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GPS Continuously Loses Lock

I had 2 VZW Moto Xs and they rocked. About 10 days ago I switched to TMO Moto Xs and the GPS loses lock on both of them. Much like the first set, they get lock very quickly, but both the TMO units acted strangely during nav and when I installed GPS Status I see that the GPS gets lock, the coordinates are displayed, then about 10 sec later it searches for lock again, the coordinates aren't returned, and then it relocks.
This causes a real usability issue when it comes to navigation. If it was one of these I'd think I had a dud, but the VZW units worked fine and the TMO units both have this bug.
Has anyone seen similar issues?
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I use gps daily and i've only come across an issue with it 2x when i went to New York City. basically, it was putting my location all over the map, as if it couldnt find me. Im guessing the high rise buildings had something to do with it.
as far as gps losing lock, I have notice that as well. I never toggle it off and yet I have to turn it maybe once/twice a month

The lock problem I have is pretty continuous, and restarting doesn't seem to help. Wondering I'd there was a bad run somehow.
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I also encountered this issue.
I reset the phone and it went back normal; however, it occasionally still acts weird. I'm on tmobile as well.
Hope someone can figure this out
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For those of you seeing this issue, when it pops up, go into settings > location and see if you see LocationServices listed twice... One with a size of 120k, and the other 136k.

Solutions Etcetera said:
For those of you seeing this issue, when it pops up, go into settings > location and see if you see LocationServices listed twice... One with a size of 120k, and the other 136k.
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As a matter of fact I do see this. Any idea what might be going on?
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Not yet... but it seems out of place.
My history with GPS "not quite working" was about it being extremely hit and miss about detecting me driving. When this would happen, I'd notice problems with Maps as well.
After a factory reset, it all worked fine. But as soon as I reinstalled Yelp, the issue returned. I'm not certain that yelp is the culprit as in hindsight, I really didn't confirm proper operation after the reset for a long enough period of time given the intermittent nature of the problem.
Next step is to try and determine if two of these same processes is normal, and if not, which one doesn't belong, and where it's coming from. There is a thread in the Moto forums I started. One person there who sees only one occurrence of the process stated his is 120k in size. One of my posts also has a list of all my third party apps that use location services. It would be helpful to know which apps are in common with folks having this issue. The thread is at:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/8a2bf78f04?page=1

monorailmedic said:
I had 2 VZW Moto Xs and they rocked. About 10 days ago I switched to TMO Moto Xs and the GPS loses lock on both of them. Much like the first set, they get lock very quickly, but both the TMO units acted strangely during nav and when I installed GPS Status I see that the GPS gets lock, the coordinates are displayed, then about 10 sec later it searches for lock again, the coordinates aren't returned, and then it relocks.
This causes a real usability issue when it comes to navigation. If it was one of these I'd think I had a dud, but the VZW units worked fine and the TMO units both have this bug.
Has anyone seen similar issues?
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So you are saying this can be software issue? I have a T-Mobile Moto X and I use the phone mostly for Navigation and this is driving me crazy. I am thinking that my phone is defective and been on the phone for 30+ min trying to get support.

I have the same issue
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Solutions Etcetera said:
Not yet... but it seems out of place.
My history with GPS "not quite working" was about it being extremely hit and miss about detecting me driving. When this would happen, I'd notice problems with Maps as well.
After a factory reset, it all worked fine. But as soon as I reinstalled Yelp, the issue returned. I'm not certain that yelp is the culprit as in hindsight, I really didn't confirm proper operation after the reset for a long enough period of time given the intermittent nature of the problem.
Next step is to try and determine if two of these same processes is normal, and if not, which one doesn't belong, and where it's coming from. There is a thread in the Moto forums I started. One person there who sees only one occurrence of the process stated his is 120k in size. One of my posts also has a list of all my third party apps that use location services. It would be helpful to know which apps are in common with folks having this issue. The thread is at:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/8a2bf78f04?page=1
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I went ahead and posted my situation to https://forums.motorola.com/posts/8a2bf78f04?commentId=755612#755612. There are no apps in common with all three devices (yours, mine, my wife's). The quest continues.

I must add that I also had this problem on my previous phones, Note 2 and Galaxy Mega 6.3. The problem started around the past summer.
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I confirm that I force stop the 120 k location service file, and the problem is gone. Need to do that again after a reset though.
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x2h said:
I confirm that I force stop the 120 k location service file, and the problem is gone. Need to do that again after a reset though.
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When you say 'reset', do you mean reset or just rebooting your phone?
BTW, I have no LocationServices on my Nexus 4, so these seem to be Moto's binaries, which makes sense.
Would appreciate you keeping us posted if this continues to address the issue and causes no additional problems.

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When you say 'reset', do you mean reset or just rebooting your phone?
BTW, I have no LocationServices on my Nexus 4, so these seem to be Moto's binaries, which makes sense.
Would appreciate you keeping us posted if this continues to address the issue and causes no additional problems.
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I mean rebooting the phone. I use Waze everyday for commuting. I will report back if this fix doesn't work.
In terms of side effects, I have not seen any yet.
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I see both, and if I stop one, I get no better GPS lock.
I've been getting g terrible GPS lock recently and also posted a thread.
Driving me nuts.
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monorailmedic said:
I went ahead and posted my situation to ... There are no apps in common with all three devices (yours, mine, my wife's). The quest continues.
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I have the same problem. XT1053 on T-Mobile constantly loses GPS signal while driving. Happens in wide open areas with no buildings. I have tried wiping the device and not installing any additional apps and have the same results. I can be sitting at a traffic light have GPS signal, lose it for a few seconds then get it back without having moved.

Here is a poorly shot video of this happening. I will try and get something more clear tomorrow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5MeEVS1DW0
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I returned my phone for this issue yesterday. I had navigation issues along with the drive assist problem. While driving maps world just stop. If I was at a turn and turned left the map would stay stuck at the turn long after I turned. It eventually would catch up. Loosing and gaining lock would perfectly explain this.
Update: I got a replacement phone. The new phone has the same problems. May be a bit worse.
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Been chasing this one for a while and still think this isn't hardware related (lots of Nexus 5 users seeing this on KK as well).
My latest theory, which I have yet to disprove, is that the GPS data downloaded from some cell towers (this is the A in AGPS) is either wrong, or is somehow getting corrupted.
When this happens to me, turning on airplane mode immediately restores a quick and persistent lock. And using GPS Status to reset/erase the AGPS data returns normal operation... for a while.
It's like the initial fix info is fighting with the actual GPS readings. As soon as you turn off the cell towers, or clear the data they are providing, all is well.
I am in T-Mobile fringe area and see it fairly often. So far it has always cleared up by trying the above.

This is am interesting theory. I will check it out a bit. Most interesting is the idea that the agps data structure may be slightly different for kitkat v ICS, and that it may also be different for TMO. The main idea supporting this (though purely anecdotal) is that it does happen on both my tmo Xs but neither of my VZW Xs.
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[Q] Not getting notifications until...

Any one else have the problem of not getting notifications until you unlock the phone? I notice it also with facebook messenger, facebook, and not getting email either. Is this just me or someone else having this problem?

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Any one else have the problem of not getting notifications until you unlock the phone? I notice it also with facebook messenger, facebook, and not getting email either. Is this just me or someone else having this problem?
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Are you completely stock or rooted on a custom ROM?
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ReggieSmith said:
Are you completely stock or rooted on a custom ROM?
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I am completely stock. I do not want to root the device.

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I am completely stock. I do not want to root the device.
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Mine does/did the same thing. Never figured out what it was. Now it is up for sell and I am using my newer HTC One. I think it might be the power saver but never got around to testing it. In PS mode it is supposed to turn data off when the phone is sleeping.

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Mine does/did the same thing. Never figured out what it was. Now it is up for sell and I am using my newer HTC One. I think it might be the power saver but never got around to testing it. In PS mode it is supposed to turn data off when the phone is sleeping.
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messing around with the settings and found it has something to do with the lock screen security. When its set to "none" the notifications works fine. I have tried a couple of the apps for screen locks and are not satisfied with them as far as thier looks. I am really hoping when ATT finally released the kit kat update it will fix this problem. I just sold my LG G2 to get this phone. Kinda disappointed now that ATT released its update today.
I used to have the HTC one but didnt like not having the sd card. I found I like the bigger screens.

Did you finally figure out the solution? I am completely stock, not rooted and have the same issue since last 6 months. I never had any lock screen, so thats not the issue, I always have my phone unlocked.
The problem is not app specific. The delay in notification happens all across the board. When my phone is sleeping, i dont get any notification. As soon as I wake it up, all notification come at the same time, including Yahoo mail, Gmail, hangout messages, whatsapp, Google voice, twitter and others.
It seems like the wifi/data is disabled when phone is sleeping. I double checked in the Advanced Wifi option that wifi is always on. Some people said that the push notification heartbeat might be the issue but why only few of us are seeing this issue and not everyone?
Anyone have any solution?

I have always had my Note 3 on PIN, and I always wake up to at least 2 or 3 emails (sometimes many more), and at least 2 or 3 days I wake up to a new text (I don't text people normally, but Amazon texts me to let me know an order has shipped, etc.)
So it's not the email or text app and it's not the lock screen "as a rule on all devices". It could be a few different things, like allowing wifi to be turned off when the screen is off (that saves so little battery it doesn't make any practical difference - turn it off and keep wifi on all the time). I don't normally run with 3G/4G on, but that shouldn't turn off during sleep, so it wouldn't cause the problem.

4.4.3 zombie apps draining battery

Just got my Dev edition. Upgraded to 4.4.2 and after a while to 4.4.3
All seemed fine until i noticed that Google play books used 40% of the battery... Weird since i opened it, scrolled the list and closed... It wasn't even in the recent app list...
I killed it and added to the disable list (i use fbreader anyway)... Now today (second day with phone) the same happened with YouTube...
It used 30% of the battery. I watched a10s clip... App info said 10s foreground... 30 min background... And again, it wasn't even on the recent app list to be closed. Just went to apps and force closed.
Now I'm worried that this is a thing with everything Google (which honestly i can disable all but gmail and maps) or the OS...
Anyone getting the same? I'm not sure what to search for to find similar threads...
I'm guessing this is either common or i have a ducked device since i got it twice for the 2 days i have it...
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Typos courtesy of getting used to new keyboard
Also can't find an edit button...
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Ugh that's really weird. If you're rooted it will be a lot easier to fix but for now reboot the phone and use it like that for another day. Sometimes the OS and apps need time to settle. For example I did a fresh flash two days ago and my Google services had a 1 hour and 13 minute wakelock yesterday where as today it's behaving very well. But YouTube doing that is weird. Never auto update your apps as 85% of updates are crap across the board. Try going to apps under settings and click uninstall updates for YouTube. This should revert YouTube to the version that came with 4.4.3, unless that's already the latest. But yeah for now try and "tickle" YouTube by logging out, wiping cache and data for it under settings/apps and log back in, see if it starts behaving. I'll monitor this thread to try and help.
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Thanks. I did all that yesterday and rebooted. So far everything seems fine. So i think you're spot on. Tho it is a bad sign to have those bugs
The phone did lock up twice on me after that.
Once playing webm on chrome. But i just disabled it a while later. Firefox beta ftw! ( ff is the Only reason i have up my nexus one)
Another time when i inserted the Sim with the phone on and right away unlocked the slider... It froze mid slider animation. Think i hit some race condition there. Hopefully i won't be inserting sim cards all the time...
Overall i think i will be able to live with that phone. Now only if i could use nfc unlock with my assine employer email policy...
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It may have happened again. It's reporting a widget (simple calendar) as using 15min of cpu with 4min of foreground time. I had opened its setting screen 15 min ago. After i liked it from the recent task list it stopped counting new cpu time. But it's still showing as the top battery user for now.
Since that setting screen has ads, i will just write this off as a sleazy ad library for now.
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Nexus 6 (ATT) Powering Off By Itself

Any of you experiencing this? I have my phone for 10 days and for 7 straight days now, my phone is powering off by itself even if still have at least 50% charge. I haven't rooted it yet, all stock.

Yeah it's a known issue at the moment and I don't think there's currently any fix for our problem. Or I at least I haven't checked the thread that's open for this issue in a couple days. From what I read it seems to be hit or miss on the first wave of Nexus 6's from ATT and Motorola. I'm not sure about the T-mobile, Verizon, and Sprint versions of the phone.

Got a notification for Software update, I think it's 5.0.1, but I didn't update. That's when my phone powers off by itself. When I a do a manual systems update, it says my phone is up to date under version 5.0. Could the update might've fixed this?

I just read that if you have the Amazon apps installed on your phone that's part of the problem. Google and Motorola confirmed they're working to address the issues with the reboots and shutdowns people have experienced. 5.0.1 is suppose to fix some of the bugs but not all. Amazon apps or Appstore is related to most of the reboots due to an incompatibility with the OS.

Yeah the amazon app is quite slow on the n6

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Yeah the amazon app is quite slow on the n6
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My phone did the same thing. I returned it to AT&T for a full refund and will wait until I can get my hands on something not from AT&T.

AT&T Random Shutdown
I had a Pre-Order and mine was doing it almost twice a day. I returned it and exchanged at the store for a newer one. The new ones have a green dot on the box next to the IMEI barcode. Been on the new one for a week and a half and it has done it 3 times now (it is updated to 5.01). However now when I power it back on my home screens are wiped, essentially set to default but everything is still installed and setup EXCEPT google now. I do have amazon apps installed but just removed after reading previous post, will see what happens.
I went to store also and they will exchange again but IDK at this point if it will help?

Mine has turned off by itself twice now, I am on 5.0.1. Having come from the LG G3 which would do this whenever I took a photo, unless I switched to Airplane Mode, I thought I had seen the back of this problem.
Also the OK Google recognition screen cuts in when watching You Tube videos all the time.

I'll remove the amazon app. And see what happens.

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I'll remove the amazon app. And see what happens.
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I uninstalled both Amazon app and the Kindle app. Lets see what happens.

Just an update: 2 days after uninstalling amazon and kindle app, my N6 hasn't powered off by itself. I think it does affect my phone.

I removed Kindle App and Amazon app on 12/19/14 no reboots since.

That's good news, is it possible the Amazon app was causing the issue? I got my N6 from t-mobile and experienced my random reboot about an hour after the initial setup and 5.0.1 update. Wiped Cache Partition as suggested on another thread. But if the Amazon all is the issue here I will uninstall it too...come to think of it I setup my Amazon app last along with my Ebay and NewEgg and shortly after my phone restarted....hmmm thanks for the info guys!

I uninstalled all Amazon apps (appstore, instant video and the Amazon app itself) and still having that shutdown issue. Totally annoying. As far as I could see it almost only happened while my earphones are plugged in. Just happened 1 time without plugged in earphone. 2 weeks N6, already about 10+ random shutdowns. Any known solution for that? It's totally annoying... :/
Running latest Euphoria OS, but also happened before rooting.

Going to uninstall Amazon App
I have been having random reboots lately almost 3-4 times a week. It is getting super annoying and i did notice that i do have the amazon app installed. I have uninstalled it and will see if it helps with the random reboots/power off. Thanks for the updates information on this issue.

I haven't encountered this prob for over 2 weeks already. I guess it's amazon.

I just had my Play Store nexus 6 reboot on me. Its on verizon, never have installed amazon. Very light amount of apps installed, almost nothing running. Stock, unrooted. 5.0.1
Hrm

rebooting is real
My new Nexus keeps rebooting about twice a day. Missed several calls due to this.
. 5.0.1, noncarrier. 5 apps installed. Do I have get an iPhone - shudder.

What apps do you have installed? Is the 5.01 factory installed or updated through your carrier?

Has anyone noticed in their Note 8 or S8+/S8 what has happened to Smart Lock?

Recently, in my Note 8, no matter what I do, I’m having issues with Smart Lock. Specifically when I’m at home with Trusted Places. It works with the other Smart Lock areas, just not the Trusted Places. I thought if i shutoff WiFi, I fixed it. But, no. It still doesn’t work. About 2 weeks ago, it was working flawlessly. Obviously if the phone wasn’t used for 4 hours, I would have to use a method to unlock my phone, but after that when I was at home it would open without entering any method to unlock the phone. Anyone have this issue? If so, any solutions? I’ve tried so many and I’m getting tired and frustrated. I really don’t want a feature that’s been working on many Android phone including this one for years, make me resent this phone. Not sure if resent is the right word, but I’m sure everyone knows what I’m talking about. What is with Samsung, from how they handled the Note 7 fiasco (I got a lot more help through Verizon), not bringing back the original S Note app, constantly giving us great features then taking them away, etc. I can keep going on and on. If there was another Android phone that had a S Pen comparable to theirs, I really think they would be in trouble with how they are treating us consumers. I’m just really frustrated. Hopefully someone can help with this issue, that shouldn’t be. But based on my Google search, it looks like I’m not the only one. Thanks in advance for your help.

sll1313 said:
Recently, in my Note 8, no matter what I do, I’m having issues with Smart Lock. Specifically when I’m at home with Trusted Places. It works with the other Smart Lock areas, just not the Trusted Places. I thought if i shutoff WiFi, I fixed it. But, no. It still doesn’t work. About 2 weeks ago, it was working flawlessly. Obviously if the phone wasn’t used for 4 hours, I would have to use a method to unlock my phone, but after that when I was at home it would open without entering any method to unlock the phone. Anyone have this issue? If so, any solutions? I’ve tried so many and I’m getting tired and frustrated. I really don’t want a feature that’s been working on many Android phone including this one for years, make me resent this phone. Not sure if resent is the right word, but I’m sure everyone knows what I’m talking about. What is with Samsung, from how they handled the Note 7 fiasco (I got a lot more help through Verizon), not bringing back the original S Note app, constantly giving us great features then taking them away, etc. I can keep going on and on. If there was another Android phone that had a S Pen comparable to theirs, I really think they would be in trouble with how they are treating us consumers. I’m just really frustrated. Hopefully someone can help with this issue, that shouldn’t be. But based on my Google search, it looks like I’m not the only one. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Do you have an Exchange account of some kind on the device? My corporate email disables Trusted Places in my device, but sometimes it kicks in and works for a brief period of time.

Works fine for me
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Actually had the same issue, had to add my current location under smartlock Trusted places (even though it shows as identical address to home)

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Do you have an Exchange account of some kind on the device? My corporate email disables Trusted Places in my device, but sometimes it kicks in and works for a brief period of time.
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Unfortunately, that’s not it. It’s been working flawlessly since I got the phone on release date. It’s just been recently, approximately 2 weeks, that it stopped working. Even then, I’ll get it to work for a dat and then it will stop again.

SteelPicori said:
Actually had the same issue, had to add my current location under smartlock Trusted places (even though it shows as identical address to home)
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I’ve tried this, too. I’ve also tried different locations on my street and it was working, but then stopped again. Open to other suggestions.

sll1313 said:
Unfortunately, that’s not it. It’s been working flawlessly since I got the phone on release date. It’s just been recently, approximately 2 weeks, that it stopped working. Even then, I’ll get it to work for a dat and then it will stop again.
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Oh okay. Only other thing I can think of is software update that was released about that time. Can you try a factory reset after backing up your data?

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Oh okay. Only other thing I can think of is software update that was released about that time. Can you try a factory reset after backing up your data?
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Thanks for the quick response. I appreciate the thought, but I was trying to figure out another way. I finally got the original S Note app with Action Memo, Photo Note, Idea Sketch, Sketchbook, Easy Chart, etc. on the phone and I really don’t want to take any chances that I lose that app. It’s my favorite app for the Note. Still shocked that Samsung changed it to Samsung Notes. However, you gave me an idea. I normally wipe cache partition when I do updates and I forgot after the last security update. So I just did it and Trusted Places is working so far. Hopefully it continues. Thanks for the suggestion! If this holds up, I will let you know and then I’ll just have to remember to do that after each OTA.

My wife and I use smart lock location at home, hers stopped working 2 days ago and mine stopped yesterday. Must have been an update to an app that is killing it.
Just spoke with a Samsung rep and have a possible solution
Settings >> Apps >> more options ( 3 vertical dots) >> tap on System apps
scroll to "google play services" and clear it's cache, reboot the phone and then check for the issue.
This worked for me.
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EVObastard said:
My wife and I use smart lock location at home, hers stopped working 2 days ago and mine stopped yesterday. Must have been an update to an app that is killing it.
Just spoke with a Samsung rep and have a possible solution
Settings >> Apps >> more options ( 3 vertical dots) >> tap on System apps
scroll to "google play services" and clear it's cache, reboot the phone and then check for the issue.
This worked for me.
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I just tried this idea for my phone and I thought it worked, but unfortunately I was wrong. I wanted to double check to be certain because one of my work arounds to fix this issue was just rebooting the phone and making sure my location was working and then it would work. So of course since your idea involved rebooting I knew that would help my phone. I was just hoping the added step of clearing the cache would make it work permanently. Are both of your phones still working? I may just forget it and set it up for either the Google Home or mini as a trusted device because this is getting very frustrating. If you could think of anything else, please let me know. Thanks again.

I had the same problem at home and I narrowed down to the GPS not locking down properly in different areas of the house. Open Google Maps and you can see.
So, the next time it stops working, simply add the trusted zone of your area again even though the coordinates are the same.
I have the same coordinates registered 4 times in my device and haven't had an issue since.
It's a stupid solution but works.

i have an N950F running 8.0.0 and for me it stopped working on Nougat. After i clean istalled Oreo, smart lock worked for about 3 days. Now it doesn't again . I already cleaned cache of google play services and since then it works when it want's sometimes it workes sometimes not. is there no way to force it ? i mean once we have unlocked the device we can tap the lock on lockscreen to lock the device again . Is there nothing similar like this to unlock the device if the Automatad way isn't working propertly?
Adding more locations around my home area also didn't helped.
it is also very frustrating that we only can add bluetooth devices to trusted devices instead of i.E. my home router so it would know that i am at home not only through GPS location.

sll1313 said:
Unfortunately, that’s not it. It’s been working flawlessly since I got the phone on release date. It’s just been recently, approximately 2 weeks, that it stopped working. Even then, I’ll get it to work for a dat and then it will stop again.
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I have the exact same problem! I'm not sure when it started happening, but it has annoyed me more and more over the last couple of weeks. I'll try to add my home again as a second input.
Note8 950F w/ Jan security update (nordic).
edit: it seems to work now when I've added my home two times.

I’ve actually tried all those ideas. I have a paragraph of locations including addresses as well as coordinates. I find that interesting that you mentioned about having four of the same coordinates because I noticed something quite interesting. Sometimes when they’re the same coordinates it will say it’s a duplicate and those I’ve dismissed. However, others that come up don’t come up with that message and I end up having multiple items with the same coordinates. Later on I erase them because I figure they’re just duplicates. I won’t going forward to see if that works. I’m assuming the ones the system catches as duplicates are the ones to not have included. I’m thinking about trying my home or one of my minis to use as a trusted device. I just really would like to get Trusted Places to work, but if not I think that’s the only other option since we can’t use a router as an option and I don’t have any of my Bluetooth speakers on all the time (I’m assuming those won’t work because of that). Please keep us informed in anyone cane up with any other ideas (as I’m sure you all will) and I will do the same.

LegendSmoker said:
i have an N950F running 8.0.0 and for me it stopped working on Nougat. After i clean istalled Oreo, smart lock worked for about 3 days. Now it doesn't again . I already cleaned cache of google play services and since then it works when it want's sometimes it workes sometimes not. is there no way to force it ? i mean once we have unlocked the device we can tap the lock on lockscreen to lock the device again . Is there nothing similar like this to unlock the device if the Automatad way isn't working propertly?
Adding more locations around my home area also didn't helped.
it is also very frustrating that we only can add bluetooth devices to trusted devices instead of i.E. my home router so it would know that i am at home not only through GPS location.
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I haven’t installed Oreo yet. I was waiting to hear what everyone thinks of it. How do you like it? That was one of my ideas that I was hoping would work. The only reason I haven’t installed Oreo besides waiting to hear what people thought. I want to make sure the Note 8 runs as well on it. I know in the past sometimes you upgrade and it makes the phone run worse. Also, I’ve got Nova Prime running , so it’s seems like I have most of the features that come with Oreo already on my phone. Honestly the last and most important reason I haven’t upgraded is the original S Note app. I had it running with Action Memo for quite sometime, but finally after awhile I managed to get it fully installed with Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, etc. It’s working in its full form. There’s one very minor thing that I never realized wasn’t around since the Note 4 (because I didn’t own the Note 5 since it didn’t have the SD slot). And that’s not being able to bring in a photo from your gallery to Photo Note. Other than that minor item, it works flawlessly. So I really don’t want to lose it. I know eventually I will take my chances, but I was really hoping someone else already updated their phone and it’s still working. By any chance, did you have it fully installed when you updated to Oreo? BTW, the only other option which I put in my other post which another person posted as well is to use the Google Home/mini/max as a trusted device as a workaround.

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I haven’t installed Oreo yet. I was waiting to hear what everyone thinks of it. How do you like it? That was one of my ideas that I was hoping would work. The only reason I haven’t installed Oreo besides waiting to hear what people thought. I want to make sure the Note 8 runs as well on it. I know in the past sometimes you upgrade and it makes the phone run worse. Also, I’ve got Nova Prime running , so it’s seems like I have most of the features that come with Oreo already on my phone. Honestly the last and most important reason I haven’t upgraded is the original S Note app. I had it running with Action Memo for quite sometime, but finally after awhile I managed to get it fully installed with Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, etc. It’s working in its full form. There’s one very minor thing that I never realized wasn’t around since the Note 4 (because I didn’t own the Note 5 since it didn’t have the SD slot). And that’s not being able to bring in a photo from your gallery to Photo Note. Other than that minor item, it works flawlessly. So I really don’t want to lose it. I know eventually I will take my chances, but I was really hoping someone else already updated their phone and it’s still working. By any chance, did you have it fully installed when you updated to Oreo? BTW, the only other option which I put in my other post which another person posted as well is to use the Google Home/mini/max as a trusted device as a workaround.
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Ou i like Oreo. I did a clean install and can say that I have Better SOT( on nougat 4 h on oreo 5h ). Else is same as nougat for me... Some changes in Settings UI and some changes in ui here and there nothing interesting. I can't help you with Snote because I didn't use it in past with my older Note 3 or 4 or 5 but now I just learned to use Samsung notes because i am just writing some songtexts with it. I can understand also that users don't want to switch because snote had more features but they are making it harder and harder to get snote back with fully functionality so it is only matter of time until it is fully uncompatible. But I Can find it on play store so it probably still works. If you hold the s pen button and touch the screen with the pen twice you will get an action memo like note with Samsung notes but you probably know that and this is the only thing I need ^^ what do you mean with fully installed after updated to oreo? I did a factory reset before and after I flashed oreo with Odin. And then I restored all my files with smart switch from PC. If you want to keep your data you can wait for OTA update or try dirty flashing with Odin but if you get any fc's after you updated them you will still need to factory reset to get rid of these errors. Thanks for this suggestion but unfortunately I don't own any smart home or Google home devices except of chromecast and this is not enough ^^
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I have the same issue lately (maybe 2 weeks at most so mid-March) that I've noticed Smart Lock no longer working most of the time when I'm at home or any other "trusted places". Seriously annoying because as mentioned above (by LegendSmoker) that they should allow routers to be added as trusted devices then it would solve this issue. I'm using the Canadian Note 8 (N950W unlocked) and it was fine from launch up until 1-2 weeks ago roughly and now it prompts the pattern or biometrics most of the time when I am at home. Nothing has helped so far in resolving this so not sure what caused it but hopefully it will start working again soon.

This is very annoying. I've done factory reset but the problem comes back after a few hours of use.

I've discovered something interesting, mine usually works late at night, like after 10p, coincidentally right after my AOD turns off. I've tried manually turning off AOD but that doesn't seem to help. I just realized that I have the do not disturb coming on at 10p also but my wife does not so I don't think it's that. It seems really odd though, that it works late at night, every night.
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Ou i like Oreo. I did a clean install and can say that I have Better SOT( on nougat 4 h on oreo 5h ). Else is same as nougat for me... Some changes in Settings UI and some changes in ui here and there nothing interesting. I can't help you with Snote because I didn't use it in past with my older Note 3 or 4 or 5 but now I just learned to use Samsung notes because i am just writing some songtexts with it. I can understand also that users don't want to switch because snote had more features but they are making it harder and harder to get snote back with fully functionality so it is only matter of time until it is fully uncompatible. But I Can find it on play store so it probably still works. If you hold the s pen button and touch the screen with the pen twice you will get an action memo like note with Samsung notes but you probably know that and this is the only thing I need ^^ what do you mean with fully installed after updated to oreo? I did a factory reset before and after I flashed oreo with Odin. And then I restored all my files with smart switch from PC. If you want to keep your data you can wait for OTA update or try dirty flashing with Odin but if you get any fc's after you updated them you will still need to factory reset to get rid of these errors. Thanks for this suggestion but unfortunately I don't own any smart home or Google home devices except of chromecast and this is not enough ^^
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Thanks for the quick response. I will probably wait for the OTA for Oreo since I’ve waited this long and I’ve heard rumors it’s coming very soon. Yes, I am aware that you are able to open Samsung Notes the same way you were able to open Action Memo.
The S Note app that’s on the Play Store is not the original version and is missing numerous features. While there still a few features that are better than the Samsung Notes app, if that was my choice I would’ve probably followed your lead and stuck with Samsung Notes. Luckily, I was able to get the S Note app with Action Memo installed on my phone pretty quickly and eventually found a way to get the entire S Note app that besides having Action Memo, it also has Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, and the rest. So that’s what I meant I took me some time to find a way to get the whole app side loaded and fully installed on my phone. I actually found the answer on this site. So I was trying to explain that I am somewhat worried that when I update to Oreo, it won’t work or I’ll have to do it all over again. I really hope not.
I also really hope that Samsung changes it’s mind with Samsung Notes in that either they improve the app with all, if not more, of the S Note features or just bring back S Notes. I didn’t use the S Pen really at all because I was really unaware of all its capabilities, including S Note until I upgrade from the Note 2 to the Note 3. I really think if they expanded the features of the app they would leave a lot of phones in the dust. There’s a member of XDA, tah480, who has some really great ideas on how the could really perfect S Note and make a phenomenal app. I already feel it’s probably the best app ever and with his ideas it would really be unreal.
I hope that it explains what I posted better. Also, while my phone isn’t perfect, I’m wondering if there is a weird delayed issue with location. I’ve added a lot of places in Trusted Places and will always add more every time it doesn’t let me in, but I’ll also open the Map app or ask Google where I am and then sure enough it works, but again only temporarily. It also seems to work temporarily after a reboot.
Oh and to the other post, I actually found the complete opposite about the AOD. I had mine going off at night and I changed it because I though it was having an effect on a clock/weather widget. Now it seem the Smart Lock is actually working better, still unfortunately not like it did. I’m just disappointed because I was really hoping then when I updated to Oreo I was hoping that would fix it, but it sounds like that’s not going to happen.
The only other thing that’s interesting is I notice I have a delayed issue with updating/installing apps on Google Play. They download and then they sit there and either eventually get installed or I have a workaround to get it to work. The only thing I could think about is I disabled the DT ignite (or whatever it was called before). It was my understanding that you should disable it. I’m wondering if I put it back, if these issues would start working again.