
(raise minimum frequency on either kernel if you do experience a SleepOfDeath/SoD)
Keep in mind this is a 1560MHz kernel i linked in this post, with the obvious differences in hardware, let me know if 1560MHz is not for O2x, many people love it on G2x, i can drop to 1540MHz or lower for stability (yes, that 20mhz difference might be all it needs)
1.6GHz is not stable, and i am not ready to further up the voltage as the voltage would go in the "are you serious to run this much voltage?" territory.
the more voltage you pump in, the more DTT will throttle the chip.
let the feedback roll in
and if you do not run cm7, let me know which kang or miui you run (kernel runs fine with whitehawkx's miui on G2x)
This kernel is not for any roms based on stock 2.3.3 gingerbread.

It works so far but why cant we modify the voltage though pimp my cpu or setcpu?

fry92 said:
It works so far but why cant we modify the voltage though pimp my cpu or setcpu?
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it's disabled for testing
for T15 i can enable it later
for ELP it will stay off, there is not really any headroom to go any lower than it is.
kernels are meant to be flashed and then you forget about them and go on and use your phone, this holds particularly true on the 1.0GHz undervolted version.
The T15 could benefit from finding the lowest stable settings on each individual phone.

I had another SOD. If it is related with the 216 Mhz min frequenzy, you should check the source of vorkkernel (that kernel runs perfectly at 216 Mhz, but just can not compete with your kernel elp performance wise).
Going to try your 1.5 Ghz...
Thx
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I tried the 1,5ghz and it seems to be stable for me. I ran a couple benchmarks and surfed a few websites and no crashes, lags or whatever.
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Hi, installed and works ok.
One problem: when the screen Goes off during à Call.
And you leave it off for About 20 seconds, then It isn't possible anymore to get the screen on again.
Only way to get the screen on again is to pull the battery.
To be sure it is THE kernel That causes this, i tried vorkkernel and the problem doesn't occur using The vorkkernel.
Btw: i only use basesband 502; THE only baseband that gives good Callas quality.

jan1000 said:
Hi, installed and works ok.
One problem: when the screen Goes off during à Call.
And you leave it off for About 20 seconds, then It isn't possible anymore to get the screen on again.
Only way to get the screen on again is to pull the battery.
To be sure it is THE kernel That causes this, i tried vorkkernel and the problem doesn't occur using The vorkkernel.
Btw: i only use basesband 502; THE only baseband that gives good Callas quality.
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Thanks, I look at proximity stuff.
Vork's kernel should perform very similarly on purely performance side of things.
We ended up sharing ideas.
So the other comment about it being smoother than vork is surprising and intriguing to be honest.
I enjoy building kernels, and since I had 'elp' built already wanted feedback, that comment I didn't expect.
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jan1000 said:
Hi, installed and works ok.
One problem: when the screen Goes off during à Call.
And you leave it off for About 20 seconds, then It isn't possible anymore to get the screen on again.
Only way to get the screen on again is to pull the battery.
To be sure it is THE kernel That causes this, i tried vorkkernel and the problem doesn't occur using The vorkkernel.
Btw: i only use basesband 502; THE only baseband that gives good Callas quality.
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Strange, I had the same screen blanking issue with CM7 Kang I built 2 days back. Doubt if it kernel related or common to both.

hackworks said:
Strange, I had the same screen blanking issue with CM7 Kang I built 2 days back. Doubt if it kernel related or common to both.
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Hm, that will make it harder to track.
For one I need to change my G2x / O2x to 'anykernel' ....before vork spanks me for not using it.
I pulled this ramdisk 4 days ago.
Doing this w/o phone at hand I'll be better of using 'anykernel' then.
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Hey, just wanted to report another SoD after i hung up on a call. Those are the only SoD i get, but i get it pretty much after every call.
Never happens on Vork's kernel or the stock cm7 kernel.
I am running the ELP kernel.
Hope I could help.

i'm testing the T15 on latest miui and seems all ok....just a note ,the battery consumption seems to much high....

Multitasking - Not enough RAM

Hi all. I picked up an Optimus 2X for cheap during a sale, and overall I'm quite satisfied with it. However, one problem is the lack of RAM which ironically makes multi-tasking less smooth than on older single-core phones like the HTC Desire.
The Optimus 2X has 384MB RAM available to the system, where as most high-end phones have 512MB and some even 1GB. Even the old Nexus One had 512MB. After startup with Android 2.3, only about 150MB is available, which quickly decreases to ~100MB.
I know the whole Free RAM = Wasted RAM argument, but this has real-world implications with this phone.
For example, if you open the web browser and then use some other applications for a while and switch back, the page is not longer in memory but has to be reloaded. It's the same with other apps, they quickly get kicked out of RAM when you run other apps, forcing them to reload.
How does CM7 compare in terms of RAM usage? I'm guessing the LG bundled apps and background tasks use up quite a bit of RAM?

that remaining ram id because of the tegra gpu, 128mb is allocated I think.. about ram management, I'm using miui and downloaded sd data from a game then browsed the forums via browser then switched back to the download and its still intact, returned to the browser and all tabs still ok,
i think most stock based roms behave the same as yours
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Advice regarding ram availaibilty and buying new device
Guys i need your advice since it is slightly related to current topic. So , here it is
i am going to buy a phone tomorrow
I was thinking of Optimus 2x.
I am coming from Nokia S60v5 and u can imagine the Ram problems there so i am very sensitive to the issue of less ram availaible.
1) how much free ram does O2x offer on a)stock 2.3 b) CM7 ?
2) I have the Option of Buying either O2x ,Oblack or Galaxy Sl(indian version of galaxy s) as price of all 3 are similar , which one would you choose, doesn't Oblack offer more free RAM than O2x ?
3) A little research tells me that nvidia havnt released their drivers, and god knows when LG will come out with ICS ,just wanted to know are there any chances/news or assurances of CM9 supporting O2x coz if chances are bleak wudn't i be better off with Oblack?

1.b) mine is up for about 40 hours and i did lots of mt, and i got 169mb free.
i dont see a problem with the ram size, its all super smooth here. and to my knowledge most people that know nothing about ram think more=faster which is not the case...
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grognaz said:
1.b) mine is up for about 40 hours and i did lots of mt, and i got 169mb free.
i dont see a problem with the ram size, its all super smooth here. and to my knowledge most people that know nothing about ram think more=faster which is not the case...
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I'm no expert but having used computers since the VIC 20, I don't think I know "nothing" about RAM. That machine had 3.5KB of RAM which was fine back then, but there's a reason modern devices have more RAM than that. More *is* better in many cases.
My HTC Desire starts of with about 260MB free out of 576MB total, where as the Optimus 2X starts with ~180MB free (reflecting the 128MB that gets allocated by the Tegra2 GPU). This means less RAM available for applications you launch and want to keep in RAM. It's *mostly* "super smooth" here too, but it's annoying when e.g. the web browser or Google Earth gets kicked out of RAM and have to reload, since this adds several seconds when switching tasks. Applications themselves are super responsive, it's only when task-switching between several large applications that this happens.
droweed said:
that remaining ram id because of the tegra gpu, 128mb is allocated I think.. about ram management, I'm using miui and downloaded sd data from a game then browsed the forums via browser then switched back to the download and its still intact, returned to the browser and all tabs still ok,
i think most stock based roms behave the same as yours
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I guess I'll try some third party ROMs and see how they behave. LG do bundle a lot of useless stuff with the stock ROM that you can't stop from starting automatically by default.
prabhjitsinghwalia said:
Guys i need your advice since it is slightly related to current topic. So , here it is
i am going to buy a phone tomorrow
I was thinking of Optimus 2x.
I am coming from Nokia S60v5 and u can imagine the Ram problems there so i am very sensitive to the issue of less ram availaible.
1) how much free ram does O2x offer on a)stock 2.3 b) CM7 ?
2) I have the Option of Buying either O2x ,Oblack or Galaxy Sl(indian version of galaxy s) as price of all 3 are similar , which one would you choose, doesn't Oblack offer more free RAM than O2x ?
3) A little research tells me that nvidia havnt released their drivers, and god knows when LG will come out with ICS ,just wanted to know are there any chances/news or assurances of CM9 supporting O2x coz if chances are bleak wudn't i be better off with Oblack?
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The Optimus 2X is not a bad phone at all. The display and build quality are very nice, the size is just right. Battery life is also quite good (for an Android phone, which still means you have to charge it every night). It's the only dual-core phone out of the ones on your list, which puts it in the same league as the Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Nexus in many ways.
I'm sure we'll get ICS eventually but it might be a longer wait than for something like the Nexus S. You'd better be prepared to root and switch to a different ROM however. Considering how long it took LG to release their version of Android 2.3 I wouldn't count on them releasing anything in 2012, if at all.
I have 187MB of RAM free after a clean boot with stock 2.3 (Version 20L), if I go directly to Programs and look at the amount of free RAM under the Running tab.

Also another thing that's bugging me off is
-O2x, i have heard reboots itself, now the very reason why i am buying a new phone is that my Nokia phone kept rebooting even when the battery was full, whether on stock OS or custom Firmware.That pissed me off.
-Does this issue still exists in newer Handsets after updating to 2.3 , becoz if it does wouldn't i be better off buying Lg Optimus black because i am stretching my budget just to accommodate the dual core of O2x and if after spending such a large amt it still reboots , i would be heartbroken
waiting for some helpful replies as i will be buying one of Oblack or O2x yesterday itself

I just installed CM7.1 and I'm happy to report that it now has 246MB of free RAM after a clean boot. Keep in mind that this is a completely clean install, where as my stock installation had a couple of widgets and notification apps going. But there's still a significant difference.
So part of the problem is that the LG launcher and customizations are not very optimized and waste a lot of RAM. Of course, the phone is still missing 128MB RAM when compared to other similar phones, but with a less bloated ROM, it's less of a problem. Let's hope the RAM requirements of ICS won't be too much higher.
Spontaneous reboots can be caused by many things. Android will reboot if an application hangs so completely that the phone ignores all input. It could also be a hardware problem such as overheating or low voltage. My O2X has never rebooted on its own so far. My HTC Desire started doing this when using the 3G radio a lot, likely due to overheating. That's why I switched to the O2X. Keep in mind that everything is pretty much "on the edge" with these devices that pack so much power into a small package. Avoid warming the device up in your jeans pocket (use an outer pocket of your jacket if possible) or using it heavily while its charging.

i didnt refer it to you when i was writing about the ram stuff... anyways, if you need more ram there is a kernel which can free i think up to 96mb from the gpu or so. so if you dont play games or recored hd then you might give it a try. kernel is called vorks stepchild or something like that and can be found in dev section. sorry cant copy links from xda app
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Just a quick mention for the Nexus S here, that has the exact same RAM configuration, and Google are putting out ICS for it, so it can't be a huge problem.

JimmiG said:
How does CM7 compare in terms of RAM usage? I'm guessing the LG bundled apps and background tasks use up quite a bit of RAM?
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It's crazy, stock rom Opera wouldn't even background after 2 seconds.. With CM7 I have RAM compression on 20% or something and Opera stays open for hours, it's great. There are kernels which have 32-128MB RAM hacks too that steal back from the GPU section. IronKrnl comes to mind.
There are some implications, 32MB loses reboot (which is nothing), 64MB+ gets dodgier.
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i dont see a problem with the ram size, its all super smooth here. and to my knowledge most people that know nothing about ram think more=faster which is not the case...
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You know nothing about RAM if you believe that statement then... Tell me, what about the operating system panicing to closs apps to free RAM, and falling on it's ass doing so is faster?

Use scripts like Supercharger, or Juwe ram script modified by Vadonka (search threads in dev section). Or System Tuner where you can easily modify freemem parameters.

try installing CM 7.2.0 plus ironkrnL ramhack here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359307
I recommended the 64mb hack ver.
the newest built already stable enough for daily use.
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I'm using Juwe11's Ram Manager Pro in market (paid app). There is a free version also.

Brought my O2x !
Thanks for your advice guys, bought my O2x today , will be updating to stock 2.3 today.
a) any pre update advice ?
b) i dont intend to use stock rom for long, and as i am new to android and my previous nokia only taught me about making Custom Firmwares , So plz tell me which modded 2.3 should i use ? what is this i am reading about that the kernel is from someone else ? rom from some other Mod ? and also this baseband stuff ?

a) Try not to use it. The froyo ROMs are crap and will probably give you a poor opinion of the phone and/or AIDs
b) CyanogenMod, IMO

info about cm in general
i understand Cyanogen mod is an after market firmware,so
a) is it a custom rom or does it use the vendor's phone's rom ?
b) i understand we can also change kernel's , so does CM modifies the kernel ?

prabhjitsinghwalia said:
Thanks for your advice guys, bought my O2x today , will be updating to stock 2.3 today.
a) any pre update advice ?
b) i dont intend to use stock rom for long, and as i am new to android and my previous nokia only taught me about making Custom Firmwares , So plz tell me which modded 2.3 should i use ? what is this i am reading about that the kernel is from someone else ? rom from some other Mod ? and also this baseband stuff ?
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a. do not update to official 2.3. rooting it is pain in the ass. rooting froyo is easy. and official 2.3 is still sakk ess.
b. CM7 is your answer.
prabhjitsinghwalia said:
i understand Cyanogen mod is an after market firmware,so
a) is it a custom rom or does it use the vendor's phone's rom ?
b) i understand we can also change kernel's , so does CM modifies the kernel ?
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a. custom rom. you can google it.
b. cm use its own kernel. plus there are 3rd party kernel to optimize it further.

Questions
a) How will rooting help me?
b) i suppose i cant downgrade to 2.2 from 2.3 , right?
c) i can still use cm7 after updating to froyo right?

Yeah you'll be able to switch back and forth stock ROMs via Smartflash or KDZ, and you will be able to use CM no matter what version you have installed.

^now thats quiet helpful , just to be sure i am updating to 2.3 using lg's official crap whatever that is coz thats taking years to check/buffer whatever. or do u ppl use KDZ?

[Q] I Find My Galaxy Note n7000 slower than my Galaxy S2 i9100

Hi Guys!
I had SGS2 i9100 for 3months,i recently bought n7000 Galaxy Note as i was inspired by my SGS2
But i am quite disappointed as both phone have same Exynos Chipset and Note is Higher Clocked, still i find most of transitions very smooth on SGS2 then newly bought unrooted 2day used Galaxy Note,i dont get it why
By Transitions in mean pinch out on home screen,and pinch out in main menu,while i was scrolling in android market,i dont like it at all,
When check taskmanager>Clear RAM 400+ memory is used while when i bought my SGS2 it hardly had 200+ used memory when barely apps were installed on it
You Guys have any idea about it? or is it the same with all G-Note's or the HD res on Ginger Bread Makes it slower ?

Removing all the crapware from samsung made my note much faster. I had a s2 before and they give me the impression that they are equally fast.
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Both of My Phones are on Stock Rom ,did removing bloatware made transitions smoother?

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bartzeeland said:
Removing all the crapware from samsung made my note much faster. I had a s2 before and they give me the impression that they are equally fast.
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Do you remember what you removed?

The processor in the note has to push more pixels than the processor in the SGSII as well.
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I do have the same problem, but after installing custom ICS on note. everything went bettersmooth like SG2.
I think its the resolution issue on GB

I must admit when I bought my Note, it is pretty much laggy as compared to my previous S2..
I made a research on this before I actually purchase my unit and I was fully prepared on what I might get after my purchase.
Coming from the S2 and to the Note.. Yes, you can really discern and compare the UI performance of the two devices.. But!
Here's the cache.. 'STOCK'... Something that you might need to ponder....
When I flashed my Note to a new custom ROM... (and bit of tweaks here and there)
Hell yeah, My Note's UI smoothness was comparable if not exceeded already the UI buttery flow of my S2...
So, I guess you may need to consider that option, if it pains on your part to see your Note lags behind your S2....
Just my two cents......

The screen resolution of GNote is much higher than SII.
I can see this big difference especially on my galaxy tab 7.7

kelvin fong said:
The screen resolution of GNote is much higher than SII.
I can see this big difference especially on my galaxy tab 7.7
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Exactly. Even though the CPU of the Note is slightly faster than the SG2's CPU, it doesn't compensate the difference in resolution, so finally the Note is somewhat slower...

This resolution thing is absolutely ridicolous.
Iphone 4 and Iphone 4s have more resolution then a sgs2 and they are smooth.
My Asus EEEpad Transformer was slow as hell and now with Ics Update it flies.
So I personally think that Gnote is slow and laggy only because a bad software optimization and not for a lack of hardware specs.
Just my 2 cents.

IPhone 4s doesn't have a higher resolution than gnote, but does have a higher dpi. Flashing a custom rom can surely improve the smoothness.
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inflamess said:
I do have the same problem, but after installing custom ICS on note. everything went bettersmooth like SG2.
I think its the resolution issue on GB
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Buddy you are root but which Custom ICS you are suggesting me Cyanogen?
actually i am big time Touchwiz fan Just because of my S2 any idea when is official ICS coming out April? any other suggestions?
Thank You Every One so so Much for replies
i though the Same that Ginger Bread Might be issue

inflamess said:
I do have the same problem, but after installing custom ICS on note. everything went bettersmooth like SG2.
I think its the resolution issue on GB
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Buddy Which Custom Rom ?,i am a touchwiz user any suggestions?
Thanks All
can someone tell me why hitting thanks button or reply or quote refreshes the page on IE9 :'(

letters_to_cleo said:
I must admit when I bought my Note, it is pretty much laggy as compared to my previous S2..
I made a research on this before I actually purchase my unit and I was fully prepared on what I might get after my purchase.
Coming from the S2 and to the Note.. Yes, you can really discern and compare the UI performance of the two devices.. But!
Here's the cache.. 'STOCK'... Something that you might need to ponder....
When I flashed my Note to a new custom ROM... (and bit of tweaks here and there)
Hell yeah, My Note's UI smoothness was comparable if not exceeded already the UI buttery flow of my S2...
So, I guess you may need to consider that option, if it pains on your part to see your Note lags behind your S2....
Just my two cents......
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Which Custom Rom you Used?
S2 was my First Android phone since is Used balckberry OS and iOS and Seriously S2 made full time Android user,even i saw other devices with friends like arc s and so even i liked em but they had lags,i though Note would be better but now i think only S2 was good for me
I love galaxy note,better shape larger display but laggy :'(

mcreego said:
This resolution thing is absolutely ridicolous.
Iphone 4 and Iphone 4s have more resolution then a sgs2 and they are smooth.
My Asus EEEpad Transformer was slow as hell and now with Ics Update it flies.
So I personally think that Gnote is slow and laggy only because a bad software optimization and not for a lack of hardware specs.
Just my 2 cents.
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Well You're Right Pal about 4s & 4, But you are forgeting something,iOS is made by Apple just for iPhone,iPad etc but Android is made by Google for many of Device's,so Apple has only one flagship device a year with its own OS so they build that OS for its hardware,but Android has lots of Devices only Nexus Series (Google Phones) have the OS developed for them so its clear true support for HD res came with Galaxy Nexus on Android i hope ICS is Fix for This :'(

kelvin fong said:
IPhone 4s doesn't have a higher resolution than gnote, but does have a higher dpi. Flashing a custom rom can surely improve the smoothness.
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Yup True! which rom are you suggesting? i love stock roms
Once again thank you everyone

crossmedia said:
Which Custom Rom you Used?
S2 was my First Android phone since is Used balckberry OS and iOS and Seriously S2 made full time Android user,even i saw other devices with friends like arc s and so even i liked em but they had lags,i though Note would be better but now i think only S2 was good for me
I love galaxy note,better shape larger display but laggy :'(
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never under estimate your Galaxy Note... as they say, It is the big brother of the S2... It can do things more than what your S2 can do.. (specifically by using it as digitized tablet)
Anyway.. im using CheckRom, I don't know if that matters or not. I have some tweaks as well that I personally made and installed and made my Note much more fluid in terms of UI performance and battery management..
Cheers

I suggest rocket rom v19_1 because it supports stock look. Actually I don't like the modification made in the latest version of rocket rom.
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[KERNELS] Best of the best | .35 | for Newbie | Explanations Guides and Suggestions

This will guide you and teach you too ONLY if you read well rather than just pressing download links!
Now that we had TONS of kernels out there, It doesn't means NEWER = BETTER.
Here you will find useful links to guide on choosing which kernels fits your needs.
This is pointing out and will be guide for those people who dont know what is a KERNEL?
This thread is for those who doesn't know wtf does a kernel is, for those gamers for those on stock roms for those who wants performance for those wants promising benchmark scores etc..
KERNEL? what is it?
In computing, the kernel (from German Kern, nucleus, core) is the main component of most computer operating systems; it is a bridge between applications and the actual data processing done at the hardware level. The kernel's responsibilities include managing the system's resources (the communication between hardware and software components). Usually as a basic component of an operating system, a kernel can provide the lowest-level abstraction layer for the resources (especially processors and I/O devices) that application software must control to perform its function. It typically makes these facilities available to application processes through inter-process communication mechanisms and system calls.
Source|for more info click here
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This shown picture above gives you the basic idea what does a kernel is and
what depends on it.
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Now that you know what a kernel does, its time to know what VSYNC (Vertical Synchronization) is?
Vertical Synchronization, also called Vertical Sync, or simply VSync for short, was primarily required because of the physical limitations of CRT monitors as discussed in the Refresh Rate section. A CRT monitor has to constantly light up the phosphors on the screen many times per second to maintain an image, and can only do this a certain number of times per second based on how fast the electron gun in the monitor can move. Each time it has to redraw the entire screen again, it moves the electron gun inside the monitor from the bottom of the screen to point to the top left of the screen, ready to 'repaint' all the lines on the screen from top left to bottom right, and back again for the next refresh. The period during which the electron gun moves to the top of the screen for a new refresh is called the Vertical Blanking Interval (VBI).
Enabling VSync tells your graphics card to synchronize its actions with your monitor. That means the graphics card is only allowed to swap its frame buffer and send a new frame to the monitor when the monitor says it is ready to repaint a new screen - i.e. during the VBI. Your graphics card and monitor do not have to be in sync; they can still operate properly when VSync is disabled, however when VSync is disabled, you can experience a phenomenon called Tearing in periods when your graphics card and monitor go out of sync, precisely because the graphics card and monitor are acting without regard for each other's limitations.
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For further explanation about VSYNC, redirect here: source
Topic content:
▷Vsync on and off difference
▷FPS and vsync explanation
▷Tearing
▷Advantage and disadvantages
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Now base on my experience, this are the .35 kernels (never had tried .32 so I cant point out which one is good for me) I personally found out useful and those gave me good experience on stock and custom roms.
NOTE: it doesn't means all of this are BUG free!
For stock rom 2.3 | .35 kernel
Vsync off
The smoothest one i found for stock lg rom|voff gives smoother ui transitions and scrolling
Rome-v1.3.3-cfs-vsync-off by zack here
Vsync on
Best one i tried for von on stock rom
paolo's OC kernel V3 here
you'll find the thread here but most of the links are dead
For custom roms, all cm7 based rom (miui, lewa.etc) and themed roms |.35
Vsync on
best ones i tried that gave me performance and really good experience even on games!
Ta-gb-kernel-v1.1 by thachtunganh: here
Roq kernel-IX by Roqu3: here
Roq kernels (for those who doesnt even give effort to search but rather spam and ask anywhere) here! Newer doesn't mean better
Vsync off
for benchmark HOGS and for games who need further more frames for HQ games
PP kernel v1.7 ta-gb 1.2 based, originaly by thachtunganh moded by trettet here (the best for games so far)
Candied kernels by DJnoXD here (voff with variety of touch fixes also good for heavy games but lesser benchmark scores compared from PP kernel v1.7)

Nice tutorial there
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sorry ahead about this massage:
listen my english is pretty bad and to read all of this will take me an hour or even more so can you plz recoomend me on the best rom for preformence ? i dont give a damn about battery i just want the launcher transition will be smooth and games to work as best as can.. i dont car even if phone drain battert in 6-7 hours

Great!
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True ta gb 1.1 is best for me.....bugfree.......tried so many kernels....
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I'd be curious to know about ics kernels..I'm currently using redpill and stay with stock kernel but the developer has made a suggestion of not overclocking,but nice tutorial..this should be a sticky
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really helpful for clearing out the basics of kernel..!! Thanks mate..!!

great share!

people can smoeone plz explain which is the bast rom of gaming?( just for gaming i dont care of any thing else )

dokvader114 said:
people can smoeone plz explain which is the bast rom of gaming?( just for gaming i dont care of any thing else )
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GTR.

A good rom like CM and a good kernel as in my suggestions will give you good game experience, as of now I'am on gsnap rom simply because its CM but I like the way its very lightweight.

i confused on my question i meant which kernel is the best for gaming? im curnttly using GTR-V7.8 kernel roq+paolo touch fix

dokvader114 said:
i confused on my question i meant which kernel is the best for gaming? im curnttly using GTR-V7.8 kernel roq+paolo touch fix
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That's great for gaming but u might wanna use PP Kernel by trette that is the best for gaming
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Or buy a new phone
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lol cant affored a new phone..my perent promised me an iphone 5 but i must wait till it get to israel till then im still using my suckish phone which my suchish friend laugh at
and ty for recommending
and plz pp kernel link ? in google i found just pp kernel but not PP Kernel by trette

dokvader114 said:
lol cant affored a new phone..my perent promised me an iphone 5 but i must wait till it get to israel till then im still using my suckish phone which my suchish friend laugh at
and ty for recommending
and plz pp kernel link ? in google i found just pp kernel but not PP Kernel by trette
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link

dokvader114 said:
lol cant affored a new phone..my perent promised me an iphone 5 but i must wait till it get to israel till then im still using my suckish phone which my suchish friend laugh at
and ty for recommending
and plz pp kernel link ? in google i found just pp kernel but not PP Kernel by trette
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PP kernel 1.7 will give you performance but i dont suggest it on stock cm, may be on GTR but on stock it would only make scrolling sluggish because of screen tearing.

recreation012 said:
PP kernel 1.7 will give you performance but i dont suggest it on stock cm, may be on GTR but on stock it would only make scrolling sluggish because of screen tearing.
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so what do you reccomend on GTR ( WHICH KERNEL?)

> agreed with roq IX and ta-gb 1.1:good:

I have a question I'm on aokp dynamite's ics and the performance is awesome. but some games (not necessary heavy weight) don't start. in somewhere I read that changing the kernel would help. so is anybody here in ics using custom kernels?