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Push email that actually works

Guys,
I have to say Emansio push email works flawlessy - I have tried them all Emoze, mobiPush god knows what else but emansio really delivers
Just thought I would mention it as I was getting frustrated trying to find something decent that worked great with diamond, yahoo, gmail combo...
MODS sorry thought I posted this in Diamong Home forum not ROM Development....

This might be a stupid question - why didn't you just get an exchange account and use ipush email the way it was designed ?? Some exchange accounts can give you pop/imap account checking/forwarding aswell.

Where do you get an exchange account?

CutePinkSox said:
Guys,
I have to say Emansio push email works flawlessy - I have tried them all Emoze, mobiPush god knows what else but emansio really delivers
Just thought I would mention it as I was getting frustrated trying to find something decent that worked great with diamond, yahoo, gmail combo...
MODS sorry thought I posted this in Diamong Home forum not ROM Development....
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so you think Emansio works for you? I have used Emoze and still using it, but it is so buggy and I am thinking of changing.

helpme said:
so you think Emansio works for you? I have used Emoze and still using it, but it is so buggy and I am thinking of changing.
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Yeah it works really well and is very lightweight - I too tried emoze but exscuse the term it's a bit (cough) sh!*t.
Emansio so far has been flawless for me... I highly recommend it!

gaz_az said:
This might be a stupid question - why didn't you just get an exchange account and use ipush email the way it was designed ?? Some exchange accounts can give you pop/imap account checking/forwarding aswell.
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I could do but let me explain I have to email accounts:
1x Hotmail - which is push enabled anyway as per any hotmail account with a little tinkering
1x Googlemail which is my primary email address - I also use google calendar and contacts.
So Emansio is pushing Googlemail and OggSync is syncing Google Calender and contacts... this seems so far a flawless combo with hardly any overheads in terms of memory and CPU.
I am not that familiar with exchange - will exchange cater to all my needs?

I use mail2web which has been excellent. I get hotmail and yahoo mail to forward emails to my mail2web account and then this gets pushed to my phone. It syncs calendar, mail, contacts and tasks. Calendar, Contacts and Tasks are then periodically synced to my PC outlook via activesync and so all is in sync. The basic service is free, but there are other services where you have to pay. Not very expensive.
Don't know whether google calendar would sync through this though. You'd have to check.

marisa4755 said:
I use mail2web which has been excellent. I get hotmail and yahoo mail to forward emails to my mail2web account and then this gets pushed to my phone. It syncs calendar, mail, contacts and tasks. Calendar, Contacts and Tasks are then periodically synced to my PC outlook via activesync and so all is in sync. The basic service is free, but there are other services where you have to pay. Not very expensive.
Don't know whether google calendar would sync through this though. You'd have to check.
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How?
How is this possible with Hotmail??

Sorry for being such and idiot but I have some questions:
1. Is pushing email free?
2. What is the procedure of push email, what i mean is how does it actually work?
Thanks a bunch fellas.

Go to windows live on your pc and sign in to your live (hotmail) account, then on the top right hand side there is 'options', at the bottom of that list there is 'more options', under the heading Manage your account, one of the options is 'forward to another email account'

Sergio PC said:
Sorry for being such and idiot but I have some questions:
1. Is pushing email free?
2. What is the procedure of push email, what i mean is how does it actually work?
Thanks a bunch fellas.
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1. It depends, some exchange hosts charge a monthly charge, some like mail2web have both free and charged services. However, you obviously have to pay for the data, just like any other kind of data service. If you are on an unlimited data tariff, this won't worry you.
2. No idea how it works (I don't know how my car works either, just as long as it goes when I turn the key I don't care)!

Hotmail Push email
darthbane2k said:
How?
How is this possible with Hotmail??
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Basically sign into windows live on your Diamond then goto options choose "sync schedule" then set it to "as items arrive" and volia free push hotmail...

The advantage of doing this will mail2web is that you can get all your mail pushed to you from all your accounts. Saves fiddling about with lots of mail boxes on the device. But I'm sure some people would prefer to keep them separate.

Presumably for proper push mail to work the software will need to maintain a data connection all the time? Is this the case with Emansio, and does it drain the battery a lot more?
At the moment I just use google and its imap settings in messaging with it connecting every 30 mins.

v64 said:
Presumably for proper push mail to work the software will need to maintain a data connection all the time? Is this the case with Emansio, and does it drain the battery a lot more?
At the moment I just use google and its imap settings in messaging with it connecting every 30 mins.
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Same concern!

Call me dumb, but I use yahoo mail and every time I get a new email it pops up on my email tab, I've set it to check every hour, you can set it for less if you get more emails than me(5 x pink diet patch and 20 x penis extension, both not required). I have a nice unlimited data plan but why would anyone who has a diamond not? If you have a diamond in my opinion you must have an unlimited data plan, otherwise you are just not getting the full benefits of such a beautiful device and should roll back to the awesome old magician.

Yes it can drain battery...
You shoudn't have push email just for the sake of having it...
...yes Emansio always maintains a constant data connection as does push Hotmail... and naturally this will shorten the battery life somewhat in addition to that if you don't have an unlimited data plan then your fooked... but if your out and about and regularly use email for business or personal then push email is for you.
I stop it when I am out shopping etc as there is no need for it but if I need to be contacted easily via email then I activate Emansio.
For those who wan't to find out how it works... cmon guys you have the net and presumably a Diamond with Opera LOL - www.google.com need I say more.
OggSync is great for Google Calendar BTW

This is also new out in beta for those wanting to sync google mail and calendar. Don't know anything about it but might help someone.
http://www.nuevasync.com/

Hi,
Nuevasync looks interesting: Unfortunately it's not supporting email yet.
Emansio: Agree, it's the only push plugin which works fine (e.g. in sleep mode etc). BUT: It's expensive and it ssupports the main email folder only. The meaning of Imap is having the folder structure on the server, so I expect such a tool to inform about every new email in every folder I subscribed to.
According to Emansio support this feature is currently worked on and might be available later in 2008.
Cheers,
Kingshill

CutePinkSox said:
Yeah it works really well and is very lightweight - I too tried emoze but exscuse the term it's a bit (cough) sh!*t.
Emansio so far has been flawless for me... I highly recommend it!
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correct me if I am wrong but Emansio only support push mail but not calanda and contact, right?

Sprint - Push E-mail options

Hello all,
I've now had my TP for almost 3 months and am truly loving it. As you might know, I was a TOTAL noob to WinMo, and in regards to some of the more advanced things, I still am.
This brings me to my topic:
I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook allows for "Push" e-mail on to the TP. If not, what recommended E-mail systems are out there that can push to the TP (i.e. gmail, hotmail, yahoo)?
I am currently using Comcast, and was considering going the Mail2Web route, but it seemed too confusing...I know, I'm a moron. (As for "Seven", I've heard it's not yet stable and it severly taxes the battery.) As such, if anybody who has had success with Mail2Web and the Touch Pro, would you mind posting (or PMing) "step-by-step" instructions on how you got it working?
In either case, I also ask the more experienced people if you can either tell me or direct me to a site which explains the whole concept of Outlook, Exchange, and other elements of Push e-mail.
Thank you in advance,
- WildAce786.

Try seven.com you'll love it.

DrzNight said:
Try seven.com you'll love it.
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LOL, I was just editing that into my OP.
I've heard it's not stable yet in that there is a delay in receiving E-mails and that it places a large drain on your battery.

WildAce786 said:
LOL, I was just editing that into my OP.
I've heard it's not stable yet in that there is a delay in receiving E-mails and that it places a large drain on your battery.
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Although it is still in a beta stage I don't think it unstable at all and emails at least for me being pushed from gmail come within 2 seconds. I can't disagree that it will take a toll on your battery but that's the price we pay for push email. If anyone has any other suggestions I'd also be glad to know.

WildAce786 said:
Hello all,
I've now had my TP for almost 3 months and am truly loving it. As you might know, I was a TOTAL noob to WinMo, and in regards to some of the more advanced things, I still am.
This brings me to my topic:
I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook allows for "Push" e-mail on to the TP. If not, what recommended E-mail systems are out there that can push to the TP (i.e. gmail, hotmail, yahoo)?
.... As such, if anybody who has had success with Mail2Web and the Touch Pro, would you mind posting (or PMing) "step-by-step" instructions on how you got it working?
In either case, I also ask the more experienced people if you can either tell me or direct me to a site which explains the whole concept of Outlook, Exchange, and other elements of Push e-mail.
Thank you in advance,
- WildAce786.
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I use Mail2Web. It's easy to setup, just go to Activesync and add a server and use:
[email protected] (as the username)
ur password
and skip the auto detect the server step and use:
mobile.exchange.mail2web.com (as the server)
**Note-I don't use mail2web as my email, I use gmail. And what I did was set my gmail account to foward to the mail2web account, so I get the emails pushed from both. However, the outgoing email address it shows, when I send a message is the mail2web account.
I've been using this for a while, and it works pretty good. I get email notifications pretty much instantly with this setup, and also syncs my contacts, calendar and tasks online for easy backing up

steb0ne said:
I use Mail2Web. It's easy to setup, just go to Activesync and add a server and use:
[email protected] (as the username)
ur password
and skip the auto detect the server step and use:
mobile.exchange.mail2web.com (as the server)
**Note-I don't use mail2web as my email, I use gmail. And what I did was set my gmail account to foward to the mail2web account, so I get the emails pushed from both. However, the outgoing email address it shows, when I send a message is the mail2web account.
I've been using this for a while, and it works pretty good. I get email notifications pretty much instantly with this setup, and also syncs my contacts, calendar and tasks online for easy backing up
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I would like to keep 3rd party sources as a second option.
First, I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook has the ability to Push E-mail to the TP without severly draining the battery.
Now, if that is not an option, then I would like some clarification on the Mail2Web process.
1) Do I need to register with mail2web first?
2) When you said
go to Activesync and add a server
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, where exactly is Activesync located and how can I go about adding a server to it?
I know I sound like a moron, but that's because in this matter, I am.

another option is EMOZE. Its a good alternative to seven if you just care about emails. it really dont do the contacts too well and calendar not at all. again good app if you just care about getting your gmail emails....

Well, after a lot of searching, I went ahead with steb0ne's idea of using Mail2Web LIVE. So far it works great, especially since I've set all my comcast e-mails to autoforward to the M2W account so I can receive them "instantly" as well.
I do have a few concerns though that maybe a few of you guys can address:
1) How does Direct Push actually work? Does it establish a connection every so often looking for new messages?
2) Generally speaking, how much battery life does it drain during the course of a normal 8-hour day if I keep Direct Push active in the Comm. Manager?
3) How good is M2W at keeping SPAM messages away?

I have used seven, mail2web, and the sprint mobile email app. I prefer mail2web over the others. The sprint app is based on the seven email program, but only allows for one email address.
With the seven program I have noticed a noticeable lag in receiving my email. I have sent an email to the an account, received in on my desktop and still dont get it for up to 10min on my phone. With Mail2web I usually get it on my phone before the computer, also the online system they use will save all of your contacts, calender so you can access it from your phone or computer, as well as have an easy backup if you lose your phone, or do a hard reset.

So if I use seven, which they and Sprint say my TP is not supported, does it still send from my email addy or some seven.com email?
for me its all but useless to just get email if I cant send it.

when i try to set up active sync i put details in , user pass server, there is a field "domain" which i cannot get past unless i put something in it , trying to use mobipush and their directions are to leave domain blank but if i do i cant progress on my screen the next button wont highlight, any ideas

[Q] Connecting to enterprise domain email requires certain security features to be on

So my company's corporate email requires certain security features on my phone be enabled when you connect to it via the mail app. I'm guessing this is exchange.
It requires my lock screen to be pin-protected. It also has a disclaimer that they can access my phone remotely and delete email.
I don't like this feature at all. Is there a way to "trick" the network into thinking my phone actually has these security features enabled when they really aren't? I just want to be able to pull mail down and read it, I don't want the network to have access to my phone remotely in any way, shape, or form. I also don't want the network requiring any sort of configuration on my phone.
Thanks in advance!

You can try this .apk
I dont think its a bad feature especially if you lose your phone you can wipe it via your exchange server. I have that option via my OWA

crusecontrl said:
You can try this .apk
I dont think its a bad feature especially if you lose your phone you can wipe it via your exchange server. I have that option via my OWA
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Thanks for the help. I'm supposed to install this on my Captivate? I have mine rooted using Cognition, but for some reason I can't install it from Astro, it seems like Astro thinks it is already installed and just allows me to run it. When I run it, it looks exactly like the Android Mail app. Is this accurate?
Also when I setup the exchange account, it says this account needs to remotely control some security features of the phone. Do I allow this? Does the program fake the network into thinking that it has control over those features when it really doesn't?
I just need some help understanding how I'm supposed to use this. Thanks.

Goto your system/app folder and drop the apk in there. Reboot and then reload your settings. I believe it does bypass the security like you say. Accept the prompts as well.
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Exchange Mail Issue

I have two ActiveSync exchange accounts I need to set up...one sets up fine (no domain) but the other continues to error out. They are the same settings I used on my Droid Charge for the two weeks I had it, the same settings I used on my G2 for the year I had it, and even works in Touchdown on the D3, but not on the standard software on the phone...
Anybody else successfully setup an exchange account with domain?

Code3VW said:
I have two ActiveSync exchange accounts I need to set up...one sets up fine (no domain) but the other continues to error out. They are the same settings I used on my Droid Charge for the two weeks I had it, the same settings I used on my G2 for the year I had it, and even works in Touchdown on the D3, but not on the standard software on the phone...
Anybody else successfully setup an exchange account with domain?
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I set mine up with domain, as I did a thousand times on Tbolt. Piece of cake. Immediately go into manual of course and go from there. I have not set up two accounts however.

Are you using a self signed SSL certificate? I'm waiting back for official word from Motorola, but I think the Droid 3 doesn't support it, which makes no sense since every other droid has (and Android in general).
I fear for what Blur is going to do to this phone.

lol, the blur on this phone is better than any android skin or aosp... by far.... and i'm coming from a DX and hate blur.

I've had a droid since day one, I can't wait to get asop or cyanogen running on this. I love the hardware and speed of the phone, but after running cyanogen the last 1+ years, its hard to live with the stock moto blur

I agree, cant wait to get CM on this. The bloatware sucks, and although the phone is fast I know it would be a lot faster on CM....
for now though, I'm actually not annoyed with blur (yet)

neonerz said:
Are you using a self signed SSL certificate? I'm waiting back for official word from Motorola, but I think the Droid 3 doesn't support it, which makes no sense since every other droid has (and Android in general).
I fear for what Blur is going to do to this phone.
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I'm not sure, I just know that SSL is needed for the account settings to work, and that my account works fine in Touchdown, but when I set it up in the stock "email" app, it errors out. And yes, I'm connecting manually and inputting the correct server address...

Code3VW said:
I'm not sure, I just know that SSL is needed for the account settings to work, and that my account works fine in Touchdown, but when I set it up in the stock "email" app, it errors out. And yes, I'm connecting manually and inputting the correct server address...
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Im getting the same issue, trying to load up my regular email account.
I manually put all the right values in, as I have in the desktop email program, thunderbird, to no avail.
Anyone got a clue what is wrong?

I was able to sync my work exchange account no problem, went pretty easy.
What are you guys trying to connect to?
Exchange Server ? Do you know what version?

lordgodgeneral said:
I was able to sync my work exchange account no problem, went pretty easy.
What are you guys trying to connect to?
Exchange Server ? Do you know what version?
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Just my regular ISP's email account.

UPDATE: Went to my ISP's site for instructions. Seems on the android, Mediacom wants secure authentication to retrieve emails.
Thunderbird doesn't require that to log in, for some reason.

Touchdown, which works with this account on the D3 btw, says this:
Connection Mode: ActiveSync ONLY
"Uses SSL" and "Fetch and trust certificate (not recommended)" are both checked.
When I go to Refresh ActiveSync Settings in Touchdown it says:
Versions:Microsoft-IIS/7.0,1.0,2.0,2.1,2.5,12.0,12.1
Policies:SET

Again, this email account has been properly setup on:
Droid Charge running 2.2
T-Mobile G2 running CM7 and CM6
T-Mobile MyTouch Slide running CM7
Yet, when I put in the settings into EMAIL on the Droid 3 it comes back with "Error: Count not connect to server."

Ive noticed one thing with exchange emails the last couple days and wanted to see if others were having it.
Has anyone had emails cut off, like its only loading some of the message. I get daily email updates on some xda threads, and it seems if they are very long it cuts it off and you can't read the whole message. Didn't have this problem on my old droid so must be something in motorolas new setup.

lordgodgeneral said:
Ive noticed one thing with exchange emails the last couple days and wanted to see if others were having it.
Has anyone had emails cut off, like its only loading some of the message. I get daily email updates on some xda threads, and it seems if they are very long it cuts it off and you can't read the whole message. Didn't have this problem on my old droid so must be something in motorolas new setup.
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I've seen it, but I'm not seeing it right now when I check my email. Perhaps I changed a setting but I do remember having to select something to see the rest of the email.

Should i contact motorola?? Why should i have to pay $20 for touchdown because they put a defective email client on the phone?

Code3VW said:
Should i contact motorola?? Why should i have to pay $20 for touchdown because they put a defective email client on the phone?
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Motorola's software isn't defective and works as intended. The corporate sync doesn't trust self signed certificates. But there are ways to work around this and later set the account to not verify it's certificates. First you need to either setup the account while on wifi on the same network or setup activesync to answer http requests. Meaning allow insecure connections. Once you do this you can setup the account insecurely, then goto settings -> accounts -> the email account in question and deselect the verify certificates option. Yes I agree that motorola is a pain for doing this, but the device is actually more secure disallowing self signed certificates.

I have to use K-9 Mail for my corporate, since Motorola doesn't support self-signed certificates.

spruleme said:
Motorola's software isn't defective and works as intended. The corporate sync doesn't trust self signed certificates. But there are ways to work around this and later set the account to not verify it's certificates. First you need to either setup the account while on wifi on the same network or setup activesync to answer http requests. Meaning allow insecure connections. Once you do this you can setup the account insecurely, then goto settings -> accounts -> the email account in question and deselect the verify certificates option. Yes I agree that motorola is a pain for doing this, but the device is actually more secure disallowing self signed certificates.
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I cannot setup the account while on the same wifi network, as there is no wifi allowed on that network. How do I "setup activesync to answer http requests?" Thanks for the above info and your help in the future with this.

If its any conciliation I cannot get my work mail to sync regardless of allowing or disallowing the self signed certificate. I will have to try it over WiFi to see if that helps, and I wasn't trying to use exchange either.
I do however consider the mail client defective as I did not have this issue on previous Moto Android 2.2 devices.

[Q] Email not syncing (reproducible)

Coming from iPhone, I love the hardware. But, OS still seems to have some glitches. My biggest issue right not is email. My work email provides IMAP push IDLE, and never had problem with iPhone having email pushed immediately into my inbox.
Samsung or Android default email has been nothing but a headache. I've checked all the settings concerning sync include data usage > sync, etc, but the email will not sync. The funny thing is if I clear cash/data and reboot, reset the email account, PUSH will work for about 2-3 hours, then stops. It won't even pull by interval, and the only way to receive new email is to manually sync.
I've done it a number of times, and it always works for about a few hours, then simply stops. I've checked off peak schedule and any other settings that might interfere with push.
This is year 2013, and I cannot believe that a flagship android phone cannot push email consistently. This is true with my GMAIL as well. Is anyone else having the same issue? Doing a quick search, it seems like many people are having the same issue, and have given up. Having email pushed immediately is a very important feature for me, and I can't imagine android OS that's been around for many years hasn't figured this out. There seems to be no support from Samsungs's end.
If anyone can shed light, I'd really apprecaite it.

+1. I am using an LG G2 instead and all emails sync in real time with Push, no issues at all. However, on the N3 it just will not work, even after changing all the sync schedules and settings. If anyone know how to work around this, it would be awesome.

verendus said:
This is year 2013, and I cannot believe that a flagship android phone cannot push email consistently.
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Agreed. Mine shows the same symptoms. It's like amateur night at the clown college of software engineers.
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There seems to be no support from Samsungs's end.
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Actually, it seems push email support is just a rumor, and Samsung denies it.
What an embarrassment.

I don't get why is there a Push option if it doesn't work.. I thought it was a bug.

I've heard good things about K9 mail client from the Play Store and it has push functionality.

verendus said:
Coming from iPhone, I love the hardware. But, OS still seems to have some glitches. My biggest issue right not is email. My work email provides IMAP push IDLE, and never had problem with iPhone having email pushed immediately into my inbox.
Samsung or Android default email has been nothing but a headache. I've checked all the settings concerning sync include data usage > sync, etc, but the email will not sync. The funny thing is if I clear cash/data and reboot, reset the email account, PUSH will work for about 2-3 hours, then stops. It won't even pull by interval, and the only way to receive new email is to manually sync.
I've done it a number of times, and it always works for about a few hours, then simply stops. I've checked off peak schedule and any other settings that might interfere with push.
This is year 2013, and I cannot believe that a flagship android phone cannot push email consistently. This is true with my GMAIL as well. Is anyone else having the same issue? Doing a quick search, it seems like many people are having the same issue, and have given up. Having email pushed immediately is a very important feature for me, and I can't imagine android OS that's been around for many years hasn't figured this out. There seems to be no support from Samsungs's end.
If anyone can shed light, I'd really apprecaite it.
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Not really helpful to your scenario, but I haven't had problems with push notifications using the baked in email client or with gmail.
Base email is tied via IMAP to an account on a webmail server I run.
Gmail is tied to my corporate google apps account.
Rooted on N900AUCUBMI1 baseband here.
Not that you should need a root to get this functionality, but maybe it would help?
Which baseband are you on? Maybe Push is broken in the newer build.

I've had trouble running stock on MI9, then rooted on MI1 and MI9. The type of email client doesn't seem to matter.

Odd. I am using Gmail for a few mail accounts and get quick delivery and all works fine. I have not tried the baked in email client on my Note 3, but I use it (with exchange) on my Note 2 without issue.
I guess instant mail delivery on my personal accounts isn't that critical to me but I can feel your pain.
If you are rooted, have you disabled any apps even remotely related to email?
If you are using gmail, do you have IMAP enabled within the Web client?
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I am running everything stock. I haven't rooted it yet, but will eventually give it a go when the firmware matures a little.
I am able to get a quick delivery on GMAIL app. But, I think something is seriously broken with the stock email app. Most people will say that push is not a supported feature. But, it works for an hour or two, then it will stop working. Bigger issue is that it doesn't fetch emails reliably even with intervals set. The top status will say the last synced time, but the emails never arrive in my inbox until I load manually.
Given that Samsung cheated on the benchmarking score, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Samsung intentionally disabling push and pull feature. Just a guess. In fact, when I enable everything I used to run on iPhone (location service, bluetooth, wifi, google services, etc), N3 battery life falls pretty fast. I wonder if Samsung intentionally cropped polling for push to increase battery life.
Regardless, if push doesn't work property, this phone is not ready as a business tool. I spent the whole afternoon trying different combination, and I am about to give up. The only thing I haven't done is root, but I am not sure how that would affect the situation. I am also trying to find some sort of bug report page, but haven't found one.
This is a pretty major issue as my work requires immediate delivery of emails. I am keeping my fingers crossed until somebody crack this.

Spent the whole day resetting, deleting, adding account, playing with all sorts of sync settings, etc, and came to conclusion that the default email app is a horribly broken piece of junk. Keeping track of fetch interval and the stamp of the messages shows it cannot even pull the email on time from the server.
So I installed Evomail. What a difference! The app is beautifully designed, and has no problem pushing all my emails instantly. I am not sure if I am sold on the gesture thing as you can accidentally delete emails, but the icon has taken over the stock email on the bottom of the screen permanently for now. Wish Samsung would've done a better job on one of the email app.