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Metadata via BT to car stereo

I'm not sure exactly which part of the phone handles this...so I guess this will be more of a "pick your brain" thread than anything. I have the LG Revolution, on GV 1.3. In my car, I have the Sony XNV-660BT head unit, that supports streaming BT audio. I've used it many times with Pandora and Google Music, and love it. I am able to play/pause/skip which is nice. Through some strange fluke last night, I played some music via the built-in music player, and WHAM! Metadata on screen of my stereo. Artist, Album and Track name were all there, which made the whole thing even more awesome. What I am trying to figure out is why Google Music and Pandora don't send the data, when the built-in player does? Is there something I need to enable? It seems odd Google would not have included that feature.

borborpa said:
I'm not sure exactly which part of the phone handles this...so I guess this will be more of a "pick your brain" thread than anything. I have the LG Revolution, on GV 1.3. In my car, I have the Sony XNV-660BT head unit, that supports streaming BT audio. I've used it many times with Pandora and Google Music, and love it. I am able to play/pause/skip which is nice. Through some strange fluke last night, I played some music via the built-in music player, and WHAM! Metadata on screen of my stereo. Artist, Album and Track name were all there, which made the whole thing even more awesome. What I am trying to figure out is why Google Music and Pandora don't send the data, when the built-in player does? Is there something I need to enable? It seems odd Google would not have included that feature.
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Thanks, now I have a new toy I want.

Glad I could oblige. ;-)
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Perhaps the head unit reads the information directly from the file? That would explain why it doesn't work for streamed music. I think.
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No, even if I play a local file in Google Music it doesn't send it. It looks like a standard limitation in Android's BT that LG must have spent a bit to get working, or used a different BT stack. Oh well...maybe when/if we get ICS ported it will correct this. The newest standard BT stack they are using supports 1.3.
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Can a group control music playlist like the Nexus Q could?

So the Nexus Q had the ability to allow multiple users to control the current music playlist, which I believed was a great feature. Has anyone got something like this working with the Chromecast dongle? Seems when I try to hook up another device (by hitting the cast button in Play Music), it stops the first from playing correctly and boots it off the dongle. Little bit of a let down. Maybe it will be something Google will add with updates.
Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WT0o1truK9w&t=237 This is the original presentation for the Nexus Q that shows off the functionality I am talking about.

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So the Nexus Q had the ability to allow multiple users to control the current music playlist, which I believed was a great feature. Has anyone got something like this working with the Chromecast dongle? Seems when I try to hook up another device, it stops the first from playing correctly. Little bit of a let down. Maybe it will be something Google will add with updates.
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Which music app are you casting from?
Youtube lets you add to queue.
I don't think there is a true Music casting app yet.

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Which music app are you casting from?
Youtube lets you add to queue.
I don't think there is a true Music casting app yet.
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Casting from the Play Music app. You wouldn't consider that a true music casting app?

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Casting from the Play Music app. You wouldn't consider that a true music casting app?
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My bad, Google play didn't have the cast button show up a few minutes ago so I thought it wasn't baked in yet.
I'll have to set up another music account to see because I don't believe I can't have more than 1 instance of G Music playing at once so just trying from another device won't cut it.

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Casting from the Play Music app. You wouldn't consider that a true music casting app?
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I think what he is saying is kind of what they demoed with the Netflix app, where multiple phone/tablets can control the music, and music queue, not just one device. Or in my case, control the music on two different phones with two different google accounts, but I don't even think that will be possible.

This is from the original Nexus Q presentation http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WT0o1truK9w&t=237. If you watch the next min or so you will see exactly what I am talking about. With the Nexus Q multiple people could access the queue in real time and play their own music from their Google Play Music cloud.

During the presentation he mentions multiple people being able to que things so it should work, haven't had a need to specifically test it though.

I own a Q and I can confirm that Chromecast does not work like the Q did when it comes to group queuing. When a second device is set to cast, the music will just stop.
One can then start playing from the second device and they will both be "connected" but in my experience if one tries to then play a song from the initial device it will give a "cannot play music requested" error.
Also, when both devices are connected the queue isn't in sync between devices like on the Nexus Q
However, if one is using the google cast chrome extension it will display the track playing and play/pause controls.
Hopefully this is just an early limitation and full sync will be enabled in the future.

I'm sure this will be added to function like the YouTube app with a shared queue that multiple devices can add songs to.

Chromecast and Google Music All Access

For those that have it, what do you think about it? Is it a nice way to stream music?

It's great since my 'good' speakers are attached to my TV. Works fast and easily.

It's OK. The on screen display is lacking and even though I've synced all my music to Google, some of my albums are side loaded and will not play through chromecast. I love all access for streaming on my phone, but I don't think it's there quite yet for chromecast.
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its fantastic. I keep no music on my phone and rely on streaming it. This is great for chromecast and I even talked my girlfriends parents into doing some upgrades to their sound system in their house since it goes through the whole house and outside which makes chromecast great for no longer having to go inside to change the music.

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its fantastic. I keep no music on my phone and rely on streaming it. This is great for chromecast and I even talked my girlfriends parents into doing some upgrades to their sound system in their house since it goes through the whole house and outside which makes chromecast great for no longer having to go inside to change the music.
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I'm having problems streaming to it with my Nexus 4.
I can connect and stream the first song with no problems, but when the screen sleeps it doesn't always stream to the next song.
50% of the time it'll automatically stream to the next song in the playlist if I manually turn the Nexus 4 screen back on.
30% of the time after I turn the screen back on, I'll get an error message that says "this track could not be played, and I'll have to manually select the next song"
20% of the time chromecast will be disconnected and I'll have to manually play the next song, and reconnect to chromecast.
Being a native Google App I had hoped that Google Music would work flawlessly, but it's been poor thus far. Hopefully an update will fix the issue.

I'm having issues too. I'm not sure why, but I keep getting "Playback error, Unable to play the song. Can't play a sideloaded song remotely."
So any music that is in the Google Music cloud AND on my device are not playable? I am not sure. I haven't been able to get Google Music to play from my phone - and if you use a PC, then the only way it seems is using the tab casting, which needs some polish.

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I'm having issues too. I'm not sure why, but I keep getting "Playback error, Unable to play the song. Can't play a sideloaded song remotely."
So any music that is in the Google Music cloud AND on my device are not playable? I am not sure. I haven't been able to get Google Music to play from my phone - and if you use a PC, then the only way it seems is using the tab casting, which needs some polish.
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The case of having the same song locally and on the music cloud not playing through ChromeCast seems to be a universal problem right now.
When I cast a tab and a video is being played inside the tab, I can't seem to get any sound to output through ChromeCast.
Another thing I tried was to drag and drop a local video file into Chrome and cast that tab. I just played a movie file that was .mp4 (.avi's don't won't), the video played (although a little slow on the framerate) but there was no sound at all.

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I'm having issues too. I'm not sure why, but I keep getting "Playback error, Unable to play the song. Can't play a sideloaded song remotely."
So any music that is in the Google Music cloud AND on my device are not playable? I am not sure. I haven't been able to get Google Music to play from my phone - and if you use a PC, then the only way it seems is using the tab casting, which needs some polish.
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Same issue here. This is a design flaw that I'm hoping Google will rectify with either a Google Music update or a Chromecast update.

EvoXOhio said:
Same issue here. This is a design flaw that I'm hoping Google will rectify with either a Google Music update or a Chromecast update.
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I found that playing music from the Google Music "cloud", as in NOT my music - works great. If it's in my library, does not play. I just signed up for the 30 day trial of Google Music All Access or whatever it is called, and I can now stream music to the ChromeCast.
Strange behavior for sure.

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I found that playing music from the Google Music "cloud", as in NOT my music - works great. If it's in my library, does not play. I just signed up for the 30 day trial of Google Music All Access or whatever it is called, and I can now stream music to the ChromeCast.
Strange behavior for sure.
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It will stream anything as long as there isn't a copy of it on your phone.

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It will stream anything as long as there isn't a copy of it on your phone.
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I have a few thousand songs pinned to my phone and they all cast fine.

Echodawg/arrghh,
I have had this issue. It depends on how you have it setup.
If you have everything uploaded to Google Music cloud and then if you copy the files over to your phone as well and try to play those songs, it will not play and give you a 'Cannot play sideloaded songs' message.
For this to work, you should NOT copy any songs from your computer to the phone directly, you can and should ONLY 'pin' it....

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I have a few thousand songs pinned to my phone and they all cast fine.
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I'm talking about songs that you've manually loaded onto your phone. Not cached/pinned copies of googles music.

EvoXOhio said:
I'm talking about songs that you've manually loaded onto your phone. Not cached/pinned copies of googles music.
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Ah. I see.
Why not just upload and pin?
I have mine pinned to my SD card, 40 gigs or so.
Works great!

Echodawg said:
Ah. I see.
Why not just upload and pin?
I have mine pinned to my SD card, 40 gigs or so.
Works great!
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Unless something has changed recently, pinned songs get deleted from the phone every time you flash a new ROM. I go back and forth between cm and pa and stock. I don't want to have to download 5gb of music every time.

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Unless something has changed recently, pinned songs get deleted from the phone every time you flash a new ROM. I go back and forth between cm and pa and stock. I don't want to have to download 5gb of music every time.
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I pin to extSD + Titanium Backup.
And upload once and done, you can side load your music on the phone, but you could then access it in Gmusic too.

Echodawg said:
I pin to extSD + Titanium Backup.
And upload once and done, you can side load your music on the phone, but you could then access it in Gmusic too.
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I've tried that. The issue I have is that when I load a new ROM, the first time it boots up and Google music runs in the background it wipes the pinned songs. Titanium backup doesn't actually backup the pinned songs so not sure what you mean there.

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The case of having the same song locally and on the music cloud not playing through ChromeCast seems to be a universal problem right now.
When I cast a tab and a video is being played inside the tab, I can't seem to get any sound to output through ChromeCast.
Another thing I tried was to drag and drop a local video file into Chrome and cast that tab. I just played a movie file that was .mp4 (.avi's don't won't), the video played (although a little slow on the framerate) but there was no sound at all.
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Yeah I can vouch for this issue too. I sync a list of podcasts to my phone through iSyncr, and the same podcasts also get synced to the cloud via iTunes/Google Play. On my phone, any synced podcast won't cast because it's sideloaded, even though the same podcast is already in the cloud. On my tablet, which I don't store local music on, I can launch the same podcast and it does cast to Chromecast.
As for All Access - there was an overlap of a few days between my free trial and getting Chromecast, and it did work nicely. However I was under the mistaken impression that signing up for the free trial of All Access before June 30 would give me a lifetime discount. I did not realize I'd have to maintain a continuous subscription. So I cancelled at the end of the free trial and no more discount for me. I will probably not sign up again as I anticipate other music apps becoming Chromecast-compatible soon.

I see an update to Google Play Music available.
v.5.1.1107k
*Chromecast improvements
Hopefully it fixed the problems we've been having

I see the update in Play Store but no update button. Tried uninstalling updates and then updating, but I still have the previous build. Guess it hasn't "rolled out" to my accounts yet.
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Google Home App Control

I’m new to the google home deal but I have purchased 6 minis to cover most of the house. My question is can I control pandora from my phone vs using voice controls to do everything. Would just prefer skipping tracks or changing stations visually if possible. Any insight would be great. Thank you.
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When you open Pandora (Connected to WiFI), there should be a cast icon for you to connect to your Google Home.

MrGrim said:
When you open Pandora (Connected to WiFI), there should be a cast icon for you to connect to your Google Home.
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You did it my friend. Thank you.
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anthony.laizure. said:
You did it my friend. Thank you.
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Anytime!

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Anytime!
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Now what about playing a pandora premium account playlist by voice command?
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anthony.laizure. said:
Now what about playing a pandora premium account playlist by voice command?
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This was taken straight from the Google Home support site HERE
1. Play personalized radio from Pandora say: "Play my shuffle", "Play my shuffle radio"
2. Play personalized radio based on songs you've thumbed on Pandora say: "Play my Thumbprint radio"
Note: To play your thumbprint radio, you must have saved several stations and thumbed up several songs in order for Pandora to understand what you like.
3. Play playlist say: "Play classic country", "Play <Pandora station name>"
4. Like/Dislike a song from Pandora say: "Thumbs up", "Thumbs down", "I like this song"

MrGrim said:
This was taken straight from the Google Home support site HERE
1. Play personalized radio from Pandora say: "Play my shuffle", "Play my shuffle radio"
2. Play personalized radio based on songs you've thumbed on Pandora say: "Play my Thumbprint radio"
Note: To play your thumbprint radio, you must have saved several stations and thumbed up several songs in order for Pandora to understand what you like.
3. Play playlist say: "Play classic country", "Play <Pandora station name>"
4. Like/Dislike a song from Pandora say: "Thumbs up", "Thumbs down", "I like this song"
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Unfortunately that doesn’t work. No matter what I say or name the playlist it will not do it unless I start it from the phone. Which I’m fine with that but if I walk out of my WiFi zone it changes.
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anthony.laizure. said:
Unfortunately that doesn’t work. No matter what I say or name the playlist it will not do it unless I start it from the phone. Which I’m fine with that but if I walk out of my WiFi zone it changes.
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Are you from the United States? I'm reading on the support site that it's US Only. If you are then I'm not sure. I use Spotify and it works flawlessly.

Yes in the US. I’m not sure I’ve tried every combo of words I can think of that would trigger it with no luck.
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Streaming music

Hi guys
I have GW3 LTE.
Is there any possibility to stream music (any service) directly from the watch without a phone connection ?
I dont mean play downloaded music but direct streaming.
I need it for jogging without my phone and i dont want to download it previously .
Thanks

Have you tried Spotify?

I also have used Spotify and it worked very good for my usage...

Use the web browser to go to your favorite station and stream it that way. I've done it with Soma FM stations but doing so depletes the battery relatively quickly.

Spotify doesn't work without the phone....

zambara said:
Spotify doesn't work without the phone....
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Supposedly you can with premium. But, I use iGear Radio pro. You can manage the stations online and play radio stations thru the data connection on your watch without a Bluetooth connection to your phone

You can use Galaxy Audio Player. It have function to play streams https://galaxystore.samsung.com/geardetail/FTUDba5gYD

You can do with Spotify but with the premium version. Unfortunately, you cannot do that with the free one. I knew a few programs and I have one I am currently working on. I am a sound designer and software developer and I am currently working on a new project where I try to implement cool sounds made using some free VST plugins. My main concept is making a good playlists (user editable) which will be streamed 24/7 online so the users don't need to download them but just listen directly from their portable devices.