First of all, my question can seem very naive or even stupid, so definitly excuse me for that. Here's the deal: back when the 1st Moto X was released, I really missed out on the whole Motomaker thing. Now that I think about it, a big problem arises, cause I actually can't use any phone that's being currently offered. Why, would you ask? Damn big screens. They disgust me. They're utterly uncomfortable, clunky and ugly. I just can't stand the new "phone meta" or whatever. So I decided to ask you guys a question: is it still possible to get a brand new custom Moto X that I get to create myself? And I mean like not refubrished or anyhing, a brand new phone, that's what I need. Maybe there are some companies that customize phones that can help me out with that?
Just so you know, I don't live in the States, but I've got a physical address there and a way to deliver stuff abroad.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
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First of all, my question can seem very naive or even stupid, so definitly excuse me for that. Here's the deal: back when the 1st Moto X was released, I really missed out on the whole Motomaker thing. Now that I think about it, a big problem arises, cause I actually can't use any phone that's being currently offered. Why, would you ask? Damn big screens. They disgust me. They're utterly uncomfortable, clunky and ugly. I just can't stand the new "phone meta" or whatever. So I decided to ask you guys a question: is it still possible to get a brand new custom Moto X that I get to create myself? And I mean like not refubrished or anyhing, a brand new phone, that's what I need. Maybe there are some companies that customize phones that can help me out with that?
Just so you know, I don't live in the States, but I've got a physical address there and a way to deliver stuff abroad.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
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moto maker 2013 is not available but you can still find the stander black or white new on ebay and amazon, even the dev edition is still available new on ebay, i feel you on these large screens its like who can have the biggest screen and the things are so easy to drop
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I've always liked the look of Moto sliders, ever since the original Milestone (Droid), but the encrypted bootloader turned me away from that phone. I've been with HTC devices ever since.
I've seen all the leaked Droid 4 photos and think it looks pretty damn sweet. Hopefully it'll get released in the UK as well (as the Milestone 4, I presume).
My question is: Can someone explain in simple terms if Moto is still encrypting bootloaders? If so, are there workarounds that give full access to flash different kernels etc now? This is still a dealbreaker issue for me. I need to know if I should quit wasting my time lusting after this device, and just wait for the next qwerty HTC to get announced.
Thanks!
Bootloaders are still locked, and Moto has not made any change to unlock them. As you can see HTC has decided to put out a tool, even with carrier objections. I really wish Moto would do the same thing!
Moto hates the dev community...
If you want to buy a moto device, buy it for what it is now, not for what it could be.
Moto promises to unlock bootloader on GB devices by Q3 2011. And they broke every promise, they only care about carriers.
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Moto hates the dev community...
If you want to buy a moto device, buy it for what it is now, not for what it could be.
Moto promises to unlock bootloader on GB devices by Q3 2011. And they broke every promise, they only care about carriers.
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Look here: http://digitaltelex.com/default/201...ed-to-unlocking-the-bootloaders-in-late-2011/
Guess there's no Milestone 4 in my future then
I was aware Moto had made promises about unlocking bootloaders a long time ago, but I'm not at all surprised they've not followed through on it.
With these Droid/Milestone models they are only cutting their own throat though. Look at the dev support that the original Droid got, the G1, the G2/Desire Z.
The dev community LOVES a decent qwerty phone, and Moto could clean up with the specs that Droid 4 has. But no, they'd rather lock it down, and all that business will just go to HTC instead. Along with my recommendation to friends/family etc.
Yep, is all about qwerty. We are tied to moto
Anyone looking for a non qwerty phone, dont buy moto, there are better options. Maybe this way they weill learn
It's the opposite for me - I'm locked out of buying Moto phones, even though I won't consider anything BUT qwerty phones.
My Desire Z is looking a little long in the tooth now, and I'm desperate to replace it with something dual-core. But there just isn't anything in this country (UK). And now it looks like Moto is not interested in taking my money for the 4th time in a row :-/
So I'm having a bit of a conundrum. My current RAZR M is very nice, but is facing a few problems (I won't go into detail). After a lot of research, I've decided the Moto X will most likely be my next phone. Some additional motivation is I have a $50 coupon off a new Moto X and tomorrow starts Motorola's Moto X Valentine's Day sale. It seems like a good time to pick one up.
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like? Like most here, once I get my hands on the device, I'm going to want to root it and start tweaking everything to my liking. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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So I'm having a bit of a conundrum. My current RAZR M is very nice, but is facing a few problems (I won't go into detail). After a lot of research, I've decided the Moto X will most likely be my next phone. Some additional motivation is I have a $50 coupon off a new Moto X and tomorrow starts Motorola's Moto X Valentine's Day sale. It seems like a good time to pick one up.
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like? Like most here, once I get my hands on the device, I'm going to want to root it and start tweaking everything to my liking. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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There have been lots of threads on this. Searching is good.
The cheapest, most customizable and most tweakable is the T-Mobile version. this comes already carrier unlocked, and you can unlock its bootloader easily.
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My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like?
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I think you already know the answer. It's like trying to decide between the ugly girl who gives it up easily or the attractive girl who makes you work for it but is totally worth the time and effort.
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I think you already know the answer. It's like trying to decide between the ugly girl who gives it up easily or the attractive girl who makes you work for it but is totally worth the time and effort.
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I deal with my hot wife every day. I want my phone to be easy. I went with the dev model and am happy
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Phone + Easy = iPhone
Phone: Moto X
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We like our phones hot like your wife lol
Phone: Moto X
ROM: 4.4 Stock w/ Root
Xposed: GravityBox & App Settings
Service: T-Mobile
Android Stuff: http://ozzygeek.tumblr.com
Hikikomori-Otaku said:
So I'm having a bit of a conundrum. My current RAZR M is very nice, but is facing a few problems (I won't go into detail). After a lot of research, I've decided the Moto X will most likely be my next phone. Some additional motivation is I have a $50 coupon off a new Moto X and tomorrow starts Motorola's Moto X Valentine's Day sale. It seems like a good time to pick one up.
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like? Like most here, once I get my hands on the device, I'm going to want to root it and start tweaking everything to my liking. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I'm assuming you're a VZW customer, and planning to stay as one... So don't get the Tmobile version.
What means more to you, a customized look, or the ability to unlock it? Unlocking guarantees you the ability to root. While you can root the VZW moto maker phones, you cannot now, and likely will never be able to unlock it.
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There have been lots of threads on this. Searching is good.
The cheapest, most customizable and most tweakable is the T-Mobile version. this comes already carrier unlocked, and you can unlock its bootloader easily.
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To be fair, I did search and not just here. Most what I found were people moving from "top-tier" model phones. The other being that the prices have change a bit from the release date. I will keep you advice in mind though.
I was thining the T-Mobile version would be the best too. From what I've read, it'll be a bit of work but that is part of the fun.
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I think you already know the answer. It's like trying to decide between the ugly girl who gives it up easily or the attractive girl who makes you work for it but is totally worth the time and effort.
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While I may not like to context of your analogy, you message is clear. Getting a beautiful phone and putting forth a bit of work to making fully my own may be worth it in the end.
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I'm assuming you're a VZW customer, and planning to stay as one... So don't get the Tmobile version.
What means more to you, a customized look, or the ability to unlock it? Unlocking guarantees you the ability to root. While you can root the VZW moto maker phones, you cannot now, and likely will never be able to unlock it.
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When I originally got my RAZR M, I was on VZW (prepaid to be exact), the tweaks I had done to make it work on their network caused to phone to not play well with the network at times. I removed the frequency block on the radio and now am running my RAZR M with a GoPhone SIM. Works much better even if AT&T's coverage isn't as good a VZW's in my area.
Hey there
So, my HTC 8x is about to die, I guess, and I am looking for a new phone. With Ubuntu touch and all comming up, I think the HTC One is the best piece of hardware out there currently (also I love the design). The only thing I don't like about it is the price... it's still around 450€ where I live.
So, me, never paying attention to price developements, was wondering if it makes any difference if I buy it now, or wait until "The All New One" comes out.
Also can anyone give me an update on the Ubuntu touch developement progress for the One?! - I only find very contradictory comments on the Internet - some say, it's almost done, others claim it will never happen.
Or do you say the One is crap and I should go for another phone? I really want to try Ubuntu touch, so that's one of my priorities, next to "flagship-hardware"
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Hey there
So, my HTC 8x is about to die, I guess, and I am looking for a new phone. With Ubuntu touch and all comming up, I think the HTC One is the best piece of hardware out there currently (also I love the design). The only thing I don't like about it is the price... it's still around 450€ where I live.
So, me, never paying attention to price developements, was wondering if it makes any difference if I buy it now, or wait until "The All New One" comes out.
Also can anyone give me an update on the Ubuntu touch developement progress for the One?! - I only find very contradictory comments on the Internet - some say, it's almost done, others claim it will never happen.
Or do you say the One is crap and I should go for another phone? I really want to try Ubuntu touch, so that's one of my priorities, next to "flagship-hardware"
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I have the HTC One and it's great.
However, if you're looking for something at a lower price, why don't you check the Nexus 5? It's for sure the best value for money.
I think it's also better for unofficial development (even if I can't complain with the One).
As fas as I could find, it's better supported by Ubuntu Touch (but never tried).
Farnsie said:
Hey there
So, my HTC 8x is about to die, I guess, and I am looking for a new phone. With Ubuntu touch and all comming up, I think the HTC One is the best piece of hardware out there currently (also I love the design). The only thing I don't like about it is the price... it's still around 450€ where I live.
So, me, never paying attention to price developements, was wondering if it makes any difference if I buy it now, or wait until "The All New One" comes out.
Also can anyone give me an update on the Ubuntu touch developement progress for the One?! - I only find very contradictory comments on the Internet - some say, it's almost done, others claim it will never happen.
Or do you say the One is crap and I should go for another phone? I really want to try Ubuntu touch, so that's one of my priorities, next to "flagship-hardware"
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Bro, the HTC One is an AMAZING handset and my personal favourite of 2013. The speakers and design and build quality are lightyears ahead of the Nexus 5. But, the 2014 edition of the One will be released on the 25th of March. I say that the updated One would be something you should definitely wait for.
Regarding Ubuntu Touch, Canonical isn't really doing much at the moment. I guess that once they release a phone with Ubuntu Touch, the OS will be ported to the One. There is a port for the One. It lacks connectivity though
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I know the One is an awesome piece of Hardware the Nexus 5 not so much, a friend has it, and it feels really cheap.
I will for sure not be going to buy the "The All New One" - I bet it's going to be even more awesome, but I'm not willing to spend 650€ on a new phone...
What I was actually wondering is, if anyone knows how the release of the new One will affect the One's price - I have never payed any attention on price-developenemts, and so I'm asking you And I don't mean used deviced, but new ones from Amazon or something...
(Also does anyone use The One without Google? I do use google mail, calendar and contacts, but I don't want them to know about every step I make...)
Farnsie said:
I know the One is an awesome piece of Hardware the Nexus 5 not so much, a friend has it, and it feels really cheap.
I will for sure not be going to buy the "The All New One" - I bet it's going to be even more awesome,
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Please focus on HTC one (m7) questions, phone comparison are not allowed here.
Farnsie said:
but I'm not willing to spend 650€ on a new phone...
What I was actually wondering is, if anyone knows how the release of the new One will affect the One's price - I have never payed any attention on price-developenemts, and so I'm asking you And I don't mean used deviced, but new ones from Amazon or something...
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You can buy a new carrier unlocked M7 around 550$ US + shipping + import charges atm on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-ONE-M7-OEM-GSM-Factory-Unlocked-FREE-SIM-Beat-Audio-Mobile-Phone-/190852326764?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2c6faf656c
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-One-ZOE-32GB-Silver-Unlocked-M7-Smartphone-/181152360204?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2a2d85a70c.
stay away from hongkong/china listing
Farnsie said:
(Also does anyone use The One without Google? I do use google mail, calendar and contacts, but I don't want them to know about every step I make...)
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If you don't want Google to collect statistic/data then don't use android
Hi everyone!
I am new and although I just registered, I've been reading many topics and saw a lot videos regarding battery life of this device which is my 1st concern.
I still don't own this device, and before I go and purchase one, I wanted to read more opinions from users.
Regarding phone features, I need only basic stuff. I don't need voice recognition and for sure I will never use that, so I hope it can save some battery life there. Regarding active display, I also don't need that, but if that notifications would actually help battery life instead waking up the screen every 20-30 minutes, I will keep that.
Gestures, sensors, gps, location reporting, absolutely nothing there that I need, and if I need any of that anytime I guess I can always turn it on.
Anyway I am pretty much basic user. I do some web browsing, gaming, Viber, Whatsapp, I check my email few times per day, so no need for constantly refreshing and checking every few minutes. Also my wi-fi is not on most of the time, and very rarely I use 3g/4g internet, only when wi-fi is out of reach and I need to check my email or something. I am no advanced user by any means, and I like to remove most of preinstalled crap from the phone and I also don't install much, I like to keep it clean.
So with all this in mind, and with fact that I am from Europe and will be using this phone in Europe, which version of the phone and Android OS on it, do you recommend, in order to have the best and fastest UI experience with longest battery life possible? Which one should I buy, and should I upgrade it or maybe put CM on it or what?
Thanks a lot! :good:
Probably flash a basic AOSP and turn features off you don't use would give you best battery life, or keep stock 4,4.4 and turn everything off
@BrownDog99, thanks for answering.
I was also thinking that stock KK 4.4.4 would be best to keep for a while if I buy new device, because of warranty.
And then to turn off everything I don't need... On Lollipop I like those old school appeal of on screen navigation buttons, but I guess I could find some app for that.
But still I am not sure which version to buy. If only developer edition had black back, I would buy it right away.
Is there any other version that was made in US but can work in EU and has stock KK 4.4.4.? I'm not too happy to go for Chinese ones.
Looks for xt1053 from T-Mobile as you can easily unlock the bootloader or xt1052. Basically most of the models will work in Europe it only differs with the LTE support. Check the frequency of these models and see if they are supported by your carrier service in Europe.
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Is there any other version that was made in US but can work in EU and has stock KK 4.4.4.?
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Any model besides of 1055 (and, possibly, 1049) - these don't work with GSM.
If you need complete freedom with ROM tweaking - go for bootloader unlockable models. These are: 1050, 1053, 1056, 1058 America Movil / Rogers CA, and 1060 Developer Edition that you don't like because of its back cover ) Btw, cover can be easily replaced by qualified personel, or enthusiast.
Do have European LTE (4G) these: 1052 (better, more frequencies) and 1058.
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None of Moto X models is made in US. It was assembly only. Now Motorola Mobility is bought by Lenovo, so 2015 phones are both made in assembled in Asia, as iPhone.
Thanks both of you for explanations.
I was searching for any new Moto X 1st Gen. just to compare prices and I am quite disappointed.
They are quite expensive, more expensive than around end of last year.
It is also tricky to buy on ebay or amazon because I know for a fact that lot of sellers are selling Moto x as new but they were actually used.
That is always a problem with older phones, it is hard to find sealed package.
I must admit that Developers Edition is most interesting, but I really hate that white buttons and white back. I am not sure if it is worth the cost of tools for opening, replacing buttons, back cover, lens cover and even maybe flash if damaged..
I am not sure if I will be able to find this phone NEW, with price up to 250$ with shipping to EU, and also I need to pay more than 60$ tax on that price.. With that in mind I really can't afford all additional costs for replacing back cover and buttons..
There are few models in EU for sale that are new in all black, but too expensive and only 16GB. I am not sure what to do, maybe just to be patient and wait for some good deal to pop up but I am not so sure.. thanks anyway for help!
P.S. Any information regarding battery life between Developer Edition and other editions? (assuming that OS is not updated, but original that phone came with).
Thanks!
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Any information regarding battery life between Developer Edition and other editions? (assuming that OS is not updated, but original that phone came with).
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No difference. Mainboard is the same, with + - additional LTE chip.
About prices - PM sent.
Wow, you will be able to get the moto 2014 for $250 and the when the new styles come out probably $ 200
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Thanks both of you for explanations.
I was searching for any new Moto X 1st Gen. just to compare prices and I am quite disappointed.
They are quite expensive, more expensive than around end of last year.
It is also tricky to buy on ebay or amazon because I know for a fact that lot of sellers are selling Moto x as new but they were actually used.
That is always a problem with older phones, it is hard to find sealed package.
I must admit that Developers Edition is most interesting, but I really hate that white buttons and white back. I am not sure if it is worth the cost of tools for opening, replacing buttons, back cover, lens cover and even maybe flash if damaged..
I am not sure if I will be able to find this phone NEW, with price up to 250$ with shipping to EU, and also I need to pay more than 60$ tax on that price.. With that in mind I really can't afford all additional costs for replacing back cover and buttons..
There are few models in EU for sale that are new in all black, but too expensive and only 16GB. I am not sure what to do, maybe just to be patient and wait for some good deal to pop up but I am not so sure.. thanks anyway for help!
P.S. Any information regarding battery life between Developer Edition and other editions? (assuming that OS is not updated, but original that phone came with).
Thanks!
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I thought I would hate the dev edition back and buttons. I actually ended up really liking it once I got it.
I could also consider Developer edition because there are lots of nice back covers in black to choose from, but I can't find new phone, everything is used or fake advertised as new but just opened box and stuff like that..
Just picked up an XT1064 (the Consumer Cellular version) and it has the traditional black back cover on it and I'm a fan of yellow and black so, I spent the past 2 hours trying to track down one of the OEM "lemon-lime" back covers for the Moto G 2nd gen model and was unsuccessful. Seems crazy that they'd just disappear from the face of the earth but whatever so...
If anyone out there happens to have an actual Motorola OEM Lemon-Lime back cover for the Moto G 2nd gen XT1064 I'd be interested in acquiring it from you given the price isn't too crazy insane or if anyone can point me in the direction of actually locating one online from a reseller that would be awesome as well. I tried dozens of online sources and got nowhere, not even eBay has it in any of a dozen countries I checked against. Not sure why they're so hard to find but I suppose they just weren't all that popular.
Yes I realize there are other companies making yellow or similar replacement back covers but I always prefer to get the OEM hardware above cheap knockoff products. I don't intend to use a case on this phone, hence me just wanting the lemon-lime factory back cover.
Admins/Mods: if this post isn't allowed then by all means delete it as required.
Thanks for any help in tracking one of these back covers down, happy holidays to all...
Hello!
I am from brazil and its fairly easy to get one of these around here.
I also have a Moto G 2014.
I can buy the cover and then ship it to you, add me in whatsapp if you're interested. +55 21 96821-8571.
Kind Regards.
I don't use WhatsApp so I guess that won't work but thanks for the offer.
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I don't use WhatsApp so I guess that won't work but thanks for the offer.
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Or you could u know get whatsapp? It literally takes 30 seconds lol
Already got rid of the Moto G 2nd gen, got a 3rd gen now and of course in looking for the yellow shell for this phone it's out of stock everywhere as well. I've never seen anyone using a yellow shell except me on any Moto phone and yet I can't find 'em anywhere, that's just weird.
Anyway, can't find one for the Droid Turbo 2 I have either, guess I'll just give up and live with things the way they are.
Actually I have one. Bought 2 years ago at ebay.co.uk.
Green and yellow isn't the best color. In few weeks it became dirty with a lot of dust on the inside.
So I stopped use it.
Oh, and it makes the phone bulkier than stock one.