I was skimming through your forums (I am a VZW Moto X 2014 owner) and I was considering an upgrade to the next Nexus if it comes to Verizon. Has Verizon thrown any road blocks in the way of the Nexus 6 as far as unlocking it? Or is it as simple as every other Nexus by just going into fastboot and oem unlock?
I'd like to go back to a Nexus, but I don't want to waste my time if its just as locked down as any other phone.
Better even than that. Not only is verizon no longer strong enough to resist the goog... they are not *legally* allowed to prevent you from registering your Nexus (purchased from goog direct) on their network.
Verizon sells the Nexus 6, 32gb and 64gb models, but only in Midnight Blue. You can buy one from Motorola or Google Play in Cloud White with the same size options (or blue if you don't want VZW to get the money). And if you buy from Moto/GP, it won't be branded with VZW logos, and has ZERO VZW apps on it. None were installed automatically. Just 100% clean stock Lollipop.
I bought mine on Google Play a few weeks ago. Opened the box, took all the OTAs (all the way to 5.1.1 LMY47Z), unlocked the bootloader, rooted and put in my VZW SIM (from my Moto X 2013). Worked fine until I had to RMA for the back cover coming off. They sent me a new device and it works like a champ. I did the exact same thing when the new device arrived, no issues.
My dad also bought a Nexus 6 and did not unlock or root. He just popped in his SIM, took a few updates and went on his way.
Zero issues on VZW with the N6.
Same here. None VZ bought Nexus 6 on VZ. Zero issues and I'm even running 5.1.1
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So I have never purchased a Google play version of a phone before so I am wondering something.
I always root and install ROMs on my phones and I have only had non-nexus devices and know that installing a sprint ROM on a Verizon phone makes it not work correctly... So if I buy a Google play version can I install Verizon ROMs since I'm on the Verizon network?
Both are the same. Roms work on all networks.
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So the only difference is that I will have different firmware files to use if I bootloop and such?
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So the only difference is that I will have different firmware files to use if I bootloop and such?
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No difference. All Google nexus 6 factory images can be flashed on any nexus 6. They are all identical.
Only thing with Verizon is that they will not add any other nexus 6 to their system. It will work, but you will see that you are using a non vzw device when you log into your account
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So I have never purchased a Google play version of a phone before so I am wondering something.
I always root and install ROMs on my phones and I have only had non-nexus devices and know that installing a sprint ROM on a Verizon phone makes it not work correctly... So if I buy a Google play version can I install Verizon ROMs since I'm on the Verizon network?
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I bought mine from Motorola so that I could get the Motocare policy. The issues with buying a non-Verizon branded N6 are the following:
1) Verizon reps won't be able to activate a Verizon nano SIM in the device - so you would need to use an already activated SIM card to get the device active on your line - this can be done by activating a nano SIM in a Verizon branded phone that uses a nano SIM or by cutting down an existing micro SIM card;
2) If you deal with Verizon instead of Google or Motorola for warranty issues, you are going to get a Verizon branded 32GB Midnight Blue N6 as a replacement regardless of whether or not you have the light grey or the 64GB N6 - so IMO, dealing with Verizon is not an option;
3) Asurion insurance likely won't replace your device with a non-Verizon branded N6 should you need to use insurance coverage so again, you would be getting a 32GB Midnight Blue Verizon N6 as a replacement regardless of what device you actually have on the line if you pay for Asurion insurance;
4) Asurion insurance may not cover your device at all since your line will just show Non-Verizon Device on it - hence another the reason I bought from Motorola directly and bought the MotoCare policy;
5) To get HD Voice/Advance Calling/VoLTE active on your line, you would need to first put a Verizon branded device that is VoLTE eligible on your line to add it as a feature or search the forum for other ideas on how to do it; and
6) People with More Everything plans and the month-to-month or Edge discount on their lines are having trouble getting the discount to stick even after the reps add it to their lines.
I had a Moto X on my line, which uses a nano SIM card so I had no issues with #1. I bought the MotoCare policy so I have eliminated issues #2-#4 for myself. I used an iP6 to get VoLTE added to my line and have a legacy nationwide plan so issues #5 and #6 aren't problems for me.
I haven't yet flashed to 5.1 so I can't test the VoLTE yet but others say it works and I will do that soon and report back my results.
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So I have never purchased a Google play version of a phone before so I am wondering something.
I always root and install ROMs on my phones and I have only had non-nexus devices and know that installing a sprint ROM on a Verizon phone makes it not work correctly... So if I buy a Google play version can I install Verizon ROMs since I'm on the Verizon network?
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There's no "carrier" version, there's a nexus 6 made by motorola, endorsed by Google, that's it, your particular carrier may sell said device on their network, but it's not their device or their variant, there are two variants, a US model and an international model and even then, there's literally only a band availability difference. All nexi are the same phone not matter who's providing the service for it
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Awesome I appreciate all the replies and I have the info I needed. Thanks for being educational.
I bought a Nexus 6 that was unlocked on swappa. A potential buyer asked if it was from Google Or Motorola and the buyer wasn't sure since they were the original buyer. I ended up buying the phone and when I received it I found out it is an AT&T Nexus 6. It has been unlocked and works on Verizon and AT&T. Will I get updates like a Motorola or Google Nexus 6 would or will it be up to the carrier to release those updates? Is there anything else I may miss out on?
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The AT&T version has a logo on back and an AT&T splash screen during boot and a boot " tune". That's it. No other difference.
The OTA is pushed by Google. And the version you receive is determined by the SIM card in your phone.
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I bought a Nexus 6 that was unlocked on swappa. A potential buyer asked if it was from Google Or Motorola and the buyer wasn't sure since they were the original buyer. I ended up buying the phone and when I received it I found out it is an AT&T Nexus 6. It has been unlocked and works on Verizon and AT&T. Will I get updates like a Motorola or Google Nexus 6 would or will it be up to the carrier to release those updates? Is there anything else I may miss out on?
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They are all the same phone. Only difference is XT1100 vs XT1103 and that is international or domestic. Updates are pushed by Google and ONLY Google. The phone is manufactured by Motorola and sold by Motorola, Google, and the carriers.
So, I just got this Moto X not an hour ago that's a "replacement exchange" for the Atrix HD that bricked with Motorola's last update from 2014. Took 2+ months of online chats, phone calls, etc to get them to at least do something to alleviate the situation caused by their own update. But enough of that...
What they sent me is an apparently brand new never ever used (not even refurbished) white Moto X with a label on the box dated Sept 25 2013 (verified the bar codes upon booting it the first time). It's running Android 4.2.2 and it appears to have a bootloader of 30.70 (yes, thirty dot seventy) so, obviously I grabbed Sunshine to see if it would work and it passed all the tests with flying colors as expected but I'm not sure I want to go that far.
The issue for me is that it's one of those dreaded scumbucket Moto X models that has the IMEI number starting with 35321 which means it can't or won't be carrier/SIM unlockable by anyone, not AT&T and certainly not Motorola.
Since that would mean it's locked down with AT&T and I won't use AT&T - diehard fan of T-Mobile for years now with that still awesome $30/month 5GB plan - I'm wondering what I should do with this thing.
I wouldn't suspect that having the full capabilities of accessing this device will matter with respect to it remaining carrier locked, i.e. even with a properly unlocked bootloader and s/off if I were to muck around with the CID/MID stuff that still wouldn't help me like if I converted it to the "Developer Edition" or even the XT1053, the T-Mobile variant, it'll still be carrier locked to AT&T forever.
If I'm wrong there I'm hoping that someone reading this will chime in about it but, for the moment it seems I've got a brand new Moto X that I can't even use, sadly. Thinking about putting it on craigslist for $125 and just moving on, I'm kinda sick of Motorola's crap over the years. Was an Atrix 4G owner and waited on ICS which they promised but never delivered, owned a Photon and they promised ICS and never delivered, and so on.
I think I'm going to start saving up for the LG G4 which appears - at least from the currently available info - to be the wicked evil cool smartphone I've been waiting on for years now...
I'm wondering, if any of you were in the same situation, what would you do with this somewhat rarity in the Moto X world nowadays, a pristine untouched 4.2.2 device with an original bootloader just waiting for possibilities?
Keep it, sell it... I wonder.
Auction it on eBay and post the link here
Not a big fan of auctions, and since I don't do them with any regularity if I did that even if I made some money from it PayPal would make me wait a month to claim the funds, unfortunately.
It's listed on craigslist for $125 and will more than likely disappear in the next few hours, who knows.
I have XT1053 and it is broken. I use it on AT&T and LTE support is important. It was on 4.2.2 and I never upgraded to 4.4 as it seemed all later versions just brought different problems and I never needed any new features. I haven't followed 5.1 too much but if it was any good there would not be threads here about downgrading, right?
My options are (I need to do something fast because I leave for vacation in Europe at the end of the month and would like to use phone there. I don't want anything larger than 5"):
1) Send it to Motorola and for $100 they will fix it. Probably just replace with refurb. But what version of Android will it come with? Does anyone know?
2) Get 2014 Moto X, but what version? It seems "Pure Edition" (XT1095) didn't support AT& LTE bands out of the box but they were upgraded later and that enabled it. Yet I found posts that AT&T IMEI database apparently doesn't list XT1095 as having these bands and phone doesn't connect to LTE on AT&T. One has to proved IMEI from another phone. My AT&T SIM is now associated with 1053, so maybe I would be OK?
has Lollipop upgrade on 2014 Moto X been as bad as it was on 2013?
3) Get XT1097 (AT&T version of Moto X 2014) - I don't like the fact that it only comes with 16GB of storage. Also, can it be rooted/bootloader/SIM unlocked?
4) Get some other phone and here I just don't know what to consider in 5" size because I haven't been following Android phones recently.
Feedback and answers appreciated.
You could wait for the new nexus.
Apparently a 5 inch nexus will be released.
Otherwise, you don't really have many options for 5 inch phone.
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So, I'm finally moving away from the note series after being tired of not have roots. I started looking at N6 which i have questions about before I buy.
My first question is can you root and unlock bootloader on current firmware. I've also read where Verizon is giving N6 user a hard time on activation or this true or can I just take my phone into verizon and get a nano sims card. If I can't I think I can always cut my current sims into a nano.
And will this phone work on Verizon i believe the US carriers are XT1103 correct.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262042617536?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Beware of used N6 unless previous owner prepared it for sale. You can get it new for $349 at Best Buy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-properly-prepare-nexus-6-resale-t3104504
Yes, you can root unlock and flash to your hearts content. Yes, it will work on VZ. Can't answer about sim card.
Easiest way get a vzw version I have one and its unlocked just like all the rest if your worried that way you know they will activate it if you don't get one from then they won't give you any support
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I'm on Verizon & bought my N6 from Amazon months ago. Verizon gave early buyers static because they hadn't released the N6 themselves (wasn't in their inventory yet) & people were having difficulty getting a Sim, thus the cutting of cards, etc. I called the 800 #, was upfront on where I'd bought my device, & requested a Verizon Sim. No problem & it arrived via Fed-Ex. I actually cut my original Note 2 Sim card myself, installed it & NoGo! Wouldn't work - never worked -hence my hasty request for a new Sim card! They sent mine no problem. All is well! Fantastic upgrade vs a Note IMO.
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