Hello Everyone,
I have been unable to find this information anywhere so I thought if anyone knows this would be a good spot for it. So a quick back story, my turbo took a dip in a hot tub for about 5 minutes. I put it in rice as quick as I could (about an hour) long story short it was completely dead unresponsive. I ended up doing a bunch of research and buying an ultrasonic cleaner, taking it apart and cleaning it soaking in 99% isopropyl. I did that several times and each time more functionality returned. At this point everything works perfectly other than wifi and bluetooth (presumably on the same chip). They are both permanently grayed out and cannot be turned on. I would like to know where physically the problem is before attempting anything further.
So can anyone point out the wifi, bluetooth and antenna for each on these pictures? I tried to post in pictures but it seems I cannot because I am a new user. I think you can copy and paste these into browser though or maybe someone else can post one in for reference. The first image is the back of the screen as well as the little cover that goes over the battery. The second is the motherboard.
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Oh and while Im at it does anyone think there could be a software issue resulting from water damage like would I need to reflash some drivers or something?
All help is greatly appreciated!
Im going to try contacting motorola and ill update post if I have any luck
You should try flashing the software using rsd and doing a factory reset! Doubt Motorola will be of any help cuz u void the warranty when u take open ur phone and I don't think water damage comes under warranty!
Are you sure there is reason to believe this could be software related? I just finished rooting and getting everything set up, itd be a shame to start over.
Motorola was no help of course said its top secret. Is there no one out there with the electrical engineering or phone repair background to tell where the chip is from those pictures?
Nobody will know from those pictures - all of the IC's are hidden under the metal shields. Your best bet is to check out the FCC filing pictures of the phone, there should be some with the shields removed. If you can read any of the #'s start googling them.
Or find someone else who has taken high-res pictures with the shields removed, chances are they are out there.
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Greetings,
I recently dropped my xda and it would no longer power on, it seemed completely dead. Assuming it was a "connection" problem with the power to battery pins, I opened it up to see if I could see any obvious problem. During my poking and messing about (with tools which were not really suitable) I inadvertently damaged the small ribbon cables on the right hand side .
I took the unit to a laptop repair specialist but he was unable to fix it, he said he could not find replacement cables/plugs that would fit. Do you know of where I could obtain such cables, or can you recommend someone who would be capable of carrying out repairs?
I would really appreciate your advice, I'm lost without use of the xda. Yes, I did regular backups to the storage card, the last one being only a day or two before the accident.
I look forward to hearing from someone, hopefully with some positive news!
Many thanks,
Mikeyg
Hello gentlemen! I would like to hear your opinion about my problem, hopefully there is a good soul outhere that knows how to help me. A couple nights ago I was at the club where an asrsehole bouncer knocked my phone out of my hands while chasing some crackhead. By the time I picked up my x1 those three guards were gone. My device fell onto carpeted area and battery cover came off taking the battery with it. THe device does not have any visible physical damage, but when I try to turn it on, I only receive one vibration but nothing happens afterwards. Tried everything (soft/hard reset), it is not recognised by any pc, and it wouldn't flash a single LED just that one vibration. I'd send it to SE for repair but I have HardSPL on it and I'm unable to flash it in this condition. The boot loader isn't coming up either.... Please help me find a solution, i searched these forums but haven't met a single similar problem !!!!
Warranty would not cover dropping the phone anyway, so what's the problem ? Send it to the SE, you will just have to pay something. In case they change whole board, it's gonna be a lot.
Hmm, I just took it apart and cleaned it from inside. Noticed there is a little button cell battery next to optical joystick on the front piece.
-Is it similar to CMOS/RTC backup, does it perform the same thing in X1 as if it was a PC?
-What would happen if I temporarily disconnected it from a circuit would the device lose it's HardSPL?
Can anyone please tell me what it does for Xperia?
Ihh, why on earth did you take it apart by yourself?
If there were NO visible damages on the phone the warranty should have kicked in ... even though it says that it doesn't cover falls. If there are no visible marks on the phone, it's really really hard to prove that the device actually fell.
In anyway you should have sent it to SE.
And to answer your question ... i think the small battery is indeed what powers the flash memory when the battery empty or missing. Disconnecting it would probably have the same results as a hard reset...I doubt that the HARD-SPL would be erased.
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Ihh, why on earth did you take it apart by yourself?
If there were NO visible damages on the phone the warranty should have kicked in ... even though it says that it doesn't cover falls. If there are no visible marks on the phone, it's really really hard to prove that the device actually fell.
In anyway you should have sent it to SE.
And to answer your question ... i think the small battery is indeed what powers the flash memory when the battery empty or missing. Disconnecting it would probably have the same results as a hard reset...I doubt that the HARD-SPL would be erased.
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yea how would it get erased if u took all batteries out.
Also you shouldnt have taken it apart that would have voided the warrantly compleatly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just send it back and say it stopped working - i am supprised a fall broke it though - i've dropped mine loads and nout has been damaged :S
but yea send it to SE center
Hi,
I'm having a total nightmare. Over the past few days my handset has been a nightmare. I was out last Saturday, and dropped my phone when it was raining. When I checked the phone it seemed to be OK, but there was some water still on the battery when I woke up and removed the cover on Sunday morning.
The phone seemed to be working OK at the time, but over the week there have been 2 issues.
1. The hardware buttons stop working intermittently. At first, the Call Send and Call End buttons were the wrong way around, but then now they have totally stopped functioning. The volume keys no longer work also. (The standby button on top is fine).
2. Every so often, the phone will go crazy, and its almost as if someone is pressing the buttons. It keeps going into Quick Launch mode and switching to Airplane Mode, and also keeps dialing Voicemail by itself.
I've just ran through the troubleshooting on the T-Mobile site, and it ask "Is the indicator sticker white?" - Mine is red
I am then told I have voided my warranty.
When I got handset, TMOB asked whether I wanted insurance. I said No because I thought I had it through my bank (I pay like £6 per month for my account and one of the advantanges you can choose is mobile phone insurance)
For this reason, I declined to take out the T-Mobile insurance.
This evening, Ive checked my banks insurance page on the website and in the small print is states:
Phones which have a primary use for the making and receiving of telephone calls, SMS text messages and data. We do not cover PDA type devices. Please see the definition of mobile phone/phone in section B of the Policy Document. If you are unsure as to whether your handset can be covered please contact us
Section B:
Mobile Phone/Phone
Your handset and SIM card specifically identified by the IMEI number and mobile phone number. The handset must be your property or responsibility. Your SIM card will not be covered unless it was inserted into the SIM card slot of the phone at the time of the incident.
The handset must be a hand-held electronic device for which its main use is for the making and receiving of telephone calls, SMS text messages and data. We do not cover devices which have Windows Mobile®, Symbian OSTM, or Palm® operating systems or a similar PDA type of interface, whose primary function is of a business nature. The cover of handsets will be at our discretion, and if you are unsure as to whether your handset can be covered please contact us.
Now, its too late to take out the T-Mobile insurance and I am stuck with a handset which doesnt work.
I am fully aware this is my own stupid fault.
I've been trying to check repair websites, but they seem to claim with Water Damage, there is no certainty that they will be able to fix the device, and it might come back in a worse state than it was sent in.
Any advice that could be offered would be greatly appreciated.
Does anyone know whether you can pay HTC directly to repair your device? I've tried calling but they are now closed.
HTC does service but they are slow.
Try putting the phone in a zip lock with some white rice, this will dry it out completely.
You have probably damaged the electronics due to using it when it was wet, however I would remove the battery and try to dry it as best you can before putting power back to the unit.
once heard that you can get the red dot back to white with some bleach.
Never tried it though
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once heard that you can get the red dot back to white with some bleach.
Never tried it though
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I heard HTC sued some people for trying that trick. so be careful!
As far as rain/water damage goes...the rice bag trick has worked for me in the past, as well as taking the phone apart and cleaning all the contacts, etc with alcohol.
My phone is in for repair (thankfully under warranty) at the moment, so i'm half feeling your pain.
Good luck!
Thanks Drag-on.
Thanks for the advise guys, will let you know how I get on
If it can start and operate, the device is probably able to be safe. At this moment, the moisture in the electronic board is shorting out. I would start with using a hair drier to dry out the moisture. Hot air it a few minutes and cycle this a few times within an hour should have the moisture removed. Hopefully, there are no residue left behind by the water that is 'conductive'.
For proper cleaning, I think the best is use either alcohol swaps or contact cleaner aerosol to clean the PCB boards, buttons.
Hope it will recover.
my topaz is having similar problems as mentioned by the OP but it didn't get wet ever. however the humidity has been on the higher side for last 2-3 weeks at this place, could that be the reason for this misbehaviour? the h/w keys (except for power button) and volume keys are not working at all as i make this post
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my topaz is having similar problems as mentioned by the OP but it didn't get wet ever. however the humidity has been on the higher side for last 2-3 weeks at this place, could that be the reason for this misbehaviour? the h/w keys (except for power button) and volume keys are not working at all as i make this post
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Have you tried placing in a bag of rice to draw the moisture out?
Not sure if humidity could cause this but it's worth a try.
Otherwise I would assume worn contact points.
i dont have any idea about "bag of rice" yet so didnt try. but i kept it shut down for the whole night and buttons are working right now. it could def be the moisture problem.
PS: so while trying out this 'bag of rice' thing, should i disassemble the phone first or just i've to keep it as such? and as i said it never got wet, would it be better to just use a hair dryer?
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i dont have any idea about "bag of rice" yet so didnt try. but i kept it shut down for the whole night and buttons are working right now. it could def be the moisture problem.
PS: so while trying out this 'bag of rice' thing, should i disassemble the phone first or just i've to keep it as such? and as i said it never got wet, would it be better to just use a hair dryer?
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The hair dryer can push the moisture around and cause more damage. Plus if its on heat, that too can damage something.
For the rice, just get a zip lock bag, put the rice in it then place the phone on top and seal the bag. No need to disassemble. The rice will draw the moisture out. I think a few hours would be suficient.
Glad you got it working again.
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The hair dryer can push the moisture around and cause more damage. Plus if its on heat, that too can damage something.
For the rice, just get a zip lock bag, put the rice in it then place the phone on top and seal the bag. No need to disassemble. The rice will draw the moisture out. I think a few hours would be suficient.
Glad you got it working again.
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thanks Bruce, i'll try the Rice method and till then i'll just keep it turned off with no battery inside.
Just a short update about using rice, obviously you will use uncooked rice. Also, if you have or can find the vacumn bags, put the rice and phone and battery in the bag and get as much air out as you. The vacumn will help in pulling the moisture out of the device, and of course the rice absorbs the moisture. I used this trick on a Moto Razr that had been completely under water while on. Powered down, removed battery, rice, phone, battery into ziplock vacumn bag, one day later...perfect condition.
none of the methods mentioned above worked, so i took it to HTC service centre and it turns out that the motherboard has to be replaced which is gonna cost around 160 USD.
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none of the methods mentioned above worked, so i took it to HTC service centre and it turns out that the motherboard has to be replaced which is gonna cost around 160 USD.
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Ouch!, you can get a new phone for that.
Sorry Bro....
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Ouch!, you can get a new phone for that.
Sorry Bro....
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yeah, and my warranty was over just a month ago. so its just unfortunate and my bad luck
Don´t panic
Thats´s ok, my Topaz have felt into a water, LCD haven´t works, SD slot have been destroyed.. I send it for guarantee, and they made it everything ok for free I get new button, new LCD and motherboard for free.. Try to send it
EDIT: woops, warranty ended.. Go, and make grave for your device
I dropped my phone in water and took the battery out to let everything dry. The phone turns on now and seems to work for the most part, but I am having trouble with the internet connection and also my new text messages are not showing up. I can see all of the old ones, though. I wanted to know if anyone knows how to take the phone apart. I've removed the screws, but can't figure out how to take the back off. Any help would be great!
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I dropped my phone in water and took the battery out to let everything dry. The phone turns on now and seems to work for the most part, but I am having trouble with the internet connection and also my new text messages are not showing up. I can see all of the old ones, though. I wanted to know if anyone knows how to take the phone apart. I've removed the screws, but can't figure out how to take the back off. Any help would be great!
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im away from home at the moment but I haven't got a clue, in saying that, isn't the galaxy S2 almost identical? maybe worth looking in to,
im also guessing that its probably just a case of slipping a very thin piece of hard plastic down the edge unclipping the plastic clips
however, in saying all that, i seriously doubt its anything to do with water damage. your radio will either work or wont work, you can either get calls, internet and sms/mms or you cant,l water is very unlikely to effect the radio "some" of the time, if the device is dried out its highly unlikely that opening it up will make any difference other than the fact you will have a broken phone that now looks like you've opened it up as well.
first things first, id format the thing and see if that works, its not beyond reason to suggest that perhaps the phone was doing something important before it took up scuba diving and perhaps it didn't get to finish it meaning corrupt files etc, if it doesn't, you could leave it in a warm dry environment for a day or so to make sure it is completely dry, if its still buggered you'll be pretty much screwed, there is minimal user serviceable parts inside, esp to do with the radio.
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I dropped my phone in water and took the battery out to let everything dry. The phone turns on now and seems to work for the most part, but I am having trouble with the internet connection and also my new text messages are not showing up. I can see all of the old ones, though. I wanted to know if anyone knows how to take the phone apart. I've removed the screws, but can't figure out how to take the back off. Any help would be great!
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I take my focus s apart almost weekly when I'm bored watching tv haha. Once you have all the screws removed, slide your finger nail between the glass of the screen and the bezel and pull away from the screen. The whole back side is snapped onto the screen and internal components. While applying pressure to the back with the battery removed helps a lot. Just note that the speaker will stay inside the plastic backing and can be popped out if needed. From what I'm willing to try, I've removed both cameras, antenna, and a few other things I forget. Overall it comes apart really easy and goes together just as easy. Good luck!
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I dropped my phone in water and took the battery out to let everything dry. The phone turns on now and seems to work for the most part, but I am having trouble with the internet connection and also my new text messages are not showing up. I can see all of the old ones, though. I wanted to know if anyone knows how to take the phone apart. I've removed the screws, but can't figure out how to take the back off. Any help would be great!
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Hi
Recently i connected my Focus S a data cable damaged and made me a curt circuit in the power adapter, which it broke down the device.
The repair was very simple and the device is simple to open.
This is what i replaced:
http://viewitem.eim.ebay.pt/New-Usb...Samsung-i937-w-Tracking-Num/350588022212/item
See the photos you see how to disassemble the device.
My nexus 6 falled from my hand to a small puddle of rainwater like for 15-25 seconds, i picked off it then i saw that all works normally i dried it with my shirt and, saved it in to my pocket after a few minutes i wanted to do a phone call but saw that the screen were all black and showing some lines i went to my house and tried some times to turn it on but anything worked, then i left it in a container with rice for 24 hours today i tried to turn it on but it is not working , when i push the On button it just show some lines with a very light green/yellow background and the green notification Led is turned on. What i can do? what is happening to my nexus?i need to buy a new screen? is there another way to save my phone?
Any suggestion?
Hope someone could help me
i had taken some photos but i can't post it due to the restrictions of a minimum of 10 post in the forum but there is an album with two photos of the nexus in my profile.
It could be the screen. Mainboard is also a possibility here. Someone is going to have to look at it and see what's wrong.
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It could be the screen. Mainboard is also a possibility here. Someone is going to have to look at it and see what's wrong.
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Thank you so much for answering, by the way i have posted some images of the phone in an album in my profile.
Rule of thumb with possible water damage is NOT to turn the phone on until it is dry. By turning on the Nexus, you guaranteed yourself a repair bill at best, or having to purchase a new phone at worst. Looking at the pics in your profile, your problem is on the motherboard. Someone will have to take the device apart and look at it to be sure, but you're likely looking at a motherboard replacement.
If you have a warranty, try using it.
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Rule of thumb with possible water damage is NOT to turn the phone on until it is dry. By turning on the Nexus, you guaranteed yourself a repair bill at best, or having to purchase a new phone at worst. Looking at the pics in your profile, your problem is on the motherboard. Someone will have to take the device apart and look at it to be sure, but you're likely looking at a motherboard replacement.
If you have a warranty, try using it.
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[UPDATE] First i opened the nexus and disconected the battery from the phone dried competely with a towel then i left the phone for half an hour in a warm place then i dried it a little more with a heat gun , after that i left it in a bag of rice for two days and today i taked out the nexus, conected it to the charger then the green led started to turn on again, left it like for 4 minutes charging and then the nexus suddenly turned on! with all functioning correctly the screen the sim wifi all! , i was so happy and lifted up the smartphone to look at it but then the screen started to show some blurred lines and blue colors and a little bit distorsioned graphic interface in the screen but with all elements in screen.
Now i turned off the nexus
The problem could be the flexor of the screen?
because when i removed the back cover of the nexus with a guitar pick maybe i damaged the flexor or something like that
What i should do?
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What i should do?
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As I've said repeatedly, get someone to look at it. With the symptoms you describe, there could be multiple causes, and only a technician or repair center can determine the actual cause.
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As I've said repeatedly, get someone to look at it. With the symptoms you describe, there could be multiple causes, and only a technician or repair center can determine the actual cause.
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Thank you
Don't get angry
It was the flexor , All works nice but the flash does not work
I will try to repair it
I'm not angry, but I don't like having to repeat myself. Anyway, let us know if you get the flash fixed.