Hi everyone!
I am new and although I just registered, I've been reading many topics and saw a lot videos regarding battery life of this device which is my 1st concern.
I still don't own this device, and before I go and purchase one, I wanted to read more opinions from users.
Regarding phone features, I need only basic stuff. I don't need voice recognition and for sure I will never use that, so I hope it can save some battery life there. Regarding active display, I also don't need that, but if that notifications would actually help battery life instead waking up the screen every 20-30 minutes, I will keep that.
Gestures, sensors, gps, location reporting, absolutely nothing there that I need, and if I need any of that anytime I guess I can always turn it on.
Anyway I am pretty much basic user. I do some web browsing, gaming, Viber, Whatsapp, I check my email few times per day, so no need for constantly refreshing and checking every few minutes. Also my wi-fi is not on most of the time, and very rarely I use 3g/4g internet, only when wi-fi is out of reach and I need to check my email or something. I am no advanced user by any means, and I like to remove most of preinstalled crap from the phone and I also don't install much, I like to keep it clean.
So with all this in mind, and with fact that I am from Europe and will be using this phone in Europe, which version of the phone and Android OS on it, do you recommend, in order to have the best and fastest UI experience with longest battery life possible? Which one should I buy, and should I upgrade it or maybe put CM on it or what?
Thanks a lot! :good:
Probably flash a basic AOSP and turn features off you don't use would give you best battery life, or keep stock 4,4.4 and turn everything off
@BrownDog99, thanks for answering.
I was also thinking that stock KK 4.4.4 would be best to keep for a while if I buy new device, because of warranty.
And then to turn off everything I don't need... On Lollipop I like those old school appeal of on screen navigation buttons, but I guess I could find some app for that.
But still I am not sure which version to buy. If only developer edition had black back, I would buy it right away.
Is there any other version that was made in US but can work in EU and has stock KK 4.4.4.? I'm not too happy to go for Chinese ones.
Looks for xt1053 from T-Mobile as you can easily unlock the bootloader or xt1052. Basically most of the models will work in Europe it only differs with the LTE support. Check the frequency of these models and see if they are supported by your carrier service in Europe.
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ajdeneka said:
Is there any other version that was made in US but can work in EU and has stock KK 4.4.4.?
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Any model besides of 1055 (and, possibly, 1049) - these don't work with GSM.
If you need complete freedom with ROM tweaking - go for bootloader unlockable models. These are: 1050, 1053, 1056, 1058 America Movil / Rogers CA, and 1060 Developer Edition that you don't like because of its back cover ) Btw, cover can be easily replaced by qualified personel, or enthusiast.
Do have European LTE (4G) these: 1052 (better, more frequencies) and 1058.
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None of Moto X models is made in US. It was assembly only. Now Motorola Mobility is bought by Lenovo, so 2015 phones are both made in assembled in Asia, as iPhone.
Thanks both of you for explanations.
I was searching for any new Moto X 1st Gen. just to compare prices and I am quite disappointed.
They are quite expensive, more expensive than around end of last year.
It is also tricky to buy on ebay or amazon because I know for a fact that lot of sellers are selling Moto x as new but they were actually used.
That is always a problem with older phones, it is hard to find sealed package.
I must admit that Developers Edition is most interesting, but I really hate that white buttons and white back. I am not sure if it is worth the cost of tools for opening, replacing buttons, back cover, lens cover and even maybe flash if damaged..
I am not sure if I will be able to find this phone NEW, with price up to 250$ with shipping to EU, and also I need to pay more than 60$ tax on that price.. With that in mind I really can't afford all additional costs for replacing back cover and buttons..
There are few models in EU for sale that are new in all black, but too expensive and only 16GB. I am not sure what to do, maybe just to be patient and wait for some good deal to pop up but I am not so sure.. thanks anyway for help!
P.S. Any information regarding battery life between Developer Edition and other editions? (assuming that OS is not updated, but original that phone came with).
Thanks!
ajdeneka said:
Any information regarding battery life between Developer Edition and other editions? (assuming that OS is not updated, but original that phone came with).
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No difference. Mainboard is the same, with + - additional LTE chip.
About prices - PM sent.
Wow, you will be able to get the moto 2014 for $250 and the when the new styles come out probably $ 200
ajdeneka said:
Thanks both of you for explanations.
I was searching for any new Moto X 1st Gen. just to compare prices and I am quite disappointed.
They are quite expensive, more expensive than around end of last year.
It is also tricky to buy on ebay or amazon because I know for a fact that lot of sellers are selling Moto x as new but they were actually used.
That is always a problem with older phones, it is hard to find sealed package.
I must admit that Developers Edition is most interesting, but I really hate that white buttons and white back. I am not sure if it is worth the cost of tools for opening, replacing buttons, back cover, lens cover and even maybe flash if damaged..
I am not sure if I will be able to find this phone NEW, with price up to 250$ with shipping to EU, and also I need to pay more than 60$ tax on that price.. With that in mind I really can't afford all additional costs for replacing back cover and buttons..
There are few models in EU for sale that are new in all black, but too expensive and only 16GB. I am not sure what to do, maybe just to be patient and wait for some good deal to pop up but I am not so sure.. thanks anyway for help!
P.S. Any information regarding battery life between Developer Edition and other editions? (assuming that OS is not updated, but original that phone came with).
Thanks!
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I thought I would hate the dev edition back and buttons. I actually ended up really liking it once I got it.
I could also consider Developer edition because there are lots of nice back covers in black to choose from, but I can't find new phone, everything is used or fake advertised as new but just opened box and stuff like that..
Related
was considering a droid 4 or razor as my next phone..
Dont really know much about it only the glossy adverts and such
and want to know what people think of the droid 4 who already own it.
Any descent custom roms/kernels?
battery life?
does it get hot?
official updates?
is the keyboard any good?
sound quality in phone calls/ speaker phone?
screen quality?
wish you bought something else?
- For D4 we have pretty good ICS leaks, I`m on of the latest leaks, and it`s stable and very comfortable to use.
- Battery life - good enough, better than on my Droid 3 (I saw that there is a fix for WiFi to improve the battery life, so should be even better)
- Not hot for me, but I`m not using this phone for games.
- Official update of ICS (4.0.4) is planned for Q3 2012, so should be delivered to our phones in next few monthes. I hope after ICS we will get JB.
- Keyboard is terrific and awesome. I had all Droids from Motorola and keyboard for Droid 4 is the best keyboard I`ve seen before.
- sounds quality is good, from my point of view - the same as on my Droid 3, so no issues here. With the speaker phone don`t see any issues as well.
- Screen is good, sharp enough and looks like better than screen for Droid 3 (at least in comprasion). But it`s not AMOLED...
- Since I`m using keyboard smartphones for work and I really need hardware keyboard (e-mails, messages, etc.) - Droid 4 is the best choice for me. If you don`t need keyboard then I would suggest to take a look to the Motorola Razr.
Mainly agree with MrAdvo, with a little less positiveness about the screen. I came from the Droid 2 Global (now an ancient phone) and that screen was much better. This shows when scrolling fast or in some animated games (such as Drop). But it's certainly usable.
I paid full price (to keep unlimited data) and I don't currently regret my decision! Waiting for official ICS so it can be global.
I went with the D4 over the razr and I'm glad I did. I work for vzw and constantly get customers coming in who hate the battery life on the razr. I have had no customers complaining about their droid 4.
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Any descent custom roms/kernels? - So far we're stuck with stock kernels due to the locked bootloader but if what I've seen in the dev forums is true, that will be fixable soon with kexec. Hashcode has also ported both CM9 and AOKP to the stock kernel so that should cover most people's needs. Personally I'm an AOKP fangirl, but CM9 is good too!
battery life? - I'm currently in the phase where I'm constantly tinkering with it all day even though I'm supposed to be working, and in the worst case I still had 16% left by the time I went to bed at 4AM! Currently it's 3:27AM and the battery is still at 68% I'd say that was pretty good.
does it get hot? - Not that I've noticed
official updates? - Still waiting for ICS, regular leaks, as discussed already.
is the keyboard any good? - Yes, providing you're not using it to admin linux/unix/cisco type gear as some of the more obscure punctuation such as curly brackets is not on the keyboard and has to be accessed through menus. If you're using it as a text messaging device, or for posting on social networks it's awesome, easily the nicest phone keyboard I have ever used, and this is coming from someone who has had landscape QWERTY phones since the days of the Nokia 9110
sound quality in phone calls/ speaker phone? - Seems fine to me.
screen quality? - This is the big sticking point. If you look closely at a photograph or a smooth gradient, you can see a speckly/dithering effect from the pentile screen. You have to know it's there and go looking for it, but if you're expecting the screen of a Galaxy SIII you'll be disappointed. It's still a decent screen with good brightness and contrast. Haven't tried it in direct sunlight yet though, what with me being in the UK
wish you bought something else? - Nope. Once you've decided you want a QWERTYphone, there really isn't another option right now. Thankfully this is a very good option.
One thing that's important to note, since you're in Australia, which I'm 99% certain is a GSM country, this phone will not work out of the box as the gingerbread firmware is CDMA only and locked to the Verizon network in the USA. You'll need to flash to the latest ICS leak. Idiot's guide here.
Thanx guys and girls,
Yeah I was wondering why I couldnt find this phone from aussie sellers in ebay and telco's.
So can be hacked to GSM?
Dam looked like a good phone too.
is it still a touch screen ?
DuratecPaul said:
Thanx guys and girls,
Yeah I was wondering why I couldnt find this phone from aussie sellers in ebay and telco's.
So can be hacked to GSM?
Dam looked like a good phone too.
is it still a touch screen ?
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The hardware is fully capable of both CDMA and GSM, however the firmware it shipped with does not have GSM support because Verizon are, well, they're as nice and helpful as Telstra!
Officially the Droid 4 will get world-phone functionality at the same time as the official ICS firmware drops, supposedly in Q3, but you can have it right now with one of the leaks.
Yes it's still a touchscreen. I only really warned you about the screen because quite a few people are moaning about it when compared to the Galaxy SIII. Personally I'm fine with the screen.
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The hardware is fully capable of both CDMA and GSM, however the firmware it shipped with does not have GSM support because Verizon are, well, they're as nice and helpful as Telstra!
Officially the Droid 4 will get world-phone functionality at the same time as the official ICS firmware drops, supposedly in Q3, but you can have it right now with one of the leaks.
Yes it's still a touchscreen. I only really warned you about the screen because quite a few people are moaning about it when compared to the Galaxy SIII. Personally I'm fine with the screen.
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If you plan to use the phone outside the US, and are at least a little paranoid, it might be a good idea to buy the phone prior to the ICS release and install the leak.
Note: no evidence for what follows! It's at least possible that Verizon might lock the GSM portion of the phone, as they have done on their previous pre-ICS world phones. The leaks don't have a lock, and neither does the official ICS release on the RAZR, but it might seem to be a good idea at some point. Unlocking can be very hard, you need to be a VZ customer to get it from Verizon, and on some models, particularly the Droid 2 Global, Verizon changed the codes so that the web-based vendors codes (using Moto's DB) didn't work most of the time. In addition, they can make it hard to root and impossible to revert to an earlier version (Droid 2 got a root method last week, several months after the latest update). So, may not happen, but.....
Thanx all round...
if i find the right 1 at the right price ...I will be getting one I think.
I hate onscreen keyboards ...
I wonder does swiftkeys work with the hardware keyboard ie suggest words spell correct.
DuratecPaul said:
I wonder does swiftkeys work with the hardware keyboard ie suggest words spell correct.
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No idea what swiftkeys is, but it does pop up a number of word suggestions at the bottom of the screen as I type.
As for price, I got a brand new one for US$500 which worked out at about UK£360 after import taxes. This was a lot cheaper than buying a similar device out of contract in the UK since most sellers do $1 = £1 to set UK prices even though the exchange rate is currently $1.50 = £1.
I don't know how Australian prices compare, or how much you get taxed for personal imports, but I'm sure you people get ripped off on electronic goods just as much as us Poms.
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No idea what swiftkeys is, but it does pop up a number of word suggestions at the bottom of the screen as I type.
As for price, I got a brand new one for US$500 which worked out at about UK£360 after import taxes. This was a lot cheaper than buying a similar device out of contract in the UK since most sellers do $1 = £1 to set UK prices even though the exchange rate is currently $1.50 = £1.
I don't know how Australian prices compare, or how much you get taxed for personal imports, but I'm sure you people get ripped off on electronic goods just as much as us Poms.
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Oh hell yeah we do ...in the shops... but online from USA is very cheap anything under $1000 au is tax free
UK is same I think but we have to put up with your horrific postal charges.
DuratecPaul said:
Oh hell yeah we do ...in the shops... but online from USA is very cheap anything under $1000 au is tax free
UK is same I think but we have to put up with your horrific postal charges.
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Yes, I imported my Droid 4 from USA here in Australia. Works great and no taxes because of price lower than 1000 AUD.
Hey Paul,
Send us a pm with a reasonable target price as we may be able to accommodate you.
DevicesNow said:
Hey Paul,
Send us a pm with a reasonable target price as we may be able to accommodate you.
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By devicesnow i buyed three droid4, this is a powerseller
Very fast shipping and good communication.
...Tapatalk
Lum_UK said:
No idea what swiftkeys is, but it does pop up a number of word suggestions at the bottom of the screen as I type.
As for price, I got a brand new one for US$500 which worked out at about UK£360 after import taxes. This was a lot cheaper than buying a similar device out of contract in the UK since most sellers do $1 = £1 to set UK prices even though the exchange rate is currently $1.50 = £1.
I don't know how Australian prices compare, or how much you get taxed for personal imports, but I'm sure you people get ripped off on electronic goods just as much as us Poms.
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$500 is good! I paid $549 from Verizon (to keep unlimited data on their plans)
I also am in the same bucket as you... tired of my Thunderbolt having issues and need to stay grandfathered. Found a sweet deal on a brand new Droid 4 out of the box. I take it even as Motorola w/ a locked bootloader, we've got tethering working on this device? (w/out a plan)
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we've got tethering working on this device? (w/out a plan)
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wireless tethering working without problems.
So I'm having a bit of a conundrum. My current RAZR M is very nice, but is facing a few problems (I won't go into detail). After a lot of research, I've decided the Moto X will most likely be my next phone. Some additional motivation is I have a $50 coupon off a new Moto X and tomorrow starts Motorola's Moto X Valentine's Day sale. It seems like a good time to pick one up.
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like? Like most here, once I get my hands on the device, I'm going to want to root it and start tweaking everything to my liking. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Hikikomori-Otaku said:
So I'm having a bit of a conundrum. My current RAZR M is very nice, but is facing a few problems (I won't go into detail). After a lot of research, I've decided the Moto X will most likely be my next phone. Some additional motivation is I have a $50 coupon off a new Moto X and tomorrow starts Motorola's Moto X Valentine's Day sale. It seems like a good time to pick one up.
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like? Like most here, once I get my hands on the device, I'm going to want to root it and start tweaking everything to my liking. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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There have been lots of threads on this. Searching is good.
The cheapest, most customizable and most tweakable is the T-Mobile version. this comes already carrier unlocked, and you can unlock its bootloader easily.
Hikikomori-Otaku said:
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like?
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I think you already know the answer. It's like trying to decide between the ugly girl who gives it up easily or the attractive girl who makes you work for it but is totally worth the time and effort.
nhizzat said:
I think you already know the answer. It's like trying to decide between the ugly girl who gives it up easily or the attractive girl who makes you work for it but is totally worth the time and effort.
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I deal with my hot wife every day. I want my phone to be easy. I went with the dev model and am happy
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Phone + Easy = iPhone
Phone: Moto X
ROM: 4.4 Stock w/ Root
Xposed: GravityBox & App Settings
Service: T-Mobile
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We like our phones hot like your wife lol
Phone: Moto X
ROM: 4.4 Stock w/ Root
Xposed: GravityBox & App Settings
Service: T-Mobile
Android Stuff: http://ozzygeek.tumblr.com
Hikikomori-Otaku said:
So I'm having a bit of a conundrum. My current RAZR M is very nice, but is facing a few problems (I won't go into detail). After a lot of research, I've decided the Moto X will most likely be my next phone. Some additional motivation is I have a $50 coupon off a new Moto X and tomorrow starts Motorola's Moto X Valentine's Day sale. It seems like a good time to pick one up.
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like? Like most here, once I get my hands on the device, I'm going to want to root it and start tweaking everything to my liking. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I'm assuming you're a VZW customer, and planning to stay as one... So don't get the Tmobile version.
What means more to you, a customized look, or the ability to unlock it? Unlocking guarantees you the ability to root. While you can root the VZW moto maker phones, you cannot now, and likely will never be able to unlock it.
TheSaw said:
There have been lots of threads on this. Searching is good.
The cheapest, most customizable and most tweakable is the T-Mobile version. this comes already carrier unlocked, and you can unlock its bootloader easily.
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To be fair, I did search and not just here. Most what I found were people moving from "top-tier" model phones. The other being that the prices have change a bit from the release date. I will keep you advice in mind though.
I was thining the T-Mobile version would be the best too. From what I've read, it'll be a bit of work but that is part of the fun.
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I think you already know the answer. It's like trying to decide between the ugly girl who gives it up easily or the attractive girl who makes you work for it but is totally worth the time and effort.
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While I may not like to context of your analogy, you message is clear. Getting a beautiful phone and putting forth a bit of work to making fully my own may be worth it in the end.
Coop9 said:
I'm assuming you're a VZW customer, and planning to stay as one... So don't get the Tmobile version.
What means more to you, a customized look, or the ability to unlock it? Unlocking guarantees you the ability to root. While you can root the VZW moto maker phones, you cannot now, and likely will never be able to unlock it.
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When I originally got my RAZR M, I was on VZW (prepaid to be exact), the tweaks I had done to make it work on their network caused to phone to not play well with the network at times. I removed the frequency block on the radio and now am running my RAZR M with a GoPhone SIM. Works much better even if AT&T's coverage isn't as good a VZW's in my area.
I can get an unlocked Moto X from someone on craigslist. They bought it from amazon in May and are willing to provide the receipt.
I currently have a LG G2 but the battery has become defective. It happened the first time I got the phone but I chalked it up to a fluke. Then it started happening more and more as time went on, but it was infrequent. But now it's happening daily and at the point where it will lose charge nonstop during the day and if I don't touch it I'll be lucky that it will make it by the time I get home at night. There is NO wakelock, my phone sleeps very well. GSAM and Wakelock detector and BBS cannot find any reason why this is happening. I've tried numerous factory resets and have very few apps on the phone, disabling a lot of the carrier bloatware. This is definitely a hardware issue.
So I know that the Moto X+1 is going to unveiled on Sep 4 but who knows when it'll actually go on sale, or worth the new phone sticker price at this point.
So what do you guys think? Should I go ahead and get this Moto X if it's in good condition? I'm really torn at this point because my phone has become so unreliable. Sometimes I'll go to bed with it at 100% and it will drain during the night to 0 and I've missed my alarms in the morning to wake up even.
Why don't you replace the battery ? Moto X+1 should be good
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ravi4chahal said:
Why don't you replace the battery ? Moto X+1 should be good
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I don't want to open the back and risk messing it up because I want to trade it in to AT&T to get another phone and right now the phone is in pristine condition.
ksc6000 said:
I don't want to open the back and risk messing it up because I want to trade it in to AT&T to get another phone and right now the phone is in pristine condition.
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You're sure they will do that?
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And have you checked out BBS or Gsam to see if you don't simply have an issue draining you? Any troubleshooting?
KJ said:
You're sure they will do that?
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These are AT&T's requirements:
1. Does the device power on and off?
Yes No
2. Is the screen intact, free of any chips or cracks, and functioning correctly? Loading
Yes No
3. Is the body of the device free of breaks or cracks in the housing, keypad, hinge, or battery cover?
Yes No
4. Is battery included?
Yes No
5. Has the Activation Lock been disabled? (e.g., Find My iPhone, kill switch)
So my phone meets all of these I think.
If you can get Moto X in exchange without spending anything then go for it. Except camera I like everything about the phone.
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ksc6000 said:
These are AT&T's requirements:
1. Does the device power on and off?
Yes No
2. Is the screen intact, free of any chips or cracks, and functioning correctly? Loading
Yes No
3. Is the body of the device free of breaks or cracks in the housing, keypad, hinge, or battery cover?
Yes No
4. Is battery included?
Yes No
5. Has the Activation Lock been disabled? (e.g., Find My iPhone, kill switch)
So my phone meets all of these I think.
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Yes, but how long you had it? Exchange or return is usually a limited time. After you have to deal with the manufacturer. And obviously they will only fix or exchange. Not refund or give a different phone maker.
I'd look into it anyway.
I guess the Sprint (CDMA) versions have the lowest sale/resale value. Got a mint condition X1056 off CList for $120 sometime ago. Battery life and having only 16GB built in are my only dings against the Moto X. Nice little fella.
LordLugard said:
I guess the Sprint (CDMA) versions have the lowest sale/resale value. Got a mint condition X1056 off CList for $120 sometime ago. Battery life and having only 16GB built in are my only dings against the Moto X. Nice little fella.
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Go to the battery thread in general and troubleshoot your battery issues. The X can have good to great battery life.... Depending on your usage, setup and signal. And if you have issues or not.
No one should be saying battery life is poor. That only means they haven't taken the time to figure out why theirs is poor. ?
KJ said:
Go to the battery thread in general and troubleshoot your battery issues. The X can have good to great battery life.... Depending on your usage, setup and signal. And if you have issues or not.
No one should be saying battery life is poor. That only means they haven't taken the time to figure out why theirs is poor. ?
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Already done/tried everything and came to the conclusion that battery is poor compared to other comparable devices i've owned. Sorry, but it is what what it is. The Moto X doesn't have good battery life in my opinion. Everything else is fine, even the camera that others complain about, i have no issues with.
I have screen shots in the Battery thread... Many.... From 6 to near 8 hours screen time... Over a 24 hour total drain. Many others do too.
Perhaps it's your usage or setup.... But it's poor for you either way. But "the moto x" in general, has outstanding battery life for the size of the battery. Which is smaller than many other devices. ?
But, you say you've done all you can.... Then I'm sorry to hear it's bad for you. I'm betting I can tell you exactly why it's bad for you if you provide info and screenshots from gsam. But not here, in the Battery thread. Your choice. ?
Sorry for the off topic.
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It's an N5 thread... But it all applies to the X as well.... The first 4 posts in the Battery thread in my signature has a lot of great tips.
K.. No more off topic from me.
Sorry Mr. Extreme number 1 fan of the Moto X (it seems), but you're not going to convince me otherwise of my own experience. The Moto X gets bad battery life in what i have experienced. It's not the end of the world and i don't see why you're getting such a hard up on this issue. I am but one person (amongst others i know also feel the same way) who has a differing experience, let it go. It's almost as if no one can have a different opinion/experience in your world.
"...I'm betting I can tell you exactly why it's bad for you if you provide info and screenshots from gsam. But not here, in the Battery thread. Your choice..."
Thanks for the offer, but no thanks. I can troubleshoot issues myself just fine and have done so for all the years i've been on Android. Just let it go and move on.
LordLugard said:
Sorry Mr. Extreme number 1 fan of the Moto X (it seems), but you're not going to convince me otherwise of my own experience. The Moto X gets bad battery life in what i have experienced. It's not the end of the world and i don't see why you're getting such a hard up on this issue. I am but one person (amongst others i know also feel the same way) who has a differing experience, let it go. It's almost as if no one can have a different opinion/experience in your world.
"...I'm betting I can tell you exactly why it's bad for you if you provide info and screenshots from gsam. But not here, in the Battery thread. Your choice..."
Thanks for the offer, but no thanks. I can troubleshoot issues myself just fine and have done so for all the years i've been on Android. Just let it go and move on.
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K.... I tried to offer help. I'm over it though. Enjoy! ?
ksc6000 said:
I can get an unlocked Moto X from someone on craigslist. They bought it from amazon in May and are willing to provide the receipt. ...
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What model X? is it the XT1053, XT1058 (att), XT1058(other carrier), XT1060(verizon), etc?
Is it SIM Unlocked or bootloader unlocked? If bootloader, Ask for proof of bootloader unlock.. (screen shot of fasbootAP screen showing Unlocked Status 3).
Remember, you will have no warranty on the phone, either way. At least per Moto's documents, it says warranty is non-transferable.
Are you sure the IMEI is clean/clear? Have you checked/verified with the carrier?
If its clean/clear and bootloader unlocked, that is not a bad price. But the cost of an X might dip when the X+1 gets announced.. If that happens, its almost worth waiting and getting one that is brand new with a warranty. Unless you are planning to get a non-dev and unlock the bootloader and root (which voids the warranty anyway)
Hi guys,
Yesterday I nave broken the screen of my moto x 2014. Fortunately, only the glass is broken and the LCD and touchscreen are all OK, without any problem. I was thinking about make someone repair it, but I saw that the price is high, about 100€ here in Italy. What do you advice to do? Could I find more competitive price? And is it possibile that I can find a shop where they could replace only the glass? If I send it to Motorola, which price will they do?
I would get a new phone. Even tho i love this phone, but i think it would be more profitable than paying extra 100Eur for 3y old phone.
I would get a new phone. Even tho i love this phone, but i think it would be more profitable than paying extra 100Eur for 3y old phone
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You have to take into account that it's very hard to replace a phone like this one. There are no real successors and nexus is dead. (And no, our phone is not "three years old", it's not even two and a half. This distorted consumerist perception of time is one of the reasons why we haven't seen updates beyond ONE bloody year)
I've never seen someone service a screen (from any brand) for less than 100 euros, unfortunately. Can't you just phone an official Motorola service centre and ask them for an estimate?
Yes, next week I'll try in a Motorola service centre but, considering what I read in other forums, I don't think that they will make me a better price.
From what I understood, the problem is that the spare part is quite expensive, also if you buy it from eBay. The only way to save some money is to change only the glass but the process is difficult and you should spend other money on the specific tools anyway. Now I'm looking for someone that can do it, although the largest part of shops prefers to replace all the piece and not only the glass.
Flipz77 said:
You have to take into account that it's very hard to replace a phone like this one. There are no real successors and nexus is dead. (And no, our phone is not "three years old", it's not even two and a half. This distorted consumerist perception of time is one of the reasons why we haven't seen updates beyond ONE bloody year)
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Well in terms of performance, screen, software and features, this phone doesnt feel 3y old but why is it hard to replace phone like this ? OnePlus 3T, Pixel, S7(or upcoming S8), are all great options. Better cameras, screens, batteries and performance. Im just being objective. And i will still have my moto for year or two.
Pixels and Galaxies are way too pricey, yes, they're bleeeeding edge, and so is the 1+3T, but I was considering a successor, not just a newer, "better" phone.
Google assistant (assuming you can get it to work from screen off when you're not plugged in) is not better than Moto voice just because it's newer.
Bottom speakers are not better just because Google is monkeying iphones.
Samsung firmwares are not better.
Ambient display is not better than Moto display.
That's why you can always buy a newer, more powerful phone assuming you have the money, but you aren't going to find everything you left in the "old tech" drawer.
Dropped mine a month ago - broken glass, frame untouched, perfectly functional touchscreen.
Thought it was 'wrong' to spend money to repair, bought a refurbished Nexus 5.
Well, damn, Moto X 2014 was better in almost every way except camera - by a lot.
BTW: the Nexus 5 is ready to get shipped, with tempered glass and a new battery alredy installed...
Hello everyone,
I was in need of a new phone and sick of Apple and IOS. I am just done with the Apple ecosystem all together. When it comes to Android, it is stock or nothing for me. I'm not a power user by any means though, so I can't really justify the cost of a Pixel 2. The G6 and the X4 appeared to be my best options. I went with the X4 because of the better chipset, faster ram, better cameras, and ip68 rating. I know some would argue that the G6 has a better display and more modern design, but the display doesn't offset the fact that the X4 is a step up all around with everything else. I honestly would rather stick with 16:9 and they both have 424ppi anyways. I wouldn't have minded a Nokia 6.1 but where I live in Wisconsin it is Verizon, US Cellular, or no service. GSM only phones are a no go.
So I picked up a brand new unlocked Moto X4 32gb from Best Buy. (Non Fi or Prime) I was able to swendle them into price matching the $250 Amazon Prime version. As for service, I decided to go with Verizon prepaid over a MVNO like straight talk or total wireless. I pay a little more in exchange for higher prioritizeation and faster data speeds. The prioritizeation really matters where I live because everyone is using Verizon towers. Straight Talk and Total wireless are very, very popular in my area and very, very cheap (as low as $35 for 6gb) but I notice that their data speeds are about 1/4 that of Verizon prepaid and postpaid.
So, any recommendations or tips for a new Moto X owner? I plan to unlock the bootloader and root it today. Clean things up a bit, ditch encryption for a little performance bump. I look forward to tinkering with Android again.
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Loving the X4! This was a well needed upgrade for me. It was funny to get 4 updates in a row. May, June, July, August security updates. Why did it have to do them one at a time? lol
Moto x4 is really nice device, its quick, lagfree, handy, stock out of box, no bloatware (only Moto few app)... only downside is camera quality,its very poor and moto doesn't provide speedy update like pixel or oneplus
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Moto x4 is really nice device, its quick, lagfree, handy, stock out of box, no bloatware (only Moto few app)... only downside is camera quality,its very poor and moto doesn't provide speedy update like pixel or oneplus
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camera quality was bad on the launch, now with all the oreo updates it works just fine and its similar to phones with this price tag, we even have AR Core
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So, any recommendations or tips for a new Moto X owner? I plan to unlock the bootloader and root it today. Clean things up a bit, ditch encryption for a little performance bump. I look forward to tinkering with Android again.
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If you have already done this, then I think it is important to know that you have absolutely voided your warranty. There is no way to re-lock your bootloader in a fashion that will satisfy the manufacturer. Also, now that you have tripped the "e-fuse" or "q-fuse" or whatever you want to call it, you will never be able to use google pay without using magisk to trick it.
If you haven't already loaded F-DROID to download Ad Away, I highly recommend doing that as well.
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If you have already done this, then I think it is important to know that you have absolutely voided your warranty. There is no way to re-lock your bootloader in a fashion that will satisfy the manufacturer. Also, now that you have tripped the "e-fuse" or "q-fuse" or whatever you want to call it, you will never be able to use google pay without using magisk to trick it.
If you haven't already loaded F-DROID to download Ad Away, I highly recommend doing that as well.
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I actually have not as of yet. After doing some research, I don't think that I am going to either. Warranty is not a big deal to me on a $250 phone, but I would really like to use Android Pay. Also, one of the main reasons I root is to remove unwanted apps. I don't see much bloatware on here and I like some of the Moto features. I already ditched my navigation bar in favor of the fingerprint gestures. The three finger screenshot gesture is legit too. I'm happy with the phone the way it is for now.
What is F-DROID?
edufur said:
If you have already done this, then I think it is important to know that you have absolutely voided your warranty. There is no way to re-lock your bootloader in a fashion that will satisfy the manufacturer. Also, now that you have tripped the "e-fuse" or "q-fuse" or whatever you want to call it, you will never be able to use google pay without using magisk to trick it.
If you haven't already loaded F-DROID to download Ad Away, I highly recommend doing that as well.
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I unlocked bootloader rooted and installed lineage. I decided to go back to stock and relocked bootloader - Google pay works without root and magisk.