I have been using custom roms since the last few years but never without root.
I need to use my phone at work via AirWatch and it doesn't allow root.
Most of the features and tweaks in custom roms don't necessarily need root as they are baked into the system.
What are my options if I want to use Chroma / Pure Nexus? Both of them are pre-rooted.
The only feature that I would miss is custom color profiles. As far as my knowledge goes, the only way to implement it without root is adding it to ramdisk as it relies on sysfs files.
suku_patel_22 said:
I have been using custom roms since the last few years but never without root.
I need to use my phone at work via AirWatch and it doesn't allow root.
Most of the features and tweaks in custom roms don't necessarily need root as they are baked into the system.
What are my options if I want to use Chroma / Pure Nexus? Both of them are pre-rooted.
The only feature that I would miss is custom color profiles. As far as my knowledge goes, the only way to implement it without root is adding it to ramdisk as it relies on sysfs files.
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no options. to remove root completely, yoj have to flash a factory img
simms22 said:
no options. to remove root completely, yoj have to flash a factory img
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How effective is SuperSU's inbuilt remove root function?
Are you saying no custom ROM for me?
suku_patel_22 said:
How effective is SuperSU's inbuilt remove root function?
Are you saying no custom ROM for me?
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If we could change/add system files (as a custom rom does) without root, no one would have to root
suku_patel_22 said:
How effective is SuperSU's inbuilt remove root function?
Are you saying no custom ROM for me?
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im saying if you need to be unrooted, flashing a factory img will be the only way. you can do it the way explained in SuperSU, and you wont have root. but apps that detect root will still think youre rooted.
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gee2012 said:
If we could change/add system files (as a custom rom does) without root, no one would have to root
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sure, you can run any custom rom or kernel without root. but you wont be able to change settings or anything like that, since those apps need root to work.
suku_patel_22 said:
I have been using custom roms since the last few years but never without root.
I need to use my phone at work via AirWatch and it doesn't allow root.
Most of the features and tweaks in custom roms don't necessarily need root as they are baked into the system.
What are my options if I want to use Chroma / Pure Nexus? Both of them are pre-rooted.
The only feature that I would miss is custom color profiles. As far as my knowledge goes, the only way to implement it without root is adding it to ramdisk as it relies on sysfs files.
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You should be able to find a custom ROM without root. If not, you should be able to remove the root files from your custom ROM. (That said, I'm not sure what pre-installed apps would be impacted, as some of them may require root.)
As for AirWatch working properly, it would depend on what it looks for to check for root -- if it doesn't find what it's looking for on your custom ROM, then it should work.
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If we could change/add system files (as a custom rom does) without root, no one would have to root
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You can always make modifications while booted in recovery or with an insecure kernel... all without having root...
I will try removing the SuperSU zip from within the ROM before flashing.
suku_patel_22 said:
I will try removing the SuperSU zip from within the ROM before flashing.
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cool, let us kmow how it goes
Deleting the SuperSU folder in the ROM and the one flashing was all good, but was unable to install AirWatch.
Sigh!! Back to stock..
suku_patel_22 said:
Deleting the SuperSU folder in the ROM and the one flashing was all good, but was unable to install AirWatch.
Sigh!! Back to stock..
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thats what i tried to tell ya :silly:
suku_patel_22 said:
Deleting the SuperSU folder in the ROM and the one flashing was all good, but was unable to install AirWatch.
Sigh!! Back to stock..
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Deleting the SuperSU folder does not remove root. You need to remove ALL the root files.
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Hi, I know it may have been foolish of me to get the Dev edition and im not a dev but it's unlocked, more storage and i think it was the better choice.
With that being said, is there a way to root this device permanently? I see there's an HTC One toolkit but it seems to be only for the ones with the Bootloader locked. This bootloader is unlocked so is there a thread yall can direct me to in order to root and flash a custom rom?
I'd appreciate it Folks
stepinmyworld said:
Hi, I know it may have been foolish of me to get the Dev edition and im not a dev but it's unlocked, more storage and i think it was the better choice.
With that being said, is there a way to root this device permanently? I see there's an HTC One toolkit but it seems to be only for the ones with the Bootloader locked. This bootloader is unlocked so is there a thread yall can direct me to in order to root and flash a custom rom?
I'd appreciate it Folks
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you don't need to root it, just flash a recovery and then a custom rom and then you'll have a rooted device cause custom roms are all rooted
matt95 said:
you don't need to root it, just flash a recovery and then a custom rom and then you'll have a rooted device cause custom roms are all rooted
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Thank you! Awesome
matt95 said:
you don't need to root it, just flash a recovery and then a custom rom and then you'll have a rooted device cause custom roms are all rooted
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One more stupid question about Dev edition: will I be able to flash mods/apps from zip files using custom recovery, without rooting the phone/installing custom rooted ROM? There is a reason I don't want to root - my corporate mail will not work on rooted device, then I will need to use something like Voodoo OTA Root keeper and hide my root all the time, then restore it when I need, do what I need and after it I will need to re-install corporate email and re-enroll to company's server, in order to not get in trouble with company's Information Security, which I do not want.
I am not so interested in custom ROMs, but do interested in few mods and addons that will definitely come soon (e.g. separation of Ringtones sound level from Notification, battery charge percent on the battery icon in status bar, etc)
Thanks!
EugeneR said:
One more stupid question about Dev edition: will I be able to flash mods/apps from zip files using custom recovery, without rooting the phone/installing custom rooted ROM? There is a reason I don't want to root - my corporate mail will not work on rooted device, then I will need to use something like Voodoo OTA Root keeper and hide my root all the time, then restore it when I need, do what I need and after it I will need to re-install corporate email and re-enroll to company's server, in order to not get in trouble with company's Information Security, which I do not want.
I am not so interested in custom ROMs, but do interested in few mods and addons that will definitely come soon (e.g. separation of Ringtones sound level from Notification, battery charge percent on the battery icon in status bar, etc)
Thanks!
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well i don't think so... if you do not want to be rooted you have to remain with the stock rom and i don't know if every mod is compatible with that
Root issues
matt95 said:
you don't need to root it, just flash a recovery and then a custom rom and then you'll have a rooted device cause custom roms are all rooted
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I did the same. I just flashed CWM Touch Recovery and Superuser, but AdAway disables every time I reboot and I can't get rid of the Google Bloatware and FB/Twitter - which I don't use. I tried deleting them using ES File Explorer, but they come back every time I reboot. Please help. I hate having the bloatware and knowing that it takes up almost 150 MB makes me mad!!!
/system has kernel protection and you need to flash either a kernel or rom that disables it.
Ah!
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/system has kernel protection and you need to flash either a kernel or rom that disables it.
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Ah! I see. Do you know of any kernel that I can safely flash and not break my phone? It's only a week old and I don't want to end up bricking it or something. Also, do you know if I can still receive OTA updates from HTC? Whenever they do come out, that is. Sorry to be asking such a noob-ish question..
Also, is that the same reason AdAway gets auto-disabled at every boot?
Faux123 has a great kernel, and yes the hosts file gets reset for the same reason.
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Faux123 has a great kernel, and yes the hosts file gets reset for the same reason.
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Can you please tell me what the potential issues are, if I flash the kernel? Also, please let me know about the OTA updates and if it'll work after rooting and/or flashing a new kernel. Thank you!
Flash the kernel known as elemental X. It seems to have zero issues, I've been running it for a while now and the only difference is I am fully rooted with this kernel.AS far as OTA updates..
well whenever you unlock the bootloader at HTC's website it will definitely reset a non developer edition phone to factory defaults and from there it will remove calculator and a couple of other apps so that HTC knows you're no longer boot loader locked and yes this will prevent OTA updates.
since yours came with an unlocked bootloader in theory you could just flash the kernel and from there when you install SuperSU you will be able to do anything you need to do. With SuperSU you can temporarily turn off root so that you can do things that would normally be prevented/notice that you are rooted.
The Redbox streaming video service app is an example, it will not work on rooted devices but if you go in the SuperSU app and turn on temporary un-root. Then you are able to load the app, watch a show then close the app and restore root all without rebooting..
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Flash the kernel known as elemental X. It seems to have zero issues, I've been running it for a while now and the only difference is I am fully rooted with this kernel.AS far as OTA updates..
well whenever you unlock the bootloader at HTC's website it will definitely reset a non developer edition phone to factory defaults and from there it will remove calculator and a couple of other apps so that HTC knows you're no longer boot loader locked and yes this will prevent OTA updates.
since yours came with an unlocked bootloader in theory you could just flash the kernel and from there when you install SuperSU you will be able to do anything you need to do. With SuperSU you can temporarily turn off root so that you can do things that would normally be prevented/notice that you are rooted.
The Redbox streaming video service app is an example, it will not work on rooted devices but if you go in the SuperSU app and turn on temporary un-root. Then you are able to load the app, watch a show then close the app and restore root all without rebooting..
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Thank you for allaying my fears. I flashed the faux123 kernel because it was suggested "first!" Working fine now. I rebooted and the apps haven't come back after uninstalling them. Thank you so so much for educating me!
PS: How do I Thank you officially? Is there some thank button on here?
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IIHomieII said:
Flash the kernel known as elemental X. It seems to have zero issues, I've been running it for a while now and the only difference is I am fully rooted with this kernel.AS far as OTA updates..
well whenever you unlock the bootloader at HTC's website it will definitely reset a non developer edition phone to factory defaults and from there it will remove calculator and a couple of other apps so that HTC knows you're no longer boot loader locked and yes this will prevent OTA updates.
since yours came with an unlocked bootloader in theory you could just flash the kernel and from there when you install SuperSU you will be able to do anything you need to do. With SuperSU you can temporarily turn off root so that you can do things that would normally be prevented/notice that you are rooted.
The Redbox streaming video service app is an example, it will not work on rooted devices but if you go in the SuperSU app and turn on temporary un-root. Then you are able to load the app, watch a show then close the app and restore root all without rebooting..
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Thank button found and clicked!
Yes I have read the FAQ, and I still think this is possible, if you install via custom recovery.
Currently the flashable zip generation requires root access. If there is any way to generate that flashable zip file without root then only a custom recovery would be required to install Xposed, as a custom recovery can write to /system without needing root. Since I am currently installing root only to install Xposed and then immediately removing it I would greatly appreciate an install option that doesn't require me going through the rooting process.
So my request is for the two recovery installation options not require root to generate the zip file. Thank you.
Open recovery, flash ZIP file.
You don't need at all.
That part I know. Once I have the flashable zip file I am fine. However, on my phone I cannot create the flashable zip file without root. It just fails. Hence my request.
Stupid question, but can you install recovery without root?
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Stupid question, but can you install recovery without root?
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Yes, some manufacturers include recoveries pre-installed, but those often have restricted functionality.
Also, recovery can be installed on some phones without root with the use of a PC (again, it's brand-dependant).
And finally, a few (too few) manufacturers ship their devices with unlocked bootloader which means you can do anything you want with them.
XspeedPL said:
Yes, some manufacturers include recoveries pre-installed, but those often have restricted functionality.
Also, recovery can be installed on some phones without root with the use of a PC (again, it's brand-dependant).
And finally, a few (too few) manufacturers ship their devices with unlocked bootloader which means you can do anything you want with them.
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Yep. I personally have an HTC device and they allow anyone to unlock their bootloader by filling out a form on their website. Once the bootloader is unlocked no root is required to flash a custom recovery. That is how I typically run my device no root but custom recovery. Occasionally, I revert to stock recovery to install a system update. Then I run into this issue where I have to root just to reactivate Xposed, then unroot again. I would much prefer to avoid the root/unroot part of reactivating Xposed.
I'm hoping that since it is only creating the zip file that I am asking about this is a quick and easy change.
XspeedPL said:
Yes, some manufacturers include recoveries pre-installed, but those often have restricted functionality.
Also, recovery can be installed on some phones without root with the use of a PC (again, it's brand-dependant).
And finally, a few (too few) manufacturers ship their devices with unlocked bootloader which means you can do anything you want with them.
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In Moto G you can install a custom recovery and mount /system and /data (I need a custom recovery to flash SuperSU.zip), so, I think it's possible.
XspeedPL said:
Yes, some manufacturers include recoveries pre-installed, but those often have restricted functionality.
Also, recovery can be installed on some phones without root with the use of a PC (again, it's brand-dependant).
And finally, a few (too few) manufacturers ship their devices with unlocked bootloader which means you can do anything you want with them.
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Not the stock recoveries, installed recoveries. I didn't think you could install TWRP or CWM without root.
ldeveraux said:
Not the stock recoveries, installed recoveries. I didn't think you could install TWRP or CWM without root.
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Have you heard of flashtool or Odin?
Using flashmode/fastboot you can do more than with root.
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Not the stock recoveries, installed recoveries. I didn't think you could install TWRP or CWM without root.
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I have installed both without root multiple times. Here are a few guides.
Nexus Devices (Note rooting comes after custom recovery is installed.)
General Advice (Note: First option requires root, second two do not.)
In general as long as you can unlock your bootloader no root is required. I have only ever purchased Android devices that let me unlock the bootloader, so I have always gone that route.
Again for my feature request though I just want the flashable zip generation to not require root. That (hopefully minor) change would allow a completely root free use of Xposed. Which would be wonderful for me.
Stock recovery will only flash officially signed packages. If you have a custom recovery, you can easily gain root access. So what point would it serve?
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Stock recovery will only flash officially signed packages. If you have a custom recovery, you can easily gain root access. So what point would it serve?
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That question makes no more sense to me than a comment that Xposed does nothing more than a custom ROM, and if you can install Xposed you can install a custom ROM so what is the point of Xposed?
However, I will provide a few of my answers to your question pick your favorite.
Requiring root without needing to doesn't serve any point so why require it?
Root is required "because it replaces a file in /system/bin". However, on my phone /system/bin is write protected by the kernel, so root does not grant write access to /system/bin only recovery does, So why is root required to create a zip file that I install via recovery?
I like to be able to run apps that don't work if you are rooted. (DRM protected movies, corporate apps, etc.) so rooting causes me problems, and fully unrooting afterwards is a bit of a pain. (I have had to develop a custom script to do it efficiently.)
So, I just did some more searching and discovered that I'm not the only one who wants this. jurben requested this back in September and even wrote up the code to make it possible.
So, I went ahead and turned it into a Pull Request on GitHub. Hopefully it gets accepted.
Hey guys, I have a 64GB stock T-Mobile Galaxy S6 that I have (somewhat) debloated and so far the battery is okay.
I've heard promising reviews about XtreStoLite G920T Pure Edition ROM.
First, I want to make a backup of the STOCK ROM I currently have, but IIRC, you cannot back it up unless you root first?
I was looking into PingPongRoot so I could go back to stock just in case anything would happen but I need to know how to back it up first.
Second, I want to install the ROM and I'm pretty sure I'm correct. Do I need Odin if I use PingPongRoot?
Third, I want to install Ktoonzes kernel as well but I don't know anything about that.
So, pretty much I need help with:
1. Backup current stock ROM before rooting
2. Root with PingPong
3. Install XtreStoLite
4. Install Ktoonzes
Also, if there is anything else I should be cautious of let me know. Thanks guys!
While all of this info is easily accessible, in the spirit of giving... Here you go.
To backup, you need root.
Install SuperSu from play store, open SuperSu at least one time, then download Ping Pong Root APK and run it. It may take two tries, that's normal.
Then, to back up, either install TWRP with Flashify (downloadable from Play Store) or via Odin (Either method will trip Knox in bootloader and void Samsung warranty, will not harm phone in any way) and back up
To install ROM, Flash in TWRP recovery (if you installed TWRP in last step Knox is already tripped)
Then, use TWRP to flash Ktoonzes kernel (I recommend letting ROM boot at least once fully then going back to recovery to flash kernel)
norcalsfinest said:
While all of this info is easily accessible, in the spirit of giving... Here you go.
To backup, you need root.
Install SuperSu from play store, open SuperSu at least one time, then download Ping Pong Root APK and run it. It may take two tries, that's normal.
Then, to back up, either install TWRP with Flashify (downloadable from Play Store) or via Odin (Either method will trip Knox in bootloader and void Samsung warranty, will not harm phone in any way) and back up
To install ROM, Flash in TWRP recovery (if you installed TWRP in last step Knox is already tripped)
Then, use TWRP to flash Ktoonzes kernel (I recommend letting ROM boot at least once fully then going back to recovery to flash kernel)
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jeffreylin_ said:
If you don't want to void your warranty, you could back up using Chainfire's FlashFire, but note that it is an app and therefore you need to have a semi-working system to restore! Which is fine since you can flash stock using Odin, then root using PingPong and install FlashFire again. Just slightly more of a hassle.
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Thanks guys!
jeffreylin_ said:
If you don't want to void your warranty, you could back up using Chainfire's FlashFire, but note that it is an app and therefore you need to have a semi-working system to restore! Which is fine since you can flash stock using Odin, then root using PingPong and install FlashFire again. Just slightly more of a hassle.
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So wait... flashfire and pingpong root i can flash a new rom without tripping knox????
frettfreak said:
So wait... flashfire and pingpong root i can flash a new rom without tripping knox????
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Yes, only if you don't flash a kernel with the new ROM. You have to edit the zip and remove the boot.IMG , then edit the updater script to remove the command to wipe and flash boot.img. if this sounds too difficult to you don't try it
norcalsfinest said:
Yes, only if you don't flash a kernel with the new ROM. You have to edit the zip and remove the boot.IMG , then edit the updater script to remove the command to wipe and flash boot.img. if this sounds too difficult to you don't try it
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So how do you flash a custom ROM without a custom recovery? Recovery trips Knox...
I'm gonna need to look into this one. Been a while since I did anything with a Samsung device.
Marine6680 said:
So how do you flash a custom ROM without a custom recovery? Recovery trips Knox...
I'm gonna need to look into this one. Been a while since I did anything with a Samsung device.
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I don't think chain fire has been to open about how flashfire works (not a problem his choice). So if you want a good idea how it works look into safestrap, I'm sure it's close other than the fact safestrap doesn't need a app in a working system.
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I don't think chain fire has been to open about how flashfire works (not a problem his choice). So if you want a good idea how it works look into safestrap, I'm sure it's close other than the fact safestrap doesn't need a app in a working system.
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Needs a zip without the kernel... I remember seeing a ROM that mentioned not having a kernel, I guess for this reason.
I don't think any of the t-mobile ROMs come setup like that though. So I would need to go through the trouble of repackaging the ROMs myself.
May not bother and just trip the counter and flash normal. Custom kernels are often the way to go for battery life and performance.
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Needs a zip without the kernel... I remember seeing a ROM that mentioned not having a kernel, I guess for this reason.
I don't think any of the t-mobile ROMs come setup like that though. So I would need to go through the trouble of repackaging the ROMs myself.
May not bother and just trip the counter and flash normal. Custom kernels are often the way to go for battery life and performance.
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Oh I thought you meant how flashfire boots into its recovery mode without tripping knox, yeah custom kernels and recoveries will trip knox but if the demand is high enough there are ways to use custom kernels without flashing them and someone is bound to bring it to the s6, but I'm sure the demand has to be high enough.
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Oh I thought you meant how flashfire boots into its recovery mode without tripping knox, yeah custom kernels and recoveries will trip knox but if the demand is high enough there are ways to use custom kernels without flashing them and someone is bound to bring it to the s6, but I'm sure the demand has to be high enough.
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Its an interesting alternative to full root flashing. Preserving the warranty is good for some people.
Ever since I did pingpong root, I have been having odd issues with pandora bluetooth streaming to my car. Hopeing a custom ROM will solve this.
With the new features in Marshmallow, what are the remaining reasons to still root it?
Thanks.
jsk108 said:
With the new features in Marshmallow, what are the remaining reasons to still root it?
Thanks.
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Well if you like to theme layers works naively on M. You just need root and a kernel that allows r/w. That's one good reason for it.
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With the new features in Marshmallow, what are the remaining reasons to still root it?
Thanks.
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For me, adaway and debloating are big. Custom kernal so I can properly adjust my screen calibration to. Its way to yellow on the nexus 6.
jsk108 said:
With the new features in Marshmallow, what are the remaining reasons to still root it?
Thanks.
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to access system files, to change or delete them. cant do it without root. to make sure that my n6 is the fastest n6 around. but thats just one if many reasons. no, you do not need root to flash roms or kernels. you do need root to use the apps to control them.
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For me, adaway and debloating are big. Custom kernal so I can properly adjust my screen calibration to. Its way to yellow on the nexus 6.
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Can you have an expanded desktop and pie controls without rooting on M? Those would be amongst my main reasons at this point. Thanks!
jsk108 said:
Can you have an expanded desktop and pie controls without rooting on M? Those would be amongst my main reasons at this point. Thanks!
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yes. you can flash a rom that has them included. you do not need root to flash a recovery, nor do you need root to flash roms/kernels.
Root is a necessity for since I need to block ads. So basically for Adaway.
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One word: Xposed
Astro file manager can't seem to access my internal sdcard suddenly. Also life without Adaway is intolerable. Don't they realize we escaped to the internet to get away from overbearing ads?
change build.prop to allow wifi tethering and add few other items I think my phone should have that the carrier doesnt
simms22 said:
yes. you can flash a rom that has them included. you do not need root to flash a recovery, nor do you need root to flash roms/kernels.
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I really had no clue that you didn't need Root to flash a Rom.. This is my first Nexus device. I have owned 5 android devices and always rooted to flash custom roms. You just blew my mind.
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I really had no clue that you didn't need Root to flash a Rom.. This is my first Nexus device. I have owned 5 android devices and always rooted to flash custom roms. You just blew my mind.
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you do not need root, but you need an unlocked bootloader and to fastboot flash twrp recovery(so you can flash roms or kernels). the only thing that you would need root for is an app to control kernels. but if youre not into controlling kernels, then no root is needed
I didn't even root my phone on Lollipop. Made a few changes in recovery, and had custom recovery, but that was the extent of my changes.
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One word: Xposed
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Unfortunately, Xposed isn't out for Marshmallow yet.
I unencrypted and the only benefit I see to not having root is that you can do OTA's but since unencrypting and custom recovery took that away I might as well get root and enjoy viper4android, ad-block, custom kernels, play music exporter, no nag tethering (yes I pay for it, just hate when the checking subscription stalls cuz AT&T can't be bothered to fix it), etc.
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Unfortunately, Xposed isn't out for Marshmallow yet.
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I know that, but it will be eventually.
Titanium Backup.
Pretty much the same reason to root L.
Can't think of a single root function that's now stock?
jsk108 said:
With the new features in Marshmallow, what are the remaining reasons to still root it?
Thanks.
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If you're not sure if you want to root it, then don't.
scryan said:
Pretty much the same reason to root L.
Can't think of a single root function that's now stock?
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App permissions management used to require root and is now stock on 6.0. That's the first thing that pops into my head....
I want to be as close to stock as possible. Is it possible to flash (with ODIN) 100% stock rom then root with unikernel and remove all the t-mobile apps and knox etc..then go back to stock kernel and unroot? how would I unroot?
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Why would you want to unroot?
I would flash CF-Auto-Root from ODIN, do what I need to do, then open the SuperSU app, scroll down, and click Full Unroot.
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I want to unroot because the phone is for my gf who knows nothing about technology, I don't want her to accidentally do anything to the phone if it's rooted lol. Does CF auto root work 100% for th S6 now? I always used unified kernel.
euklid said:
I want to unroot because the phone is for my gf who knows nothing about technology, I don't want her to accidentally do anything to the phone if it's rooted lol. Does CF auto root work 100% for th S6 now? I always used unified kernel.
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my wife's phone is rooted and she wouldn't even know it if she seen it.
Women who don't know about root which is most in that casee could care less . As long as theyre facebook and cam works...lol .The only time they could do harm is Going to the extent of booting into twrp in which they would not even know the first thing about flashing a zip .
Root her phone debloat it and it's done.
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euklid said:
I want to unroot because the phone is for my gf who knows nothing about technology, I don't want her to accidentally do anything to the phone if it's rooted lol. Does CF auto root work 100% for th S6 now? I always used unified kernel.
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5.0.2 was good for cf auto
Since 5.1.1 you cant downgrade and requires a rootable kernel and most people do it this way .
Just flash uni kernel v8 tar in Odin and reboot or flash twrp with Odin and then flash the unikenrel v8 zip before you reboot
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androidddaaron said:
my wife's phone is rooted and she wouldn't even know it if she seen it.
Women who don't know about root which is most in that casee could care less . As long as theyre facebook and cam works...lol .
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Exactly. +1
Don't do it, she'll hate you because stuff isn't going to work for her.
Just disable apps she doesn't want and leave stock with everything working.
Pp.
I'd be interested in this because I need to use an app for my work that checks for root and xposed framework. But I'd still like to use a ROM with enhancements like low battery camera etc and without all the useless apps.
MrManH said:
I'd be interested in this because I need to use an app for my work that checks for root and xposed framework. But I'd still like to use a ROM with enhancements like low battery camera etc and without all the useless apps.
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There are root cloaking apps which are meant to hide that you have root access. I cannot speak as to their effectiveness but they are out there.
I told my employer that I wasn't unrooting my phone and that if somebody needed something so urgently as to pull me away from my personal time when I work 9-5:30 m-f that I didn't rhink it too much to ask that said individual(s) contact me personally. They actually came to agree with me.
cwhiatt said:
There are root cloaking apps which are meant to hide that you have root access. I cannot speak as to their effectiveness but they are out there.
I told my employer that I wasn't unrooting my phone and that if somebody needed something so urgently as to pull me away from my personal time when I work 9-5:30 m-f that I didn't rhink it too much to ask that said individual(s) contact me personally. They actually came to agree with me.
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These don't work for the app I'm using, I looked into it. I have no use for root other than debloating the phone, and the built in features of custom roms (which I believe don't require root access).
MrManH said:
These don't work for the app I'm using, I looked into it. I have no use for root other than debloating the phone, and the built in features of custom roms (which I believe don't require root access).
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If you use systemless root, delete /su/xbin_bind and then follow this thread's instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/passing-safetynet-root-t3307659 nothing will be able to detect root without requesting it [which you can deny] and you're golden.