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Hello Milestone users!
I am using Moto milestone for some time now and I have a question about battery calibration status. In NORMAL hacked recoveries there was an option "Wipe Battery Status". Of course in Open recover (got recovery and i guess adb recovery too) that option doesn't exist. I wonder if any of wipes available does something like battery status wipe? If so, does restoring nandroid system backup affect somehow battery capacity information? I'm asking because i get miserable battery life on single charge and i'm seeking for a reason (about 14h of well.. light usage...)
Sorry for any grammar/spelling mistakes, English is not my native language. I hope this post i readable
k_myk said:
Hello Milestone users!
I am using Moto milestone for some time now and I have a question about battery calibration status. In NORMAL hacked recoveries there was an option "Wipe Battery Status". Of course in Open recover (got recovery and i guess adb recovery too) that option doesn't exist. I wonder if any of wipes available does something like battery status wipe? If so, does restoring nandroid system backup affect somehow battery capacity information? I'm asking because i get miserable battery life on single charge and i'm seeking for a reason (about 14h of well.. light usage...)
Sorry for any grammar/spelling mistakes, English is not my native language. I hope this post i readable
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No worries: just open an adb shell and type the following.
mount -a
rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
The battery stats are stored in the mentioned .bin file!
@guildamx ...
im using HTC G1.. the battery life isnt so good... should i use this script u have mentioned? im using cyanogen 5.0.8 eclair 2.1
fahad123 said:
@guildamx ...
im using HTC G1.. the battery life isnt so good... should i use this script u have mentioned? im using cyanogen 5.0.8 eclair 2.1
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According to my personal experience, whenever you flash a rom which is basically different from the one you are going to remove, it is useful to wipe the battery stats and charge the phone to its full capacity.
This is generally valid for all the android phones.
guildamx said:
No worries: just open an adb shell and type the following.
mount -a
rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
The battery stats are stored in the mentioned .bin file!
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Thank you, Sir! I was not aware of that script I will try that for sure, but I guess I will still have to visit my carrier and send my milestone on warranty.. Come on... 14 hours? I can't plug it twice a day EVERY day..
k_myk said:
Thank you, Sir! I was not aware of that script I will try that for sure, but I guess I will still have to visit my carrier and send my milestone on warranty.. Come on... 14 hours? I can't plug it twice a day EVERY day..
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Please do the proper test before sending your phone to the assistance.
Consider that the battery life depends on:
- your peculiar usage (do you listen to music or play games?)
- the number of active widgets which connect to the net
- the quality of radio signal of the area where you are
- the temperature...
Consequently, wipe the battery stats, charge the phone to its max capacity and come back here!
guildamx said:
Please do the proper test before sending your phone to the assistance.
Consider that the battery life depends on:
- your peculiar usage (do you listen to music or play games?)
- the number of active widgets which connect to the net
- the quality of radio signal of the area where you are
- the temperature...
Consequently, wipe the battery stats, charge the phone to its max capacity and come back here!
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OK, if users don't mind I will "extend" this thread and complain about my battery;
In general it looks like this:
-Auto brightness always on
-3G always on
-google sync on
-exchange sync on
-weather sync once for 4 hours
-news sync once for 4 hours
-no data absorbing widgets (only weather bug)
-no games
-no music
Oh, and about signal quality.. I almost always am in good range of 3g/hsdpa network
Now, I don't surf internet alot, but I read news when I go to work and home. Screen is active total 2,5h a day and according to battery use built in android screen absorbs up to 75% of whole battery! (usually 60-66%)
I made some reaserch one day and I wiped whole phone, switched to edge, disabled exchange sync so I used stock settings. No apps, no additional data (only google account) and battery still made only 14h... That made me think, that something is not quite ok.. I had previously htc magic and battery was not an issue that I would consider as important. (I know bigger screen etc, but still...) If you think I am doing something wrong please advise
I will try your tip with battery ststus wipe in a minute and will give report tomorrow or day after
Thank you for your help! I appreciate it!
k_myk said:
OK, if users don't mind I will "extend" this thread and complain about my battery;
In general it looks like this:
-Auto brightness always on
-3G always on
-google sync on
-exchange sync on
-weather sync once for 4 hours
-news sync once for 4 hours
-no data absorbing widgets (only weather bug)
-no games
-no music
Oh, and about signal quality.. I almost always am in good range of 3g/hsdpa network
Now, I don't surf internet alot, but I read news when I go to work and home. Screen is active total 2,5h a day and according to battery use built in android screen absorbs up to 75% of whole battery! (usually 60-66%)
I made some reaserch one day and I wiped whole phone, switched to edge, disabled exchange sync so I used stock settings. No apps, no additional data (only google account) and battery still made only 14h... That made me think, that something is not quite ok.. I had previously htc magic and battery was not an issue that I would consider as important. (I know bigger screen etc, but still...) If you think I am doing something wrong please advise
I will try your tip with battery ststus wipe in a minute and will give report tomorrow or day after
Thank you for your help! I appreciate it!
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Don't want to disappoint you, but from the description of your usage 14 hours might be normal. Especially with 2.5h screen being on. Few advices: disable google sync (I assume you use exchange) you will get 10-15% more. Make sure you don't have widgets that update themselves set to update too often, remove the weather widget from screen (just for a day to see what gives), consider installing SetCPU for root users (free for XDA members) and define some profiles like lower CPU frequency while screen is off, or when you reach certain batterly levels (of course if you have root).
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I had previously htc magic and battery was not an issue that I would consider as important. (I know bigger screen etc, but still...)
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I also had a magic and, according to my experience, the Milestone's battery lasts as long as Magic's one, if not a little more.
Switching from HTC to Motorola did not affect my usage abits, and maybe it's the same for you, so I think the differences may be due to the battery itself.
Try changing it!
Are there other ways to wipe the battery status other than using ADB?
Qazz~ said:
Are there other ways to wipe the battery status other than using ADB?
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Sure: you can manually delete the file "batterystats.bin" stored in /data/system/ using apps like Root Explorer. Before you have to set the filesystem as "read/write".
With the Magic it was also possible using the recovery; maybe the next releases of GOT's O.R. will add this feature.
guildamx said:
I also had a magic and, according to my experience, the Milestone's battery lasts as long as Magic's one, if not a little more.
Switching from HTC to Motorola did not affect my usage abits, and maybe it's the same for you, so I think the differences may be due to the battery itself.
Try changing it!
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Well, maybe you're right about usage. Physical qwerty under the 3.7 " screen... It screams for being used for browsing and reading news Good old magic wasn't that attractive.
I've wiped battery stats and if I don't use it a lot (1h screen on) and don't make many phone calls MS is able to make 24h uptime without charging. (Thanks for the tip, I didn't know it's that easy)
I guess I could send it to service just to make sure everything is technically ok, but atm I don't feel like stop using smartphone for over 2 weeks ^^
Thank you for all your help!
Cheers!
k_myk said:
-exchange sync on
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Some user at PDAClub.pl who had got a deep look into the matter of low battery life got to conclusion that the exchange sync sucks the juice out of the battery like crazy.
Please refer to thread "Milestone - Bateriowy koszmar" in the Milestone section of PDAClub.pl forum.
I have it off,all the time,but still baterry life sucks.
Unfortunately its something we have to learn to live with...
Sent from my Milestone
guildamx said:
Sure: you can manually delete the file "batterystats.bin" stored in /data/system/ using apps like Root Explorer. Before you have to set the filesystem as "read/write".
With the Magic it was also possible using the recovery; maybe the next releases of GOT's O.R. will add this feature.
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do you have to fully charge you battery to 100% before deleting the batterystats.bin? Or can you delete it whenever at whatever battery %?
As far as I know, if for any reason battery stats are messed up, you will not be able to charge the phone to 100%. I mean that the phone will display a full charge indication but the battery would not be 100%. Consequently, I'd suggest to wipe the battery stats befeore charging...
Do you guys suggest to Wipe Battery Stats? I never done it on my tab, but would like to hear your thoughts before i jump the gun,
Thanks
I (like many of you, I'm sure) plan on flashing a FroYo rom as soon as the most stable one is available, but of all the things that came pre-loaded on this phone, the music player is my favorite of any device I've owned.
Does anyone here know of a way to extract it or install it again after flashing?
Any help is appreciated
Yeah I have been really pleasently surprised with the quality of the music app.
aren't our music player the same as the i9000?
Except when it stops working when the battery gets to 9%.
I've owned this phone for about two weeks now, playing with it non-stop and have honestly never let it drop below 40ish percent battery life.
Some of us are just more responsible with our devices battery than others.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S - Captivate using XDA App
bfgarzilla9k said:
I've owned this phone for about two weeks now, playing with it non-stop and have honestly never let it drop below 40ish percent battery life.
Some of us are just more responsible with our devices battery than others.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S - Captivate using XDA App
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I fail to understand this comment.
Besides the bad idea of not draining your battery the first few times, and fully charging it, which helps it work to it's fullest, letting the battery drop and being irresponsible are not the same thing.
Better way to say it is "Some of us have a charger handy more often than others. Aren't we lucky"
E_man5112 said:
I fail to understand this comment.
Besides the bad idea of not draining your battery the first few times, and fully charging it, which helps it work to it's fullest, letting the battery drop and being irresponsible are not the same thing.
Better way to say it is "Some of us have a charger handy more often than others. Aren't we lucky"
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*sigh*
Anyways, help with the music player would be appreciated.
bfgarzilla9k said:
I've owned this phone for about two weeks now, playing with it non-stop and have honestly never let it drop below 40ish percent battery life.
Some of us are just more responsible with our devices battery than others.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S - Captivate using XDA App
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I would love to know how you are more "responsible" than those who have issues with battery life.
The music player is pretty nifty. Someone will probably figure out a way to export it.
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Are you guys so clueless as to having to have things spelled out for you?
Responsible with battery life =
Making sure you don't install crap apps and let them hang for battery drain.
Not running intensive tasks when battery gets low.
Optimizing screen power usage.
no music player widget sucks balls
caelestis2 said:
Are you guys so clueless as to having to have things spelled out for you?
Responsible with battery life =
Making sure you don't install crap apps and let them hang for battery drain.
Not running intensive tasks when battery gets low.
Optimizing screen power usage.
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Apparently i do need it spelled out for me. I cant get my screen to use less than 60% of my battery.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
caelestis2 said:
Are you guys so clueless as to having to have things spelled out for you?
Responsible with battery life =
Making sure you don't install crap apps and let them hang for battery drain.
Not running intensive tasks when battery gets low.
Optimizing screen power usage.
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EXACTLY what I meant. Thank you. But, that's really beside the point..
Can we please discuss a way to back this music player app up somehow?
han.azuki said:
no music player widget sucks balls
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I find not having a music widget isn't that big a deal, because you can access the music player from the notification menu, and from the lock screen.
Yeah...so anyway, back to the main topic...
Check out the following post, I believe the music player is in this bundle (complete list of apps is in post #12). Obviously this is from Eclair and not guaranteed to work on Froyo, but hell it's worth a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712594
But as devs are still ramping up, we may see an official Sammy build of Froyo before a custom one (albeit for the International Galaxy S, not the American Death Star or Tmo versions)...
I like the music player except one horrible concept on it. I wish there was a way to go to artist then pick the album I want instead of having to scroll through every album's songs just to find one. Very annoying. I like it as far as a touchscreen music player goes but as far as usability I liked the Music player on my Curse 8900 better.
E_man5112 said:
I fail to understand this comment.
Besides the bad idea of not draining your battery the first few times, and fully charging it, which helps it work to it's fullest, letting the battery drop and being irresponsible are not the same thing.
Better way to say it is "Some of us have a charger handy more often than others. Aren't we lucky"
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Yes it is one and the same thing.
Take it from me who has had to deal with roommates whom did not charge their phones quite often. This has lead to urgent phone calls always missed about rent, fees or stuff they have done in the home that needed urgent care.
Charging your battery and making sure your phone is always functional is part of a responsibility. The purpose of a phone is for someone to get a hold of you for a reason.
Can you imagine a doctor that never charges his phone and lets his battery stay around 9%? Yeah, I think you got it.
Agree.. but except for this.. I love the player.
Anybody know if the "5.1" mode is he real thing or just a gimmick ? Music does sound better in this mode in my car.
Regards
Nick
Neckrobeard said:
I like the music player except one horrible concept on it. I wish there was a way to go to artist then pick the album I want instead of having to scroll through every album's songs just to find one. Very annoying. I like it as far as a touchscreen music player goes but as far as usability I liked the Music player on my Curse 8900 better.
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I atually have a question about this music player too. But quite opposite, I dislike this app very much, it can't do change songs when double click the remote on the earphone. It won't recongize the playlist I synced from doubletwist either. It's a lot worse than the music app from the thread "[APK] AOSP APK´s for Galaxy S"
I am wondering if I can remove the stock music player or at least disable it so it won't auto start too when I click the remote trying to play songs from my new music app.
caelestis2 said:
Are you guys so clueless as to having to have things spelled out for you?
Responsible with battery life =
Making sure you don't install crap apps and let them hang for battery drain.
Not running intensive tasks when battery gets low.
Optimizing screen power usage.
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1. Check
2. Check
3. Check
Geeze, I still get low battery life by the end of the day. If I could charge it for an hour on the middle of the day, I would.
SlimJ87D said:
Yes it is one and the same thing.
Take it from me who has had to deal with roommates whom did not charge their phones quite often. This has lead to urgent phone calls always missed about rent, fees or stuff they have done in the home that needed urgent care.
Charging your battery and making sure your phone is always functional is part of a responsibility. The purpose of a phone is for someone to get a hold of you for a reason.
Can you imagine a doctor that never charges his phone and lets his battery stay around 9%? Yeah, I think you got it.
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*doh* at 15% battery life, the phone will live for quite a long time. Even in a phone call. So I'm not losing that (yes, I've had phone calls when my battery hits that, no problem. So no, I would not call it "irresponsible" to let the battery drop to 15%, when the ONLY functionality it affects is the stock music and video players.
If I was a doctor on call, that would mean most likely I'm either
a) at the office (with an outlet)
b) at home (with an outlet)
c) out running errands (with a car and a car charger)
d) know that of for some reason, I could not charge it, and it might affect it's function in the line of my job, I'd buy a second battery+charger and keep them both on my person in case it gets low.
Sadly, my daily routine keeps me on the move, not in a car, not near a charger for long enough to pull it out, plug it in, charge for a couple minutes, unplug, pack it up, move on. The grand total of maybe 8 minutes of charge is not worth it. I make it through the day, but my battery gets low. Please, explain how that's "irresponsible".
Yeah, I think you got it. Not everyone has easy access to chargers, not everyone is hit with functionality issues (maybe if the battery was hitting 3%, I could see an issue), so please, I get annoyed at these "responsibility" talks from people on the internet, who think they know everything.
/rant
If you download lates stable build of Cyanogen, and extract the Music.apk file from /system/apps, you can install it on the Captivate without a hitch. It also includes all of the widgets.
http://cyanogen-updater.googlecode.com/files/update-cm-5.0.8-N1-signed.zip
Device: Samsung Galaxy S GT i9000
Symptoms:
When Charging Device is hot to the Touch in the upper half of the screen and on the rear between the camera and the heat vent.
Battery drains at around 15-25% per hour when IDLE. 15% when in deep sleep in airplane mode with ALL APPS KILLED. 25% when I leave ALL network connections open and allow sync.
Phone was new less than 2 months ago. Still under warranty and I will send it back if no ideas come from this but wanted to see if anyone had a solution as I have noticed HUNDREDS of similar posts all vaguely scattered through different threads on different sites around the web and this seems like the definitive place to come to see if anyone can put their finger on it.
When did this occur?:
A short while after (days) of flashing CM9 nightly from the beginning of June (05/06 I think but can't recall exactly).
Tests performed:
Purchased new battery and fully charged - no change.
Flashed stock GB ROMs where the issue had not occured - no change.
Cleared battery stats several times - no change.
Tried different modems/radios including Nexus S radios- no result
Current ROM: CM 7.2
Kernel: Glitch 13.1
Other ROMs/Kernels where the same results were achieved...
CM9 (latest nightlies)
Stock JVU, JVS, JW4 and JW5
Semaphore Kernel, Devils Kernel
I use Voodoo Sound/Colour kernels apart from the testing I did with stock ROMs
Will leave it on over night after clearing stats so you can see for yourselves.
Any questions ask away.
I should add:
Used OS Monitor and one of the more detailed CPU monitors to look at what was going on.
Did not appear at any time to be using what I would consider high CPU utilisation, typically trending between 0 and 30ish. No background apps running, all radios turned off.
The only anomaly that stuck out at me is that system_server was using ~105% of RAM which I would have thought was rather difficult. Made me wonder if there was something loading/unloading itself from RAM.
As I am a heavy music user I have tested the Mediaserver issue where corrupt files are continually scanned by mediaserver process. Removed all media files from both my external and internal storage then formatted both while on a stock ROM (JVU and JW4). There was no change.
EDIT: I should add - The thing that makes this so strange to me is that the battery decreases at a rapid rate when Battery stats regarding usage DO NOT CHANGE. The percentages for the apps that WERE using the battery - i.e. winamp/mediaserver/android system do not change.
The reason I have posted this is that i have seen literally HUNDREDS of people posting this very same issue but never in the same place and never getting an answer.
Also - Thankyou to the kind mod/admin who approved my account so I can edit stuff. It was getting a bit annoying for the first week there.
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Hi,
To be honest I never heard/read of the problem you are describing. Most users report high battery drain on a certain ROM/kernel/modem but you say you have tried quite a lot.
If the phone is new, the only thing that comes to mind is that the USB charging socket is faulty. It may not charge properly or even have some bad connectors that are damaging the battery.
In any case, Samsung support is the way to go here.
Hope this helps
OMG, im having the same exact problem... the phone is super hot on the back where the sim card is inserted. I did everything as you, still no change, my battery lasts like 7 hours on deep sleep. Guess our phone is broken. super crap.
Anyone knows how to fix this? Is there anyway that my phone has some files from previous custom roms even though used odin to flash samsung original ones?
Had the same problem when my device was only 6 months old, the battery was becoming faulty, got a new battery and problem solved.
I bought a new battery and i still have the same problem... which battery did u get?
streakpt said:
I bought a new battery and i still have the same problem... which battery did u get?
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An official samsung battery from Amazon, re flash you device with another rom and wipe battery stats.
Did all that, the problem still continues... mega battery drain and the phone is at 44C degrees... is there any tool i can use to diagnose the problem?
Hi snaleman,
You could try BetterBatteryStats, to help diagnose your issue further, there is a paid version on the market (Google Play Store). There is also a thread on this forum, from the dev....hint
I tried winamp for android, ages ago, but had similar issues. (This player might well be your issue.) So I now use "PowerAmp". Neutron MP is cool too.
Also, do you use lippol94's kernel cleaning script. I use this every kernel/ROM change.
Search here for this:
ultimate_kernel_cleaning_script
Hope this info helps your baby.
Hey
U can try to flash a stock rom from sammmobile.com..
Use it for a few days and check...may help u..
Cheers
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Backup your apps with titanium backup or something else.
Make a backup from CWM recovery
Wipe data/cache/dalvik
Restore user apps and not system app
If your problem is not fixed you can restore your CWM backup
Nothing you guys posted worked... battery lasts 11 hours on sleep...
Another problem that im facing is that when im on a phone call, theres is alot of breaks in the other persons voice and sometimes the voice call goes out and i lose all my network signal.
If you are using the Voodoo sound app that may be the cause. I've noticed on my phone that deep sleep no longer works when the voodoo app is installed, most likely the app is holding a partial wake lock and not releasing it.
See if it happens with the app uninstalled or frozen.
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Signal Strength¿
streakpt said:
Another problem that im facing is that when im on a phone call, theres is alot of breaks in the other persons voice and sometimes the voice call goes out and i lose all my network signal.
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You've just made me think of something else that it may be.
Do you have 4 or 5 bars of signal strength?
I've found when in certain areas (very close to "deadspots" in network reception), that if I use another frequency, [eg. 900 & 2100 (for my network), yours may be different] I can get a better signal, also much better battery life, as the phone is not struggling to reach the network.
If you use your dialer to enter this code
*#*#197328640#*#*
Then
[1] DEBUG SCREEN
THEN
[8] PHONE CONTROL
then
[7] NETWORK CONTROL
then
[2] BAND SELECTION
you will then have a selection of frequencies available. The asterisk * will tell you what one(s) is/are active.
"Google" your network service providers frequency bands. I found mine were on a "Wiki" page.
I dunno whether it is a battery problem or what but I got a brand new battery
coz the last battery was too bad but the new battery also sucks.
I was wondering if it was cause of the ROM and kernel so
I switched to stock rom for trial purpose and still I got juz like barely 7 hours of juice....
with juz some files thru bluetooth and half an hour or so of texting....
so what could be causing the problem?
Here's the battery stats...
NiiSyth said:
I dunno whether it is a battery problem or what but I got a brand new battery
coz the last battery was too bad but the new battery also sucks.
I was wondering if it was cause of the ROM and kernel so
I switched to stock rom for trial purpose and still I got juz like barely 7 hours of juice....
with juz some files thru bluetooth and half an hour or so of texting....
so what could be causing the problem?
Here's the battery stats...
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I'm not really an expert on this... but I'll try!
First, data - depending on how often your apps that use data refresh, it may be killing your battery because they are always updating in the background
Next, apps - depending on how many are open, and trying to retrieve info or a responce, this may be killing your battery life
Another, backlight brightness - I would say half brightness looks almost the same as full brightness, so turn that down too. Another thing you can do is make sure that your phone times out so the screen is always on and sucking the life out of your battery
Plus, bluetooth and wifi - turn those off when you aren't using them! They turn on in a couple of seconds so there is no use in just leaving them on and draining your battery.
Lastly, I dunno what "kik" is (the app running in the corner of the status bar) but it may be using battery too (probably not because it isn't in the list of the battery use so I don't think that's it.
Anyways, in short, possibly shut off the data if you don't always use it (you don't have to tho ), go into the settings of apps, and get the refresh rate at a longer period of time (so they aren't always using data), kill any open apps if you can with an app manager, turn down the brightness of backlight, change the time it takes to shut off the backlight, and shut off the bluetooth and wifi when you aren't using it.
Unfortunatley the battery life on the Ace is far from the best, if anything it's terrible, but other than that I have very few issues with the phone.
Well... That's my two cents. Hopefully it helps, but if not, search around on the forums and see if you can find any other solutions. :fingers-crossed: I'm not the expert, but I'm trying to throw ideas out there. Good luck
Running background processes is a major battery kill. I used to get 12h+ on 3G with Stocklite V6. Never used heavy apps though. Just Textplus, Opera Mini to check fb sometimes and WhatsApp whenever someone talked to me. Light usage.
How much the battery lasts depends on the user completely.
thatdude02 said:
I'm not really an expert on this... but I'll try!
First, data - depending on how often your apps that use data refresh, it may be killing your battery because they are always updating in the background
Next, apps - depending on how many are open, and trying to retrieve info or a responce, this may be killing your battery life
Another, backlight brightness - I would say half brightness looks almost the same as full brightness, so turn that down too. Another thing you can do is make sure that your phone times out so the screen is always on and sucking the life out of your battery
Plus, bluetooth and wifi - turn those off when you aren't using them! They turn on in a couple of seconds so there is no use in just leaving them on and draining your battery.
Lastly, I dunno what "kik" is (the app running in the corner of the status bar) but it may be using battery too (probably not because it isn't in the list of the battery use so I don't think that's it.
Anyways, in short, possibly shut off the data if you don't always use it (you don't have to tho ), go into the settings of apps, and get the refresh rate at a longer period of time (so they aren't always using data), kill any open apps if you can with an app manager, turn down the brightness of backlight, change the time it takes to shut off the backlight, and shut off the bluetooth and wifi when you aren't using it.
Unfortunatley the battery life on the Ace is far from the best, if anything it's terrible, but other than that I have very few issues with the phone.
Well... That's my two cents. Hopefully it helps, but if not, search around on the forums and see if you can find any other solutions. :fingers-crossed: I'm not the expert, but I'm trying to throw ideas out there. Good luck
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First of all thnx for taking this much time out....
It's rlly helpful...
but
1. My data usage is barely 10 mb per day....
and no wifi and mearge usage of bluetooth....
2. Background apps;
only adw and one or two others...
and Kik is juz like whatsapp, a messaging app....
and it's quite lightweight, been using it since uite some time...
3. Backlight is at an always 25% and screen timeout 30 secs....
so juz wanna know if there's a possibility of some hardware fault......
coz I've tried most things possible to take out the software fault if any....
NiiSyth said:
First of all thnx for taking this much time out....
It's rlly helpful...
but
1. My data usage is barely 10 mb per day....
and no wifi and mearge usage of bluetooth....
2. Background apps;
only adw and one or two others...
and Kik is juz like whatsapp, a messaging app....
and it's quite lightweight, been using it since uite some time...
3. Backlight is at an always 25% and screen timeout 30 secs....
so juz wanna know if there's a possibility of some hardware fault......
coz I've tried most things possible to take out the software fault if any....
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Wait, i just forgot!...
I get this too sometimes, but what might help is if you reset your battery stats! I have to do this too because I found that after a half an hour after unplugging my phone with no use I lost 10% battery life, for no apparant reason. Search in the Play Store "BatteryCalibration". All you have to do is charge your phone to 100%, and tap the button . You usually have to do this after flashing a new ROM, because you might not flash it at 100% battery life and the stats go from there. So I would say, try it and see what happens.
Now... If not... The only other suggestion I have is if you find a battery booster app such as "Juice Defender" from the Play Store. I tried using it, but didn't see a huge difference (I don't have data, so I just keep it off), probably because I barely use my phone. I've also heard some thing about a script called "v6 Super Charger" (I've only heard of it, please search it if you want to know more because I sure don't ). Aparantly it boosts battery as well, but no promises haha.
If you are really desperate for better battery life, I would say switch to 2g service in the settings. Other than that.... I'm out for now
Hopefully this might help you out as well, but other than that the Ace is not well known for a good battery. But that's a mid range phone for you (but the Ace ain't no slouch either)
Anyway, goodluck!
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Ok, so after looking around a little, I found a very interesting thread about Lithium-Ion batteries! Really cool and really worth the read! I learned quite a bit. Hopefully this answers any additional questions that I wasn't able to answer!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669497
Try also eliminating any widgets or live wallpapers that you may have running. These might keep the processor running at a higher speed then neccessary, but no promises.... Plus I already mentioned closing apps you don't need (so this is pretty much the same woops) and you might have done it already.
The biggest thing to remeber is that you have to sacrifice performance for the best battery life. This may go as far as underclocking your maximum CPU speed, but this might cause some lagging especially at the startup. I think that this should be a last resort to be honest, because you still want to use a phone, and not a laggy device that you are trying to conserve as much battery as possible.
I also heard something about the motherboard possibly having a hardware fault in it causing excess discharge... But... I will need to do a little more searching to see if I can figure this out for you!
The other possiblity is that you get a power bank... But that just adds to what you have to pack around, so this is probably another last resort, but it's all up to you.
thatdude02 said:
Wait, i just forgot!...
I get this too sometimes, but what might help is if you reset your battery stats! I have to do this too because I found that after a half an hour after unplugging my phone with no use I lost 10% battery life, for no apparant reason. Search in the Play Store "BatteryCalibration". All you have to do is charge your phone to 100%, and tap the button . You usually have to do this after flashing a new ROM, because you might not flash it at 100% battery life and the stats go from there. So I would say, try it and see what happens.
Now... If not... The only other suggestion I have is if you find a battery booster app such as "Juice Defender" from the Play Store. I tried using it, but didn't see a huge difference (I don't have data, so I just keep it off), probably because I barely use my phone. I've also heard some thing about a script called "v6 Super Charger" (I've only heard of it, please search it if you want to know more because I sure don't ). Aparantly it boosts battery as well, but no promises haha.
If you are really desperate for better battery life, I would say switch to 2g service in the settings. Other than that.... I'm out for now
Hopefully this might help you out as well, but other than that the Ace is not well known for a good battery. But that's a mid range phone for you (but the Ace ain't no slouch either)
Anyway, goodluck!
-edit----------
Ok, so after looking around a little, I found a very interesting thread about Lithium-Ion batteries! Really cool and really worth the read! I learned quite a bit. Hopefully this answers any additional questions that I wasn't able to answer!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669497
Try also eliminating any widgets or live wallpapers that you may have running. These might keep the processor running at a higher speed then neccessary, but no promises.... Plus I already mentioned closing apps you don't need (so this is pretty much the same woops) and you might have done it already.
The biggest thing to remeber is that you have to sacrifice performance for the best battery life. This may go as far as underclocking your maximum CPU speed, but this might cause some lagging especially at the startup. I think that this should be a last resort to be honest, because you still want to use a phone, and not a laggy device that you are trying to conserve as much battery as possible.
I also heard something about the motherboard possibly having a hardware fault in it causing excess discharge... But... I will need to do a little more searching to see if I can figure this out for you!
The other possiblity is that you get a power bank... But that just adds to what you have to pack around, so this is probably another last resort, but it's all up to you.
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I tried battery stat reset at every charge to see if that helped....
but no friggin help...
Prolly it's the motherboard fault.....
coz I even reverted back to touchwiz launcher with juz icons and stock rom and now dat's juz the limit...
the phone looks like a crippled giant....
capable of everything but is chained by the bloody harware problem...
gonna give it to the Samsung Service center....:/
NiiSyth said:
I tried battery stat reset at every charge to see if that helped....
but no friggin help...
Prolly it's the motherboard fault.....
coz I even reverted back to touchwiz launcher with juz icons and stock rom and now dat's juz the limit...
the phone looks like a crippled giant....
capable of everything but is chained by the bloody harware problem...
gonna give it to the Samsung Service center....:/
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Probably the best thing to do! Sorry I couldn't be any help to you, so it's probably best if you do that. I love my Ace, but the battery just has to hold it back
It sucks, but anyway, I hope you can get it fixed!:fingers-crossed:
Guys i face the same problem. My battery stays only for 1 to 2 hour. I tried wiping battery stats, full discharge and charge but of on use
Need some help guys.
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This may be a common reply.. But I still would recommend using juice defender ultimate.. It helps a LOT!!
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As I'm getting a new phone for free (Galaxy S2) and the S1's sound quality is far superior I'm thinking of using it as an music player purely for AUX in the car. The current problem is that the charging port in the car is broken for now, so an battery saving rom is required for long time usage without having to charge the phone outside the car too often.
I'm really fond of the stock Samsung music player and currently running XWJWB with Semaphore because of that. Is there a setup that is more battery friendly and stable? (The phone will be used without an SIM-card and in airplane mode so I guess modems dosen't play a big part in battery life?)
If AOSP roms should prove themselves to be more battery friendly I'd gladly accept any suggestions for non-stock music players too, but in my opinion stock roms have the best quality!
P.S My *probably* fake 1650mAh battery does not hold it's charge for long nowadays so if anyone would recommend a new not-to-pricey battery I wouldn't be unhappy (1800mAh+/no extended back cover would be optimum)
dumle said:
As I'm getting a new phone for free (Galaxy S2) and the S1's sound quality is far superior I'm thinking of using it as an music player purely for AUX in the car. The current problem is that the charging port in the car is broken for now, so an battery saving rom is required for long time usage without having to charge the phone outside the car too often.
I'm really fond of the stock Samsung music player and currently running XWJWB with Semaphore because of that. Is there a setup that is more battery friendly and stable? (The phone will be used without an SIM-card and in airplane mode so I guess modems dosen't play a big part in battery life?)
If AOSP roms should prove themselves to be more battery friendly I'd gladly accept any suggestions for non-stock music players too, but in my opinion stock roms have the best quality!
P.S My *probably* fake 1650mAh battery does not hold it's charge for long nowadays so if anyone would recommend a new not-to-pricey battery I wouldn't be unhappy (1800mAh+/no extended back cover would be optimum)
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Flash a newer stock firmware. JW6 is really good or JVT. Remove every system app you dont need with nobloat. When your phone is debloated undervolt it and push it down to 800MHZ.
cixty said:
Flash a newer stock firmware. JW6 is really good or JVT. Remove every system app you dont need with nobloat. When your phone is debloated undervolt it and push it down to 800MHZ.
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Well, JWB is actually more recently released than JW6. Thanks for the other tweaks though.