Who is getting the next NOTE or switch to another device? - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What's up peeps, who else is skipping the next Note? I know I am, sadly I will have to part ways with what I though would be the only phone I'd rather have. EvLeaks mentioned no SD card, and I am obviously reconsidering another device. My new device of choice is now the new Moto X Pure Edition. It has great specs and a way more cheaper price and doesn't lack SD card. And straight up its beefy. Looking at the leaks it'll be the same note with a glued back and no SD card. I am however keeping my note 4 what do you fellas think? Judging by the articles many people are going to leave samsung. I've been loyal since the s3. O well
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I was one of the very first on here to get the note 1. With this sad news, I am not sure what I get. But it's got to be something with a removable battery and SD card.

Add a poll. That might be enough to keep it up. Curious if most of us are bummed out.

I'm thinking maybe the g5 when it comes out.
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I have the Note 4 and have been VERY happy with it coming from the Note 3. I'm still on the original NK4 rooted with DK 4.2 rom. Im waiting for the 5.1.1 roms before I update it since doing the update will keep the phone fresh for me for quite some time. With that being said. I want the SD card, that's a must. I never have a need for removable battery as I get 7-8 hours of screen on time easily. I love the S Pen and I use it regularly THAT is the only reason i may consider Note without SD card but I'm more then likely looking at The Moto X Pure/Style if I were to upgrade. The LG G4 would have been a great option in my opinion if they just idn't go with the 808 SD. That processor just feels like an AMD chip instead of an Intel if you get my meaning.

Also been very happy with the specs and performance of the Note 4 so I will use it until it dies. Now in case it goes to the cellphone graveyard my number one choice would be the new Nexus 5 from LG, if the specs and look are exactly as the leaks have shown then it will be a great cost-effective phone. As a previous Nexus 5 owner i am inclined to it over any flagship phone out there.

I'm on the fence, as I love the Note series. I will probably still get the note 5,but I will definitely look at other options.
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I usually upgrade every year and was fully planning to get the note 5 until all these leaks starting coming out. No way in hell now, it'd be a downgrade. The mediocrity of the n5 has actually renewed my appreciation for how awesome my n4 is, so I'm more than happy to just hang on to the trusty old mare until she quits or until an actual worthy upgrade comes out. There's nothing out right now that really reels me in, maybe I'll upgrade if the G4 Pro comes out and is super incredible. Regardless I have a feeling this'll be my last Samsung phone, unless by some miracle they pull their heads out of their rears with the note 6.

Is there one thing in particular? Or just the cumulative effect of their poor choices?
For me the non removable battery is the primary reason. I hate not having a spare battery, drives me insane. I'm 50/50 on ordering one. I am definitely going to see what else I could use, but I've been with Sammy for so damn long...
Anyone have suggestions for a new phone? I was considering briefly the Nexus, or the new LG. I though I glanced at an article for the new LG that sounded like it had a stylus, I belive it was the LG G4 Note... Which I thought was odd.
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No SD card slot is a deal killer,
And battery not removable... well, that's just dumb!
Peace...

3,000 mah battery non removable battery with more cores to power than the note 4. Until something good comes out until then I'll keep the note 4. Out of everything a smaller battery

Moto x pure edition looks legit man, and has a expandable storage up to 128 with 64gb internal? Geez. If I go that route I would be getting a champagne trim with a red leather back and red accents lol. I love the note screen tho that's the thing that I really love. But that's why I'm keeping my note 4 till the mofkn wheels fall off! !!
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bonebeatz1234 said:
3,000 mah battery non removable battery with more cores to power than the note 4. Until something good comes out until then I'll keep the note 4. Out of everything a smaller battery
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How do you know the Note 5 won't have better battery life? Just because it has more cores doesn't mean it will have any less battery life. Optimization is key. If the new chipset is more efficient then that will equal better battery life. Just saying lets wait for the phone to be released (hell, even announced) before we rule it out.

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How do you know the Note 5 won't have better battery life? Just because it has more cores doesn't mean it will have any less battery life. Optimization is key. If the new chipset is more efficient then that will equal better battery life. Just saying lets wait for the phone to be released (hell, even announced) before we rule it out.
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From the lies of previous processors being more efficient I highly doubt they can make it last longer than the note 4 with all the extra juice to power.

I've been searching for contenders since finding out the S6 was sealed shut because I knew the Note line would follow. I narrowed it down to the LG G4 for the removable battery and expandable storage until recently. Now I'm actually considering switching everything I've known up and ~possibly~ go with a Windows phone. People either love them or hate them, and honestly I've never had one so I figure I might give it whirl. The 950XL seems promising for my needs but it all depends if those rumors are true too. Not to mention if T-Mobile will even carry it as I depend on WiFi calling. I've been with Samsung since the S2 and Android in general even longer so it'll definitely be a change all around. If all that doesn't pan out I'll probably still go with LG, but I'll see what's out when the time comes.
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Note 5 without removable battery and SD card kills everything that made this phone great. If my Note 4 should die I would look into the new LG Nexus 5. Specs looks good and the previous version was a solid phone.

Switching. Have the new X in my sights. Honestly I never wanted the note 4 in the first place, but it really was the best available phone (by quite a bit) at the time. Well, now, many others have caught up.The X might not be every bit as good, but it's pretty close, and it's $300 or more less expensive. I only use the stylus for BS anyways.
I already bought the new G for my son (shipped, will be here next week), and heck, if I like that, I may even just slum it and go that route. I'm kind of sick of what I spend on these flagship phones now a days.
Edit: like others have said, I'm even considering Windows 10 phone. But I think I'll give them at least 1 more generation before I make that jump.. Or start out with a budget one and use it as a backup or something and see how it goes.

Today was the first day I considered sticking with my N4.. but the horrible battery life I'm getting is just too great... if I could somehow get atleast 8 hrs SOT like I was before this lollipop update then I would highly consider sticking around longer... right now I'm running 128gb so I love the more than ample space I have and I do NOT like the non SD and non removable battery. ... this lollipop update has pushed me to buying a charging dock for this phone because the battery is so bad.

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Today was the first day I considered sticking with my N4.. but the horrible battery life I'm getting is just too great... if I could somehow get atleast 8 hrs SOT like I was before this lollipop update then I would highly consider sticking around longer... right now I'm running 128gb so I love the more than ample space I have and I do NOT like the non SD and non removable battery. ... this lollipop update has pushed me to buying a charging dock for this phone because the battery is so bad.
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Hardly anyone gets 8+ hrs. SOT. (unless they have an extended battery)
Battery life all depends on the individual user, everyone uses their phones differently and people have different
apps installed plus different personal setting like their brightness setting, auto screen off time, volume and so on.
An other big variable is the number of auto-start apps each of which consume different amounts of battery power
and run in the background. And lastly, remember that everyone uses their phones differently.
You do know that you can downgrade back to the odin flash official kitkat 4.4.4 firmware and re-root your phone,
flash twrp recovery and lastly flash one of the excellent kitkat custom roms found here in xda.
Now why didn't I think of that! LOL
Have a great day,
Good luck!

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If only 2,300mAh battery, will that stop you from buying N5 ?

I am a huge Nexus phone fan, having owned all four Nexus phones the last few years. But also have owned different phones in-between
But lately to me, long battery life has become my #1 most wanted feature. I hammer on my phone all day during the work week, and none of the Nexus phones last me a full day with my kind of use, and I do install custom ROM's with battery friendly kernels, etc.. still doesn't help.
My Nexus 4 I get around 4h On Screen Time, but only total usage of around 10h - 11h out of the battery before the phone is dead. So that sucks for me, unplug at 6:30am, and by 4:30pm it's pretty much done. My Galaxy Nexus was far worse than that, the G Nex blew on battery.
I use my phone, as an actual phone, go figure I can't understand people that rarely do phone calls, how can't you be on the phone anymore ? For running my business and dealing with clients, approx 2 hours of phone calls per day. GPS Navigation used every day, for at least one hour. Text like crazy all day. Read and send e-mails all day. Surf the web.
Only phone that could handle my type of use was the Note 2. That thing could be hammered hard on a workday and still be going until bedtime with juice still left. No other phone I owned could do that. But the Note was too large for my tastes, hard to one hand use.
Saying all of that, I need the Nexus 5 with the rumored option for 3,000mAh + 32GB storage. But now it sounds like that rumor has been squashed. So I might get the G2 instead, and run a ported Nexus 5 ROM down the road.
battery
I have a note1, running official 4.12 with a different kernel. Battery isn't bad, but I usually never let it get below 50% without at least tapping it a little bit during the day.
Perhaps part of the reason (if it holds true, these aren't official specs) of the smaller battery is maybe 4.4 is a little less power
hungry, or the SOC inside the device, the memory etc, consume less power?
Of course! I'm all set with multiple cheap battery banks strategically placed at work, in the car, and in my briefcase for those times I need the battery boost.
As cheap as $5.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RED-2600mah..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item485af1789d
Nope i will defenitly buy one *-*
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I am a huge Nexus phone fan, having owned all four Nexus phones the last few years. But also have owned different phones in-between
But lately to me, long battery life has become my #1 most wanted feature. I hammer on my phone all day during the work week, and none of the Nexus phones last me a full day with my kind of use, and I do install custom ROM's with battery friendly kernels, etc.. still doesn't help.
My Nexus 4 I get around 4h On Screen Time, but only total usage of around 10h - 11h out of the battery before the phone is dead. So that sucks for me, unplug at 6:30am, and by 4:30pm it's pretty much done. My Galaxy Nexus was far worse than that, the G Nex blew on battery.
I use my phone, as an actual phone, go figure I can't understand people that rarely do phone calls, how can't you be on the phone anymore ? For running my business and dealing with clients, approx 2 hours of phone calls per day. GPS Navigation used every day, for at least one hour. Text like crazy all day. Read and send e-mails all day. Surf the web.
Only phone that could handle my type of use was the Note 2. That thing could be hammered hard on a workday and still be going until bedtime with juice still left. No other phone I owned could do that. But the Note was too large for my tastes, hard to one hand use.
Saying all of that, I need the Nexus 5 with the rumored option for 3,000mAh + 32GB storage. But now it sounds like that rumor has been squashed. So I might get the G2 instead, and run a ported Nexus 5 ROM down the road.
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I agree with you 200%.
I currently have a GS3 with a 3,000mAh Samsung extended battery and I can do the all day. I was not able to do with 2100 stock.
If 2300 will be confirmed and if they'll not be able two do some crazy optimisation, I'll get a G2 or Z1. My concern is that AOSP on these two devices is zero at the moment.
As 64gb is out of discussion as well as sd card espansion, USB OTG will be very important as 32GB are not enough for me!
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Zorachus said:
I am a huge Nexus phone fan, having owned all four Nexus phones the last few years. But also have owned different phones in-between
But lately to me, long battery life has become my #1 most wanted feature. I hammer on my phone all day during the work week, and none of the Nexus phones last me a full day with my kind of use, and I do install custom ROM's with battery friendly kernels, etc.. still doesn't help.
My Nexus 4 I get around 4h On Screen Time, but only total usage of around 10h - 11h out of the battery before the phone is dead. So that sucks for me, unplug at 6:30am, and by 4:30pm it's pretty much done. My Galaxy Nexus was far worse than that, the G Nex blew on battery.
I use my phone, as an actual phone, go figure I can't understand people that rarely do phone calls, how can't you be on the phone anymore ? For running my business and dealing with clients, approx 2 hours of phone calls per day. GPS Navigation used every day, for at least one hour. Text like crazy all day. Read and send e-mails all day. Surf the web.
Only phone that could handle my type of use was the Note 2. That thing could be hammered hard on a workday and still be going until bedtime with juice still left. No other phone I owned could do that. But the Note was too large for my tastes, hard to one hand use.
Saying all of that, I need the Nexus 5 with the rumored option for 3,000mAh + 32GB storage. But now it sounds like that rumor has been squashed. So I might get the G2 instead, and run a ported Nexus 5 ROM down the road.
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Agree on the way a phone should be used and my usage pattern is similar to yours. I can hardly get through a day on a single charge and I would be out of juice by 6-7pm. However, battery life is no concern to me (and many others) at all. I mean, how far are you from an outlet at all times? I have a charger in the office, in my car, in my briefcase and on several strategic locations at home. We switch phones pretty much on an annual basis. The battery won't die in one year regardless of your abuse. So charge your phone whenever you can and ask for smaller batteries for a smaller lighter phones. Also from what I have seen for G2 battery life, at 2300mah the N5 might have enough juice for you and I to go through a day on a single charge.
vittogn said:
I agree with you 200%.
I currently have a GS3 with a 3,000mAh Samsung extended battery and I can do the all day. I was not able to do with 2100 stock.
If 2300 will be confirmed and if they'll not be able two do some crazy optimisation, I'll get a G2 or Z1. My concern is that AOSP on these two devices is zero at the moment.
As 64gb is out of discussion as well as sd card espansion, USB OTG will be very important as 32GB are not enough for me!
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Yep.
I am more sad, because the N5 is based off the G2, which has a 3,000mAh battery stock. Of all things to cut back on, and not keep the same between the two phones, don't let it be the battery.
What is Googles reasoning behind changing the battery from the G2 in the Nexus 5 ?
Oh well, looks like G2 here I come. And development will pick up big on that phone. Its only been out a few weeks, and the international G2 just came out last week.
Let's see a Nexus 5 ROM posted on the G2, since they are so similar.
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Zorachus said:
Yep.
I am more sad, because the N5 is based off the G2, which has a 3,000mAh battery stock. Of all things to cut back on, and not keep the same between the two phones, don't let it be the battery.
What is Googles reasoning behind changing the battery from the G2 in the Nexus 5 ?
Oh well, looks like G2 here I come. And development will pick up big on that phone. Its only been out a few weeks, and the international G2 just came out last week.
Let's see a Nexus 5 ROM posted on the G2, since they are so similar.
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Is the G2 bootloader locked?
Any way the best AOSP rom is always 4-6 month behind Nexus updates!
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Zorachus said:
Yep.
What is Googles reasoning behind changing the battery from the G2 in the Nexus 5 ?
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N5 is over and inch narrower and and nearly 3 inches shorter. Maybe it has to do with lack of real estate. Besides if we deduct from G2 we should expect 7.5-8h sot.:fingers-crossed:
vittogn said:
Is the G2 bootloader locked?
Any way the best AOSP rom is always 4-6 month behind Nexus updates!
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CM and AOKP ROM's are pretty quick to release new builds, based off the latest Android release. Its not a 4 month wait, maybe 4 weeks worse case.
The G2 is unlocked on T-Mobile, and International version. The ATT version has an exploit out, and said to be easy to root and the work around hasn't stopped custom ROM development.
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I'll be waiting for nexus 6.
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I just hope that if the battery is this size, that it will at least be able to take a 2.1 amp charge.
It won't affect my decision at all. The battery life on my N4 lasts the entire day on a full charge with moderate on-screen usage, plus I'd rather them sacrifice battery life and megapixels in order to have a quad core beast with a 1080p HD display for the low price of $299.
I'll be buying the Nexus 5 day one, can't wait!
I would buy it even if the battery was the same as the N4. All these battery nerds are getting way too worried about a phone they haven't even used yet. I guarantee that we will not care if you cry about the 2300 battery, have fun in the N4 forum, we will be here, the future.
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I would buy it even if the battery was the same as the N4. All these battery nerds are getting way too worried about a phone they haven't even used yet. I guarantee that we will not care if you cry about the 2300 battery, have fun in the N4 forum, we will be here, the future.
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The future is technically A57/53, 64bit, U-HD, etc...But sure, let's call N5 the "future". If I wanted future I probably would bet on the faster A7x chip. Sadly androids can't use it too...
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No. 2300mah will not stop me.
According to anandtech the lg g2 gets 7.9 hrs of battery life on lte web browsing. If you just reduce this proportionally the nexus 5 could get 6 hrs web browsing on LTE which is like double what my gnex gets.
Some people clearly spend every waking minute doing everything they can think of on their phone. The Nexus 5 probably won't work for those people but I expect it to be competitive with the last batch of mainstream flagships, aka the HTC one and galaxy s4. I think Google wanted a thin phone and just like the nexus 7 2013 they reduced the battery size to achieve this goal but only up to the point where battery life would be acceptable for like 90% of users.
I'm getting it no matter what battery it has...even solar!
I'm definitely getting one, my current phone has a 1500 mah battery... so 2300 is a major upgrade for me
Yes
:good: YESSIR! Been waiting on this since first hearing about it, never owned a Nexus device and currently own a Samsung Galaxy Young S6310L, hate Touchwiz & looking for the best stock experience and to start with Android 4.4? Great deal and this phone has a 1300mAh battery so a 2300/3000mAh upgrade should be great, going for the 32gb version which is rumored to have a 3000mAh battery so yes
Looking forward to see what developers has in store for it and maybe I can become one someday

Tried S6, thinking of returning it for Nexus 6

Good morning all,
I purchased my next new device over the weekend- white 32gb Galaxy S6. I absolutely love the phone. It is beautiful on the outside, and MOST of what is inside it, I love as well. My issue is with battery life. Now I know there have already been tons of reports of bad battery life leading up to the actual release. I had written these off as people who didn't know how to properly manage battery life. I knew battery life wouldn't be as good as what I am used to, but I never thought it would be as bad as it is. I am having to leave all the usuals turned of (wifi, bluetooth, location, ect.). No biggie. I am also having to go as far as using the app that turns off pixels in the display to conserve battery life. Even with this, I am getting less than 4 hours of screen on time. Just browsing the net, I can watch my percentage drop rather quickly.
This brings me to the reason for my post. I had originally wanted the Nexus 6. I had been waiting for it to drop on Big Red, so I didn't have to shave down a SIM card, or go through the hassle of explaining to Verizon, "Yes you will allow me to use this device on your network, even though you do not currently offer it." Well right around the time I was ready to make the N6 purchase, I found myself in Best Buy and saw they had a display of the new S6. I went over to check it out, fully thinking I am going to think this device is a joke. Well it wasn't a joke, and that is how I ended up with it.
All this being said, should I go ahead and pick up the N6, or wait for the next flagship to launch? The main thing that has me unsure at the moment is the outdated 32 bit Snapdragon 805 chipset. Now I know this is still a very capable chip, but am I being dumb for blowing $650 on a phone that is already one generation behind in the processor world? I always buy my phone at full retail to avoid losing my unlimited data with Big Red.
Am I making a mistake or should I get it and never look back, while enjoying the pure Android bliss?
How do you figure that 805 is "outdated" or "one generation behind"? 805 is the CURRENT STATE OF THE ART and won't be passed until you start to see the 820 come to market. No, 810 is not a new generation, its just a stopgap to satisfy everybody too dumb to realize that 64bit doesn't do anything useful for a cellphone. Its actually a crappy chip that sucks up way too much power.
The 820 is *actually* the next generation of mobile chip, which improves performance and power consumption compared to the 805.
jonmike13 said:
Good morning all,
I purchased my next new device over the weekend- white 32gb Galaxy S6. I absolutely love the phone. It is beautiful on the outside, and MOST of what is inside it, I love as well. My issue is with battery life. Now I know there have already been tons of reports of bad battery life leading up to the actual release. I had written these off as people who didn't know how to properly manage battery life. I knew battery life wouldn't be as good as what I am used to, but I never thought it would be as bad as it is. I am having to leave all the usuals turned of (wifi, bluetooth, location, ect.). No biggie. I am also having to go as far as using the app that turns off pixels in the display to conserve battery life. Even with this, I am getting less than 4 hours of screen on time. Just browsing the net, I can watch my percentage drop rather quickly.
This brings me to the reason for my post. I had originally wanted the Nexus 6. I had been waiting for it to drop on Big Red, so I didn't have to shave down a SIM card, or go through the hassle of explaining to Verizon, "Yes you will allow me to use this device on your network, even though you do not currently offer it." Well right around the time I was ready to make the N6 purchase, I found myself in Best Buy and saw they had a display of the new S6. I went over to check it out, fully thinking I am going to think this device is a joke. Well it wasn't a joke, and that is how I ended up with it.
All this being said, should I go ahead and pick up the N6, or wait for the next flagship to launch? The main thing that has me unsure at the moment is the outdated 32 bit Snapdragon 805 chipset. Now I know this is still a very capable chip, but am I being dumb for blowing $650 on a phone that is already one generation behind in the processor world? I always buy my phone at full retail to avoid losing my unlimited data with Big Red.
Am I making a mistake or should I get it and never look back, while enjoying the pure Android bliss?
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Both are very good phones but very different. The Galaxy has the best screen and a good cpu and the Nexus has better speakers and no bloatware. If you like to tinker the nexus is the one for you and if you don`t the S6 is your phone. Mind that KNOX registers the rooting process and it may void warranty dependent on where you live.
The Nexus is overall a great phone with good batterylife (user dependable) a good screen, good speakers and its very snappy and fluid. You can`t go wrong with either phones but it all depends on how you use the phone and what you want to do with it.
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Both are very good phones but very different. The Galaxy has the best screen and a good cpu and the Nexus has better speakers and no bloatware. If you like to tinker the nexus is the one for you and if you don`t the S6 is your phone. Mind that KNOX registers the rooting process and it may void warranty dependent on where you live.
The Nexus is overall a great phone with a good screen, good speakers and its very snappy and fluid. You can`t go wrong with either phones but it all depends on how you use the phone and what you want to do with it.
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This. You can't go wrong with most phones these days it just depends on what you want. Other than the camera, ignore the specs and ask yourself do you want a larger phone with pure android? Or do you want a smaller one with TouchWiz? Also, considering you're on Verizon, the S6 bootloader most likely won't be unlocked and root will be a challenge.
With that being said, I switched from the Note 4 to the Nexus 6. The Note screen and camera were much better than the Nexus 6, but I prefer stock Android and being able to unlock the bootloader and root. After waiting months hoping for someone to obtain root I finally gave up and switched and don't plan on going back.
I appreciate all the responses guys. I am coming from a Note 3 and I have always liked the larger phones, and in turn I am used to bigger batteries and longer battery life. I did not know that the Snapdragon 810 wasn't a new generation chip. I appreciate the clarification on that. I definitely prefer what the Nexus 6 has to offer, but I guess I was worried it would be outdated much quicker than the S6. I was lured into the S6 by their in-house chipset that seems to be crushing everything it is put up against in benchmark testing, and the fact that the build quality and design seems to be on par with an iPhone. I kind of thought of it as an iPhone running android because of how much the design has changed over the previous S5.
im sort of in the same boat.. im coming from a GS4 so anything will be an upgrade for me. my phone is pissing me off and im dealing with a stuck power button issue so the phone randomly shuts off and wont turn back on. was debating GS6 vs N6 but knowing on verizon i cant root or unlock the bootloader i think im going N6
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I appreciate all the responses guys. I am coming from a Note 3 and I have always liked the larger phones, and in turn I am used to bigger batteries and longer battery life. I did not know that the Snapdragon 810 wasn't a new generation chip. I appreciate the clarification on that. I definitely prefer what the Nexus 6 has to offer, but I guess I was worried it would be outdated much quicker than the S6. I was lured into the S6 by their in-house chipset that seems to be crushing everything it is put up against in benchmark testing, and the fact that the build quality and design seems to be on par with an iPhone. I kind of thought of it as an iPhone running android because of how much the design has changed over the previous S5.
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One thing of note is that most oems are aware when a benchmark is being run and have background processes (for lack of a proper term) kick in to falsely boost the results. If you google the idea, you will find tons of results from Samsung, HTC, and I'm sure many others.
Cant really go off benchmarks, even though I still run them on any new phone I am considering purchasing lol
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One thing of note is that most oems are aware when a benchmark is being run and have background processes (for lack of a proper term) kick in to falsely boost the results. If you google the idea, you will find tons of results from Samsung, HTC, and I'm sure many others.
Cant really go off benchmarks, even though I still run them on any new phone I am considering purchasing lol
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Good bit of information to keep in mind. I did not know that.
dansan382 said:
im sort of in the same boat.. im coming from a GS4 so anything will be an upgrade for me. my phone is pissing me off and im dealing with a stuck power button issue so the phone randomly shuts off and wont turn back on. was debating GS6 vs N6 but knowing on verizon i cant root or unlock the bootloader i think im going N6
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I am not sure how your current battery life is, but this S6 has been far from what I expected. I am using that app to disable pixels, which causes the screen to look bad. This makes me think, what is the point in buying this awesome phone if you have to disable most of its great features in order to get it to last all day. Since you are on Verizon, you will be happy to know that they have the Nexus 6 for $599 as opposed to $649 through the Google Play store. That is if you are okay with having the blue color, since Verizon does not offer the white one.
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I am not sure how your current battery life is, but this S6 has been far from what I expected. I am using that app to disable pixels, which causes the screen to look bad. This makes me think, what is the point in buying this awesome phone if you have to disable most of its great features in order to get it to last all day. Since you are on Verizon, you will be happy to know that they have the Nexus 6 for $599 as opposed to $649 through the Google Play store. That is if you are okay with having the blue color, since Verizon does not offer the white one.
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my battery life on my GS4 is not great at all, actually its pretty bad. Im running cm11 roms and this stuff is buggy as heck so thats not helping either. I wasn't impressed with the GS6 when I played with it in the verizon store, just didnt blow me away. plus i hate touchwiz.
I will be buying my nexus 6 from motorola, as I want white. I just really dont like that blue/purpleish tint to the MB version. I really wish they offered black but sadly that isn't happening. I'll probably just get a cool dbrand wrap as well.
for those who have ordered from motorola, from the time you placed the order how long did it take to arrive at your door? Im debating if I should mail it to my house or my job as I know they will need a signature and nobody will be home.
I've always had galaxy devices but looked to nexus this time. The only thing that i dislike the phone is no ext sdcard. Once i got over that. I love the n6 and will not go to a galaxy device again. The knox thing made my life hell with the s4. The s5 was a bit easier to deal with roit and all but tw lag was unbearable especially compared to my friends n5. Battery is great on the n6 granted it's bigger than the previous phones i had. Took me awhile to get used to the bigger phone. On 5.1 stock rooted encrypted and the performance is more than satisfying
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I've always had galaxy devices but looked to nexus this time. The only thing that i dislike the phone is no ext sdcard. Once i got over that. I love the n6 and will not go to a galaxy device again. The knox thing made my life hell with the s4. The s5 was a bit easier to deal with roit and all but tw lag was unbearable especially compared to my friends n5. Battery is great on the n6 granted it's bigger than the previous phones i had. Took me awhile to get used to the bigger phone. On 5.1 stock rooted encrypted and the performance is more than satisfying
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thanks for your feedback. ive had this GS4 since launch date and thankfully I was able to unlock the bootloader before they plugged that hole up. I dont mind not having an SD card as I had a Galaxy Nexus before the GS4. I also have never swapped batteries so i dont mind losing the removable battery especially since the nexus battery is huge. Also turbo charger and wireless charging is a nice thing to have. I'd probably use it just like you have, root it and unlock the bootloader. I just want stock android without having to use custom roms.
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thanks for your feedback. ive had this GS4 since launch date and thankfully I was able to unlock the bootloader before they plugged that hole up. I dont mind not having an SD card as I had a Galaxy Nexus before the GS4. I also have never swapped batteries so i dont mind losing the removable battery especially since the nexus battery is huge. Also turbo charger and wireless charging is a nice thing to have. I'd probably use it just like you have, root it and unlock the bootloader. I just want stock android without having to use custom roms.
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The turbo charger is great. I only use it once in awhile most of the time I'm wireless charging. With my galaxy phones i ended up making it look and run like a nexus device as much as i could. My friend convinced me that i should just get the n6 and try it. So much nicer and easier when it comes to updates too. Definitely don't regret the n6. And I'm very pleased with 5.1
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Just to chime in, I also came from the Note 3. I was in a real pickle as I didn't want to have a phone without a sd card but root was more important as it's beginning to look you'll catch a unicorn before anything Samsung gets rooted on Verizon...:silly: Anyway, rooting this device was the easiest I've ever done and I just bought a Meenova adapter and still use my sd card with that when I need it. I look at it as you have to give to get, if you want root on Big Red you may have to give up something and what I gave up wasn't all that bad in the end for the freedom I now have. Just some thoughts from me.
P.S. - Plus I don't want to have to give up my signature....
Curious if anyone has gone the other way switching from N6 to S6. I am considering it, but I don't want to rush into it. I know the pros and cons of each, but I'm just wondering if anyone switched from N6 to S6 and has a good experience.
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Curious if anyone has gone the other way switching from N6 to S6. I am considering it, but I don't want to rush into it. I know the pros and cons of each, but I'm just wondering if anyone switched from N6 to S6 and has a good experience.
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Obviously I cannot help with going from the N6 to the S6, but I will try to report back once I get the N6 and let you know how the two devices compare and if there was anything I preferred on the S6.
All I can say is, an an att retail employee, I still think the N6 is the best overall phone right now. Camera isn't terribly important to me, screen quality, screen size, battery life, and customization is what I look for and N6 wins in all 4 categories. The N6 still has a QHD screen and the size is great for gaming or netflix/YouTube. Just my two cents, I'm either going to get the m9 (half off purchase program for wireless employees with free upgrade every year... No contract) due to bootloader situation, purchase a N6 for my personal device or wait for one-plus-two. S6 is nice, but mostly hype, IMHO.
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Curious if anyone has gone the other way switching from N6 to S6. I am considering it, but I don't want to rush into it. I know the pros and cons of each, but I'm just wondering if anyone switched from N6 to S6 and has a good experience.
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I did for one week then went back to my N6. The S6 is very nice. The N6 is a much better software experience IF you favor stock android. That's what it came down to for me.
Thanks for this thread you guys! Exactly why I love xda! Currently have the Nexus 5 after owning the Galaxy S1, S2 and S4. Couldn't be more happy with the Nexus 5 but battery life is pretty terrible for me on that device. I sneak around the Nexus 6 as I would like the bigger screen, better battery and better speaker but after seeing the Galaxy S6 I was also torn towards that a bit. This thread is really helpful for me and so far I think Nexus 6 is the way to go.
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Thanks for this thread you guys! Exactly why I love xda! Currently have the Nexus 5 after owning the Galaxy S1, S2 and S4. Couldn't be more happy with the Nexus 5 but battery life is pretty terrible for me on that device. I sneak around the Nexus 6 as I would like the bigger screen, better battery and better speaker but after seeing the Galaxy S6 I was also torn towards that a bit. This thread is really helpful for me and so far I think Nexus 6 is the way to go.
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Go for it and don't look back! Now I am stuck paying a $35 restock fee on this S6, but I think it will be worth it.

Any note 4 users getting nexus 6p?

Lonnnng time note user here. Had note 2, 3, and 4. Think I'm going the nexus route. Samsung has been good to me but.......what are your thoughts note 4 users?
No removable battery and no SD card=no sale. I'm hoping LG V10 pro is 6"but I'll probably go LG next time.
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It's one of the phones on my "maybe" list. The 128gb model isn't too horrendously expensive, so I could probably live with it. I'm definitely going to wait and see what else LG comes out with though.
I'm just not feeling the LG stuff anymore. It kills me that these companies drop expandable memory like a bad habit.
Yup. I ordered the 6P in graphite with 128 GBs, shortly after the site went live. I can deal with the no SD card and irremovable battery since it's 3450 mAh.
Plus, the screen is from Samsung's latest gen so it's better than the Note 4's screen. The Nexus imprint and front facing speakers are amazing, and I won't have to rely on T-mobile to push out updates. Can't believe most of us have to flash a custom rom to be up to date with 5.1.1. The days of waiting are finally over.
I am however going to miss my S-Pen. Doodling in snapchat will be sorely missed
Waiting for Google to decide that sales aren't good enough via Internet and sell through the carriers so I can Jump.
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No one thinks it is weird that the LG V10, a premium device, is going to use the same processor and GPU combination as the Nexus 5X but with twice the resolution and twice the RAM? When someone tells me that they can't run a game on their PC I don't ask them how much RAM they have. Someone, somewhere thinks throwing more RAM in it is a cost-saving upgrade for sluggishness.
If people buy this phone it sends the message that we don't care what silicon is in the phone as long as it "feels premium" and that is a ridiculous notion. Seriously, check out these tests: http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G4-benchmarked---how-does-the-Snapdragon-808-fare_id68814 It wins in a few categories and but loses in GPU testing. At least get the 14nm Samsung Exynos if you're going to upgrade.
I ordered the silver one with 128gb. I miss having pure Android. I never rooted and flashed any ROMs on my Note 4 b/c I didn't want to lose wifi calling, but now that it's baked into Marshmallow, getting the 6P was a no brainer for me. Would have loved it in the 5X form, but oh well. I thought I would use the functionality the Note 4 more than I did; I barely use the S Pen. The only thing I might miss would be the ability to have two or more apps open at the same time, but I'm sure there is or will be an app for that.
You guys get it report back on your experience. I'm going for the 6p as well.
Nah, just going to stick with the Note 4 probably till the end of next year. I like the Nexus', but I don't /love/ them. Too many compromises. Nothing has really come out that makes me go "damn i need that!"..
^other than the timely updates.
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Maybe. That processor is a let down IMO, I would have preferred the exynos. Front facing speakers, 128gb well priced...strong maybe. Not sure if it will be "faster" than my note 4 with a custom ROM. I want to get off Samsung for awhile to show my disdain for them screwing up the note series ( I have owned all four iterations).
Im probably going to get the LG V10. Has the IR blaster, removable battery, micro sd, fingerprint, great camera and features. Only downside i see is that its using Snapdragon 808 which is getting outdated.
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I told myself that I am getting a Nexus this time around because I'm tired of dealing/waiting on a 3rd party for fixes/updates and I miss the huge amount of development. The last Nexus I had was the 5, which was also my first, and I loved that phone. I ended up replacing it for a HTC ONE (M8) and then I tried like hell to get the Nexus 6 when it came out, but then I went with the Note 4 because it was a little better and I was tired of waiting.
The whole thing with the removable battery and SD card slot has become more of a nuisance lately rather than something I look for. I would much rather carry around a battery pack than an extra battery because I feel that it's more convenient and has more features... My phone isn't the only I carry around that needs charged. And with the phone being available with 128GB I see no need for an SD card slot anymore... I have a 64GB card in my Note 4 right now and it's only 3/4 of the way full.
Ultimately it came down to the quality of the device along with the service it comes with and the dual front-facing speakers that I sorely miss from my HTC ONEs... and who knows, I might just try out ProjectFi.
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Im probably going to get the LG V10. Has the IR blaster, removable battery, micro sd, fingerprint, great camera and features. Only downside i see is that its using Snapdragon 808 which is getting outdated.
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How is the 808 outdated lol? It's comparable to the 810 and both are more than capable of handing anything and everything... you're not missing out on anything. Even if the 820/620 were to come out tomorrow the only thing you'd be really missing out on, that's even remotely noticeable, is better power efficiency.
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I told myself that I am getting a Nexus this time around because I'm tired of dealing/waiting on a 3rd party for fixes/updates and I miss the huge amount of development. The last Nexus I had was the 5, which was also my first, and I loved that phone. I ended up replacing it for a HTC ONE (M8) and then I tried like hell to get the Nexus 6 when it came out, but then I went with the Note 4 because it was a little better and I was tired of waiting.
The whole thing with the removable battery and SD card slot has become more of a nuisance lately rather than something I look for. I would much rather carry around a battery pack than an extra battery because I feel that it's more convenient and has more features... My phone isn't the only I carry around that needs charged. And with the phone being available with 128GB I see no need for an SD card slot anymore... I have a 64GB card in my Note 4 right now and it's only 3/4 of the way full.
Ultimately it came down to the quality of the device along with the service it comes with and the dual front-facing speakers that I sorely miss from my HTC ONEs... and who knows, I might just try out ProjectFi.
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How is the 808 outdated lol? It's comparable to the 810 and both are more than capable of handing anything and everything... you're not missing out on anything. Even if the 820/620 were to come out tomorrow the only thing you'd be really missing out on, that's even remotely noticeable, is better power efficiency.
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Not outdated yet but a year from now it will lol. Otherwise unless Samsung brings back micro sd and qualcomm processor for development im jumping ship.
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Not outdated yet but a year from now it will lol. Otherwise unless Samsung brings back micro sd and qualcomm processor for development im jumping ship.
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I highly doubt any software within the next 2 years will need any more power than we currently have. The 810 was announced in April of 2014, but I don't think it was until July '14 that it was actually in a device. A year from now the 810 will only be 2 years old, but still far from outdated/worthless.
I like keeping my phone update to the newest and most secured firmware. I don't believe I should have to wait six months to a year to get that. So, yes I will be switching. And will be going to project fi.
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Nah I'm going to give my wife the note 4 I'm tired of Samsung bullcrap too much bloat.. I know people said rood but I shouldn't have to deal with that
I'll get one as a backup device... It can't replace my Note 4 for functionality.
Of course I'll wait until user reviews are out. I no longer feel the need to buy a device the day it's up for presale.
UPDATE: Now I'm looking at the new WIndows Phone... That may be a better backup device.
I most Def would get it but since you can only purchase online and you can't jump to it imma wait for the next phone that isn't Samsung

What's your next device? Note 7 or something else?

I'm assuming a lot of you are like me, and have had the Note 4 close to 2 years now- close to paid for... wondering if anyone is considering getting a Note 7 or something else and why?
I was all excited about upgrading to a Note 7 but the limited research I've done based on the S7 is the bootloader will probably be locked meaning no root, no roms, etc... so now I'm not sure if I just stick it out a while long with my Note 4 or look elsewhere for another device? (nexus ###?)
Comments appreciated.
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I'm assuming a lot of you are like me, and have had the Note 4 close to 2 years now- close to paid for... wondering if anyone is considering getting a Note 7 or something else and why?
I was all excited about upgrading to a Note 7 but the limited research I've done based on the S7 is the bootloader will probably be locked meaning no root, no roms, etc... so now I'm not sure if I just stick it out a while long with my Note 4 or look elsewhere for another device? (nexus ###?)
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It's a pain in the butt shopping for where to go from the Note 4. Where, oh where, is it's successor? I so hate the idea of a non-replaceable battery. Maybe, if it wouldn't be too grueling to take my next "sealed" phone apart to replace the dang thing. The next big screen Nexus? Arrrgggghhhhhh!
Well if I didn't just post a lengthy reply to a similar question in the Intl. forum! (In fact I did; this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/moving-to-flagship-t3404126 my ramblings are the first post on page 4 ) Bullet points:
* I think the Note 4 is (still, 2 years in) a great device and I plan on keeping mine after making my last few payments. It will be a super fancy universal IR remote... ...among other things Definitely no shortage of ways to repurpose an old/extra Android device.
* I really hope the upcoming Nexus has expandable storage... I could see that happening this year with Google's "adoptable storage" (and other OEM's failing to... adopt it ) It's equally possible that I just really want that to happen. Either way, if it does, the larger screen version will be my next phone.
* The Note 7 looks beastly and if it doesn't have a locked bootloader I might go for it. The thing is, I'd really like to avoid buying anything from TMO aside from service... ya know, "vote with my wallet" against their abysmally late updates. I have a "new" Tab S2 TMO variant that's now the only model of that tablet that hasn't been updated to MM yet, making it as well as my N4 dead last (including other carriers) to receive the 10 month old OS. No way I can throw down up front for a $$$ N7 though, and I did do a couple of exchanges with the TMO insurance that were super easy, so bootloader unlocked = maybe, locked = not. a. chance. (not that I'd ever pay money for a "computer" that locks me out from self-administration, but particularly since I trust TMO 0% wrt updates and may need to handle that myself.)
* Option 3 = ??? Hoping to find the following: strong/friendly development community, expandable storage, >= 5.5" quality display, standard headphone port (IMO it's ridiculous that dropping this is becoming "a thing" w/o a superior replacement), and "good" battery life. Hopefully not asking too much in 2016, sure was in 2015.
Currently leaning towards a Nexus I suppose... not really in any rush to move on from the N4. Oh and definitely agree @steven.m - sealed battery = planned obsolescence but (clearly) any phone without a completely impractical metal unibody is simply not "PREMIUM" enough for... something something... of today! Note that a removable battery isn't even on my "wish list"... I was trying to make it realistic
I'll keep this N4 until it's dead. Then I'll most likely look at Nexus, HTC or Moto devices. About the only thing I'll miss is the WiFi calling.
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Xiaomi Mi Max for me
Xiaomi Mi Max 6.5 inches of Android goodness, plus removable battery and sd card support. Samsung has iphoned their way out of my hands. If I wanted a iphone I would have bought a iphone, but such is life. Wife has s7 edge and she keeps telling me it is the worst phone she has ever owned. With that in house review why would I buy a Note 7?
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Xiaomi Mi Max 6.5 inches of Android goodness, plus removable battery and sd card support. Samsung has iphoned their way out of my hands. If I wanted a iphone I would have bought a iphone, but such is life. Wife has s7 edge and she keeps telling me it is the worst phone she has ever owned. With that in house review why would I buy a Note 7?
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I'll have to look that model up- I don't know Xiaomi, but maybe I will get to know them. :highfive:
Edit: Hmmm.... love the size of the screen, but not QHD.... and battery not removable. Close, but I dunno.
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I'll have to look that model up- I don't know Xiaomi, but maybe I will get to know them. :highfive:
Edit: Hmmm.... love the size of the screen, but not QHD.... and battery not removable. Close, but I dunno.
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Dang just did another spec search and you are right http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max-8057.php says non-removable battery. What is up with that, cheaper to produce?
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says non-removable battery. What is up with that, cheaper to produce?
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Yes, and the capacity can be battery capacity can be maximised this way since they don't have to make provisions for the battery to be removed.
I think I'm done with Samsung for now. Waiting for the Note 4 MM update this long and the fact that they basically abandoned the Galaxy Tab Pro six months after they released it have really turned me off.
I think I'll be trying one of the 'upstart' manufacturers. I've been considering the Huawei Mate line for a while now, but their software has always been a drawback (but at least they update it). Now I've been reading that they are making software and their EMUI skin a priority as they attempt to break into the US/NA market. I look forward to seeing what they've got. Also, T-Mobile specific versions of any phone seem to not get nearly as much development, which is understandable. But I think I'll get an unlocked international phone next time.
I will be keeping my Note 4 (just like I still have my Note 3) for use with the virtual reality headset that I will be getting. It still has enough processing power and a very good screen resolution for that type of activity.
I'm thinking about the zenfone 3 ultra 6.8inch monster lol
The note 7 isn't on my radar, I too am think of going with a nexus if it has a memory card slot but all of this won't be for a while as I just traded in my s7 ( which was part of bogo ) and got my note 4 back that I jumped about 6 months ago. I missed it so much I will keep it for ever, even after its paid off. I also have the s7 edge which just became rootable so I might play with it for a while but it's my work phone and I have until November before I can jump again but it won't be a Sammy phone. I don't really like the s7 edge as those edges are a real nightmare unless you have a case on it you will have accidental touches that will drive you crazy. I'll hold on to my note 4 until next year and then start looking.
I didn't realize the s7 had been rooted
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I think I'm done with Samsung for now. Waiting for the Note 4 MM update this long and the fact that they basically abandoned the Galaxy Tab Pro six months after they released it have really turned me off.
I think I'll be trying one of the 'upstart' manufacturers. I've been considering the Huawei Mate line for a while now, but their software has always been a drawback (but at least they update it). Now I've been reading that they are making software and their EMUI skin a priority as they attempt to break into the US/NA market. I look forward to seeing what they've got. Also, T-Mobile specific versions of any phone seem to not get nearly as much development, which is understandable. But I think I'll get an unlocked international phone next time.
I will be keeping my Note 4 (just like I still have my Note 3) for use with the virtual reality headset that I will be getting. It still has enough processing power and a very good screen resolution for that type of activity.
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I have the Honor 5x which is from Huawei also., bought it a few months to test, for $200 premium looking, metal casing, 2 sim slots and external sd... but no removable battery and we are supposed to get MM any day now..
but yes I think I want a google phone, but it has to have external sd, maybe I can deal with non removable battery, but who knows. and they better start lowering prices of phones, they would sell more and sell every year selling at about $500.. that's just me thinking out load.. :silly:
because I have my father in law had the S2 very outdated and giving him problems.., so off went my note 3 which was my sons, so he plays with it,
I started with HTC, had almost every single phone till the M7, then moved to Samsung from S2, S3, Note 2, 3, 4.. and on the Notes had 2 of each, for me and my wife.. also with the M7.. I have paid to much on phones and then they don't take care of the updates which the dev do it better than Samsung is very disappointing since manufacturing them is really under $200 coming from the take downs of the devices.. way to much profit, then they expect us, to buy new phones every year...
try to return a new phone u buy in T-Mobile, they offer u half of less after 3 or 4 months then they sell it back as certified phones for double than what they paid getting it back from you... really sucks..
remember a phone is for making phone calls......
I have a pc, laptop,
2 tablets Samsung as well, and they stop with the updates after a year. u get lucky maybe give it a year 2 or 3 months...
super surprised about this MM update on our phones giving that we are almost on our 2 year.. very surprised, guess they are trying to say we will support them longer... remember Note 4 came with KitKat, then Lollipop, and now MM... wow....
darn even apple updates the phones till the older phones can't except the updates to slowing it down or not enough space left..
opps rambling, let me stop... haha
This is a good question I guess it depends on if note 7 comes with 820 or something better I won't buy a 820 phone there are cheaper options with same processor. Im thinking Nexus. But if note 7 has 4000mah battery it may get my money. My last 2 Samsung phones have had bad gps
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I have the Honor 5x which is from Huawei also., bought it a few months to test, for $200 premium looking, metal casing, 2 sim slots and external sd... but no removable battery and we are supposed to get MM any day now..
but yes I think I want a google phone, but it has to have external sd, maybe I can deal with non removable battery, but who knows. and they better start lowering prices of phones, they would sell more and sell every year selling at about $500.. that's just me thinking out load.. :silly:
because I have my father in law had the S2 very outdated and giving him problems.., so off went my note 3 which was my sons, so he plays with it,
I started with HTC, had almost every single phone till the M7, then moved to Samsung from S2, S3, Note 2, 3, 4.. and on the Notes had 2 of each, for me and my wife.. also with the M7.. I have paid to much on phones and then they don't take care of the updates which the dev do it better than Samsung is very disappointing since manufacturing them is really under $200 coming from the take downs of the devices.. way to much profit, then they expect us, to buy new phones every year...
try to return a new phone u buy in T-Mobile, they offer u half of less after 3 or 4 months then they sell it back as certified phones for double than what they paid getting it back from you... really sucks..
remember a phone is for making phone calls......
I have a pc, laptop,
2 tablets Samsung as well, and they stop with the updates after a year. u get lucky maybe give it a year 2 or 3 months...
super surprised about this MM update on our phones giving that we are almost on our 2 year.. very surprised, guess they are trying to say we will support them longer... remember Note 4 came with KitKat, then Lollipop, and now MM... wow....
darn even apple updates the phones till the older phones can't except the updates to slowing it down or not enough space left..
opps rambling, let me stop... haha
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I am getting to the point where I can no longer justify spending $650-700 on a phone. You're right, there are so many decent options now for half the price.
I'm waiting to see what the Nexus phone phones are like this year. I'm hoping they'll have a nice premium phone this year. The 6P was a nice start. HTC may kick it up another notch. Rumors are that Google wants a phone that will directly compete with the iPhone. Well see if that happens. I've had only Samsung smartphones (Galaxy S, Note 2, note 4, galaxy light). It's time for something different
Jeez the note 7 is going to be almost 1000.
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HTC makes the best Nexus phones imo.
I might get the Moto G4 Plus
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I'm waiting to see what the Nexus phone phones are like this year. I'm hoping they'll have a nice premium phone this year. The 6P was a nice start. HTC may kick it up another notch. Rumors are that Google wants a phone that will directly compete with the iPhone. Well see if that happens. I've had only Samsung smartphones (Galaxy S, Note 2, note 4, galaxy light). It's time for something different
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Agreed... but then again, do I have enough time to monkey around with ROMs again? Realistically - no. If I get an Android device again, I'm just going to have to get the latest Nexus. I'm tired of TW and trying to hack things to make them behave like I want them to...( I'm looking at you NFC icon ).

Nexus 6 or Note 4?

Hey guys,
I just sent my note 7 back and I need a "new" phone. :crying: I am using the G5 atm but I am not a fan of it and will return it.
So now I am on the fence between these two phones. I just need a good, reliable one to tide me over till the s8 comes out.
Which one should I get? I could get either one new for like 300.
I am leaning towards the Nexus 6 since the Note 4 isn't being updated anymore.
The only thing that bothers me is the lack of an Sd slot but I can live without that.
What do you think? Nexus 6 or Note 4?
Thank you for your help
If you're familiar with the Note 7, going with the Note 4 might be best, since you're likely used to using the S-Pen. However, as you note there isn't any more support for it, even though I'm sure custom ROMs can take up some of the slack.
Is the S-Pen more important than the Nexus 6 receiving an update to Android 7.1 in the near future?
There are two versions of the Note 4, the Exynos one and the Snapdragon one. There are no custom roms for the Exynos.
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@istperson: True about Exynos, and I admit forgetting that. However he should answer, at least for himself, the question I asked above. If the S-Pen is more important than updates, he'll want a Note 4. Otherwise he'll want a Nexus 6.
I have to say the N6 is a great phone in my opinion. It's fast and the stock ROM is pure android. You get nougat too if that's important to you. Plenty of ROMS to play around with. I'm running pure nexus 6.0.1. from August and it's damn near perfect. The screen is large and the dual front speakers sound good. Quickcharge is great if you use it alot. Wireless charging is pretty much crap. Lack of SD card sucks. It's heavy and huge. For gaming it's great and battery life is good (not great). It can be had on Swappa for around $175 if you want to save some money. I've long been a gadget geek and part of that is me swapping phones often. I've had many different ones, but I can't seem to find something that justifies giving up the N6. I really want to buy a new phone but the N6 is so good, I can't seem to find something that is worth spending more money on.
N6 hands down....come get ya some Nougat!
Nexus 6 hand down, the repair shop I help manage have been getting the n6 for less than 200. I got our sales guy to get one, and now he and I have convinced over 10 people to buy them this month nexus 6s to people in the last month. We are getting 4 more in to sell as well lol People see my phone and they love it!
Thanks for all your replies, guys! I seriously appreciate all the input. I am going to get the Nexus 6 used first, and my colleague will let me borrow his old Note 4. I will update back later on which device I decided for permanently
So I just got the Nexus 6 and the Note 4. I was immediately more impressed by the N6. It's so huge and looks so amazing. I also just downloaded Nougat. I feel like the Nexus charges faster than the Note. I am gonna pop a sim card in and use both phones for the next week.
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I have to say the N6 is a great phone in my opinion. It's fast and the stock ROM is pure android. You get nougat too if that's important to you. Plenty of ROMS to play around with. I'm running pure nexus 6.0.1. from August and it's damn near perfect. The screen is large and the dual front speakers sound good. Quickcharge is great if you use it alot. Wireless charging is pretty much crap. Lack of SD card sucks. It's heavy and huge. For gaming it's great and battery life is good (not great). It can be had on Swappa for around $175 if you want to save some money. I've long been a gadget geek and part of that is me swapping phones often. I've had many different ones, but I can't seem to find something that justifies giving up the N6. I really want to buy a new phone but the N6 is so good, I can't seem to find something that is worth spending more money on.
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I use a 3 coil wireless charger and have had no issues. Yes it charges slower, it also keeps the USB port from getting banged up that much faster.
So I am ending my project prematurely. The Note 4 is hella laggy and just pure **** software wise. I bet it would run flawlessly if Samsung supported it but I don't have the nerve to deal with this overheating, laggy mess.
The Nexus 6 is really nice, the only thing that bothers me is the awful front camera, the kinda average battery life and the below average rear camera.
I really like Nougat and I think the Nexus 6 runs flawlessly. I wish Google would extend the OS updates. It's marvelous. I love the huge screen. I regret not getting this phone earlier lol. It feels so good having the latest Android.
I had both, Nexus 6 HANDS DOWN!
I just switched from the Note 4 (snapdragon) to Nexus 6.
First off, 2 years ago i was deciding between these two devices and I chose the note 4 because I didn't want to give up the s pen or and the LED notification light. However as android evolved from kitkat to marshmallow, I ran into major problems with rooting. Note 4 ran best on kitkat. Once I went lolipop I had to disable SecurityLogAgent via systemapp remover in order to salvage my root otherwise knox would bootloop. I also found that once I went MM, I ran into some pretty big problems such as mmc read fail errors, boot loops, screen not waking up, the list goes on. I bought a few new batteries as well to rule out that possibility. Now some of these could have been hardware related as I did wipe out on my bike quite a few times with the phone in my pocket (otterbox commuter case), but from what I've been reading, I wasn't the only note 4 user with these issues. I honestly believe the knox bootloader and knox software deliberately screws up your device if you root. It got to the point where I smashed my note 4. My note 4 wouldn't even wake up and activate my alarm clock, to wake me up! unreliable! No matter what I tried, even running it on bone stock, the same problems kept happening. I did not bother downgrading back to loli, or kitkat because I wanted to keep the latest security updates.
Performance & First Impressions
I got the Nexus 6 as a temporary phone since I was considering going Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra. Yet once I held the Nexus 6, and analyzed how it is bone stock, I instantly fell in love with the device. I like the slight bulk at the back of the phone which adds a good feel in my hand. I don't like thin phones. They are very slippery. A plus to Motorola for this ergonomic design. Good weight and a great feel.
Not only are the direct OTA updates from google so CLEAN, but you get the latest of the latest! Android 7 Nougat is bloody amazing!!! holy %#$#$^%! You can't get any cleaner stock rom than the google OTA releases. Literally half a page of apps installed in your app drawer.
The true beauty of this device is how easy it is to root/modify/customize. Once you unlock the bootloader, you're good to go. No knox or any 3rd party app screwing with your stuff.
Both are snapdragon 805 but the Nexus is clocked way higher. The Nexus also has a better screen. Larger, higher PPI and I think it's brighter too. Front facing stereo speakers are quite nice. The little speaker on the back of the note 4 is no comparison. Games run better on the Nexus 6 due to a higher clocked CPU.
With root, you can activate the hidden LED notification light behind the top speaker. You cant get it to blink though, but I'm okay with a solid light.
So what does the Note 4 have over the Nexus 6?
Note 4 battery life is definitely better. Note 4 camera is also better. Nexus 6 has zero image stabilization. The Note 4 also has external storage (micro SD slot) where the Nexus 6 relies on 32gb (or 64gb model) internal storage only plus whatever space you have on your google drive. Note 4 has removable back, easier to replace the battery although it isn't too hard to do on the Nexus 6.
Repairing
I've taken my Note 4 apart at least 3 times and boy what an annoying task it is. You see, samsung designs their phones in ways where if the user attempts to open them, you risk severely damaging your samsung phone. The older samsung models didn't have this problem. For the note 4, you risk tearing a a few ribbons and your antenna if you don't pry the screen from the bezel properly and very carefully. You have to know where these ribbons are prior to opening the Note 4. Note 4 screen replacement is also very annoying and you need new adhesive to re-seat the screen properly after disassembly. So basically, You really don't want to take your Note 4 apart unless you really have to.
The Nexus 6 however, is super easy. The back is just a sticker held by adhesive. Once that comes off it's just like the older phone designs. After few screws you have easy access to the battery, and very easy screen replacement. The only ribbon you have to worry about when prying off the back sticker is the one connected to the battery. You have to be in pretty deep to hit it though in my opinion.
Conclusion
When I was choosing between these two devices two years ago, I should have gone with the Nexus 6 instead, period. I plan to use a custom kernel with CPU governor in attempts to de-clock the CPU for certain profiles in order to gain more battery life. Nexus 6 battery life is quite bad within heavy usage. Other than that, the Nexus 6 is the best power-user phablet you could possibly own as of this day.
@d4ndr0id: A few screws? Try 22 of them.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@d4ndr01d: A few screws? Try 22 of them.
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I laughed when I read that, especially that 4 screws got stripped when I was taking them out. Luckily a t4 bit was able to get them out easily. I haven't really had any problems with Samsung screws getting stripped when I repair them at work.
I have both phones, both with root access/unlocked bootloaders. I switch between the two frequently mainly because the Note 4 has better cameras and wifi calling (Verizon) and the Nexus has no wifi calling (for Verizon). I live in an area with very low signal and drop calls often.
But with that said, I use the N6 most mainly because it "feels" faster to me. The Note 4 is a fantastic phone though and I would be perfectly fine using it, especially now that it has an unlocked bootloader.

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