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Since more people already have the Moto X , Im wondering have anyone played with the LG G2.. Im contemplating between the two on which one I should get...
Tough choice. I am going to compare them together on Friday. The moto x is really sweet though.
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LG G2. Everybody here on the Moto X forums will tell you that. We all hate our phones.
I will be there Friday to play also, if not just to get an idea of the next Nexus hardware. I have to say though, the X is the best out of the box experience I have ever had.
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I will be there Friday to play also, if not just to get an idea of the next Nexus hardware. I have to say though, the X is the best out of the box experience I have ever had.
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Im def going to play with the LG G2 as well, and see... I figured I would ask since a lot of people have already got their hands on the Moto X for more than a week...
Don't sweat it. Some people around here are stressing over root, kind of has the whole Moto X board being mean . Either way, I have a really hard time believing that the LG g2 will be able to outpace this phone. It really sounds crazy but in telling you this phone is something else.
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Easy choice for me. I'm done with shiny plastic and really ugly ui
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Don't sweat it. Some people around here are stressing over root, kind of has the whole Moto X board being mean . Either way, I have a really hard time believing that the LG g2 will be able to outpace this phone. It really sounds crazy but in telling you this phone is something else.
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Do you or anyone have an opinion regarding the Moto X as a device to get over the HTC One or Note 2?
Depends what you want. Basically stock Android, great speed, good form factor = Moto X. You want higher specs for some reason, you enjoy the G2's design with buttons on the back, and the size of the device, get the G2.
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Do you or anyone have an opinion regarding the Moto X as a device to get over the HTC One or Note 2?
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The note, in my opinion is just too big, and I hate touchwiz. The one is a nice phone, the Google Edition is way better in my opinion. I like AOSP, not a fan of skinning, at all. The MOTOROLA X is really a great phone straight out of the box.
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Depends what you want. Basically stock Android, great speed, good form factor = Moto X. You want higher specs for some reason, you enjoy the G2's design with buttons on the back, and the size of the device, get the G2.
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I would like to give the Moto X a try because of the stock look and that the size is not too big or small. The specs do open up my eyes on the G2 and if I decide on that I could always switch to a different launcher. This is a tough decision.
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The note, in my opinion is just too big, and I hate touchwiz. The one is a nice phone, the Google Edition is way better in my opinion. I like AOSP, not a fan of skinning, at all. The MOTOROLA X is really a great phone straight out of the box.
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I utilize the Note for business because, the S-Pen allows me to do some things when I'm out recruiting. But, I've used the iPhone 5 at times as my daily driver and want to switch totally to android.
I'd check out more reviews of the G2 then. Personally, I'm not sure what higher specs bring, which is the point of the Moto X. Other high spec phones provide nothing substantially better. Some lag even right out of the box, sacrifice battery life, or provide no real higher terms of performance in terms of gaming.
These aren't actual computers, despite what they do. People aren't running AutoCAD and need an i7 processor. Why these high specs other than ego boosts, I don't know. I'd maybe assess WHY you want the G2's specs. What purpose are they actually serving you? The Moto X and its "inferior" specs runs 100% smooth out of the box, has high gaming performance, and great battery life.
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I'd check out more reviews of the G2 then. Personally, I'm not sure what higher specs bring, which is the point of the Moto X. Other high spec phones provide nothing substantially better. Some lag even right out of the box, sacrifice battery life, or provide no real higher terms of performance in terms of gaming.
These aren't actual computers, despite what they do. People aren't running AutoCAD and need an i7 processor. Why these high specs other than ego boosts, I don't know. I'd maybe assess WHY you want the G2's specs. What purpose are they actually serving you? The Moto X and its "inferior" specs runs 100% smooth out of the box, has high gaming performance, and great battery life.
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I'm just thinking it will allow me to run my apps more efficiently and quicker. I've been using iOS (iPhone 5) as my daily driver and the Note 2 for business because I'm a coach. I want to move to android totally and from what your saying the Moto X will be the way to go.
I've had it for 1 week today, and it's been faster than I expected. I'm coming from a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 and this is light years better. Stock S3, Touchwiz was too annoying for me. Pulling down the notification bar and having the quick toggles scroll each time (thanks!), to just the useless features, it was annoying. I installed different ROMs, which I guess is fine, but eventually they'd need to be updated. That's more time I have to take to back things up, wipe everything, flash, and restore. I might be nitpicking, but it's still an annoyance. Not to mention that many of these ROMs have glitches, no matter how popular they are: AOSP camera problems, GPS locking issues, etc.
I've had 0 problems with the Moto X after 1 week. The screen PPI is the same as the S3, but looks way better since it's not pentile. To me, it seems not only brighter and more vivid, but just less "blah." I much prefer Android's customization over iOS, but that's a personal preference. Maybe check out a local store to play with the Moto X. Doesn't have to be your carrier, since I'm not sure if VZW stores have it in yet, but AT&T sure does.
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I'd check out more reviews of the G2 then. Personally, I'm not sure what higher specs bring, which is the point of the Moto X. Other high spec phones provide nothing substantially better. Some lag even right out of the box, sacrifice battery life, or provide no real higher terms of performance in terms of gaming.
These aren't actual computers, despite what they do. People aren't running AutoCAD and need an i7 processor. Why these high specs other than ego boosts, I don't know. I'd maybe assess WHY you want the G2's specs. What purpose are they actually serving you? The Moto X and its "inferior" specs runs 100% smooth out of the box, has high gaming performance, and great battery life.
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Android phones have "better" specs than any other OS because it lacks optimization. I'm not saying Android is bad but the more platforms you run a OS on the more raw power you need to push it. With all these different resolutions, cpu, gpu, ram ect it makes it impossible to optimize beyond a certain point. That's why iPhone, blackberry, and Windows phone all run so smooth.... All the phones that run their OSs have almost identical specs. Now the Moto X is more optimized so can run amazing with lower specs which is awesome, but the downside is you could possibly wait a lot longer for any updates because of all the special things going on behind the scenes that they need to tweak from the AOSP.
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I'm definitely going to check it out because I think it's time to step away from iOS. It may take getting use to, but I'm sure I'll managing. Your info has been very helpful. I do a lot of group texting to my players. Is that available in the stock app?
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I'm learning some new things here, but as I stated before I will definitely go into Verizon today and check out the Moto X.
It is, just used it last night
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I'm just thinking it will allow me to run my apps more efficiently and quicker. I've been using iOS (iPhone 5) as my daily driver and the Note 2 for business because I'm a coach. I want to move to android totally and from what your saying the Moto X will be the way to go.
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if you look at reviews of the X vs htc one gs4 or other phones the x runs apps often faster. As many have said previously, specs aren't the big deciding faster on whether a phone runs faster with apps or many things.
here is a short youtube video showing benchmark of HTC one and then running apps comparison. Both phones are bery similar even though HTC one has far superior specs and benchmarks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmU7YKoC5Is
Why on earth would you want the buttons on the back of your phone (G2)? I don't understand how that idea even left the boardroom.
Well, I finally went and played with the LG G2 and I think I will go with the Moto X if and when verizon comes out with the 32gb...
My reasons:
1. Its way to much to change on the LG G2 once you root it
a.bloatware, notification menu,buttons that does the same thing that comes stock with the phone,the buttons are def awkward on the back
a.Moto X comes pretty much perfect.
2. Verizon murdered this device with bloat over 10
3. Camera on the Moto X is inferrior but geez over 85% of cell phone users arent professional photographers
4. Every LG G2 is different as well, especially the verizon version which tells me the updates will not come in a timely manner(opinion not fact)
According to CNN Money the Moto X is one of the best android phone..
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According to CNN Money the Moto X is one of the best android phone..
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Yes it is. Some other website called it the best android of 2013.
I sadly disagree. Just got mine and am pretty disappointed with it compared to Nexus 5. I like the Active Notifications and "always on" aspect of it, but the rest of the phone feels like a compromise.
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I sadly disagree. Just got mine and am pretty disappointed with it compared to Nexus 5. I like the Active Notifications and "always on" aspect of it, but the rest of the phone feels like a compromise.
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I'm happy and contented with my moto x phone love the the dual-core main CPU saves battery life since it is lower-powered than other devices, but is still more than capable of multi-tasking and running the most intensive Android apps and resource-intensive games.
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Yes it is. Some other website called it the best android of 2013.
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Not the best but probably one of the best android of 2013..
I'd agree with that. I may have gone nexus 5 if it were vzw but I love my Moto and ain't looking back. My roomie just broke his work phone and got it replaced with one and loves it as well. Specs seem to be just fine nothing lags and I love the active notifications. The look and feel of the phone is wonderful
Its one of the smoothest android experiences in a body thats probably the most comfortable to hold out of all the modern android handsets. but yea between the great battery life, customizability and always on/active notifications its one of the best if not the best android phone out there. really the only compromise is the somewhat mid range cam. But even the cam has had some pretty major improvements since release.
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I sadly disagree. Just got mine and am pretty disappointed with it compared to Nexus 5. I like the Active Notifications and "always on" aspect of it, but the rest of the phone feels like a compromise.
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Wow, I feel the exact opposite. I have both phones, and use them both the same amount, and feel like the only part of the N5 that isn't a compromise is the *size* of the screen (the screen itself is the biggest compromise, IMO). I think the Moto X outshines it in every other way. The N5 feels slapped together to meet a price point, yet the X is a highly refined experience, inside and out. Considering I've also owned the HTC One and the GS4, I can safely say the Moto X is hands down the best smartphone of 2013, and all time pretty much.
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Wow, I feel the exact opposite. I have both phones, and use them both the same amount, and feel like the only part of the N5 that isn't a compromise is the *size* of the screen (the screen itself is the biggest compromise, IMO). I think the Moto X outshines it in every other way. The N5 feels slapped together to meet a price point, yet the X is a highly refined experience, inside and out. Considering I've also owned the HTC One and the GS4, I can safely say the Moto X is hands down the best smartphone of 2013, and all time pretty much.
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Wow, lol... I've also had the HTC One, S4, and currently a Note 3 too. I guess it's safe to say, to each his own! I'm glad you're happy with the Moto X. I guess it just wasn't for me.
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Wow, lol... I've also had the HTC One, S4, and currently a Note 3 too. I guess it's safe to say, to each his own! I'm glad you're happy with the Moto X. I guess it just wasn't for me.
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I had the G2 and the Note 3. If I had to rank them in terms of which one I like the most overall I'd say:
1. Moto X
2. G2 (close 2nd)
3. Note 3 - Don't miss this phone at all.
Like you said, to each their own. :good:
I switched from an S3. I like everything about the MX better than S3. The screen looks so much better, the size is perfect for me (I'm 5'6" and have relatively small hands), and i love all of the usable features Moto has put into it, as opposed to dumbass "motion" features from Samsung. (No, I don't want to wave my phone around to change homescreens while moving widgets. And why do I have to do the stupid "Magician wave" to take a screenshot. pwr + vol dn is all I need)
My wife says it looks like a toy phone and couldn't understand why I went to a smaller screen (she has an S3 as well).
Hey Guys,
Just wanted your advice on what phone I should get next. I Love my moto x Dev ed, its the best phone I ever had but its time for an upgrade.
One of the things I loved about it most is the size. Although the new moto x improved on a lot of stuff I don't like how much bigger it is. Its really hard to find a good/better phone in the same size range. Any suggestions? Anyone who upgraded to something else?
I know the main to contenders are galaxy alpha and sony xperia z3c. However, with the samsung I don't want to deal with touchwiz.. (although i suppose I could root and put cm or a custom rom?) . I really like the z3c and it has great reviews BUT the forums have a lot of people complaining about the glass back spontaneously cracking. Also hearing about sony leaving the smartphone market has me worries about future support and updates.
With either of these and others I will also miss the moto x features like active display and moto voice.. Not to mention, I've had a great experience with motorola customer service and warranty replacements/RMA and I'm not confident about getting the same from sony if the glass cracks or something happens.
Which leans me back toward moto.. but I don't want to go bigger. I was also considering the saygus V2. But don't know about their support, updates, and real hands on use reviews..Not to mention its not cheap haha.
So you see my dilemna? I think I might just have to compromise and go with the new moto x and just get used to the size. Thoughts?
I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..
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I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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motorola should keep't the size of moto x and just upgrade hardware inside. like iphone 4/4s 5/5s.
that is the big problem of android. you see every new phone different design. even it is great design, they upgrade it with ****.
why i love my moto x and dont want upgrade?
- every possible rom is available, i cant use android without root
- good build quality, after 1 year of use, no scratches on screen (never used any screen protection or case)
- battery is enough for me for all possible scenarios.
- 2 port usb charger
- clean system as possible (even though I am a big fan of htc sense)
- never had any problem openin a webpage (yes that is another reason why people buy smartphones )
- speaker and audio codec quality
- useful functions without any gimmick
and size, use it without dropping it. yes this is a good feel
i'm watching new smartphones but none of them exciting me (Z3 Compact, Galaxy Alpha, X 2014)
thanks to moto x i have first time not changed my android phone more than 1 year. (using android since g1) that is biggest reason why i love moto x 2013 :good:
I too am starting to look for a replacement for my XT1060. I love it, but will need something new soon. I was very hopeful for the Nexus 6, but it absolutely too big. The Moto X 2014 looks nice but after getting a Moto Maker 2013 edition and using the Chinese Middleman to unlock the bootloader, and Verizon not offering the Pure edition, it's a no go. Droid Turbo was nice in hand, but it has little hope of rooting or bootloader unlocks (seems to be little demand), and it didn't seem as smooth as the Nexus 6 that my GF has. I held an HTC One M8 the other day and some of the developments for the M9 look nice, but I've never had an HTC device. I would need to be able to root/unlock and get as close to pure Android like the Moto X as possible. It is bigger than the Moto X 2013, but not as big as the Nexus 6.
I have a Nexus 7 2013, so I don't really need a big phone. I've used my GF's N6 a few times and it is just awkward as a phone. Too big for one hand and almost too small for two. Part of it is probably me forcing myself to dislike it so I don't cave and just go buy one.
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Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..
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Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.
I'm getting a free upgrade/replacement to moto x 2014 under warranty from motorola. I'm deciding if I should just keep it since they're giving me it, or sell it and get something else. Maybe I'll just buy a 2013 dev ed again. I really had no complaints about it.. It wasn't slow or laggy or anything really.. or a nexus 5.. hmm.
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Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.
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Thanks, I was actually looking at size comparisons earlier. The z3c is actually the same or even barely smaller than 2013 x actually. and alpha is close as well. I might just take the plunge for the xperia z3c and be careful with it...
I'd buy a Galaxy Alpha if verizon had it. Actually verizon has no new phones that are as small as the 1st Gen moto X, since they also didn't get the Xperia Z3 compact.
Samsung is not my favorite, but I'm really hoping someone this year addresses this with a smaller phone with excellent build quality and some updated specs - preferably either Motorola or HTC. Although, I guess I can survive with my 1st Gen moto X for another year. Once Lollipop rolls out for moto x 1st gen maybe I won't care as much =)
I keep hoping that Moto will add something that's between 4.7" and 5" to the lineup that still has Active Display and Moto Voice. Doesn't have to have Moto Maker, doesn't have to have top of the line specs (slightly better than the Moto X 2013 would be good). An HD screen would be nice. Obviously AMOLED is a requirement to do the active display. Heck, I'd even take no LTE. Price point between the Moto X and the Moto G would be fine.
I doubt this would happen as the phone would compete directly with the Moto G 2014, but I can hope.
Since none of the current small handset options seem worthwhile, I'm thinking I may just stick with the moto x 2013 for now and wait to see what comes out in the next few months. Hopefully we'll have a good alternative soon. In the mean time this should hold out. And I agree, won't feel the need as much once we get lollipop.
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me too
Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice
I'm sticking with my Moto X, although the Nexus 6 gets more and more tempting. I find myself missing my Note 2 for its screen size, but not much else.
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Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice
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Thanks! When the new one first came out there was also a huge thread with many people disappointed by the larger size. I highly doubt they would go backwards/smaller now though..
I love this phone but I too am itching to move on. I have told myself I'm only buying a phone that launches with lollipop ? so far I haven't seen anything.
I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!
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I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!
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Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..
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Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..
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Yeah a bit of a step back but the 2014 X was way too big, the z3c was nice but screen sensitivity was too high, it would register these Phantom tap or slides. Drove me nuts. The charging part also sucked with the little cover. I had the magnetic charger but darn thing never stayed on properly if I touched phone at all. 4.7 screens are sweet spot. I do hope someone comes out with a suitable replacement but in meantime the 2013 X is best out there for me.
Personally I hate the route phone manufacturers are taking with 5+ inch screens. Soon the word mobile will lose it's defined meaning. It's OK if you have a carry bag but if you use your pocket it becomes uncomfortable nor practical or "bonner" like lol.
Moto X 2013 has a 4.7 screen and the smallest body of any other phone with same screen size. A winning combination! Whoever takes the same approach next will get my cash until then Moto X will be the only phone I will use. Anything above 5.2 is just dumb and calling it a mobile is an insult imo.
My thoughts exactly. I can't stand the direction phone manufacturers are moving in. I'm holding on tightly to this phone until another small phone comes out with good specs.
After a very disappointing event (Nexus wise) Google showcased today, I'm leaning toward the X 2014 Pure Edition. I've already made mine on Moto Maker and just waiting to pull the trigger.
I've had every nexus since the N1 but skipped out on the N6 due to its size. Now this year looks like I'm going to skip out again; the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5, the 6p (given has slightly better specs) is still too big for me. Mind you, I'm 6'6" with large hands, however I dont like big phones.. I dont like the fact I have to use finger-gymnastics to navigate the screen.
Anyways, given the stouter (sp?, word? lol) body of the X and its 5.2 display, it feels amazing. Quite perfect, actually... Reminds me of the G3; shorter body but housed a 5.5.. Amazing. And I really like the design of the moto x/n6 as well. minimal bezel, attractive, etc.
Given now this phone is a year old, would you still buy it today? I just want a 'new' device (the n5 has been great, treated me very nicely still runs perfect running 6.0 now), and I've always wanted to make my own moto x (always been a moto fan) but given what i do to phones and how i use them, the nexus always took my money. Since moto is pure Android out of the box, I think I can manage going away from a nexus this year.
Since the Moto Pure (2015) is too big, I've decided to maybe jump to the 2014 until next years moto or nexus..
Thoughts?
I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.
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I completely agree on everything you said.. Well put.. You and I think a lot alike.. However, (lol) the only difference with me is that yes, I consider myself a tech enthusiast, but I dont necessarily itch for the latest and greatest. Because sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest (for my uses anyway). I still consider my Nexus 5 to be at the top of the list compared to devices today... Most of that 'top of the list' title is due to pure android of course. Nothing beats that experience. Yeah, specs arent "great" and the average user who sees the Nexus' specs on paper wont give the device the light day, but it still out performs most if not all devices today and I've been perfectly content with its specs. But gah, I've been a big fan of the design Moto has instilled in their phones, and that in itself is a big attraction to me.. I sometimes wish the n5 was a tad bigger with less bezel, and honestly, the moto x 2014 fits the bill perfectly.
Hahaha that's funny you say that.. I have buddies all the time trying to get the "latest and greatest" top tier phone with the best of everything but continue getting let down when my 2 year old phone runs circles around their bloated and skinned devices. So to have my buddies chug on a beer and gloat about their high end devices, im sitting over here thinking, "thats cute".. User experience means more to me than specs to an extent... Just like you said, once time passes, those specs become less and less relevant and all you have left is user experience. I'd take a phone with lesser specs and amazing user experience than grab a device with high end everything but cant keep up with what im doing. Thats where our beloved Nexus and Moto X's come to play.
So thank you for your input! I agree on the Pure Edition 100% :good:
surrealjam said:
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Didnt sound negative at all, sir! This is just good discussion.
You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the design. Its such a good looking device. And to me, thats why i like it over the 5x. IMO the 5x isnt so attractive. Moto x wins on that one. The design of the phone really makes my phone buying hard. Every Nexus so far has been good looking imo except these recent ones. I'm picky lol.
Ok, I might have stated my argument incorrectly.. Lets try this, "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5 that is relevant to my uses"
- Larger battery? Sure does. However I was/am still getting 4-5 hours SOT on medium-heavy usage. So battery has never really been an issue for me.
- New processor. Yes, this is the only thing that attracts me.
- Better Camera? Sure. A lot better actually. But I was/am taking amazing photos with n5 camera now. I can link you to my instagram if need be lol (The moto X has a better camera than my n5 so ill be content). Yes, I would LOVE the 1.55 pixel, but its not the deciding factor when i look for a new phone.
Fingerprint scanner? Irrelevant for me. I couldnt care less for it. Now, put that fingerprint scanner on the power button (like the z5) then youll have my attention.
So yes, the 5x has more to offer than the moto, but the moto is an upgrade (kinda) from my n5.. The deciding factor for me is the design tbh.. I think the 5x doesnt look very good. Its as damn near the same size and everything of the z3, only the 5x being a tad taller. While the Moto houses the same screen size (5.2), is a lot shorter, has minimal bezel, and just looks and feels better.
Hope that clears some stuff up
I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker
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I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
Incredible_Culp said:
sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest
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Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.
Flipz77 said:
Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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I have a moto x2014 as well but I barely see 2:30 hrs of SOT ....I'm running stock 5.1
I would have answered yes until today's Motorola announcement that carrier versions of the Moto X 2014 will not be upgraded to Android 6.0
That's the carriers fault though isn't it?
Probably be able to get CM I'm sure.
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N01tra said:
I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker
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I can definitely see why you say that.. I concur
Flipz77 said:
Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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that signature is hilarious -- i dont game, so i have no worries on that
rapperman said:
Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.
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I can see why you say that.. makes sense.. and come to think of it, youre right.. Even though our beloved nexus devices are the creme of the crop (to some people), its lacks certain things that i think would be nice to have.. small things nonetheless. slightly better camera, etc.. But i know that our nexus devices arent made to be top tier, so its understandable and i accept it.
but going off what you say, "Moto seems to understand the needs of the inbetweener". I concur. They make a device thats pure android, add better than average features (but not over the top that drives up the price), and still make it reasonably priced. i like that, and this thread is making my decision to pull the trigger even stronger.. Monday cant come here fast enough.
I've the chance to buy probably BNDS / BNIB units at the same cost as say more recent MT6737M/ Snapdragon 435 even MT6795 units with microsd, 64bit support.
I'm tempted by having the snapdragon 801 at a low cost but is it too late now expecially with the lack of 64bit support or does its raw power still relevant?
What would you do?
Moto X was a great device in its era. Even today I still praise it for the most compact device with a 5,2 inch screen. I can operate it easily with one hand. But,in today's standart,it's an outdated device. You got plenty devices with better specs and prices to choose. The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life. I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4X and comparing both is so pathetic. Battery endurance in Redmi Note 4 is so much better. If Moto X is the device with 4000 mah battery, I think it's still countable. With custom ROM,Moto X is still fast and fluid. I prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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Absolutely......................................not. Look I love my X 2014 but it was a flawed device when it came out and that didn't let it age well. The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison. The lack of fingerprint sensor might not seem like a big deal but until you use it, you don't know what your missing. The phone is still smooth but how long until developers move on. The design in my opinion was still one of the best, a classic for sure. It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.
Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus
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huatz84 said:
prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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Yeah I had hoped that the overall experience is still preferable even taking into account its cons.
huatz84 said:
The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life.
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I'm of the mindset that I can offset this issuee with phone with lots of powerbank choices now.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison.
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This is disappointing -- 1 factor that makes me consider this is (since i had no real life experience with it) -- that the AMOLED screen and camera would still be competent to comparable models.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
...It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.
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DustArma said:
Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus
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OK, if while considering all the above I add the relative context that in my area if available the G5 plus is 200USD, while the Moto X would be 110USD bnew, would that make it more appealing?
I've had mine for 2 years, and still loving it. I bought it in a carrier store for 400 Canadian Dollars. Since I can only buy phones in a store at full retail price, my choices are somewhat limited. I still can't find a "better" phone at $500 CAD. My Moto X 2014 is running the latest Android perfectly with 2GB RAM, and will run Android 8.0 Oreo (custom ROMs). The only consideration is band support, as it may not support the latest and fastest LTE bands used by some carriers nowadays. Also, this phone has NFC, some lower priced new phones may not.
The things I would be looking for in a new phone: longer battery life, latest LTE bands support, and maybe a bigger screen, like 5.5+ inch.
I just got that phone about 3 days ago... It is just amazing..remember.. It was a flagship.. Soft/hdw integratiom are perfect. Even with low battery and 2 gb of ram.. It's more worthy than several mid ranges phone mentioned. Besides, you get plenty of development for at least one more year.. Go for it!