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Does anybody else find the S.pen of the SGN really bad??.. when it comes to drawing some stuff..? Any remedy for that?
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i don't draw but i do annotate quite a lot, and it feels like the calibration is a bit off. what in particular about it is your concern?
Like, the place where i point the pen and the place where it writes is not the same,the location where it writes is a little bit to the upper left( not precise)... and its also has a latency after writing...
Its not a very big problem for me just a little critic...
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crz2uf said:
Does anybody else find the S.pen of the SGN really bad??.. when it comes to drawing some stuff..? Any remedy for that?
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I've used five s-pens so far, and two of them were significantly worse than the other three. Good news is that the problem is most likely with the pen itself and not with the Note!
Try getting a different pen (e.g. there is an official Samsung holder that comes with another pen). For the offset problem, try to switch from right to left to right... several times --- sometimes that helps to make the offset more reasonable. Also experiment with the angle of the Note as you write, often that makes a difference too.
Just my two cents...
The reason why it seems a bit of is done on purpose.
You notice this when you change your writing hand in the settings.
When it's set to your right hand, the drawing is slightly left of your pen. With the left hand it's the other way around.
This is done so you can see what you are drawing/writing and your hand is not in the way.
I know it sucks, but Samsung made it this way.
jellevanb said:
The reason why it seems a bit of is done on purpose.
You notice this when you change your writing hand in the settings.
When it's set to your right hand, the drawing is slightly left of your pen. With the left hand it's the other way around.
This is done so you can see what you are drawing/writing and your hand is not in the way.
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This is true, but some pens have larger offset than the others. I think some of them have sensitive elements inside aligned better. And actually this works rather nicely if the offset is reasonable, at least for me. Takes a bit of practice, but feels quite natural after a while... if you think about it, some offset is appropriate, since there are three surfaces at different depths: the writing surface, the "displaying" surface, and the actual surface which is sensitive to the pen's movements (this one is quite deep, it's behind the screen, not in front of it)...
Try different pens before giving up
Yeah the calibration is not exact to the point. When I'm writing words normally I'm not really affected, only when it comes to drawing in slow motions, the placement is off and it's frustrating for drawing little details.
However, I managed to dig out an old stylus which came with my ancient fujitsu tablet PC and it's calibrated perfectly.
I've noticed that the angle to which I hold the s-pen to the surface makes a difference in percieved accuracy.
This app has worked for me:
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLnZpdGFsLnRzdC5uNzAwMCJd
robot1000 said:
This app has worked for me:
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLnZpdGFsLnRzdC5uNzAwMCJd
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... Just note that it requires root
It will run without root, kinda, but you'll be getting something like this on the unlock:
"ERROR: IOException! No ROOT permissions?"
iamastone said:
However, I managed to dig out an old stylus which came with my ancient fujitsu tablet PC and it's calibrated perfectly.
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With the Fujitsu pen, does it have calibration issues or extra lines if you write on it upside down, like if you were lying on your back? My biggest pet peeve with this phone is that I can only use the pen if I'm sitting upright and holding the pen just so, otherwise calibration is way off and a lot of unintended lines appear.
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I've noticed that the angle to which I hold the s-pen to the surface makes a difference in percieved accuracy.
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I've noticed this too. It's most apparent to me when I set my phone on a table, holding the pen by it's very end. Touching the screen with the point and changing the angle of the pen relative to the screen--without moving the tip of the pen;s position at all--you can see the cursor move with the angle of the pen, even though the tip stays in one place.
The best way to fix this, in my mind, is for Wacom to do on this phone what they do for a lot of their tablets--have a little dot show up on the screen when you hover your pen, so you know where you'll be drawing.
thriceberg said:
With the Fujitsu pen, does it have calibration issues or extra lines if you write on it upside down, like if you were lying on your back? My biggest pet peeve with this phone is that I can only use the pen if I'm sitting upright and holding the pen just so, otherwise calibration is way off and a lot of unintended lines appear.
I've noticed this too. It's most apparent to me when I set my phone on a table, holding the pen by it's very end. Touching the screen with the point and changing the angle of the pen relative to the screen--without moving the tip of the pen;s position at all--you can see the cursor move with the angle of the pen, even though the tip stays in one place.
The best way to fix this, in my mind, is for Wacom to do on this phone what they do for a lot of their tablets--have a little dot show up on the screen when you hover your pen, so you know where you'll be drawing.
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This is a damn good idea right here. Someone should forward this to Samsung before they roll out the ICS update.
emignatius said:
This is a damn good idea right here. Someone should forward this to Samsung before they roll out the ICS update.
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I believe this is already in ICS.
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Well you guys said it all... drawing details,drawing slowly, lots of unwanted lines appear...etc...
I see, so its most likely caused by the pen rather than the note itself... ill give the app(touchscreentune) a try..thanks.
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This one :- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kensington-...X39I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342685483&sr=8-1
It's very well made and has a good heft to it, feels like quality. I've only been able to test it on my TP as N7 still on the slow boat from Timbuktoo, the TP is not as sensitive as the N7 and pressure sensitive apps don't seem to work on it so more on that when the N7 arrives. That said the stylus is very responsive and the tip does not 'stick' to the screen although I suppose it depends what (if any) screen protector you have and how tacky it is so ymmv.
The pen end is not a gimmick, it takes Parker refills so that's a big plus point, the lid clips on firmly and the pocket clip is very strong but there's nowhere to store the cap when you are using the pen as it won't fit over the stylus tip, that's a minor problem though..
I have only one big gripe but which could be a problem if you intend to use it for long periods, when using the stylus end the balance point is too far back for my liking and the stylus wants to tip back all the time, given it's weight this is noticeable quite quickly. The balance point is a tiny bit forward of the line of the cap joint which is about the two thirds mark. You can ease the problem by taking the cap off the end but that exposes the pen nib with all the dangers of drawing on your hand/clothes as well as the screen.
As I said above, it's a well made piece if kit and well worth the money, I've used a few styluses from checp nasty ones to better quality, this one is by far the best I've used yet even given the balance issue.
I got this as well and am very happy with it! This is my first tablet, so maybe I don't know what a real good stylus is, but it feels really natural to use and I actually prefer it over using my fingers. Plus less smudging and the pen is handy as well
Got my N7 this morning and have had time to play with it, compared to the TP the screen responsiveness is in another league altogether.
The stylus is smooth running across the (as yet) unprotected screen and pressure sensitivity works very well, the Kensington gets a couple more stars from me
Update, Three weeks later and while the stylus is still as good to use, the pen cap is getting loose (rubber O ring a bit thin) which means it can come apart when hung from the clip. Drops a star for that.
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Got my N7 this morning and have had time to play with it, compared to the TP the screen responsiveness is in another league altogether.
The stylus is smooth running across the (as yet) unprotected screen and pressure sensitivity works very well, the Kensington gets a couple more stars from me
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There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?
khaytsus said:
There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?
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My guess....he's using Quill or a similar app which has a tool that somehow manages to mimic pressure sensitivity.
khaytsus said:
There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?
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I wonder if there's an app that can transfer pressure sensitivity via Bluetooth or WiFi.
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I spoke of pressure sensitive Apps, not the N7 screen. I can't speak for all Apps but Markers is one that responds well to the stylus. I think it may be sensing tip coverage but it goes much further than just the area touched by the stylus (or your finger) try it and you'll see what I mean.
Final thought on this stylus, I've given up on it!
The tip went soft and started dragging on the screen and I got to dislike the feel of the stylus so much (especially the surface roughness) that I had to force myself to use it, so it's consigned to the drawer. I can use the pen refill elsewhere.
Moved on now to an Applydea Maglus, opinions pending
Troute said:
Final thought on this stylus, I've given up on it!
The tip went soft and started dragging on the screen and I got to dislike the feel of the stylus so much (especially the surface roughness) that I had to force myself to use it, so it's consigned to the drawer. I can use the pen refill elsewhere.
Moved on now to an Applydea Maglus, opinions pending
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I got the silver elago stylus for 10 bucks, made of aluminum, removable soft tip, nice length, width, weight, and it includes an additional soft tip
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I've had to ditch this stylus too - after about a month of smooth note taking using Quill the stylus has started to skip when writing, i've no idea why as it still looks solid enough and the screen is fine. But it keeps dropping out and makes it impossible to use now as a stylus...
Just recieved a Smith & Wesson tactical stylus and its fantastic on the N7 so far - works really well with the pressure effects in Quill too!
So bye bye Virtuoso
Doallyn said:
I've had to ditch this stylus too - after about a month of smooth note taking using Quill the stylus has started to skip when writing, i've no idea why as it still looks solid enough and the screen is fine. But it keeps dropping out and makes it impossible to use now as a stylus...
Just recieved a Smith & Wesson tactical stylus and its fantastic on the N7 so far - works really well with the pressure effects in Quill too!
So bye bye Virtuoso
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Mine has become totally unusable now, the tip seems sticky and will not run across the screen smoothly.
The S-Pen on my SG Note 3 has been intermittently acting screwball for a while now and I'm hoping someone out there has any better ideas than what I've found so far.
When I have the stylus within a few millimetres of the screen but not touching it, it will mark the screen, usually in a slightly heavier line than what it makes when it is actually in contact with the screen. Makes using it virtually impossible.
I've tried slamming the thing on the desk....and other various ways of just about knocking it into next week without breaking it. I've tried various app shut down procedures with reboots....which seemed to work, for about 2 or 3 minutes. I've bought a replacement S-Pen (a cheap one, so I'm not sure it counts) which acts exactly the same.
Any more ideas?
I might as well just have a Mega or (shudder) an iPhone 6 Plus.
The p20 pro is delivered with a screen protector. On top of this is also an extra layer of plastic with a red tab at the top, meant to be removed before using the phone. I have to leave this second plastic layer on the phone to be allowed to return it.
Scrolling isn't good on the device. It's like the phone hold off scrolling until I've moved my finger some distance in a direction. This causes scrolling to be unsmooth and I'm not sure if it is due to the extra plastic layer interfering with touch sensitivity or if I have a faulty device or even worse: this is the way it is.
See video below for illustration. Notice how scrolling won't move right away with the finger. How are your phones with this? I hope that it's just the plastic but I'd rather not risking it to rip it off and find the issue remaining and no return.
Comparing on my current phone, a note 8, scrolling follows the finger right away.
Link to clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzek18SlFY0&feature=youtu.be (above embedding didn't work for some reason)
It's not the plastic protector that's causing it. I have removed it and mine is exactly the same.
It's not the plastic protector that's causing it. I have removed it and mine is exactly the same.
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Sad to hear it. It makes the scrolling experience feel like something from the entry level. I really wanted to like this phone but it seems the camera is all that's going for it in my book.
TigerSoul925 said:
Sad to hear it. It makes the scrolling experience feel like something from the entry level. I really wanted to like this phone but it seems the camera is all that's going for it in my book.
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Seems to be a Huawei thing. I've had the same on a Honor 9 but it was much worse as it made it impossible to use it like I use my phones normally. It doesn't bother me too much on this one even though I notice it. On the Honor 9 it was hardware fault or just a bad digitizer because I had another Honor 9 too which was just fine and instant in the scrolling. It might be the digitizer this time around too. If I enable "show touches" under developer options it just doesn't trace the finger when doing smaller movements.
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Seems to be a Huawei thing. I've had the same on a Honor 9 but it was much worse as it made it impossible to use it like I use my phones normally. It doesn't bother me too much on this one even though I notice it. On the Honor 9 it was hardware fault or just a bad digitizer because I had another Honor 9 too which was just fine and instant in the scrolling. It might be the digitizer this time around too. If I enable "show touches" under developer options it just doesn't trace the finger when doing smaller movements.
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Same thigh here. It behaves the same way when showing touches so something tells me this may not be software but it's hard to tell. Seems some do not have the problem but I kind of get the feeling that non power users may not even notice it. I'm just the kind of person taking note of things like that this and it ruins the entire experience.
Add the horrible oversized ui to this and a few of the other kinks and suddenly all this phone seem to offer is a great camera and a lovely placed fingerprint sensor.
This seems to be the same issue as we are having in this thread.
Here is a video of the issue that I made. Note this is without the plastic interface OP was mentioning.
Mixy said:
This seems to be the same issue as we are having in this thread.
Here is a video of the issue that I made. Note this is without the plastic interface OP was mentioning.
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It's the same issue, no doubt!
Hey there,
this is just a personal opinion, but after working with the note for several months now, I have to say that I definitely miss a straight display without rounded edges - and I have to say that IMAO an edge display (in the current form) provides a bad UX, is impractical and not only it doesn´t provide any extra value, but it much more creates extra work.
My best example: A lot of times where I want to use the smart select feature, the pen just slides to the end of the display´s edge as the rounded glass makes it to do so. this is super annoying.
The edge display is a nice gimmick on the S (e.g. S9 & S10) devices, but when it comes to the NOTE series, I´d very much prefer an even display again. As long as you have a tool with a fine tip, a rounded surface is just a bad interface design decision.
I´m interested in your opinion! What do you guys think about this? Anyone out there sharing my experiences or am I the only one shouting out "GODDAMMIT" several times a week?
brooon said:
Hey there,
this is just a personal opinion, but after working with the note for several months now, I have to say that I definitely miss a straight display without rounded edges - and I have to say that IMAO an edge display (in the current form) provides a bad UX, is impractical and not only it doesn´t provide any extra value, but it much more creates extra work.
My best example: A lot of times where I want to use the smart select feature, the pen just slides to the end of the display´s edge as the rounded glass makes it to do so. this is super annoying.
The edge display is a nice gimmick on the S (e.g. S9 & S10) devices, but when it comes to the NOTE series, I´d very much prefer an even display again. As long as you have a tool with a fine tip, a rounded surface is just a bad interface design decision.
I´m interested in your opinion! What do you guys think about this? Anyone out there sharing my experiences or am I the only one shouting out "GODDAMMIT" several times a week?
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It doesn't bother me so much on the note since the curve is much more subtle than on the s series and the area of screen that actually slopes over the curve is a great deal less. It doesn't bother me personally and I really like the look of it so I deal with what very small frustration it causes.
I've always hated this edge crap. It's useless and ugly. And that pen issue is a major one for me. It is so annoying that I've decided not to buy any other note (or any phone for that matter) that has this useless edge.
I completely agree with OP's opinion
Also, it is a pain in the a** for the protection of the screen. The edge gimmick is completely unnecessary in the Note line
I agree too but maybe next version will be concave !:cyclops::cyclops:
t-shock said:
I completely agree with OP's opinion
Also, it is a pain in the a** for the protection of the screen. The edge gimmick is completely unnecessary in the Note line
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Screen protectors are a nightmare on curved screens.
Doesnt bother me to much except for what K-alz stated, trying to get a good screen protector sucks. Then once you find a protector your case pushes it off.
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Yup!
The pack of quality screen protectors outweighs the S-Pen slipping off of the side of the screen.
The Note 9 is incredibly awesome, the stupid curved screen aside.
Curved phone screens started as a gimmick/brand recognition thing and stayed for aesthetic purposes. They also make the phones look a bit less candy bar-ish (due to tall aspect ratios these days).
Other than that, there are no pros at all. It just ruins user experience in general.
Guess they heard everyone's complaints - b/c the Note 10 lite is basically a Note 9 with a flat screen :good: