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[Q] How many times can I OTA before its too late?

Hey ho guys. I have a 5S with the Downgrade to NCE flash found on this board. I would like to have the latest Kitkat without updating to Lollipop and getting the locked bootloader. I just downgraded today to NCE and bravely did one OTA. It got me to NG3. Can I OTA again to get OA1 or will it jump me to OC4? Or should I use one of the methods here on the board to upgrade and totally avoid OTA? Thanks, later.

Sowden said:
Hey ho guys. I have a 5S with the Downgrade to NCE flash found on this board. I would like to have the latest Kitkat without updating to Lollipop and getting the locked bootloader. I just downgraded today to NCE and bravely did one OTA. It got me to NG3. Can I OTA again to get OA1 or will it jump me to OC4? Or should I use one of the methods here on the board to upgrade and totally avoid OTA? Thanks, later.
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If you want root capabilities i wouldn't take any OTA. You'll still have to go back to NCE to root anyhow i believe. As far as the boot loader it is and always has been locked on the AT&T S5. The only method for root is towel root and I'm not sure if it'll work on NG3. If not you'll have to go down to NCE

dirtydodge said:
The only method for root is towel root and I'm not sure if it'll work on NG3. If not you'll have to go down to NCE
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Yeah, I should have preference that I am after root. But towelroot works on NG3, you can read about that here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/g900and3tong3keeprootota-zip-t2862299
After I took the brave OTA I followed the threads instructions and it worked. There is a thread here that talks about root for OA1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120
It says just to take the OTA. I guess its still safe to take the OTA then after NG3? And I can't seem to find any rom on here thats stock OA1. Anyone know if I aren't seeing it? Thanks.

Sowden said:
Yeah, I should have preference that I am after root. But towelroot works on NG3, you can read about that here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/g900and3tong3keeprootota-zip-t2862299
After I took the brave OTA I followed the threads instructions and it worked. There is a thread here that talks about root for OA1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120
It says just to take the OTA. I guess its still safe to take the OTA then after NG3? And I can't seem to find any rom on here thats stock OA1. Anyone know if I aren't seeing it? Thanks.
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Most of the roms are based on nce or ng3. If you go to oa1 and flash a nce or ng3 rom your phone will be slow because of the different bootloader, and the camera is screwed up. I'd stay on ng3 and not worry about oa1. That's my opinion. I'm on 5.0 running the Twi5ted rom and having no problems with it. Most devs have moved to 5.0 lollipop and the 4.4.2 - 4.4.4 roms will be more and more abandond in my opinion.

dirtydodge said:
Most of the roms are based on nce or ng3. If you go to oa1 and flash a nce or ng3 rom your phone will be slow because of the different bootloader, and the camera is screwed up. I'd stay on ng3 and not worry about oa1. That's my opinion. I'm on 5.0 running the Twi5ted rom and having no problems with it. Most devs have moved to 5.0 lollipop and the 4.4.2 - 4.4.4 roms will be more and more abandond in my opinion.
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Ah see I haven't tried any of the custom roms posted on here yet. But can I have NC3 as stock and on another ROM Slot (using Safestrap) have a Lollipop rom? Having one slot be 4.2.2 and the other be 5, basically. So the bootloader is different from NC3 to OA1, good to know. I'm glad I stopped at NC3 then. Thanks for your help.

Sowden said:
Ah see I haven't tried any of the custom roms posted on here yet. But can I have NC3 as stock and on another ROM Slot (using Safestrap) have a Lollipop rom? Having one slot be 4.2.2 and the other be 5, basically. So the bootloader is different from NC3 to OA1, good to know. I'm glad I stopped at NC3 then. Thanks for your help.
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I'm not sure on the different slots and bootloader mainly because when i used different slots the battery drain was unbearable. I don't know if they every fixed the battery drain issue when using different slots. It was bad enough that i just stuck to the stock slot and flashed only in that slot.

Help! How to downgrade from marshmallow ( nexus experience rom) to lollipop (stock ro

Can anyone pls tel how do i downgrade from marshmallow 6.0.1 to lollipop 5.0.2?
Currently my bootloader version is 48.83. I dnt remember what it was on lollipop. Pls help!

Just use your backup that you made prior to upgrading to Marshmallow. If you don't have the backup, just flash a different ROM. Plenty of guides on the site.

spetrie said:
Just use your backup that you made prior to upgrading to Marshmallow. If you don't have the backup, just flash a different ROM. Plenty of guides on the site.
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I have made the backup. But i have heard about many people hard bricking the phone when trying to downgrade and then again upgrading via ota. Thats why i askd.

If u are on custom rom other than motorola marshmallow soak test ota.. you will not get ur phone bricked when downgrading. Hard brick occurs if u downgrad from soak test ota to lollipop. In your case u just need to flash retaildsdsall firmware via fastboot mood. Search for tutorials for reverting to stoc 5.0.2.

Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.

gauravrai said:
If u are on custom rom other than motorola marshmallow soak test ota.. you will not get ur phone bricked when downgrading. Hard brick occurs if u downgrad from soak test ota to lollipop. In your case u just need to flash retaildsdsall firmware via fastboot mood. Search for tutorials for reverting to stoc 5.0.2.
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I have made a nandroid backup. Currently m on nexus experience rom. One of my friend was in resurrection remix (marshmallow) he faced some bugs so he came back to lollipop. It worked fine for him. But when he tried to flash the soak test ota, he hard bricked his phone... Why did that happen??

rcoacci said:
Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.
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Currently my bootloader versuon is 48.83
What is the version on lollipop? Bootloader dsnt change on flashing roms ryt?

sumedhs said:
I have made the backup. But i have heard about many people hard bricking the phone when trying to downgrade and then again upgrading via ota. Thats why i askd.
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All I can say is that I was on Nexus Experience 10.0.4 (Marshmallow) but could not get adopted storage to work so restored my previous AOSP lollipop ROM from TWRP backup and no issues. My Bootloader is 48.82. I have never used the soak test version or OTA version of marshmallow.
I have also in the past restored stock lollipop V5.0.2 from other lollipop versions with no issues.

rcoacci said:
Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.
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which files or command to skip in this process

if u use L ROM then this one is the latest or last update of L ROM and i have used many days.........and its good.....its CM based LINK or If u like a pure Stock L ROM with Optimized then here it goes LINK

ezio1723 said:
which files or command to skip in this process
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Same question here as well. Which command flashes the bootloader, so that I can skip them

rebzin said:
Same question here as well. Which command flashes the bootloader, so that I can skip them
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you can use easyinstaller file it will automatically flashes the files

My bootloader is 0×4887 I am running a stock mm and I wud like to downgrade to lollipop to use the stellar kernel way shud I do...???pls help
Just a noobie....
Sry if tat was bad English..!!

Just don't downgrade your Bootloader and you should be fine, if you're using an easyinstaller script to flash stock Lollipop make sure and remove the lines of code that flash motoboot.img & I'd also recommend removing the line that flashes gpt.bin to be safe.

Latest Bootloader - Can I Install Lollipop or KitKat Roms?

Hello
I have a moto g titan xt1068 dual sim which was originally running stock lollipop 5.02 and was updated with the OTA stagefright update and then the OTA MM6.0 official by motorola.
I have since installed custom roms cyanogen 13.0 and cyanpop 6.2
I know my bootloader is now the latest, so my question is can I now only install MM based roms? or can I still install KK & LP based custom roms?
or will installing LP or KK based roms hard brick my device?
Many thanks for any help

i'd like to know it too...

I'm not sure, but I can't really see why not. The bootloader being the latest changes jack squat on the question of being able to install older versions of Android or not. I mean, I WAS able to install the stock LP ROM on the MM bootloader, but your mileage may vary.

Yeah you can. Just don't try to downgrade your bootloader while downgrading to previous stock Android version. Itll brick your phone.
But just flashing custom Roms is safe.

sagar846 said:
Yeah you can. Just don't try to downgrade your bootloader while downgrading to previous stock Android version. Itll brick your phone.
But just flashing custom Roms is safe.
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ooh yeah, i remember i installed the MM Stock, and after installed the KK Stock, and with KK made a OTA update to LP and bricked my phone :/

sagar846 said:
Yeah you can. Just don't try to downgrade your bootloader while downgrading to previous stock Android version. Itll brick your phone.
But just flashing custom Roms is safe.
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That's bullsh-t.. You can always downgrade your rom, but you have to be sure you're not downgrading your bootloader. So if you're using oneclick installer you have to remove the command from the script which will try to downgrade your bootloader. Also after downgrading you have to be super sure that you will not update it with OTA!
Btw.: I'm not sure downgrading through fastboot can even brick your phone.

zman01 said:
That's bullsh-t.. You can always downgrade your rom, but you have to be sure you're not downgrading your bootloader. So if you're using oneclick installer you have to remove the command from the script which will try to downgrade your bootloader. Also after downgrading you have to be super sure that you will not update it with OTA!
Btw.: I'm not sure downgrading through fastboot can even brick your phone.
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What if i downgrade to kk without downgrading the bootloader and then i flash back mm firmware? (with rsd lite for example)

h4ck3r00 said:
What if i downgrade to kk without downgrading the bootloader and then i flash back mm firmware? (with rsd lite for example)
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You can flash whatever version you want if you're not downgrading your BL

zman01 said:
You can flash whatever version you want if you're not downgrading your BL
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So, if am right, i can do whatever i want but i must not touch the bootloader.
Thanks man! :good:

h4ck3r00 said:
So, if am right, i can do whatever i want but i must not touch the bootloader.
Thanks man! :good:
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That's right.. You can touch your bootloader only when you have to upgrade it, for example in case of updating to Android N. Which I think will never happen (of course officially).
Here you can find a nice guide to downgrade your Android version.

zman01 said:
That's bullsh-t.. You can always downgrade your rom, but you have to be sure you're not downgrading your bootloader. So if you're using oneclick installer you have to remove the command from the script which will try to downgrade your bootloader. Also after downgrading you have to be super sure that you will not update it with OTA!
Btw.: I'm not sure downgrading through fastboot can even brick your phone.
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FFS, Did you actually read my post. I said NOT to Downgrade the bootloader while downgrading to a previous stock version via fastboot.

sagar846 said:
FFS, Did you actually read my post. I said NOT to Downgrade the bootloader while downgrading to a previous stock version via fastboot.
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Yeah sorry, I was a bit tired.

Thank you all for your help it is much appreciated.

[Q] Downgrade marshmallow to lollipop?

Hello guys, this is posible on the motorola droid turbo XT124?

JexusDreek1 said:
Hello guys, this is possible on the motorola droid turbo XT124?
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Since Droid Turbo XT1254 doesn't yet have stock Marshmallow from Verizon, I assume you are on a custom Marshmallow ROM or @iiWoodstocK Marshmallow Brazil ROM, based on the XT1225 stock Marshmallow ROM.
You flashed it with TWRP, which means your bootloader is unlocked.
You are still using Verizon's Lollipop radio and I assume you are still using Lollipop bootloader.
Just flash the Lollipop ROM of your choice.
If you want to go back to stock Lollipop, CF's ROM is very close or you can even flash stock image via adb or rsdlite.
IF for some reason you did flash the Marshmallow bootloader, then exclude GPT.bin from any flash commands. You can't downgrade bootloaders.

I flashed "aokp_quark_mm_unofficial_2016-10-02_0936"
I put this rom by TRWP from lollipop 5.1 verizon. I do not know if the bootloader was updated, I do not think.
Then I can go back to 5.1 verizon stock by Rsd
or fastboot?
Thank you for answers and sorry for the bad English ^^

JexusDreek1 said:
I flashed "aokp_quark_mm_unofficial_2016-10-02_0936"
I put this rom by TRWP from lollipop 5.1 verizon. I do not know if the bootloader was updated, I do not think.
Then I can go back to 5.1 verizon stock by Rsd
or fastboot?
Thank you for answers and sorry for the bad English ^^
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Yes. You flashed AOKP ROM. You can go back to stock completely, but you would get stock recovery, not TWRP (until you reflashed TWRP).
You can also flash CF ROM (computerfreek274) which is tweaked stock-based Droid Turbo Lollipop. You wouldn't even lose TWRP.
See here:
ROM Computerfreek274_Unlocked.49_1.3.7 6/5/2016 Tether, Advanced Calling, Audio Mods
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3255945

ChazzMatt said:
Yes. You flashed AOKP ROM. You can go back to stock completely, but you would get stock recovery, not TWRP (until you repaired refreshed it).
You can also flag CF ROM (computerfreak) which is tweaked stock Lollipop. You wouldn't even lose TWRP.
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3255945
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Thank you very much for supporting me.
Everything went well and now I have this rom.
TWRP reinstalled, busybox and Xposed and everything went well.
However, I have not been able to run the notification light.
And being in stock, if you turn on the LED.

JexusDreek1 said:
Thank you very much for supporting me.
Everything went well and now I have this rom.
TWRP reinstalled, busybox and Xposed and everything went well.
However, I have not been able to run the notification light.
And being in stock, if you turn on the LED.
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On stock or stock-based ROM like CF, the light only comes on if you have a very low battery. It's not a message/email notification light on stock.
On the Quark, the "notification" light only works on a few CM-based custom ROMs. @bhb27 experimented and enabled it in Resurrection Remix and Bliss and AOKP maintainer uses his coding.
If you want that, and also Lollipop, then you would have to go to the Lollipop version of Resurrection Remix, which is not being updated anymore. It still works, and you can find it over in the other forum if you scroll down into the development threads -- but @bhb27 is focusing all his attention on current software.

This question is as close to mine as I can find so I hope posting here is OK.
I got the VZ OTA update (Before unlock and root) to marsh and it literally broke a few of the programs I use. Some of them will never get updates so that is out. So I would like to go back to 5. Because I did get the OTA to 6 is it possible to go back to 5? Yes I am unlocked and rooted. OR would trying one of the 7's be better?

gps4213 said:
This question is as close to mine as I can find so I hope posting here is OK.
I got the VZ OTA update (Before unlock and root) to marsh and it literally broke a few of the programs I use. Some of them will never get updates so that is out. So I would like to go back to 5. Because I did get the OTA to 6 is it possible to go back to 5? Yes I am unlocked and rooted. OR would trying one of the 7's be better?
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If you are unlocked and rooted right now (I bolded that statement), yes you can downgrade firmware. But you have to omit gpt.bin in the commands. It's up to you if you wish to try Nougat custom ROMs but your question concerns older programs (apps) that need Lollipop, I thought.
Are there any comparable apps you can use? I don't know what functions these apps do, but if it's related to how the phone functions custom ROMs have many, many built in tweaks/options/enhancements.

Best Way and ROM (Note 7 Port) to Flash my SMN900A?

Hi recently few members oriented me about the note 3 att version issues when trying to add a new port to it. I read a little and now i am looking for recommendations to get the best (fastest, clean, uptodate) por for my phone. Opinion recommendations are welcome. I am looking for something stable.

If the n900a is running a 4.3 or newer bootloader, the bootloader is locked which means twrp cannot be installed to the phone and the phone will only run custom roms that can be flashed with safestrap or possibly flash fire.

audit13 said:
If the n900a is running a 4.3 or newer bootloader, the bootloader is locked which means twrp cannot be installed to the phone and the phone will only run custom roms that can be flashed with safestrap or possibly flash fire.
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I think is running the old version. I checked the AP and it ends in OC2

With oc2, the bootloader is locked.

audit13 said:
If the n900a is running a 4.3 or newer bootloader, the bootloader is locked which means twrp cannot be installed to the phone and the phone will only run custom roms that can be flashed with safestrap or possibly flash fire.
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and there is a way out of this? i cant really be sure some posts says you cant soe post there are ways to get something up

Nope, I know of no way around the locked bootloader. Same situation exists for the AT&T Samsung s4 which also has a locked bootloader.
I have never seen a post where someone can run twrp or cwm on an at&t s4 or note 3 with a locked bootloader.

Ohh well there goes my hope i guess i cant do anything. Any other kind of modification i can do to this phone?

You can root to remove bloatware. You can also use safestrap to flash some custom ROMs. Look in the development thread for ROMs that work with a locked bootloader. Here's an example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786666

audit13 said:
You can root to remove bloatware. You can also use safestrap to flash some custom ROMs. Look in the development thread for ROMs that work with a locked bootloader. Here's an example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786666
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Do you have a link to any tutorials showing how to root a n900a without needing TWRP? All the guides I am seeing are not n900a specific or tie-in custom ROM flashing as well which is obviously not applicable in this case.

This post may help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59666958&postcount=2

audit13 said:
You can root to remove bloatware. You can also use safestrap to flash some custom ROMs. Look in the development thread for ROMs that work with a locked bootloader. Here's an example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786666
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oh well you try no note 7 port for me thanks for the help

audit13 said:
This post may help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59666958&postcount=2
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It would help, but I'm already on 5.0 OC2. Is is even possible to root at this point?

It only takes 10 minutes to Odin back to 4.4.4, which can be rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/kitkat-4-4-4-n900aucudnl1-odin-tars-t2999317
Then I highly recommend the AryaMod ROM. Insanely fast and the battery lasts forever.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/development/rom-aryamod-v8-3-tw-lollipop-att-t3422443