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I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
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Don't worry.. it will work Ok, but OB charger has 1000ma, if you use another charger that has let's say 500ma (like USB) it will take 3 hours to charge the phone instead of the regular 45 minutes!
I use a samsung cable directly from USB, the car USB port, a samsung 5530 charger, a LG optimus one charger, and they all worked, with various degrees of effectiveness!
The most useful one is the car's USB port that, even if it cannot keep up with the GPS (it charges slower than the battery drains), it can keep the phone running with 10% loss every hour with screen activated and GPS at the same time! The problem is that I hate radio and don't use CD's that much, and usually end up with the phone depleted before I reach the destination!
Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
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Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
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Both places; battery specify working and standby V and mA, charger specify the V and mA provider
So you can use almost every different charger if the specs are the same, but be aware of this: don't use a charger with less mA since it can burn the charger
Ma - miliamps.
How many milliamps in 1 watt/volt? The answer is 1000.
I assume you are converting between milliampere and watt/volt.
I never had a burnt charger by the way, that would be very strange considering that the phone is accepting 500ma from the start (that is the USB output on any PC), and I even saw chargers with a power of 2W (SUPER FAST CHARGERS). The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
Indeed, it's very strange to have a burnt charger and we don't need to go into an electrical discussion but that happens because of 2 possible things, very high-peak of voltage or prolonged use of under-voltage
mihaiolimpiu said:
The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
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Thanks. Printed on my Moto charger is 850mA so I'll rather use it for my OB next time.
BTW, currently I'm using a replacement charger for my OB with a name "super charger" printed "4.5v - 9.5v 800ma"
It's charging at normal duration in fact I'm using it for days. The only problem is that my OB touchscreen freaks out if I use it while that charger is connected. It's obvious when I run the multitouch testing app because touch points run all over the place. Touchscreen goes back to normal if I disconnect the charger. I tested that "super charger" to my milestone and the same abnormal thing happens to the screen. What causes it?
Probably it's something to do with high voltage... I'd avoid using it if something like that happens to my phone..
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
mihaiolimpiu said:
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
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Like chargers with detachable MicroUSB cable?
BoyBawang2 said:
I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
thanks
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Battery experts say to try and use a charger that's rated half the power of the battery.
So for a 1500 mAh battery, a charger of 850 mAh should be a better option than a 1000 mAh one.
Yes, the 1000 mAh charger would charge the battery faster than the 850 mAh one but it will decrease the lifetime of the battery faster.
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Hello, I don't want to start a new thread so I'll ask here.
The charger that came with my OB seems to be damaged. It was working properly until last last night. My phone detects the charger but it won't charge. Got powermax turned on and it automatically turned off when I connected the charger, so I know my charger does have issues.
Tried banging the charger last night, connected it to phone and started charging, woke up to see that it stopped charging 2 hours ago. It didn't even fully charge my phone. Now I'm charging it with my pc via the USB cable. I noticed that the touch screen goes wild when I use it while connected with the USB.
Now, I'm planning to buy a Galaxy S2 charger. Is it safe to use? S2 and OB has almost the same battery capacity so I'm considering it. Any other suggestions? OB ain't popular here in the Philippines so finding accessories is a real pain in the a**.
Fitted a Corby 2 charger and it seems like they use Mini-usb too. Haven't tried charging with it though.
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
roltzy said:
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
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So, you agree that I use a Galaxy S2 charger? I think it would be fine since my friend with an S2 used my charger to charge his phone and it went well. I'll ask him to buy me one tomorrow. Tnx for reply
Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
Standard port - standard voltage
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
BoyBawang2 said:
Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
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mihaiolimpiu said:
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
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Hello guys! I'm here for an update. For the past week I've been using a Corby 2 charger. And guess what, it works just fine! only downside is it won't charge it up to 100% (usually gets to 99% upon unplugging). And it charges the phone a little slower than the original charger. I always let the phone overcharge overnight to have 100% battery.
Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
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Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
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FUC* stolen how ? this it`s baaaddd ....
Hello I have two questions... First is if I can charge all the phones with the fast 1500mah charger of Xperia Z1???
To my old Xperia sp, charger was 850 mah, can I charge an Xperia SP with 1500mah charger?
Yes your phone.will only take as much.current as it needs
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Yes your phone.will only take as much.current as it needs
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so i can charge with the 1500 mah charger a battery that is 1650mah capacity ? but it wil charge FASTER than a normal charger ? that's the point ?
Wait, you are mixing things up! Your Xperia Z1 Charger does supply 1500 mA (which means 1,5 Ampere) of current at 5,0V DC.
Your Xperia S Battery has a Capacity of 1650 mAh (or 1,65 Ampere Hours) which means that it can supply 1,65 Ampere of continuous current for 1 hour (at 5V, I guess)
So: Yes, you can use a bigger charger and it will charge your phone faster, in this case nearly twice as fast. This will not damage your phone, as it will (as already said) just take the maximum current it can make use of.
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So: Yes, you can use a bigger charger and it will charge your phone faster, in this case nearly twice as fast. This will not damage your phone, as it will (as already said) just take the maximum current it can make use of.
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I thought it was the chipset/kernel which had fast charge capabilities, not the charger?
If the phone only takes the maximum current it will make use of, it doesn't matter what the charger is spitting out, the phone will only draw what it needs to.
I could be wrong, but my Nexus 4 charged at exactly the same speed when I used my Nexus 7 charger as it did with the stock charger.
El Presidente81 said:
I thought it was the chipset/kernel which had fast charge capabilities, not the charger?
If the phone only takes the maximum current it will make use of, it doesn't matter what the charger is spitting out, the phone will only draw what it needs to.
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You are perfectly right! And it's also what I wanted to say. Of course if your phone is not able to draw more than 750 mA, a bigger Charger is useless.
But one can safely try it out!
Hello i have been a very long time user of xda on all my android phones, in the past i have had this odd problem with my galaxy s2 it would do the mysterious "charging but not charging problem" basically i would leave the phone in charge at like 45% and come back an hour later only to find out the logo says its charging but it actually dropped to 24% which was strange at the end after months of changing the cables it ended up happening only "some times" later on i figured lets just change that usb power adapter and what do you know problem solved. But here is my new problem i just recently got an xperia z1 which i have a lot of usb cables for i started using the original cable and it charged as normal, then i was using my cheap cables and i noticed instead of the problem the galaxy gave me this one gave me a new problem where it would be at 61% when i leave it and 20 minutes later i come and its at 62% i put the original cable back and it worked like normal again so i guessed this is a similar problem like the galaxy except with the cable instead. Now 2 months later i am still using the original cable and i have this different problem it would go from 50% to 80% in 40 minutes and then be stuck like that for an hour an then move along like normal. I dont know what the problem is now because this is original cable and original power adapter. Any ideas?
I know that Xperia S had that, some kind of protection for overcharging.
It would stay at 88% most of the time, because first time it charge to 100 and then stop to charge and let battery drain some power. So maybe z1 have some similar stuff, but I didn't recognize that on mine. For me he stop around 96% mostly.
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Use only the original Sony cable.
I had problems also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2842707
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You may have a bad reception and live in a hot place.
If your reception is bad then the phone draws tons of power. Quick fix: flight mode.
If your device is really hot when charging then the charging current is limited in order not to damage the phone. Try charging it in a cool place.
If this won't help either then buy a charger with 2A=2000mah output current.
Would always recommend using better cables to charge... Original Sony cable does +1500 ma charge and cheap cables does +300
That's your 20 minutes per % lol
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jcsy said:
Would always recommend using better cables to charge... Original Sony cable does +1500 ma charge and cheap cables does +300
That's your 20 minutes per % lol
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I don't think that using genuine cable does any difference in Sony devices like it does in Samsung. Actually just using shorter, but thicker cable than genuine would improve charging speed.
i use a monitoring app
Battery Monitor Widget/Current Widget
Both can measure how much of +ma are being injected into the system
I've been examining these results for years with Android on HD2,EVO3D,SGS3,Z1
Cables make a difference whether they are
+300 (cheap cables)
+600 (car charger direct)
+300 to 1000 (car charger usb with 2amp)
+800 (original HTC cable)
+800 (orginal Western D cable for SATA ext disk)
+100 (cheap pink market side cable)
this greatly affects charging speed, and im 100% certain of this
your milage might vary depending on the cables you use, and the socket
i've just recently discovered a friends (Xiaomi cable) which does +1300 and it charges a hell of a fast
this also depends on whether you are using wall socket, powerbank, USB laptop, USB desktop but usually the bottleneck is on the cable
I'd like to let you know that the Z1 also limits the current based on the device temperature, just like it limits the cpu and GPU frequencies. If you don't belive me then open up logcat and get the device to warm up. You'll see the current limit going up. I think that it limits up to 500mAh current although it might not be the maximum cap. The best measurement of the current would be on a single hi amp charger in cold environment so the phone would be constantly cooled down.
Yes all devices also checks temperature and also, how many % remaining
Nearer to 100%, charging rates usually slow down
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Yes all devices also checks temperature and also, how many % remaining
Nearer to 100%, charging rates usually slow down
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I don't think that ALL devices check the temperature and adjust it's processor speed and charging current. I really doubt it as the heat became a major issue somewhere around S800 chipset. There was no temperature control in xperia play at all.. If I were to speak about Sony then I guess that they implemented this somewhere around xperia s or later on the most powerful chipsets. I might be wrong, although I don't think I am.
I really doubt that the current changes depending on the current charge percentage, may I ask you for some kind of a proof? Regarding the charge and clocks I can give be you the proof without any issue, logcat proof, that's legit, but I've never seen any logcat about the charge percentage except for changing the image in the statusbar.
Can I discover what eating battety of my 2 week old Sony Xperia Z1 ?
Try some battery stats app from Google play.
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Your phone is awake a lot of the time when the screen is off. Use an app like Better Battery Stats to find out what's causing the wakelocks. You can use Greenify to prevent apps from running in the background.
I also had problems with non Sony cable. Pluged in, handy is loading. 1 minute later it dont load. Best use original sony cable. With this i dont have problems.
When i use the original sony z3+/z4 charger, my older phone is able to get higher Amp from it than its desinated phone. It has about 10% or 15% more. its always under 1AMP when charging z3+ using its own charger.
MIne is around 1.4X Amp (using Ampere app to measure). I use Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 Charger (that is not supported by my Z3+ Dual, Voltage always stay at less than 5).
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MIne is around 1.4X Amp (using Ampere app to measure). I use Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 Charger (that is not supported by my Z3+ Dual, Voltage always stay at less than 5).
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You meant 0.5amp for your z3+ eh.
You have 2 z4 ?
it is strange that my older xperia is able to draw more power from the same charger, wish there is some modification to change it in the phone so it can charge faster.
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You meant 0.5amp for your z3+ eh.
You have 2 z4 ?
it is strange that my older xperia is able to draw more power from the same charger, wish there is some modification to change it in the phone so it can charge faster.
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I meant Z3+ dual sim variant.
To be a little more precise, I got around 1420 mA
The official Sony quick charger is charging at 2180-1950mA for me and I am on 64% battery right now
Hello. I just bought this XZ1 Compact from a sale. The phone was bundled with UCH20 charger which was a bit disappointing but luckily I had the fast charger, UCH12, from previous Sony phones. I have read that this phone supports Qualcomm's Quick Charge 3.0 so it SHOULD charge quite rapidly. However, when I plugged the phone in the charger, it was charging really slowly. I mean 4.5 hours from 11% to 95%. Should the phone say "charging rapidly" or something at the lock screen?
Anyway, then I decided to test the UCH20 that was bundled with the phone and interestingly it charges a bit faster than the UCH12. This time it took a bit less than 3 hours to charge completely. This UCH12 charger charges rapidly my previous phones so I guess it shouldn't be broken?
What kind of charging speeds have you gotten with the UCH12 charger?
Did you have Battery Care enabled?
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Did you have Battery Care enabled?
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Yes I have. Does it affect the charging speed when below 90% battery?
It shouldn't, but since you only mentioned the total charging time to full 95% and "completely", I figured it wouldn't hurt to make sure.
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It shouldn't, but since you only mentioned the total charging time to full, I figured it wouldn't hurt to make sure.
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Ok. Next time I will toggle it off and see if itmakes any difference. Sadly this battery lasts forever so I have to wait a couple of days to test it
Just bought an XZ1 compact myself, and I'm interested in the answer to this question, too. According to the Sony site, the XZ1 compact is compatible for QC with the UCH12W, but not the UCH12: https://support.sonymobile.com/glob...-charging/02310188014550f700148fcce243e002e57
However, these posts from Sony support suggest that there are no differences between the two, other than the cables that come with them: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...tween-a-UHC20-and-UHC12-chargers/td-p/1297608 https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Wired-accessories/Chargers-UCH12-vs-UCH12W/td-p/1194598
The UCH12W appears to be an international version without US-style bladed contacts, and I can't find it on the US version of the Sony store. Also, when you go to the US Sony store and search for compatible chargers based on phone model, the XZ1 compact shows *no* models, just a car charger. So maybe it's possible that the US model of the quick charger really is incompatible with the XZ1c, even though the phone does have QC capability?
I'd love to hear about a confirmed working (third party is fine) QC charger that's compatible.
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Just bought an XZ1 compact myself, and I'm interested in the answer to this question, too. According to the Sony site, the XZ1 compact is compatible for QC with the UCH12W, but not the UCH12: https://support.sonymobile.com/glob...-charging/02310188014550f700148fcce243e002e57
However, these posts from Sony support suggest that there are no differences between the two, other than the cables that come with them: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...tween-a-UHC20-and-UHC12-chargers/td-p/1297608 https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Wired-accessories/Chargers-UCH12-vs-UCH12W/td-p/1194598
The UCH12W appears to be an international version without US-style bladed contacts, and I can't find it on the US version of the Sony store. Also, when you go to the US Sony store and search for compatible chargers based on phone model, the XZ1 compact shows *no* models, just a car charger. So maybe it's possible that the US model of the quick charger really is incompatible with the XZ1c, even though the phone does have QC capability?
I'd love to hear about a confirmed working (third party is fine) QC charger that's compatible.
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AS i wrote in this thread sony chargers wont charge faster than 1.5 amps. I also6 posted that i 3rd party charger stated qc3.0 whom ill using now, goes AT 2.0 amps which charges about 1.5% a minute compared to stock about 1%
maaakn said:
AS i wrote in this thread sony chargers wont charge faster than 1.5 amps. I also6 posted that i 3rd party charger stated qc3.0 whom ill using now, goes AT 2.0 amps which charges about 1.5% a minute compared to stock about 1%
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Alright now I did some testing with Ampere app and with UCH20 I get 1500 mA charhing, UCH12 I get 2060 mA and third party charger also 2060 mA. This was with battery care protection DISABLED.
This UCH12 however is acting weird and makes my touchscreen go crazy. I will not be using it anymore.
maaakn said:
AS i wrote in this thread sony chargers wont charge faster than 1.5 amps. I also6 posted that i 3rd party charger stated qc3.0 whom ill using now, goes AT 2.0 amps which charges about 1.5% a minute compared to stock about 1%
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Hello maaakn
I just bought the 12UCHw since I have a new XZ1 C coming
I do hope it will charge quicker than the stock charger ?