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Motorola Milestone - 3G Mobile Hotspot running hot!!!

Hey,
I've been running the 3G Mobile Hotspot app on my Milestone running 2.2. I'm aware that the app isn't meant for the phone, but it's running very hot and i'm worried that it might damage the phone. I'm sure its taking a hit on battery life too but that isn't much of a problem as the heat.
So thanks in advance to anyone who can answer.
Kris

maybe you can underclock during that time.
CPU Tuner is good for that (disable profiles and pick a speed)

zeppelinrox said:
maybe you can underclock during that time.
CPU Tuner is good for that (disable profiles and pick a speed)
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Ah CPU Tuner i see, i was thinking of SetCPU is there a major difference between the two? I'm kinda new to Android stuff hehe.
Thanks,
Kris

linkandzelda said:
Hey,
I've been running the 3G Mobile Hotspot app on my Milestone running 2.2. I'm aware that the app isn't meant for the phone, but it's running very hot and i'm worried that it might damage the phone. I'm sure its taking a hit on battery life too but that isn't much of a problem as the heat.
So thanks in advance to anyone who can answer.
Kris
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I noticed the same heat issue, but i ran my phone (plugged in and overclocked too 900) for 1 week straight in this mode with 4 laptops connected to it (spring break) with no issue.
I guess it may reduce the lifespan of the phone, but who will be running this phone in 2 years?
Sent from my Milstone running CM7

Caz666 said:
I noticed the same heat issue, but i ran my phone (plugged in and overclocked too 900) for 1 week straight in this mode with 4 laptops connected to it (spring break) with no issue.
I guess it may reduce the lifespan of the phone, but who will be running this phone in 2 years?
Sent from my Milstone running CM7
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Ah I see. Thats good to hear. I was wondering something, while it was lugged in was it charging the battery up too? Or was it using it at a fast rate that it didn't charge at all?

linkandzelda said:
Ah I see. Thats good to hear. I was wondering something, while it was lugged in was it charging the battery up too? Or was it using it at a fast rate that it didn't charge at all?
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It was charging and evrything was working.
Sent from my Milstone running CM7

linkandzelda said:
Ah CPU Tuner i see, i was thinking of SetCPU is there a major difference between the two? I'm kinda new to Android stuff hehe.
Thanks,
Kris
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CPU Tuner does more and uses less resources than SetCPU, I'm pretty sure.
Even when I disabled all features of SetCPU, it would remain in memory so I uninstalled it.
I only tried it just to see what the fuss was about, since I was already using CPU Tuner.
I can use a different governor in different profiles which get activitated with different triggers.
I guess that sounds complicated but it's a real easy to understand interface.
With a couple of recent added features, I no longer need Juice Defender
In reality, you can use it to replace SetCPU, Juice Defender and Toggle2g/3g.
And the thing is like a camel.. it barely drinks anything.
Here's some info from a previous post...
I use ondemand, smartass and conservative... sometimes performance (you know... just for benchmarking)
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Smartass is amazing when the screen is off... it will sit at 250mhz nearly the whole time.
Interactive isn't very good for that at all but Conservative is OK.
With the phone unplugged my setup is:
Smartass - battery is above 70% (but not on a phone call) and whenever the screen is off (with reduced overclock).
Conservative - battery below 70% and always when on the phone.

Well that looks great! I will definitely try it out thanks for telling me about it!

You're welcome

zeppelinrox said:
CPU Tuner does more and uses less resources than SetCPU, I'm pretty sure.
Even when I disabled all features of SetCPU, it would remain in memory so I uninstalled it.
I only tried it just to see what the fuss was about, since I was already using CPU Tuner.
I can use a different governor in different profiles which get activitated with different triggers.
I guess that sounds complicated but it's a real easy to understand interface.
With a couple of recent added features, I no longer need Juice Defender
In reality, you can use it to replace SetCPU, Juice Defender and Toggle2g/3g.
And the thing is like a camel.. it barely drinks anything.
Here's some info from a previous post...
I use ondemand, smartass and conservative... sometimes performance (you know... just for benchmarking)
Smartass is amazing when the screen is off... it will sit at 250mhz nearly the whole time.
Interactive isn't very good for that at all but Conservative is OK.
With the phone unplugged my setup is:
Smartass - battery is above 70% (but not on a phone call) and whenever the screen is off (with reduced overclock).
Conservative - battery below 70% and always when on the phone.
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Im using Juce Defender to take care about my CPU speed. U think CPU Tuner is better? Maybe i sould get it if its so awesom...

I place mine in the refridgerator.

It's free... worth a try without risk heh
JD wouldn't do any CPU speed on my rom so I forgot that it even has that feature

Too HOTTTT

Hi guys i overclocked 748mhz smartass,minimax....
And now i go on browswer and go back to the screen and saw this....
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You can see 42C pls help with some program or etc pls help ://
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This is normal. You must lower frequencies to reduce temperature.
Hit the THANKS button if I helped!!
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Yes it happens in overclocking, in multitasking, sometimes when playing games or when gps, wifi etc. are all open. Just set default CPU freq. and try not to open too many apps altogether your temperature should lower. Oh, and if you have 3G enabled, disabling could increase battery life and reduce temperature

fenixcro said:
Hi guys i overclocked 748mhz smartass,minimax....
And now i go on browswer and go back to the screen and saw this....
You can see 42C pls help with some program or etc pls help ://
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42 degrees is not TOO HOT!! That chip can get up to 110-130 degrees before failing so dont worry about it. If your phone gets a little bit warm just lower the CPU clock speed. I would not worry about that temperature!!

Well I think it's frustating. So,I set 613mhz for normal use. I only set 749 when playing games.
Hit the THANKS button if I helped!!
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bahmonkeys said:
42 degrees is not TOO HOT!! That chip can get up to 110-130 degrees before failing so dont worry about it. If your phone gets a little bit warm just lower the CPU clock speed. I would not worry about that temperature!!
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It doesn't harm the cpu but it harms the battery.
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Nikkopt said:
It doesn't harm the cpu but it harms the battery.
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Everything you do harms the battery. Your battery is always dying. There are ways to slow the dying rate but it is inevitable

bahmonkeys said:
Everything you do harms the battery. Your battery is always dying. There are ways to slow the dying rate but it is inevitable
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Of course, any battery starts dying the moment it leaves the assembly line in the factory.
Heat accelerates the aging time ALOT..
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Be Smart..
When my phone battery get too hot(37-42 degree celcius)i usually open my phone's battery cover and put a fan behind my phone..and it help to reduce the temperature especially when i play games..

Nikkopt said:
Of course, any battery starts dying the moment it leaves the assembly line in the factory.
Heat accelerates the aging time ALOT..
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Ya of course i know!!! If your battery gets warm, normally what i do is stop what im doing but this isn't what most people will do. Take off the back cover and give your battery some room to breath. The samsung s2 is not built very well hit heat in mind. Its because of the CPU/GPU they generate a lot of heat. The heat syncs for them goes around the battery and this in turn makes your battery warm. As phones are getting faster i wonder how they are going to deal with the excess heat!? The CPU and GPU are to the left of your camera which probably everyone has felt mass heat from that area. I usually keep my phone under clocked to 800MHz for normal use (sending messages, phone calls, browsing the internet etc). Its really smooth and stable. When i play games i do put the clock speed back up to 1200MHz. I usually get 3-4 and sometimes 5 days battery life

50C
i got my temp up to 52C.. too hot.. i was startled and quikly removed the battery.. haha.. i thought my X8 was gonna die.. but, it still works fine..
i set the CPU to the same freq as u use. but it happend when i used USBtethering, and connected to internet on 3G.. the temp also increases when i use my phone browsing online on 3G.. but i turn 3G off when the temp reaches 40C..

So with OCing and all, what's the safest max temp of our x8/w8?
I never let mine go above 41 degrees c. How far can i go above that safely (not harming anything but the battery)?
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Lol by too hot i thought you meant the red statusbar icons

cascabel said:
So with OCing and all, what's the safest max temp of our x8/w8?
I never let mine go above 41 degrees c. How far can i go above that safely (not harming anything but the battery)?
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am i the only one who read the manuals?!i guess i am...:silly:
"For optimum performance, the product should not be operated in tempratures below -10C(+14F) or above +45C(+113F). Do not expose the battery to tempratures above +60C(+140F)."

[Q] is it normal i can run cpu without problemsat 864MHz?

hi there !
as written in the topic i'm using gingerzaraki rom and i overclocked till 864MHz and it looks like normal, without any problems? i ask this because most of people don't run at that frequency

white_cat said:
hi there !
as written in the topic i'm using gingerzaraki rom and i overclocked till 864MHz and it looks like normal, without any problems? i ask this because most of people don't run at that frequency
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What a lucky guy!!!!
Absolutely it can decrease your x8's life due damages to chip set & overhead.(+high battery drain)
anyways overclocking more than 729 MHz is not recommended (by me)
& over clock to 864 just in benchmarking
Sent From My BEAST , I mean X8

white_cat said:
hi there !
as written in the topic i'm using gingerzaraki rom and i overclocked till 864MHz and it looks like normal, without any problems? i ask this because most of people don't run at that frequency
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That's too much overclocking
But your CPU can handle that
Some device get rebooted on 787+:sly:
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i guess i will scale at a lower frequency, i wouldnt like a burned phone but it seemed cool at 864

white_cat said:
i guess i will scale at a lower frequency, i wouldnt like a burned phone but it seemed cool at 864
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Lol! it will not burn that requires too much heat ...
But it will decrease life definitely
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Firstly you can't burn phone with overclocking.
Seconldy, stability of cpu depends on the level of batery. For example: My phone runs 806mhz without any problem when batery is fully charged. When baterry level is about 60% my phone is much more unstable. So try to set this frequency when your battery level is low.

Are you sure its x8?
Lol
What have you done to your phone??:what:
:good: as long as you don't have any problem its ok

Do a big smile, because you are lucky. And this is normal, the 7x27 chips can handle 8-900 MHz without any problem, but the most x8 owner have low quality SoC with 600 MHz, the high quality chips marked and sold as 7x27T with 800MHz default clock (you can find it in low end galaxy models and other phones what equipped with 7x27 but the default clock is 800 MHz).
Wait while the battery level is only 10-15% and burn the phone with games/benchmarks. If the phone not freeze while the battery turn to empty, you can use this frequency (when the battery level is low, the cpu got lower voltage, this is normal, the difference not significant, only few mV but sometime this is enough to make the phone unstable).
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i used 864MHz when battery was at 7% and i did antutu benchmark score was about 3780...it's stable also with very low battery
anyway the score wasn't so good i guess because sdcard is really bad
i will post screenshot of battery and antutu as soon as i go again at low batter

white_cat said:
i used 864MHz when battery was at 7% and i did antutu benchmark score was about 3780...it's stable also with very low battery
anyway the score wasn't so good i guess because sdcard is really bad
i will post screenshot of battery and antutu as soon as i go again at low batter
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:what:
This score is very good:thumbup:
Mine is only around 2500 without overclocking
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I dont think theres any life drop on the cpu when overclocking too much - contrary to what people believe. Ive oced dozens of cpus and havent seen one burn and die from that. All modern chips will simply reset if they cant handle it.
My shakira can easily handle 800+ so its always running at these levels since i got it. And yea, its better at benchmarks like this
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nobodyAtall said:
I dont think theres any life drop on the cpu when overclocking too much - contrary to what people believe. Ive oced dozens of cpus and havent seen one burn and die from that. All modern chips will simply reset if they cant handle it.
My shakira can easily handle 800+ so its always running at these levels since i got it. And yea, its better at benchmarks like this
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Soo
Shall we overclock at maximum possible value??

You men are lucky. I just insmod the overclock module and the system fails in seconds

xWhiskey said:
You men are lucky. I just insmod the overclock module and the system fails in seconds
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I think you are the only one whose system crashed just after using insmod command

Gogeta said:
I think you are the only one whose system crashed just after using insmod command
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Aye. My mother always said I was special.

xWhiskey said:
Aye. My mother always said I was special.
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can you write in detail the steps you did? the module and insmod.
[cAs]

cascabel said:
can you write in detail the steps you did? the module and insmod.
[cAs]
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The ROM already had the module, but it wasn't provisioned for in hw_config because of possible instabilities. All I did was to insmod it via Terminal Emulator just to see if the overclock was possible, but the system crashed almost instantly. When the ROM was still fresh, it actually managed to work, but everything was extremely slow and laggy. My idea is either that the stock kernel or the ROM just don't do that well with overclocking, so I just abandoned the concept completely. Besides, I'm satisfied with the performance anyway. No need for perfectionism here

[Q] Incredibly hot battery temp!

Hi, I overclocked my One to 2.16 GHz (CPU) and 450 MHz (GPU)... when I play heavy games I reach really hot temperatures, the highest I get was 56.5 ℃ (133.7 ℉)... My question is: can the phone handle temperatures like these, or I risk to "fry" it?
P.S.: Sorry for my bad english!

It'll shut off when it gets too hot. 56.5 should be fine for playing games
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Why would you overclock a already fast phone to 2.16ghz ?

drakeymcmb said:
Why would you overclock a already fast phone to 2.16ghz ?
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The same reason people overclock their computer's, for that last little oompf
Enjoy your free thanks, i didn't mean to

Ugh don't overclock then...
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drakeymcmb said:
Why would you overclock a already fast phone to 2.16ghz ?
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Also wondering...in comparision videos of galaxy s4 vs the htc one i see the galaxy s4 starts apps faster and loads maps faster ingame.
Maybe this makes the difference or makes the one even faster?
Someone should do a video.
Also whats your battery life while gaming if i may ask?

drakeymcmb said:
Why would you overclock a already fast phone to 2.16ghz ?
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To see how far can it go. But if the temp is unsafe, I will downclock it.
@xxquicksh0txx: Are you sure? So can I consider 56.5 ℃ a Sade temperature?

xxquicksh0txx said:
The same reason people overclock their computer's, for that last little oompf
Enjoy your free thanks, i didn't mean to
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But at least on the PC you can feel the extra 2fps /sarcasm

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Hi, I overclocked my One to
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Duh. No wonder it is overheating.

borgqueenx said:
Also whats your battery life while gaming if i may ask?
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I don't know because I play with the phone plugged in the charger.

serialtoon said:
But at least on the PC you can feel the extra 2fps /sarcasm
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True, there really is no point in overclocking right now. Seeing as we can max out everything basically.
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Don't play while recharging the phone, makes the phone heat up faster
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I think that it will "fry" soon at 2.16 Ghz

ImJacky said:
I think that it will "fry" soon at 2.16 Ghz
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It is indeed dangerous to pressure your phone for a long period of time at those levels. If I want to play games I fire up my Xbox.
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mate this is not a PC... it doesnt have the tolerances to hold such a high overclock. replace the heatsink with a noctua or something like i have in my pc below then you can overclock as much as you want. Dont cry the day your phone stops working
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aliquo93 said:
I don't know because I play with the phone plugged in the charger.
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I'm starting to think you're a troll.

ArmedandDangerous said:
I'm starting to think you're a troll.
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No, I'm not, lol. If I play with the phone unplugged the battery goes down too quickly.
Anyway, I heard that HTC tests their devices at hot temperatures, and I know that when a phone overheates too much, it reboots automatically, like a PC. It's never happened to me, so I think it's stable for now.

aliquo93 said:
No, I'm not, lol. If I play with the phone unplugged the battery goes down too quickly.
Anyway, I heard that HTC tests their devices at hot temperatures, and I know that when a phone overheates too much, it reboots automatically, like a PC. It's never happened to me, so I think it's stable for now.
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I think you should bump it down to 1.9 GHz and undervolt it a tad, and be sure to play unplugged, no matter what the battery is like. If you're finding the battery poor, I assue you that I find most games work fine at 1.1GHz ( Power Saving mode ON) with only neglible slower loading times (some games will take 10 seconds longer to load, but the battery is much improved). Turning your brightness down will also help to reduce those temperatures and increase the battery life while gaming.

In hamdir's gaming thread he did a test that showed underclocking the cpu didn't affect gaming (same as overclocking) since the gpu continued to run at 400mhz (or 450 when overclocked). Either way there is no need to really burn the thing at 2.16 unless you plan on using aftermarket cooling lol

Nexus 5 Thermal Throttling

So, after watching this guy running some throttling test on several smartphones, I started wondering if my Nexus 5 was facing similar throttling issues; just like some Snapdragon 810 devices do. Also, I wanted to extend the testing results, in order to ascertain if Screen Brightness matters, and by how much.
The testing procedure was the following:
I kept running the Geekbench benchmark repeatedly for 10 minutes and taking note of the Multi-threaded score.
For the first set of runs I had the brightness decreased to Minimum. Then I left the device untouched for about 5 minutes (in order to cool down) and ran the test again with the Screen Brightness set to Maximum.
During the tests my Nexus 5 was:
-Stock Android 6.0 Marshmallow
-Stock clocks
-Stock thermal throttle temperature
-Unrooted
You can see the results on the following graph:
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Yes, Nexus 5 does throttle. Yes, screen brightness does matter.
Does this make Nexus 5 a bad device?
Not by a long shot!
So guys, what do you thing about all this? Does throttling matter to you? Did you get different results on Custom ROMs?
If so, please share them with us!

That "news" are as old as the N5 is...

oifi said:
That "news" are as old as the N5 is...
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I just wanted to share some interesting results. We all knew that N5 throttles, but I wanted to investigate "how much it throttles", and also "how much is screen brightness affecting it".
Also, I have added the poll to see how much people here care about the throttling.
You don't have to be mean...

amkirk94 said:
I just wanted to share some interesting results. We all knew that N5 throttles, but I wanted to investigate "how much it throttles", and also "how much is screen brightness affecting it".
Also, I have added the poll to see how much people here care about the throttling.
You don't have to be mean...
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People will criticize what you do no matter what. Don't pay attention to their gratuitous diatribe.
Thank you for offering a more detailed analysis of the problem at hand.

I didn't want to offend you. N5 also dimms the screen if it gets too hot. So you can't see how slow it is after throtteling. [emoji6]
And yes, it is very annoying.

For myself throttling is a matter or not depends on how serious of it, quite sure something like the 810 I will totally avoild, but 808 will be acceptable for me.
p.s. I don't know which options I shall choose.

DummyPLUG said:
For myself throttling is a matter or not depends on how serious of it, quite sure something like the 810 I will totally avoild, but 808 will be acceptable for me.
p.s. I don't know which options I shall choose.
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If you look at this video, you can clearly see that Snapdragon 808 does not throttle at all.
The problem with throttling is that even though they are selling us a 2.3 GHz device, we don't get these clocks after a couple of minutes surfing on the web (for example)... In other words, we don't get what we thought we paid for.
I bet that Nexus 5 could even reach 3 GHz if its power source allows it, but the thermal limit would make it impossible to sustain those clocks for more than 10 seconds
p.s. I think the first choice "Yes, of course it does" is the choice for you

amkirk94 said:
If you look at this video, you can clearly see that Snapdragon 808 does not throttle at all.
The problem with throttling is that even though they are selling us a 2.3 GHz device, we don't get these clocks after a couple of minutes surfing on the web (for example)... In other words, we don't get what we thought we paid for.
I bet that Nexus 5 could even reach 3 GHz if its power source allows it, but the thermal limit would make it impossible to sustain those clocks for more than 10 seconds
p.s. I think the first choice "Yes, of course it does" is the choice for you
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As I know the 808, at least in G4 does throttling, just not as serious as 810. So does the 7420. I agree most if not all current highend cpu does throttling, slow down a little bit is acceptable, but 810 really slow down too much. There are review 808 actually faster then 810 when under load.
Nexus 6p use so call v2 of 810, I wonder if help on throttling.
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DummyPLUG said:
Nexus 6p use so call v2 of 810, I wonder if help on throttling.
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All 810s have been v2.1 even the htc m9 ... What varies is the clock speed... Oneplus two had 1.9ghz htc had 2.0 and Sony too is driving at 2.0 with heatsinks .... What would be interesting is if Google too asked huawei to use heatsinks

rohit25 said:
All 810s have been v2.1 even the htc m9 ... What varies is the clock speed... Oneplus two had 1.9ghz htc had 2.0 and Sony too is driving at 2.0 with heatsinks .... What would be interesting is if Google too asked huawei to use heatsinks
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OnePlus 2 is 1.82GHz, while Nexus 6P is at 2.0Ghz. I think 6P really needs those heatsinks, if they don't want it throttling...

DummyPLUG said:
As I know the 808, at least in G4 does throttling, just not as serious as 810. So does the 7420. I agree most if not all current highend cpu does throttling, slow down a little bit is acceptable, but 810 really slow down too much. There are review 808 actually faster then 810 when under load.
Nexus 6p use so call v2 of 810, I wonder if help on throttling.
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Nvm I'm wrong lol
Here's a nice article on the history of the SD810
http://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-810-v2-617956/
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