Make nexus 6 OUTPUT wireless charging? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have moto 360 and while it lasts me all day since I don't have any portable qi chargers I'm afraid I'll run out of battery if I stay at someone's house or something.
So I was thinking, the nexus has qi as well, so could I make the nexus charge my moto 360?
I would charge my nexus through the many wired external batteries I have so the draw backs would be minimum if it's at all possible.
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reinaldistic said:
I have moto 360 and while it lasts me all day since I don't have any portable qi chargers I'm afraid I'll run out of battery if I stay at someone's house or something.
So I was thinking, the nexus has qi as well, so could I make the nexus charge my moto 360?
I would charge my nexus through the many wired external batteries I have so the draw backs would be minimum if it's at all possible.
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no. the n6 isnt a wireless charger. it can receive a charge, but cant give a charge.

Very helpful... , why not? The nexus 6 isn't a lot of things and yet we make it possible, what us stopping the nexus 6 from being able to do this?
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Hardware limitations. It's not made to wirelessly output enough power to charge a device. Only enough to activate a NFC chip with a short blast to read/write.

reinaldistic said:
Very helpful... , why not?
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Because DIODES.
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graydiggy said:
Hardware limitations. It's not made to wirelessly output enough power to charge a device. Only enough to activate a NFC chip with a short blast to read/write.
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NFC does not use the QI coil at all. Its totally separate.

doitright said:
Because DIODES.
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NFC does not use the QI coil at all. Its totally separate.
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Then how does usb otg manage to output power?
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doitright said:
Because DIODES.
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NFC does not use the QI coil at all. Its totally separate.
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I never said it does...
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reinaldistic said:
Then how does usb otg manage to output power?
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Because USB

reinaldistic said:
Then how does usb otg manage to output power?
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By being physically designed to do so.
Anyway, its not possible and it cannot be made to be possible with software

danarama said:
By being physically designed to do so.
Anyway, its not possible and it cannot be made to be possible with software
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Mod needs to close this thread. This a no go from the get go.

This would be a good DIY imagine gots potential pretty sure someone with engineering experience could probably maybe just maybe get this to work :3
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MT4GH said:
This would be a good DIY imagine gots potential pretty sure someone with engineering experience could probably maybe just maybe get this to work :3
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It would need firmware and hardware modification. Yes you're right, it is not beyond the realms of possibility - on the other hand, this will not be happening.

MT4GH said:
This would be a good DIY imagine gots potential pretty sure someone with engineering experience could probably maybe just maybe get this to work :3
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Sure, but it would require SOLDERING to do so.
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USB OTG --> USB wire --> USB powered Qi charger?
Of course, the Nexus won't actually be outputting wireless charging, it will just be outputting power on the USB.
Note: Don't do this, it will drain the Nexus battery to accomplish not very much moto charging.
And for that matter, what does it matter if the WATCH runs dead if you have a PHONE in your pocket? Let it run dead!

doitright said:
Sure, but it would require SOLDERING to do so.
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USB OTG --> USB wire --> USB powered Qi charger?
Of course, the Nexus won't actually be outputting wireless charging, it will just be outputting power on the USB.
Note: Don't do this, it will drain the Nexus battery to accomplish not very much moto charging.
And for that matter, what does it matter if the WATCH runs dead if you have a PHONE in your pocket? Let it run dead!
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well the idea was as a travel thing, i have tons of ways to recharge through a cable but not wirelessly, so i could keep the nexus charged but the watch would run dead, if i could charge the watch with the phone i could keep them both charged... i guess it might be simpler to buy a qi station for traveling, XDA has gotten too lazy/argumentative for this to happen :crying:

i remember when xda people hard wired qi chargers to phones that didnt have the qi option...

reinaldistic said:
i remember when xda people hard wired qi chargers to phones that didnt have the qi option...
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That is hard wired directly into the battery contacts on the motherboard or to USB pinsfor power input only. Output is a whole different story.
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reinaldistic said:
well the idea was as a travel thing, i have tons of ways to recharge through a cable but not wirelessly, so i could keep the nexus charged but the watch would run dead, if i could charge the watch with the phone i could keep them both charged... i guess it might be simpler to buy a qi station for traveling, XDA has gotten too lazy/argumentative for this to happen :crying:
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Lazy? No. Don't insult us.
Use logic please. It is not a sound idea to implement on the device.
You might get away with using OTG to power the stock charger for the 360, but it will not be able to charge much at all. The device can only push a max of 500 mah, but for a proper charge, the moto 360 needs at least 1 full amp.

graydiggy said:
That is hard wired directly into the battery contacts on the motherboard or to USB pinsfor power input only. Output is a whole different story.
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Lazy? No. Don't insult us.
Use logic please. It is not a sound idea to implement on the device.
You might get away with using OTG to power the stock charger for the 360, but it will not be able to charge much at all. The device can only push a max of 500 mah, but for a proper charge, the moto 360 needs at least 1 full amp.
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Interesting, then why does the stock moto 360 charger output only 550mA?
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Edit: props for trying to give facts though, first I've seen from xda in a while
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That is interesting. When I had mine it said 1 amp output. However, it's still illogical because it would murder the phone battery. It's pointless to do because if you don't have your phone, your moto 360 is pretty much useless. I would suggest just getting a battery pack or a mobile qi charger.

graydiggy said:
That is interesting. When I had mine it said 1 amp output. However, it's still illogical because it would murder the phone battery. It's pointless to do because if you don't have your phone, your moto 360 is pretty much useless. I would suggest just getting a battery pack or a mobile qi charger.
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Omg I literally explained this 3-4 replies back. I have plenty of wired recharging solutions for the phone just no wireless ones for the watch:
I have a wired external battery and 6-10 wired wall/car chargers to carry around. So I would charge a moto 360 with 20% battery left with a nexus 6 that has lets say 80% left. Doing so brings the watch to 90% and the nexus at 10% then I use my external battery or a wall/car charger to charge the nexus back up. Is that so hard to grasp? Quit questioning the reasoning behind it, if you don't think it can be done DON'T REPLY there is no need to bury the one guy who can do it in a sea of "that's a dumb idea" and "that's impossible". I already own ALL THIS STUFF I don't want to buy another just to charge the watch on the fly. These phones are general purpose devices. They should and could do everything given the right hardware and software modifications. We've powered computing capabilities of satellites with a nexus how hard can it be to give it qi output?!
For crying out loud some of the users here seem to be here only to denigrate those who ask questions and suggest ideas!
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reinaldistic said:
Omg I literally explained this 3-4 replies back. I have plenty of wired recharging solutions for the phone just no wireless ones for the watch:
I have a wired external battery and 6-10 wired wall/car chargers to carry around. So I would charge a moto 360 with 20% battery left with a nexus 6 that has lets say 80% left. Doing so brings the watch to 90% and the nexus at 10% then I use my external battery or a wall/car charger to charge the nexus back up. Is that so hard to grasp? Quit questioning the reasoning behind it, if you don't think it can be done DON'T REPLY there is no need to bury the one guy who can do it in a sea of "that's a dumb idea" and "that's impossible". I already own ALL THIS STUFF I don't want to buy another just to charge the watch on the fly. These phones are general purpose devices. They should and could do everything given the right hardware and software modifications. We've powered computing capabilities of satellites with a nexus how hard can it be to give it qi output?!
For crying out loud some of the users here seem to be here only to denigrate those who ask questions and suggest ideas!
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Need a hardware engineer, phone repair tech and a soldering gun.

prdog1 said:
Need a hardware engineer, phone repair tech and a soldering gun.
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Got 2.25 of those things. I have access to a soldering iron and gun. I'm a repair tech in the military (not a phone tech but I've repaired several of my own phones so yeah). And I'm trained in, and teach, hardware operation, repair and theory... Don't dismiss people so easily. If anyone is reading this thread with serious interest please reply otherwise please refrain.
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Slow charging using USB laptop!

Hi guys. Is there anything that i could do to make my galaxy note 2 charging faster using a laptop? Charging using my laptop is soo slow! Help guys!
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That is the limit of usb on a computer. If you want a fast charge you need to charge off the wall.
Wait for kernels that pump up the charge. (not recommended)
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husain3d said:
Hi guys. Is there anything that i could do to make my galaxy note 2 charging faster using a laptop? Charging using my laptop is soo slow! Help guys!
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USB outputs about 900mA to charge devices with. Note 2 wall charger has a 2A output. Do the math.
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bootloopz said:
Wait for kernels that pump up the charge. (not recommended)
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What the hell difference is THAT going to make? :huh:
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USB outputs about 900mA to charge devices with. Note 2 wall charger has a 2A output. Do the math.
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What the hell difference is THAT going to make? :huh:
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If its a USB 2.0 port I think max is 500mA, USB 3.0 900mA
justinliu said:
If its a USB 2.0 port I think max is 500mA, USB 3.0 900mA
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True enough; I just gave the maximum amperage you can get out of USB. Probably should have been more specific.
Something like this might solve your issue...
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-USB2HAUBY1-Cable-External-Drive/dp/B0047AALW6
Not sure I would be willing to try it myself though.
Lol, yesterday I put it on charge at 20%, checked it after two and a half hours, and it was at 55%. I have USB 3.0 on my cabinet/MoBo, but just need to find out which one is it, but how do I do that?
This is a known issue on almost all Samsung phones that most people here aren't willing to acknowledge. The USB spec allows 500mA, but Samsung designs the recent phones to only pull 96mA. Apparently some of the modified kernels correct this.
Just be glad it's not like my old Samsung Focus. It would only pull 50mA which was less than the screen consumed. If the battery was totally dead, that phone was impossible to recharge via usb because it would auto-boot after you connected it, which would immediately consume the small charge it had acquired, thereby dying again.
Anything you charge off of a usb port will take forever.
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Markor13 said:
Anything you charge off of a usb port will take forever.
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Other brands of phone I've had seem to charge very quickly over usb. My laptops usb port will even give my ipad a full charge more quickly than my GS3.
Guys, try this. I have been using this for a few years now, works like a charm with everything, including iPads
http://event.asus.com/mb/2010/ai_charger/
elite-fusion said:
Guys, try this. I have been using this for a few years now, works like a charm with everything, including iPads
http://event.asus.com/mb/2010/ai_charger/
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Yes, that feature is included in a number of Asus devices, and it works really well. It's included in my Asus Sabretooth Z77 motherboard, and also on my Asus Diamond router (which has 2 USB sockets).
RandyKaoss said:
Yes, that feature is included in a number of Asus devices, and it works really well. It's included in my Asus Sabretooth Z77 motherboard, and also on my Asus Diamond router (which has 2 USB sockets).
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Why are you guys in such a hurry? I thought that it was best to charge the battery at the lowest possible amps - and the maximum should be 2amp/hour with the wall charger... so, as often as you can, charge the battery from usb, so that the battery lasts longer...?
- Bobo
Or just get a spare USB cable that you dont use to often. Short out pins 2 & 3 to force the phone into AC charge mode. You just wont be able to use that cable for data any more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=767961
I was thinking about doing this or at least purchasing one online, but not sure what needs to be done, do I short out the CABLE or do I short out a USB port on a car charge? I read on a different thread that a guy who drives for 30 minutes, increased his charge from 15% (unmodded) to 30-31% (modded) and I think he did this to the USB port in his car charger, but not sure
jujuburi said:
Lol, yesterday I put it on charge at 20%, checked it after two and a half hours, and it was at 55%. I have USB 3.0 on my cabinet/MoBo, but just need to find out which one is it, but how do I do that?
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USB3.0 ports usually have a blue coloration in the connector for easier identification
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RandyKaoss said:
Yes, that feature is included in a number of Asus devices, and it works really well. It's included in my Asus Sabretooth Z77 motherboard, and also on my Asus Diamond router (which has 2 USB sockets).
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Yes that's an advance that ASUS develop and it's included in their latest motherboards and laptops even in a few of their new monitors ASUS really rocks! and its not necessary to power on the device for charging gadgets
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I wish Samsung would just fix the problem to begin with.
If you're rooted I believe the Perseus kernel increases the USB charging rate to 900ma
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Pogo charger

Saw this on Android Central
Yah and he won't say where he got it.
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distortion said:
Yah and he won't say where he got it.
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:/
As for a question, is it possible to charge with both the Pogo Charger and USB, at the same time, for faster charging?
espionage724 said:
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As for a question, is it possible to charge with both the Pogo Charger and USB, at the same time, for faster charging?
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Now THAT is an interesting question.
Err, so release an actual charger later sold separately? I thought it was supposed to be a pogo dock...
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We've been hearing that they meant to ship that pogo charger with the tablet but something stopped them at the last minute.
My favorite theory? It's an awful lot like an Apple Mag Safe connector, and Apple would LOVE to get a sales ban if they thought they could make it stick. They'd screw both Google and Samsung at the same time and laugh the whole way. So I bet Google and/or Samsung decided not to risk it.
The other theory was that it was defective or didn't pass safety certification. Also likely.
But the one theory that I personally (and completely) reject is that they held back on it in order to make more money selling it as an accessory. Why? Because Samsung AND Google have a **** record in getting device accessories to market in a timely manner, for one thing. So they just don't end up selling that many, if they sell them at all (look at all the hard to find Nexus phone docks, car docks, cases, etc).
And I don't think they held it back to cut costs on the N10 since it's really only a few more pennies expensive than a USB to microUSB connector...same amount of wires, a little bit more plastic, and a couple of cheap magnets that plug into the SAME mains charger they already shipped with the device.
dmoney94 said:
Saw this on Android Central
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I think when it will become available all you gonna need is the special magnetic plug with the wire. No need new plug in adapter that goes to the wall ,that one on the picture is the original adapter came with the tablet same specs.
So than it should not be expensive!!
And I'm sure Google is aware of the issue.
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espionage724 said:
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As for a question, is it possible to charge with both the Pogo Charger and USB, at the same time, for faster charging?
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The pogo charger should be fast enough so at while you charging it you can use the USB for other things
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Croak said:
We've been hearing that they meant to ship that pogo charger with the tablet but something stopped them at the last minute.
My favorite theory? It's an awful lot like an Apple Mag Safe connector, and Apple would LOVE to get a sales ban if they thought they could make it stick. They'd screw both Google and Samsung at the same time and laugh the whole way. So I bet Google and/or Samsung decided not to risk it.
The other theory was that it was defective or didn't pass safety certification. Also likely.
But the one theory that I personally (and completely) reject is that they held back on it in order to make more money selling it as an accessory. Why? Because Samsung AND Google have a **** record in getting device accessories to market in a timely manner, for one thing. So they just don't end up selling that many, if they sell them at all (look at all the hard to find Nexus phone docks, car docks, cases, etc).
And I don't think they held it back to cut costs on the N10 since it's really only a few more pennies expensive than a USB to microUSB connector...same amount of wires, a little bit more plastic, and a couple of cheap magnets that plug into the SAME mains charger they already shipped with the device.
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Ops I did not see your post , but that make sense!
The charger in the pics above is labeled 5V/2A (10W) - the same as the travel charger that comes with the N10 - in fact it is labeled "travel adapter", so this IS the charger that comes with the N10.
I hope the pogo charger will have at least 5V/5A (25W) when they release it. Even a 5V/10A (50W) would not really be too strong for a 9000mAh battery.
Valynor said:
The charger in the pics above is labeled 5V/2A (10W) - the same as the travel charger that comes with the N10 - in fact it is labeled "travel adapter", so this IS the charger that comes with the N10.
I hope the pogo charger will have at least 5V/5A (25W) when they release it. Even a 5V/10A (50W) would not really be too strong for a 9000mAh battery.
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5V/2A feeding through the pogo charger should be fine.
2 amp chargers are what the Galaxy Tab/Note 10.1, the iPad1/2/3/4, Transformer, Xoom, etc use with similar sized batteries. Of course they're all mated to a higher-rated connector than microUSB.
A 2 amp charger should mean 2 hours from empty to fully charged, and enough current to throw a slower charge on while using the tablet.
I estimates for my nexus 10, it would take around 7-7.5 hours for a full charge
Croak said:
5V/2A feeding through the pogo charger should be fine.
2 amp chargers are what the Galaxy Tab/Note 10.1, the iPad1/2/3/4, Transformer, Xoom, etc use with similar sized batteries. Of course they're all mated to a higher-rated connector than microUSB.
A 2 amp charger should mean 2 hours from empty to fully charged, and enough current to throw a slower charge on while using the tablet.
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I don't know much about batteries, but in a mathematical point of view, shouldn't a 9Ah battery take 4,5 hours to fully charge if supplied with constant 2A? 2A * 4,5h = 9Ah
Valynor said:
The charger in the pics above is labeled 5V/2A (10W) - the same as the travel charger that comes with the N10 - in fact it is labeled "travel adapter", so this IS the charger that comes with the N10.
I hope the pogo charger will have at least 5V/5A (25W) when they release it. Even a 5V/10A (50W) would not really be too strong for a 9000mAh battery.
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But then couldn't we find a "generic" 5V/5A charger on like ebay or electronics store and just plug in the USB cable into it? Or heck even the Apple charger...
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Croak said:
5V/2A feeding through the pogo charger should be fine.
2 amp chargers are what the Galaxy Tab/Note 10.1, the iPad1/2/3/4, Transformer, Xoom, etc use with similar sized batteries. Of course they're all mated to a higher-rated connector than microUSB.
A 2 amp charger should mean 2 hours from empty to fully charged, and enough current to throw a slower charge on while using the tablet.
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iPad chargers are 5.1V/10A btw... And the iPad 3 still takes a lot longer to charge the the iPad2.
Croak said:
A 2 amp charger should mean 2 hours from empty to fully charged, and enough current to throw a slower charge on while using the tablet.
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I'm sorry but I fear physics are not on your side, young Padawan.
garciaw said:
I don't know much about batteries, but in a mathematical point of view, shouldn't a 9Ah battery take 4,5 hours to fully charge if supplied with constant 2A? 2A * 4,5h = 9Ah
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Yep. But a LiIon charging current always tapers off towards the end (last ~20%), so it will take longer than that.
G-Bus said:
But then couldn't we find a "generic" 5V/5A charger on like ebay or electronics store and just plug in the USB cable into it? Or heck even the Apple charger...
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In theory, yes. Maybe they limited the amount of current that can be applied via the micro USB port, though. I will not be the one to test it.
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But then couldn't we find a "generic" 5V/5A charger on like ebay or electronics store and just plug in the USB cable into it? Or heck even the Apple charger...
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iPad chargers are 5.1V/10A btw... And the iPad 3 still takes a lot longer to charge the the iPad2.
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I believe those chargers are 10 watts, not 10 amps.
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I believe those chargers are 10 watts, not 10 amps.
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Yea and the new ipad 4th come with a 12 watt i believe
I need one of these, got spoiled with how fast my old Xoom would charge. I'd likely end up buying two if I could, one as my home charger and extra cable to keep in my truck. I'm still glad the option of micro USB is on the Nexus too though.
Someone has already the nexus 10? That would clear all the questions...
I do, and indeed it takes almost 5 hours to charge, like they said, elemental physics.
I should receive an external battery with 3a, will try that, though I don't know if the 3a are supplied or if they are 2 plus 1
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rookiegenius said:
I estimates for my nexus 10, it would take around 7-7.5 hours for a full charge
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That's about right, I received mine yesterday with about a 65% charge, it took almost 4 hours to 100%. Granted it was on and downloading software with the screen on about half the time....
anyone find out where to buy one of these?

[Review] TechMatte USB 3.1 Type-C to Micro USB Adapter

Hey guys, just wanted to do a review on the TechMatte USB 3.1 Type-C to Micro USB Adapter! Since I don't have a standard USB to Type-C cable, I picked up a pack of two adapters. Though it's made of complete plastic, I feel it'll still be sturdy. It gets really snug with your micro USB cable and that's perfect, I've only been pulling buy the adapter when unplugging, don't want the connection between cable and adapter to become loose.
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I give this product a 9/10! Only taking a point off because when I use it with my portable charger, if I use it one way, it'll say "Charging Rapidly", but if I flip it, it'll say "Charging".
Ask me any questions that you have!
I bought a pair of these on Amazon. I'd give it more like an 8/10. Reason being that the fit and finish of the assembly isn't perfect, at least on mine. They work fine, but they have a huge logo (companies need to market, I get it, but logos are often overkill) on each one.
I can't really complain, they do the job and they're cheap. Good simple way to get connected to your older cables, I guess.
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I bought a pair of these on Amazon. I'd give it more like an 8/10. Reason being that the fit and finish of the assembly isn't perfect, at least on mine. They work fine, but they have a huge logo (companies need to market, I get it, but logos are often overkill) on each one.
I can't really complain, they do the job and they're cheap. Good simple way to get connected to your older cables, I guess.
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Mine fit really nicely, you don't like that they put the company name on their product?
EDIT: TechMatte representative, can you say anything about http://www.amazon.com/review/R2BM6NKTIB9J8Z/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm
this seems to be crucial!
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I have these but be careful, they don't follow USB C standards. So if you hook an adapter USB A connector to some old legacy port on a pc or wimpy charger, it may try to draw more power than the charger or port can handle and damage it (the port or adapter, not the phone)
A Google engineer has been handing all these knock off manufacturers their asses on Amazon about it.
Read Benson Leung's review of this adapter and other cables in the link below. Very interesting stuff.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member...age=1&sort_by=MostRecentReview#R2W2ODOBXHBD25
I'm waiting to hear back from TechMatte's xda representative to see what he has to say
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I ordered this before I saw the notes on the potential issues. Please let us know if you hear back from their representative. Thanks.
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I have these but be careful, they don't follow USB C standards. So if you hook an adapter USB A connector to some old legacy port on a pc or wimpy charger, it may try to draw more power than the charger or port can handle and damage it (the port or adapter, not the phone)
A Google engineer has been handing all these knock off manufacturers their asses on Amazon about it.
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IMO we want out of spec cables. How else will we hit anything above the max usb A spec of 2 A? Just need to make sure that the chargers support 3A.
That's fine as long as they warn you that it's out of spec, which of course they dont. Standards exist for a reason.
If I were them, Id sell it as a "feature" and warn folks to make sure they use a 2.4 amp+ charger and not a usb 1 or 2 port.
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IMO we want out of spec cables. How else will we hit anything above the max usb A spec of 2 A? Just need to make sure that the chargers support 3A.
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But that's the rub... you have a link to any charger that supports 3A that isnt Google OEM?
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That's fine as long as they warn you that it's out of spec, which of course they dont. Standards exist for a reason.
If I were them, Id sell it as a "feature" and warn folks to make sure they use a 2.4 amp+ charger and not a usb 1 or 2 port.
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Even with 2.4A you still risk a brown out and meltdown... albeit less so than using a 1A charger. But the risk is still just as real.
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But that's the rub... you have a link to any charger that supports 3A that isnt Google OEM?
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QTJZ3D0/ ?
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But that's the rub... you have a link to any charger that supports 3A that isnt Google OEM?
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Even with 2.4A you still risk a brown out and meltdown... albeit less so than using a 1A charger. But the risk is still just as real.
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Well, ****, I have a 2.4amp tronsmart usb-c charger coming in the mail. Should I cancel? They claim its the only real usb-c car charger at the moment. http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-Tec...8&sr=8-1&keywords=tronsmart+usb-c+car+charger
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QTJZ3D0/ ?
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It says its 2A
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It says its 2A
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Oh right, *5V/2.4A. I was confused since it's rated 18W, which would mean more than 3A at 5V. Didn't realize it could work at 7 or 12 volts.
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Well, ****, I have a 2.4amp tronsmart usb-c charger coming in the mail. Should I cancel? They claim its the only real usb-c car charger at the moment. http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-Tec...8&sr=8-1&keywords=tronsmart+usb-c+car+charger
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EDIT: Benson tested this one and says it is out of spec and he was surprised since the design has a fixed cable. Back to the drawing board.
No - that one is fine. The issue is a badly designed cable not adhering to allowed USB specs with a plug end that isnt USB type-C, failing to specify a pullup where it only charges at a rate that USB type-A or micro USB can handle (i.e. 2.4A max). If it tricks your phone to think you are connected to a true 3A source, it can burn out the charging source by pulling out too many amps. It works fine if you have a true 3A charger (which I have yet to see in any USB type-A format).
If a cable has the correct pullup to legacy USB standards, that would be equivalent to a safety valve for your charging device and it wouldnt be forced/tricked to push 3A.
So, for 3A charging, you need a true USB type-C cable at both ends going to a 3A charger (or direct mount). For any charging source with USB type-A, your known max is according to the old USB standard of 2.1A in most cases, although there are some type-A 2.4A options out there too.
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If your question is which charger is best meaning will get you the best charging speed from an A-C cable to your Nexus, it's a much harder to answer . It depends on the wattage output of the charger in question, and whether or not the phone is able to negotiate with the charger to get that highest wattage level.
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I'm happy to report that using Geoff Hoff's adb test, i saw that Avail curr from USB = 500. Geoff states that 3000 is a bad number and 500 & 1500 is the number you want to see. I'm using the combo of anker micro usb + techmatte adapter.
Can someone please educate me and what is this for I have lgv10 thanks
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I see that the user TechMatte Inc http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6510467 is currently suspended. That probably explains why the threads that they were giving these away in are gone.
Due to that I will most likely return these to Amazon and wait until an updated model comes out that is compliant with the USB C spec.
Wow I don't find that settling at that :/ I will ask for a refund
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I see that the user TechMatte Inc http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6510467 is currently suspended. That probably explains why the threads that they were giving these away in are gone.
Due to that I will most likely return these to Amazon and wait until an updated model comes out that is compliant with the USB C spec.
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Contact TechMatte through amazon directly... They are about to launch a new revision of these with full USB-C spec, and will send out replacements for the old ones free of charge. I just contacted them and all they needed was my shipping address to send out new ones.
It's a pity they messed up the first batch, but their customer service has really impressed me thus far.

Choetech 10W Wireless 3 Coil Charger Review

I will keep the original post updated in case I run into any issues or any other things I like about this product.
Packaging
The wireless charger came in a very nice slip cover box that was very well put together to protect the things that it came with. Included in the package was the charger itself, a 3ft. USB cable, a nice set of thorough directions. The only thing I did not like is that it does not come with it's own charging block because the fast charging block that comes with Samsung devices does not work for some reason. It does have to be a 18W charging block otherwise the pad will not charge your device in fast mode
The Charging Pad
The pad is very simple in design and is a very minimal footprint anywhere that you may put it. It only has on port on it, the power input. It would be nice if it had another USB power out on it, but in doing so would make the charging pad bigger in size. It does feature 4 rubber feet on the bottom of the pad that are supposed to help to keep it from slipping around and I found them to do their ob well on all but the smoothest of surfaces. The pad also includes a raised rubber design on the top to keep your phone from sliding off and I found that these actually did a very well at their job, with or without a case. Other than that it has a LED light on one corner that is very bright and easy to see at any time of the day, unless you use a larger phone such as me and then the phone covers the LED.
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The charging pad actually does a very good job at what it does. For such a small device I was actually getting very close to what a charging cable will apply to the phone with the stock charging block. I used two different apps, Ampre and Galaxy Charging Current to read the charge rate of my Samsung Galaxy s7 Edge. I will update this post later with actual charge times on my phone as it has been difficult to drain this battery and be able to keep and eye on it charging in one sitting.
Overall I really like the charging pad and can see myself using it for quite awhile. It does it a good job at what it was designed to do, but my only complaint is that it does not come with a charging block. This means that you have to use a fast charging one that came with your phone, unless it is a Samsung block, then you have to buy another one.
Thanks for the review.
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Fixed...was a minor mishap.?
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Fixed...was a minor mishap.
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You need to use a 18W QC 2.0/3.0 wall charger NOT the stock Samsung one because it's only 15.03W. The Samsung one will not allow the charger to provide the full 10W or function properly at all in most cases based on my testing.
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You need to use a 18W QC 2.0/3.0 wall charger NOT the stock Samsung one because it's only 15.03W. The Samsung one will not allow the charger to provide the full 10W or function properly at all in most cases based on my testing.
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That's why I had put that in my review. Thanks for looking out though.
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That's why I had put that in my review. Thanks for looking out though.
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I just wanted to add it in because I missed seeing that the first time I read through the OP. It might be a good ideal to bold that part?
Would this charger work, do you think?
https://www.anker.com/products/A2010111
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And does your phone state "fast wireless charging" when you use this charger?
qwertyuiop89 said:
Would this charger work, do you think?
https://www.anker.com/products/A2010111
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And does your phone state "fast wireless charging" when you use this charger?
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Yes it does
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Would this charger work, do you think?
https://www.anker.com/products/A2010111
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And does your phone state "fast wireless charging" when you use this charger?
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Since that's an 18W charger it will work
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I have two of the single coil models and they work great. Dimmer led, fast charge, and got them when they dropped to 12.99 each. Win!
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I like the 3 coil because I can have it in a ton of different positions without losing charge.
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I have been using this Choetech Fast Wireless Charger for a year now. Works great
https://youtu.be/dxOmxfdcRKk
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I have been using this Choetech Fast Wireless Charger for a year now. Works great
https://youtu.be/dxOmxfdcRKk
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I think they are going to be developing a 15w wireless charger here soon. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
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I think they are going to be developing a 15w wireless charger here soon. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
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I know Incipio made/releasing soon a 15W wireless charger. My main concern would be the large amount of heat generated by such a powerful wireless charger. I assume they would incorporate a fan of sort like Samsung did on their fasyout (~7.5W) fast charger. The fan seems to allow for a more stable charging rate than you would normally get without one as I noticed while testing each one.
Not really sure. Mine doesn't get hot at all on my choe tech 10w
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Not really sure. Mine doesn't get hot at all on my choe tech 10w
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Mine doesn't get any warmer than it does with the fast wired charger. I think a 15W wireless charger would generate enough heat for you to notice easily, but we will have to see.
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Does it charges as fast as the original Samsung wireless charger? Also, is it a reliable company? Since there are many wireless chargers but unknown brands
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Does it charges as fast as the original Samsung wireless charger? Also, is it a reliable company? Since there are many wireless chargers but unknown brands
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It chargers faster than Samsung's fast charger. I conducted s thorough test of ally chargers (1 more test coming tonight). You can read through my OP below:
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Just like to put my cohetech fast wireless charger in this thread.
This is the single coil plate, but doesn't suffer from placement as it is a large coil inside. So anywhere I put my note 5 on charges every time.
I used to have the round 3 coil charger but prefer this one as its a low profile and your phone covers up the LED whilst it's charging, and heck square is cool
Packaging is pretty my defacto with these products, minimal, compact and no wastage but it is packed really strong and no fear of it arriving broken up or damaged.
These are a little cheaper too than the 3 coil fast charger so it's a pretty good alternative to save a few pounds on something that will perform just as good.
I have the 3 coil one, but see it now says not compatible with the s7. Other ones say not to use the s7 adaptive charger but this now just seems to say not compatible at all. When on the pad there is a quiet clicking noise that worries me but the phone says it's fast charging and it appears to be doing so. However I have no experience of wireless charging and no desire to risk my nice new phone. Would be grateful for others experiences?
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Review of the 2016 Official Samsung QI Fast Wireless Charger for the Galaxy S7 Edge/

Hi Ram again with another review this time for the Official Samsung QI Wireless Fast Charger for the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge/S7/S6 Edge Plus and the Note 5 the 2016 Model. Click on the link below.
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So, Ram what case do you like the best for the S7 edge?
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So, Ram what case do you like the best for the S7 edge?
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That's a difficult one, at the moment I would say the evutec kevlar case in black. I am a sucker for different things. I also love the cover up wood back case's because they are all individual and most people won't have them. I enjoy cases that most people won't have. What about you?
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I'm from the U.S. and just picked this up at my local Verizon store a few days ago. I paid about US$70 for it, so roughly the same as your cost (according to Google's currency conversion, at least).
I was interested to learn that the U.K. model does not come with a power brick or cable. My unit came in a cardboard box which also contained a standard Samsung charging adaptor and cable, which were identical in every way to the ones that came in the box with my S7 Edge.
I envy you guys your superior Exynos-based models which can be unlocked and rooted, but in this case it sounds like the U.S. consumers are getting a better deal (although at these prices, it still isn't a bargain as far as I'm concerned).
I agree with your conclusion that it is a very nice charger for this flagship phone, if you're cool with the cost. I plan to keep mine.
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Cheers for the review. I was really tempted to get one of them despite the high price but I can't justify spending £50 if it doesn't come with a power plug & charging cable in the UK. Almost seems like Samsung are going down the less is more route that Apple likes.
BanziBaby said:
Cheers for the review. I was really tempted to get one of them despite the high price but I can't justify spending £50 if it doesn't come with a power plug & charging cable in the UK. Almost seems like Samsung are going down the less is more route that Apple likes.
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Get last year's version as performance is the same the only difference is no stand plus it's on Amazon for £15
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TJCacher said:
I'm from the U.S. and just picked this up at my local Verizon store a few days ago. I paid about US$70 for it, so roughly the same as your cost (according to Google's currency conversion, at least).
I was interested to learn that the U.K. model does not come with a power brick or cable. My unit came in a cardboard box which also contained a standard Samsung charging adaptor and cable, which were identical in every way to the ones that came in the box with my S7 Edge.
I envy you guys your superior Exynos-based models which can be unlocked and rooted, but in this case it sounds like the U.S. consumers are getting a better deal (although at these prices, it still isn't a bargain as far as I'm concerned).
I agree with your conclusion that it is a very nice charger for this flagship phone, if you're cool with the cost. I plan to keep mine.
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Your so lucky to get the charger with it. Can you post a picture of the packaging it came in? The packaging in the UK is so cheap like something you would buy in a dollar store
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ramheer said:
Your so lucky to get the charger with it. Can you post a picture of the packaging it came in? The packaging in the UK is so cheap like something you would buy in a dollar store
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Sure. Package is worse for the wear because I had to retrieve it from the bottom of my trash bin
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One more shot with the product itself:
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ramheer said:
That's a difficult one, at the moment I would say the evutec kevlar case in black. I am a sucker for different things. I also love the cover up wood back case's because they are all individual and most people won't have them. I enjoy cases that most people won't have. What about you?
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I've got a couple of custom leather flipcover-style cases coming from Piel Frama that I'll post pics of when they arrive early next week.
I bought some cases from them several years ago for an iPhone 4 and thought they were excellent.
Here's their english language website:
https://www.pielframa.com/en/index.htm
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ramheer said:
Get last year's version as performance is the same the only difference is no stand plus it's on Amazon for £15
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Cheers for the tip. I thought the previous version didn't have the correct fast charge internals to work with the S7 edge.
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Sure. Package is worse for the wear because I had to retrieve it from the bottom of my trash bin
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One more shot with the product itself:
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I've got a couple of custom leather flipcover-style cases coming from Piel Frama that I'll post pics of when they arrive early next week.
I bought some cases from them several years ago for an iPhone 4 and thought they were excellent.
Here's their english language website:
https://www.pielframa.com/en/index.htm
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Now look at the UK version
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BanziBaby said:
Cheers for the tip. I thought the previous version didn't have the correct fast charge internals to work with the S7 edge.
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Me to
But now how to make sure
That the old one same new one in charge time
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From what i've understand the wireless fast charge time is the same of the standard 5V/2A charge right?
Someone understood if this wireless fast charge is a 9V/1.67A that ruins the battery or the charger uses this 9V/1.67 only due to the power lost that we have with the wireless chargers?
Infact we have that with 5V/2A wall adaptor we have only a 5V/1A wireless charge ( so basically we lost 5W in heat ) with all the previous wireless chargers.
Here is the same? we have a 9V/1.67A charge that becomes a 5V/2A wirelessly? or is still a 9V and less ampere?
I'd be willing to pay the stupidly high prices for the samsung fast wireless chargers ($90/$130 for flat or stand versions), but at that price i'm not about to pay an extra $50 for a wall plug as well. $200 for a wireless charger? Piss off samsung.
I'll stick with my nokia $30 one which comes with a wall plug as well. (Sure it's not fast, but if i need to top up quickly i'll use the cable)
Currently on sale for $46.34 on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01BM...rger+stand&dpPl=1&dpID=41PpnYcQA-L&ref=plSrch
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From what i've understand the wireless fast charge time is the same of the standard 5V/2A charge right?
Someone understood if this wireless fast charge is a 9V/1.67A that ruins the battery or the charger uses this 9V/1.67 only due to the power lost that we have with the wireless chargers?
Infact we have that with 5V/2A wall adaptor we have only a 5V/1A wireless charge ( so basically we lost 5W in heat ) with all the previous wireless chargers.
Here is the same? we have a 9V/1.67A charge that becomes a 5V/2A wirelessly? or is still a 9V and less ampere?
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It does charge about as fast as a standard 5V/2A cable which is technically QC 1.0 if you want to give it a name. Wireless charging isn't very efficient as you know, but the input is only 15.03W at most, but it doesn't always take in the full 15W to utilize the fast charging. I've seen it go as low as 12W while still charging fast during different tests. This could be due to heat, case thickness etc. that would add in extra resistance while charging.
Thanks for the answer
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@ramheer Where did you get your charger from? I saw a few videos on youtube about fake fast wireless chargers & the packaging looks a bit like yours does in your video
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@ramheer Where did you get your charger from? I saw a few videos on youtube about fake fast wireless chargers & the packaging looks a bit like yours does in your video
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I bought mine from mobile fun, I have used them many times and I know they don't sell fakes, they are more expensive than Amazon and eBay but it gives me peace of mind.
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I bought mine from mobile fun, I have used them many times and I know they don't sell fakes, they are more expensive than Amazon and eBay but it gives me peace of mind.
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Was just wondering as there were quite a few bad reviews on Amazon saying they got fake versions & the videos showed packaging very much like your. I did notice in the comments section for that charger on MobileFun they originally had the price too high & then lowered it. It still £10 dearer than Amazon. Still waiting on my black candyshell grip case from them.

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