I've found a couple on Craigslist that look to be in great shape. I'm not concerned about software, I'll flash it immediately. However how can I be sure the phone is legit? Are there any scams that I should be aware of? I've never bought a used smartphone so I don't exactly know what to look for, if anything.
Thanks for any advice!
ripeart said:
I've found a couple on Craigslist that look to be in great shape. I'm not concerned about software, I'll flash it immediately. However how can I be sure the phone is legit? Are there any scams that I should be aware of? I've never bought a used smartphone so I don't exactly know what to look for, if anything.
Thanks for any advice!
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First, read this thread and be aware of the risks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3104504
1) Try swappa.com instead. It is dedicated to phone sales, provides some minimal intermediation, and vets the serial number of the phones listed.
2) Make sure the prior owner has not just done a factory reset on the phone, but also has removed his Google account from the security setup. (A new feature in Android 5.1.) If he did not do this, the device will be unusable to you.
Fantastic, thank you for that info.
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However how can I be sure the phone is legit?!
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'Legit' is the not the main thing to worry about.
My personal view is: don't buy a used smartphone.
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'Legit' is the not the main thing to worry about.
My personal view is: don't buy a used smartphone.
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I bought many phones om Marktplaats.nl and i never had problems with `used`phones. I however only bought them if the seller had the bill of purchase and most we`re issued after a contract renewal.
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I bought many phones om Marktplaats.nl and i never had problems with `used`phones. I however only bought them if the seller had the bill of purchase and most we`re issued after a contract renewal.
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Hi Gee.. Yes, I know marktplaats (the Dutch eBay),
Many are happy, a few disappointed.
I know 1 disappointed person.
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Hi Gee.. Yes, I know marktplaats (the Dutch eBay),
Many are happy, a few disappointed.
I know 1 disappointed person.
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With these deals its not about the phone initaly, its about trusting the seller and if i trust that person i move on to focus on the phone. Most phones i got personaly and a few we`re sent to me and i never had a problem so far
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'Legit' is the not the main thing to worry about.
My personal view is: don't buy a used smartphone.
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Care to comment why?
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With these deals its not about the phone initaly, its about trusting the seller and if i trust that person i move on to focus on the phone. Most i got personaly and a few we`re sent to me and i never had a problem so far
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When the price is low, and under the conditions you described, I agree with you.
But in general my view is, better a cheaper phone new, than a high range used phone.
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When the price is low, and under the conditions you described, I agree with you.
But in general my view is, better a cheaper phone new, than a high range used phone.
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Often is that when it sounds too good to be true it usualy is
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Care to comment why?
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1. Smartphones are complex devices. Repair is not always possible. When possible it is expensive.
Smartphones can stop working suddenly.
2. Misuse. You don't know if the used phone is handled with care. For instance dropping and/or contact with water *no warranty repair*.
3. Battery not 100%. Many warranty contracts exclude battery, or a limit of 3 or 6 months.
Not all phones have a removable back. Easy battery replacement not possible.
4. Security block. Since Lollipop the phone could be blocked. There are several posts about that.
5. Bootloader is relocked. Also several posts about problems.
6. A few months after introduction many phones become cheaper.
The main point is the warranty. Here in Europe it is 2 years and mostly 6 months for the battery.
When there is something is wrong the dealer is responsible for replacement/repair.
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Yes, all true. That is why used phones are cheaper than new phones. (Also why used cars are cheaper than new cars.) It's all part of supply and demand in the marketplace.
Overall, I have had mostly good experiences buying and selling several used phones. This is especially true lately with the onset of swappa.com (see linked icon at the top of the xda-developers web page) which is dedicated to phones, more transparent than eBay or Craigslist and has a baseline of protections for buyer and seller.
Sometimes I buy new. Sometimes I buy used. When I buy new, it is nice to know that there will be a robust secondary marketplace for that depreciating asset when I am ready for something else.
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Yes, all true. That is why used phones are cheaper than new phones. (Also why used cars are cheaper than new cars.) It's all part of supply and demand in the marketplace.
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I think better not compare phones with cars. But I know what you mean.
For me it is not 'black' or 'white'.
It is a point of view and a risk.
And when it concerns used phones the risk is the price. But when someone ask me I will tell him/her 'better buy new'.
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With these deals its not about the phone initaly, its about trusting the seller and if i trust that person i move on to focus on the phone. Most phones i got personaly and a few we`re sent to me and i never had a problem so far
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You must read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/scammed-time-selling-swappa-t3152611
After reading, I had to change my idea 'don't buy a used phone' to 'don't buy or sell a used phone'.
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That is why used phones are cheaper than new phones.
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Interesting thread about scamming.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/scammed-time-selling-swappa-t3152611
Yeah but a said i mainly buy a phone in person and i pick it up at the sellers home, seldomly i have it mailed to me
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You must read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/scammed-time-selling-swappa-t3152611
After reading, I had to change my idea 'don't buy a used phone' to 'don't buy or sell a used phone'.
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Interesting thread about scamming.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/scammed-time-selling-swappa-t3152611
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Yes that is an interesting thread, which I note is now closed by the mods, who sent the poster to Swappa to handle this instead of trying to litigate this at XDA. IMHO, if this seller was scammed as he says, his mistake was not following Swappa's policy in the first place, notifying Swappa staff immediately before refunding the money.
Swappa policy states:
Seller may void a sale if they suspect fraud on the part of the buyer. In events of suspected fraud the seller must notify Swappa immediately.
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Yes that is an interesting thread, which I note is now closed by the mods, who sent the poster to Swappa. . . :
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I would like to know more, but I understand the mods. This forum is about technology.
The closed thread it still usefull for anyone who wants something with used phones.
I am curious how Swappa handled this case.
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I would like to know more, but I understand the mods. This forum is about technology.
The closed thread it still usefull for anyone who wants something with used phones.
I am curious how Swappa handled this case.
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I'm curious, too. But Swappa may not be able to help because the seller apparently failed to follow Swappa's established procedure for resolving such disputes at the outset. He might still take his complaint to the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, since USPS reportedly was used by the buyer to ship back the alleged return. Postal fraud is a serious criminal offense, over which that agency has jurisdiction. That provides some deterrence against fraud, but of course does not provide victims any compensation.
As for this thread, the lesson to be learned is: If you use Swappa to buy or sell, follow the rules. And if you suspect fraud, follow the established process.
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selling my tilt with extra battery desktop charger 2gb memory card and 5 screen covers and case for 300 will ship no over seas
will give you 375 (together with shipping) if you ship to Europe, Moldova
its cuboosh in disguise.
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its cuboosh in disguise.
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ah??????????????
dimushor said:
ah??????????????
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394724
do u think he is the guy? he sent me pictures of the device.
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do u think he is the guy? he sent me pictures of the device.
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who knows maybe it is maybe it isn't
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do u think he is the guy? he sent me pictures of the device.
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I have pictures of this bridge I own. Want to buy it? Only $10 million!
Use your noodle mate. The seller is new to the forum and has 3 posts... You're going to trust him with your cash? Be sensible and buy it from a known seller.
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I have pictures of this bridge I own. Want to buy it? Only $10 million!
Use your noodle mate. The seller is new to the forum and has 3 posts... You're going to trust him with your cash? Be sensible and buy it from a known seller.
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i haven't even notice that he was new on the forum. i know that CUSTER had some for sale, and now he does not answer. may be somebody else has a Tilt for sale?
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i haven't even notice that he was new on the forum. i know that CUSTER had some for sale, and now he does not answer. may be somebody else has a Tilt for sale?
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get one on ebay.
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get one on ebay.
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i know about ebay. but on the forum there are better offers. for instance, CUSTER's offer was great.
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i know about ebay. but on the forum there are better offers. for instance, CUSTER's offer was great.
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Not so great if you get a lint roller in return, is it?
thats wrong
what is your problem man i have box and everything i showed you pics if you like i will send you pic of how much i paid and recpit of my credit card
@bluesonicc, don't take offense but there is a big thread going on here about guys that were scammed recently by member(s) selling tilts and sending lint rollers, candles, etc. Seriously, I think your best bet would be to use eBay/craigslist to sell your phone. You'd probably end up getting more money for it anyway. As is at this point, though, you're going to run into a lot of paranoia over your proposed sale.
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i understand what you mean but i have shown everything to this guy full pics and now sending him video of me useing it with todays date it was my girlsfreind phone we broke up and not i wont to get rid of it i never sold anything on ebay b4 not to sure how to use it so thats y i came on here i know it sounds good to be true but i told him that i would use paypal so if he dont like it paypal will him get his money back i told him that i would give money back if he dident like it just upset i know that are bad people out there but its like there calling me a lier and dont even know me im proving as much as i can to him with out him just seeing the phone
Without a decent history here or on HoFo, your not going to get very far.
As stated before, sign up on eBay and list it there. That way the buyer and seller are protected (sort of).
And use punctuation and caps in the proper places.
taken today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KemqQfy617Q
guys, he provided me with videos of the device, with "Chisinau, Moldova" written on it and tthe device near my posts on the forum. so he is clear i think
Thanks
Thanks for posting that for me
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guys, he provided me with videos of the device, with "Chisinau, Moldova" written on it and tthe device near my posts on the forum. so he is clear i think
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You're not getting it - the scammer had all sorts of pictures of the Tilts he was selling. And yet, when the buyers opened their deliveries, they found lint rollers, candles and other assorted crap.
Just because a seller can prove that he is in possession of a Tilt does not guarantee that there will be a Tilt in the box you receive.
That doesn't mean, of course, that this particular seller is a/the scammer. If you trust him and feel that this is a good deal, then go for it. Nobody's stopping you.
But don't expect a lot of sympathy from this forum if you get screwed.
I was talking to one of my buddies here at work who is also an Android Freak like myself and we were discussing about how Google and LG can sell such a device packing what it does for $299 or $349.
It's seems like it has really beautiful build quality also, while Samsung sells a plastic dual core S3 with half the RAM, lower resolution screen for double the price!
Don't get me wrong, I am both happy and sad that the phone is so damn cheap. Glad because it is so dirt cheap that I can buy it as a backup phone to my Note 2 and just not worry about it falling and breaking or whatever. Replacing just the LCD on my Note 2 would probably pay for the whole Nexus 4!
Sad because since it is so cheap, it almost gives me the impression that it's some kind of gophone, pay as you go device. You know, a disposable phone. Something any 13 year old who mows lawns on the weekends can afford. Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks. =)
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
When I first picked up my Note 2, everybody at work was in awe and were ready to go purchase one immediately.
Then I told them how much I paid, $690 off contract and they all had sticker shock. Only one other fella at my work has a Note 2 besides me now, and that's my boss. The device feels special to me.
I know this post seems a bit ridiculous, but that's something that is bugging me a little about the device. What do you guys think? A little something inside kinda wish Google priced this device similar to the Galaxy Nexus. I think it would have been more special to me. Am I crazy?
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Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks.
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Just because people are excited, you're assuming they're 13? Right...
... and imo, the price does not make it any less exclusive.
You could always buy two and strap them back-to-back for that "cachet" feel?
In any case, mainstream smartphones, like all technology, will always be getting less exclusive. If exclusivity is of import, the Tag Heuer Android phones look quite sharp, but probably will be behind on the OS curve...
Setting aside the ridiculousness of caring about exclusivity, your work colleagues likely got sticker-shock because they don't know much about the cellphone market. I'm sure they don't think of the iPhone as an "exclusive" device, and yet it's in the same range as the Note 2 off-contract. The Nexus 4 may not be a monetarily exclusive device, but it's still going to have limited sales due to the number of people who are informed enough about their options to pick one up.
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You could always buy two and strap them back-to-back for that "cachet" feel?
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Front-to-front. The back's the best-looking part, after all; and the part that displays the ever-important logos.
You should realize that there are people outside of XDA who don't even know that this phone exists.
You say less exclusive... I say more support.
How many people actually know what a Nexus phone even is? I don't know anyone who does. They don't really advertise and come to think of it, I've never seen anyone with a Nexus (any of them).
No, it makes it lighter on my wallet. I don't care how many other people have it as long as I do.
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To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
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I don't agree.
[13 yr old comment]If you want to feel special, maybe get it from the TMo store or import it. [/13 yr old comment]
The price is being subsidized. Just making it easier to reach more people. This way el goog can make even more money with mobile ad revenue.
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You should realize that there are people outside of XDA who don't even know that this phone exists.
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Which is why we shouldn't worry about the phone being out of stock. Hopefully the stock outweighs the demand.
If having exclusivity means paying $1000 dollars, I'll take a less exclusive phone any day for $350
You think $500+ phones are exclusive? You'll find more Note 2s and iPhones than N4.
That said, the more the N4s out there, the more accessories there will be for it. And thats always a good thing.
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How many people actually know what a Nexus phone even is? I don't know anyone who does. They don't really advertise and come to think of it, I've never seen anyone with a Nexus (any of them).
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This. I only know one girl outside of XDA that even knows what the Nexus line is.
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Which is why we shouldn't worry about the phone being out of stock. Hopefully the stock outweighs the demand.
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Perhaps. Google may keep production low for the first wave after watching previous launches. There seems to be a lot of uncertainty about the popularity of this phone due to the lack of LTE, expandable storage, and maybe inadequate battery. Those of us looking to buy the phone can only hope that it is either not that popular or that Google didn't lower production.
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When I first picked up my Note 2, everybody at work was in awe and were ready to go purchase one immediately.
Then I told them how much I paid, $690 off contract and they all had sticker shock. Only one other fella at my work has a Note 2 besides me now, and that's my boss. The device feels special to me.
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You know what I got from reading this? That you need to feel special/better than your friends. That's no reason to jack up the price of a phone.
Tell you what, I'll buy mine, then sell it to you for $859.99, that'll really blow your colleagues out of the water! Or how about avoiding the faux pas of bragging about how much money you spent on a cell phone. Hell, if anything I'll be showing my friends this phone and telling them how cheap it was. Look at this thing, it's awesome, and cost half the price of your NoteII!
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Sad because since it is so cheap, it almost gives me the impression that it's some kind of gophone, pay as you go device. You know, a disposable phone. Something any 13 year old who mows lawns on the weekends can afford. Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks. =)
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
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I don't see anything wrong of a 13 year old can save up and purchase this device, it allows a younger audience to own a modern smartphone without the hefty price tag. Exclusivity to one type of group (in this case being age) isn't somthing company's want for their products, and if they lure in the younger users with the low price tag, that means more marketshare for them. The nexus 4 isn't a fashion item like more popular phones such as the iPhone, or even the galaxy s3, it's made for contract free or value plan customers who want a fast phone for a reasonable price.
Lol I think this thread should be closed. =/
Who cares? Does it matter if the phone is not as "exclusive" as you would like?
It's an amazing phone at a great price, it will further push the Android ecosystem.
If you want exclusive, stick with foreign imports of obscure devices.
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Lol I think this thread should be closed. =/
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I clicked the triangle thingy a while ago
bfspider said:
I clicked the triangle thingy a while ago
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XD I just did few minutes ago.
Where do companies like iBlason and Poetic get there products? I know they're from China, but what about websites? All these companies seem to be selling the same thing on Amazon. What website do they come from? Any ideas on starting a company similar to Poetic and iBlason?
You want to start a case company?
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They buy them from factories.
Maybe take a look at Alibaba.com
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Josepho1997 said:
You want to start a case company?
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Not really, I'm just curious bout how they do it.
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They buy them from factories.
Maybe take a look at Alibaba.com
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Is this the main place or any others. It just amazes me how fast some of these companies get this stuff up on Amazon.
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Not really, I'm just curious bout how they do it.
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Oh. Cause the title said "How to start a case company". I was confused.
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Just like any business you need capital to build inventory before you can do anything else, and just because you have inventory doesn't mean you can move it. If you don't understand the business world you really should do some research before you lose a lot of money.
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Just like any business you need capital to build inventory before you can do anything else, and just because you have inventory doesn't mean you can move it. If you don't understand the business world you really should do some research before you lose a lot of money.
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The idea is to ship through Amazon. I'm just curious, that's all. It's just one of those things I would like to do if I had the time and money.
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The idea is to ship through Amazon. I'm just curious, that's all. It's just one of those things I would like to do if I had the time and money.
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Yes, but what would you ship? You need an inventory before you could even begin to consider selling anything. A customer isn't going to wait for you to order their purchase then for it to ship to them.
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Yes, but what would you ship? You need an inventory before you could even begin to consider selling anything. A customer isn't going to wait for you to order their purchase then for it to ship to them.
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I AM NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS YET. DID YOU SEE MY LAST SEVERAL POSTS??? I'm just asking for some advice. I've seen your other posts. All you do is go trolling around this forum trying to piss people off. I can go on if you want, but the truth is that I'm just asking do for advice,
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I AM NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS YET. DID YOU SEE MY LAST SEVERAL POSTS??? I'm just asking for some advice. I've seen your other posts. All you do is go trolling around this forum trying to piss people off. I can go on if you want, but the truth is that I'm just asking do for advice,
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Oh no. You shouldn't have said that...
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Oh no. You shouldn't have said that...
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You're right I probably shouldn't have.
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I AM NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS YET. DID YOU SEE MY LAST SEVERAL POSTS??? I'm just asking for some advice. I've seen your other posts. All you do is go trolling around this forum trying to piss people off. I can go on if you want, but the truth is that I'm just asking do for advice,
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That was advice. If you're considering entering into the sales world you need realistic expectations. Having to build up inventory is part of those. Whatever, good luck with your plans, I was simply trying to offer some of my experience since that was something I have some expertise in.
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That was advice. If you're considering entering into the sales world you need realistic expectations. Having to build up inventory is part of those. Whatever, good luck with your plans, I was simply trying to offer some of my experience since that was something I have some expertise in.
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Really? What's your expertise? I'm not trying to be a *** here even though it may read like it.
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Really? What's your expertise? I'm not trying to be a *** here even though it may read like it.
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It REALLY sounds like that.
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Really? What's your expertise? I'm not trying to be a *** here even though it may read like it.
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A little under a year maintaining inventory for the US warehouse for a Brazilian shipping company called So' Danca that specializes in dance wear but sells almost everything. Not having enough inventory has been the #1 problem "we've" run into. Customer's are typically less than thrilled to hear they have to wait to receive their order since it's out of stock.
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A little under a year maintaining inventory for the US warehouse for a Brazilian shipping company called So' Danca that specializes in dance wear but sells almost everything. Not having enough inventory has been the #1 problem "we've" run into. Customer's are typically less than thrilled to hear they have to wait to receive their order since it's out of stock.
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Yeah, waiting for products to ship sucks. Thanks for the advice though. How much money do you think it would take to jump start something like this?
Edit: going to sleep now and will reply to everything in the morning.
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Yeah, waiting for products to ship sucks. Thanks for the advice though. How much money do you think it would take to jump start something like this?
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Honestly? A lot. There are hundreds of different Android devices you'd have to accommodate for. The only way to even realistically start would be with iPhone cases. Wide spread popularity and only one model to have to maintain inventory for.
If you insisted on specializing in Android phones you'd need to pick a few popular models (like the S3) and start small with them.
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Honestly? A lot. There are hundreds of different Android devices you'd have to accomodate for. The only way to even realistically start would be with iPhone cases. Wide spread popularity and only one model to have to maintain inventory for.
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What do you think the are minimum would be? 10k?
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What do you think the are minimum would be? 10k?
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Maybe. Depends on a few factors. How much you're ordering determines both the unit price and the profit on each item. Obviously wholesale pricing is cheaper but that requires larger starting capital, which isn't always realistic. There's no reason to order 10,000 units if you're not even sure you can move 500 and be stuck with 9,500 cases that diminish in value when a new model comes out. You should expect to wind up losing a significant amount of money until you get some real data on what sells and how much of it sells around the time of year you're ordering it (hint, Christmas has a huge effect on sales).
As you might have seen me crawling around this forum, I'm seriously thinking about buying the z. As for credit check issues I can't get a contract so I'm going to buy it sim free.
Tbh it's my first time buying a sim free phone. So it would be nice if someone could give me some advice on where to get the device. I live in the UK (Nottingham) btw.
I've been thinking about buying it on eBay, has anyone bought it that way? Any risks or advice you can give me if I buy it that way.
Thanks in advance.
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As you might have seen me crawling around this forum, I'm seriously thinking about buying the z. As for credit check issues I can't get a contract so I'm going to buy it sim free.
Tbh it's my first time buying a sim free phone. So it would be nice if someone could give me some advice on where to get the device. I live in the UK (Nottingham) btw.
I've been thinking about buying it on eBay, has anyone bought it that way? Any risks or advice you can give me if I buy it that way.
Thanks in advance.
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Ebay is ok but make sure it's a reputable seller and it's not imported (to avoid warranty issues)
Ideally buy the device unlocked - if you can.
Retailer wise, Expansys (owned by Dragon Peter Jones and based in Marlow, Bucks.) is a good retailer but at full retail the device is £519 - ebay 'unwanted upgrades' go for £370 or so.
I've just bought mine from someone local to me, and insisted on seeing it working with my choice of network. As it happens, he couldn't show this due to a handset fault so i've made him RMA the phone to Sony before i send any money. Just be careful if you're new to eBay.
Tesco Mobile offer the XZ so you can goto a Tesco Extra store to see one in person to have a play before buying - if needed.
Good luck and just make sure you're confident with the sellers reputation on ebay before buying
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As you might have seen me crawling around this forum, I'm seriously thinking about buying the z. As for credit check issues I can't get a contract so I'm going to buy it sim free.
Tbh it's my first time buying a sim free phone. So it would be nice if someone could give me some advice on where to get the device. I live in the UK (Nottingham) btw.
I've been thinking about buying it on eBay, has anyone bought it that way? Any risks or advice you can give me if I buy it that way.
Thanks in advance.
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2117909
I see, is there any risk with sealed units on ebay? I'm orange pay as you go.
Also if I get it from someone as an unwanted upgrade from Orange is there a high risk that the company blocks the device if he doesn't pay the contract or is it quite dangerous for someone to do that? Also what happens to the warranty when I buy it like this do I need anything from the seller in case I need to rma?
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wawyed said:
I see, is there any risk with sealed units on ebay? I'm orange pay as you go.
Also if I get it from someone as an unwanted upgrade from Orange is there a high risk that the company blocks the device if he doesn't pay the contract or is it quite dangerous for someone to do that? Also what happens to the warranty when I buy it like this do I need anything from the seller in case I need to rma?
Thanks
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If you worry about all of those things then I'd recommend buying it from a real shop.
But most of the times when you buy it from someone with a very high rating, you won't have any trouble/problems, not even when it comes to warranty. If the phone breaks the chance is very big that you have to pay either way, it won't matter if you bought it from a shop or a reseller.
You are right, so now the thing is to pick the right seller. So I should pick people with 500+ ratting then?
edit: Also you said something about the phone not being imported? so should I ask the seller about that? It needs to be from the UK or europe?
wawyed said:
You are right, so now the thing is to pick the right seller. So I should pick people with 500+ ratting then?
edit: Also you said something about the phone not being imported? so should I ask the seller about that? It needs to be from the UK or europe?
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Just make sure its a uk seller with a decent amount of positive feedback. Avoid anyone with zero.
see: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/shopping/ebay-protection
and : http://ebay.co.uk/safetycentre/buying.html
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re: imports - all you can do is ask - if it's a uk unwanted upgrade then its not imported
wawyed said:
You are right, so now the thing is to pick the right seller. So I should pick people with 500+ ratting then?
edit: Also you said something about the phone not being imported? so should I ask the seller about that? It needs to be from the UK or europe?
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Uhm I don't think that matters.
I'm not sure which version you need in the UK, I think C6603, as long as the version is ok, there shouldn't be a problem where it from since it's an international phone.
People from the states also buy the phone imported because it's not being sold in North America (Not by carrier that is)
And no 500 rating is way to low imo.
This is a good rating
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(Not saying that you should buy that one, but just giving an example of a good rating.)
P.S. Please remember that when importing a phone you will have to pay VAT once your package has arrived.
I think you had to pay VAT when the device is from beyond Europe, but not when it's being send from another European country (Could be wrong on this one though).
Dsteppa said:
Uhm I don't think that matters.
I'm not sure which version you need in the UK, I think C6603, as long as the version is ok, there shouldn't be a problem where it from since it's an international phone.
People from the states also buy the phone imported because it's not being sold in North America (Not by carrier that is)
And no 500 rating is way to low imo.
This is a good rating
Link
(Not saying that you should buy that one, but just giving an example of a good rating.)
P.S. Please remember that when importing a phone you will have to pay VAT once your package has arrived.
I think you had to pay VAT when the device is from beyond Europe, but not when it's being send from another European country (Could be wrong on this one though).
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I see, I'm looking on ebay.co.uk though, I don't think I'm going to buy one from outside UK. About the imported or not I mean in case I need to RMA it.
Does this one seem legit?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-SONY-...18017?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item417246d181
wawyed said:
Does this one seem legit?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-SONY-...18017?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item417246d181
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Looks quite ok.
It was an example I think I can get it cheaper.
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wawyed said:
It was an example I think I can get it cheaper.
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Don't limit yourself to Ebay. I am selling a XZ on Gumtree because there are no charges and you get to deal with the person face to face. I am sure there are lots of things to be wary of. I don't buy or sell many things so I am not aware of all the pitfalls, though I am sure there are some.
Get more advice from other people if you are thinking of buying from Gumtree, but from what I have seen, (through watching my son-in-law), you show the buyer the item, the buyer gets to see it first hand, and they decide whether to hand over pound notes for it. If the seller seems genuine and the phone is as described, fair enough. If you don't feel right go with your instincts and run.
I personally am very wary of Ebay, but lets be honest, if everyone had a bad experience it wouldn't still exist.
phones 4u are cheap and unlocked
Dont buy it.. Screen is ugly and gets alot of dust also the buttons are very annoying. You have to remove the protectors each time to connect to power and headphone..:good:
Phone is amazing buttons are fine and use the dock and bluetooth then no need to remove flaps
Aerys said:
Dont buy it.. Screen is ugly and gets alot of dust also the buttons are very annoying. You have to remove the protectors each time to connect to power and headphone..:good:
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You think I'm going to spend 400£ or more without researching every single aspect of the phone hehe. Thanks for the advice though but it's still the best option for me.
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juDGEY2k10 said:
phones 4u are cheap and unlocked
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Cheap... 480£ is not that cheap but ty.
charlodroid said:
Don't limit yourself to Ebay. I am selling a XZ on Gumtree because there are no charges and you get to deal with the person face to face. I am sure there are lots of things to be wary of. I don't buy or sell many things so I am not aware of all the pitfalls, though I am sure there are some.
Get more advice from other people if you are thinking of buying from Gumtree, but from what I have seen, (through watching my son-in-law), you show the buyer the item, the buyer gets to see it first hand, and they decide whether to hand over pound notes for it. If the seller seems genuine and the phone is as described, fair enough. If you don't feel right go with your instincts and run.
I personally am very wary of Ebay, but lets be honest, if everyone had a bad experience it wouldn't still exist.
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Thanks but if you buy from eBay PayPal feels more secure if something goes wrong but I'll check that site just in case.
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I bought mine from 3 mobile for £450 and they unlocked it for £15 although I do not believe they charged me lol.
I wouldn't buy a phone anywhere but a real shop to be fair, although the Z seems pretty robust and I doubt there will be too much to worry about regarding repairing it.
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wawyed said:
Cheap... 480£ is not that cheap but ty.
Thanks but if you buy from eBay PayPal feels more secure if something goes wrong but I'll check that site just in case.
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Ebay are biased towards the buyer. If you get no refund from a seller within 14 days, ebay will give you your money back due to distance selling regulations.
Only issue i've encountered with the phone unlocked, is that with every wipe of the phone with SEUS , I have to add the orange APN for internet access. That's easy though.
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I bought mine from 3 mobile for £450 and they unlocked it for £15 although I do not believe they charged me lol.
I wouldn't buy a phone anywhere but a real shop to be fair, although the Z seems pretty robust and I doubt there will be too much to worry about regarding repairing it.
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Ebay are biased towards the buyer. If you get no refund from a seller within 14 days, ebay will give you your money back due to distance selling regulations.
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Always? Or only if the seller accepts returns?
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Has anyone ever sold their device while it was still financed?
No but I know att has a spot when you view your stuff online to view what you owe to own it
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If you financed through Google, you can sell it as the IMEI doesn't show up as financed and the phone is unlocked. Carrier phone IMEI should show up as financed like my T-Mobile phones. I sold my 3A without any issues.
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stevew84 said:
Has anyone ever sold their device while it was still financed?
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Is that even allowed without informing the poor bastard that bought it that he's locked out? That is a weird question. Why do you ask it?
No. You still owe money on it. Pay it off before you sell it to someone else. This applies to anything that you finance in life.
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Has anyone ever sold their device while it was still financed?
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I'm almost certain that is fraud. You don't own it to sell it!
Alcolawl said:
No. You still owe money on it. Pay it off before you sell it to someone else. This applies to anything that you finance in life.
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m+a+r+k said:
Isn't that illegal? You don't own it to sell it!
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People sell their houses and cars all the time that they don't completely own, while still being financed. Why should phones be different. As long as you pay off the phone loan you agreed to, I don't see it as a big deal. Just a simple perspective from from my point of view
Badger50 said:
People sell they're houses and cars all the time that they don't completely own, while still being financed. Why should phones be different. As long as you pay off the phone loan you agreed to, I don't see it as a big deal. Just a simple perspective from from my point of view
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That's not entirely true. When you sell your home it must be paid off before the sale can go through. Whether it's the mortgage company or the title company that home needs to be free and clear of all liens.
And you can't sell a car that you don't own. You can transfer the payments but that's all up front and guaranteed by the bank.
bobby janow said:
That's not entirely true. When you sell your home it must be paid off before the sale can go through. Whether it's the mortgage company or the title company that home needs to be free and clear of all liens.
And you can't sell a car that you don't own. You can transfer the payments but that's all up front and guaranteed by the bank.
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Exactly, just what I was going to say in reply.
It's fraud if you sell something you don't own.
If you pay all the agreed payments then clearly you own it, but until then you don't!
m+a+r+k said:
Exactly, just what I was going to say in reply.
It's fraud if you sell something you don't own.
If you pay all the agreed payments then clearly you own it, but until then you don't!
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not true you can sell it just like you can with a car and have someone take over payments. as long as you pay your monthly dues you'll be good.
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Has anyone ever sold their device while it was still financed?
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I sold my Pixel 2 XL after having it for a year while financing through Verizon. The guy That bought it had Verizon, and everything worked fine. I just payed it off a couple months ago.
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I sold my Pixel 2 XL after having it for a year while financing through Verizon. The guy That bought it had Verizon, and everything worked fine. I just payed it off a couple months ago.
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That is a trusting individual you sold it to. Doesn't Verizon require that you keep the device on your account for 24 months or at least have an account so you get the discount on a monthly basis?
But say something happened to you either physically or financially and you couldn't pay? Then what? If the person knew there was this chance then I guess it's ok as long as there is some kind of documentation for protection. Still sounds sketchy to me though.
If I sold a car and still had to pay my bank for another year or so what's to say that car couldn't be repossessed (IMEI blacklisted) at any given time? Why wouldn't you take the money from the sale and just pay it off on the spot like you do with a home mortgage? I sell a house and I owe $100k for instance. The mortgage company deducts the amount you owe, pays off the loan, and gives you the balance. The buyer now is responsible for either paying it all at once or financing on his / her own.
Unless this is a close relative (and even then..) I would never do anything like that on the sending or receiving end. It doesn't make sense.
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That is a trusting individual you sold it to. Doesn't Verizon require that you keep the device on your account for 24 months or at least have an account so you get the discount on a monthly basis?
But say something happened to you either physically or financially and you couldn't pay? Then what? If the person knew there was this chance then I guess it's ok as long as there is some kind of documentation for protection. Still sounds sketchy to me though.
If I sold a car and still had to pay my bank for another year or so what's to say that car couldn't be repossessed (IMEI blacklisted) at any given time? Why wouldn't you take the money from the sale and just pay it off on the spot like you do with a home mortgage? I sell a house and I owe $100k for instance. The mortgage company deducts the amount you owe, pays off the loan, and gives you the balance. The buyer now is responsible for either paying it all at once or financing on his / her own.
Unless this is a close relative (and even then..) I would never do anything like that on the sending or receiving end. It doesn't make sense.
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Verizon only requires you to keep an active line/account. One of the things I liked about Verizon is that I could put my SIM in any phone, and as long as it had the correct radios, it would work. You can change phones every day if you want, and don't have to contact Verizon to activate. Could I have payed off the phone before I sold it...Yes, but it's not like they charge you interest, and at the time, I had no intention of switching carriers, so it just made sense to leave things as is. I did know the person I sold it to, and I would have never left him holding the bag so to speak. I'm not that kind of person. My only purpose for posting, was to answer the question in the OP that with Verizon anyway it's possible.
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Verizon only requires you to keep an active line/account. One of the things I liked about Verizon is that I could put my SIM in any phone, and as long as it had the correct radios, it would work. You can change phones every day if you want, and don't have to contact Verizon to activate. Could I have payed off the phone before I sold it...Yes, but it's not like they charge you interest, and at the time, I had no intention of switching carriers, so it just made sense to leave things as is. I did know the person I sold it to, and I would have never left him holding the bag so to speak. I'm not that kind of person. My only purpose for posting, was to answer the question in the OP that with Verizon anyway it's possible.
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I wasn't sure about the Verizon line/account restrictions. Of course you are not one to stiff a friend or stranger for that matter. But that's not the point really, or at least I don't think the OP was referring to a private sale like what you did. Private sales are just that, private. But selling a financed phone, car, home or bicycle where the purchaser can have it repossessed unbeknownst to him or her then that is illegal. I'm not an attorney but that would be a case to bring if you can find the person who stiffed you. Thus Swappa will not allow a financed device on their selling site and eBay I'm not sure of. I doubt they check but Paypal might have an issue if reported. Bottom line, don't sell a financed device without full disclosure and a signature to prove it.