Anyone have any luck getting into diagnostic mode? I am in need of updating the PRL on my phone and I can't get it into diag mode for programming.
datoad said:
Anyone have any luck getting into diagnostic mode? I am in need of updating the PRL on my phone and I can't get it into diag mode for programming.
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There are.. ummm... 6 or 10 different galaxy note 5 models. There are dozens of different carriers. Several dozen different countries.
Answering your question is impossible without more information.
However, "PRL" tends to be a CDMA thing (and one that Verizon is phasing out) - meaning that you're likely using a US Sprint (or less likely, a US Verizon) model... in which case you'd have better luck asking in those particular sections.
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There are.. ummm... 6 or 10 different galaxy note 5 models. There are dozens of different carriers. Several dozen different countries.
Answering your question is impossible without more information.
However, "PRL" tends to be a CDMA thing (and one that Verizon is phasing out) - meaning that you're likely using a US Sprint (or less likely, a US Verizon) model... in which case you'd have better luck asking in those particular sections.
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I understand but am actually using a US Cellular Note 5. Since there is no thread for this model, I posted in the general section. I have gone through every service menu that populates in the Phone Info Samsung app and found a section to put it in download mode but it does not work when I put it in. My computer makes no noise when plugging in the usb or removing it. I read in this thread that I had to enable CP Logging but I can't find that option either.
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I understand but am actually using a US Cellular Note 5.
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US Cellular (comical name when "cell phones" haven't worked on the "cell" or "cellular" concept in decades)... Anyway.. they use CDMA. Most likely, your device is closer related to Sprint or Verizon (both of which use CDMA.)
Have you considered calling up your wireless provider and asking them? Different CDMA carriers tend to use different mechanisms for updating preferred roaming lists. I know with some carriers, they can initiate the PRL update remotely...
I tried but it didn't work. I also called *228 and tried it that way but it failed as well. I'm trying to get this phone to recognize the Verizon Wireless network setup to get on LTE but I can't unless I can manually update the PRL. I am currently running this phone with Verizon but only 3G data..
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I tried but it didn't work. I also called *228 and tried it that way but it failed as well. I'm trying to get this phone to recognize the Verizon Wireless network setup to get on LTE but I can't unless I can manually update the PRL. I am currently running this phone with Verizon but only 3G data..
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So... you have a US Cellular branded Note 5 and you're trying to use it on Verizon's network? Is that something that normally works with USC phones? Do you have a verizon SIM in the device? Is the device sim unlocked? Is this a roaming situation?
To be honest, you'd be much better off giving full information ahead of time instead of making people trying to guess at it. Your first post in this thread gave nearly 0 useful information. Your second suggests that you're using a USC branded device but gave no indication that you're trying to use it on VZW towers. Your third suggests that you are trying to use it with VZW towers, but doesn't say if you are trying to roam or using a VZW SIM, etc. (Note: most carrier branded devices are SIM-locked to that carrier - meaning you can't just use a SIM from another carrier and expect anything to work.)
That being said, you're also bordering an area that I need to back away from due to various professional NDA's. I'm quite sure, however, that others here can help you more (assuming you provide them the info they'd need to help you.)
Take care
Gary
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garyd9 said:
So... you have a US Cellular branded Note 5 and you're trying to use it on Verizon's network? Is that something that normally works with USC phones? Do you have a verizon SIM in the device? Is the device sim unlocked? Is this a roaming situation?
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Yes, I have a US Cellular Note 5 and I am Currently using it on Verizon's Network. I am unsure if this is something that NORMALLY works, but in this case it has worked. I have a Verizon SIM in the device. Apparently, the device is sim unlocked. This is not a roaming situation.
garyd9 said:
To be honest, you'd be much better off giving full information ahead of time instead of making people trying to guess at it. Your first post in this thread gave nearly 0 useful information. Your second suggests that you're using a USC branded device but gave no indication that you're trying to use it on VZW towers. Your third suggests that you are trying to use it with VZW towers, but doesn't say if you are trying to roam or using a VZW SIM, etc. (Note: most carrier branded devices are SIM-locked to that carrier - meaning you can't just use a SIM from another carrier and expect anything to work.)
That being said, you're also bordering an area that I need to back away from due to various professional NDA's. I'm quite sure, however, that others here can help you more (assuming you provide them the info they'd need to help you.)
Take care
Gary
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I don't mean to be blunt, but if you read my first post, I was only asking if anyone with this phone in general, regardless of model, had any luck with getting the device in diagnostic mode. I had stated what I was personally trying to accomplish with getting this particular phone to work as well just in case if anyone was wondering. If I needed to get into more details with the models, I would have gladly provided that information as well. I have read a few posts from people stating that they were able to get US Cellular phones working on Verizon's network but only with 3G Data. I took it upon myself to research the newest iteration of the Note line and found that for the most part they had inter-operable frequency bands. So with that being said, I reached out to the community for help in seeing if this phone was able to be put in diagnostic mode. That is all I had asked. I appreciate your trying to explain the differences within the different carriers technologies, but I already have a pretty good grasp on which carriers use which technologies. Thank You for your help.
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I don't mean to be blunt, but if you read my first post, I was only asking if anyone with this phone in general, regardless of model, had any luck with getting the device in diagnostic mode.
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You are welcome. This is a good example of why people like me tend to avoid helping people like you. First we have to beg and plead to get the information we need to help you, and then when we try to be helpful and suggest that you provide as much information as possible UP FRONT, you get "blunt."
Okay. Fine. I'll answer your question as asked. I'm sure you'll find it very unhelpful, but it's "blunt."
So, your answer: "Yes."
Have a nice day.
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You are welcome. This is a good example of why people like me tend to avoid helping people like you. First we have to beg and plead to get the information we need to help you, and then when we try to be helpful and suggest that you provide as much information as possible UP FRONT, you get "blunt."
Okay. Fine. I'll answer your question as asked. I'm sure you'll find it very unhelpful, but it's "blunt."
So, your answer: "Yes."
Have a nice day.
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I was able to get into diagnostic mode and complete what I needed to complete. Thanks.
What an obnoxious ass. If you didn't want to be helpful, why answer in the first place, except to be a smug jerk ?
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With the recent influx of Droid devices generated by them being handed out to many individuals through Google's developer channels, I imagine I'm not the only one wondering whether or not it would be possible to get service for this device by anyone other than Verizon. I'm hoping that someone can explain to me what it might take to make this possible.
As I understand it, VZW uses both 1900 and 850 while Sprint uses only 1900 with roaming possible on 850. That means the device should be compatible between the two networks from a frequency standpoint. What I'm not sure about is whether any of the software instructions coded into the VZW/Sprint devices are important to the correct operation of the phone on the network, or if they are identical and it only matters which network accepts the device's ESN.
In short:
- Would any software modifications to the device be necessary for appropriate functionality on the Sprint network?
- If so, could those modifications be derived from existing Sprint Android platforms like the Hero/Moment?
I have been given a free Droid, but I have no plan on ever switching to Verizon. It will remain a development only device if I can't modify it to work with my existing Sprint account.
Thanks in advance for any information.
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With the recent influx of Droid devices generated by them being handed out to many individuals through Google's developer channels, I imagine I'm not the only one wondering whether or not it would be possible to get service for this device by anyone other than Verizon. I'm hoping that someone can explain to me what it might take to make this possible.
As I understand it, VZW uses both 1900 and 850 while Sprint uses only 1900 with roaming possible on 850. That means the device should be compatible between the two networks from a frequency standpoint. What I'm not sure about is whether any of the software instructions coded into the VZW/Sprint devices are important to the correct operation of the phone on the network, or if they are identical and it only matters which network accepts the device's ESN.
In short:
- Would any software modifications to the device be necessary for appropriate functionality on the Sprint network?
- If so, could those modifications be derived from existing Sprint Android platforms like the Hero/Moment?
I have been given a free Droid, but I have no plan on ever switching to Verizon. It will remain a development only device if I can't modify it to work with my existing Sprint account.
Thanks in advance for any information.
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the only way to get this to work is via esn swapping !! and that is illegal!! so.... good luck google it!! sprint will not add esns to there network from other carriers !! verizon does is sometimes but sprint will not do it!! sorry are u willing to sell it?
adrianh85 said:
the only way to get this to work is via esn swapping !! and that is illegal!! so.... good luck google it!! sprint will not add esns to there network from other carriers !! verizon does is sometimes but sprint will not do it!! sorry are u willing to sell it?
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Illegal, huh? Good 'ol US; the only country that feels the need to so tightly bind our devices to specific carriers. I vastly prefer the unlocked GSM phone model that Europe operates under. Le sigh.
Thanks for the info. I'm unlikely to sell, as I can find uses even for a device that doesn't have service. I just thought I could kill the proverbial two birds with one stone if I could make it work. C'est la vie.
You're forgetting the fact that there are at least TWO major nationwide GSM carriers in the US.
Japan has better game-shows than the US does, but I'm not going to say, "good ol' US" when complaining about it. But, I wouldn't even complain about it.
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You're forgetting the fact that there are at least TWO major nationwide GSM carriers in the US.
Japan has better game-shows than the US does, but I'm not going to say, "good ol' US" when complaining about it. But, I wouldn't even complain about it.
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I'm not forgetting at all. The difference is that phones here, even for those two carriers, are sold locked rather than unlocked. Many consumers don't even know they have a choice, nor are they aware that their phones can be unlocked. The fact that the phones can be unlocked, and maybe could be used somewhere else in the world (depending on whether or not they support non-US bands), hardly excuses the fact that a tiny number of consumers would ever even realize that, or go through the hoops and hurdles necessary to unlock their phones.
This is a far cry from a market with many options for carriers where phones are sold unlocked and can be easily moved between any available carrier. The Wikipedia listing of mobile network operators in Europe (which I can't post) is quite illuminating when you realize that countries a tiny fraction of our size have a lot more than 2 choices that the phones they purchase, their property, can operate on. I would say cheering that at least we have two choices seems a little silly when the competition level here for carriers is so much weaker than elsewhere in the world.
Let's just say I'm more than a bit frustrated that what I've been gifted is, in the absence of one particular company's service, a brick. The phone belongs to me, yet whether or not I can use it as more than an alarm clock is dictated by only one company. It seems a little silly, and more than a tad bit frustrating. I would have much preferred an unlocked GSM phone; not only would I have two networks, albeit only one with 3G, to choose from, but my international options would have been wonderful.
Ok, so long story short.. there is no way to get the Droid A855 on gsm even if its unlocked? I know I just might be in the wrong forum but I have been searching all freaking day and honestly every site is starting to look the same to me 10:1 I'll prolly just sell the phone back off
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Ok, so long story short.. there is no way to get the Droid A855 on gsm even if its unlocked? I know I just might be in the wrong forum but I have been searching all freaking day and honestly every site is starting to look the same to me 10:1 I'll prolly just sell the phone back off
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No, because the A855 does not have a GSM radio in it. Without the capable hardware, what you want to do is impossible.
In this thread, I would like to gather as much information as possible about transferring Verizon Wireless Service onto a Sprint Branded HTC Hero CDMA (Aka Hero200 & APA6277) with android 2.1 (codename Eclair).
I have already successfully 'rooted' the device....Now I just need a ROM. I cannot find any evidence that a ROM/PRL has been developed for this phone to support Verizon service(Although I believe some people have successfully ported cricket/boost/metroPCS to the Hero200).
I learned that the HTC Hero200 is pretty similar to the HTC Droid Eris, which supports Verizon, but the Eris firmware cannot be installed on the Hero without significant problems. Maybe someone knows of a workaround?
Perhaps we can break down exactly what is required to develop such software and implement the necessary provisioning data into this phone to support Verizon?
Can anyone please help point me in the right direction? Thank you!
even if you get it to work as in pick up their service there is no way they would allow you/ be able to active the phone.
Ok I'm kinda familiar with this as I'm new to sprint from cricket. The rom isn't important. Before you get to deep in to this I would recommend you either go to the Verizon website or call the customer support line and try to register the min on their network. If not then what you have to do MAY be illegal and I'm not sure if I can explain how to do it here. I know I can say what you need to do though. You're gonna have to get a Verizon phone and flash it's serial number to your hero. Remember, this is ONLY if they won't register the phone on their network. Try that first and report back what happens.
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Before you get to deep in to this I would recommend you either go to the Verizon website or call the customer support line and try to register the min on their network. If not then what you have to do MAY be illegal and I'm not sure if I can explain how to do it here.
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If I risk bricking the phone, it's cool... I'm more interested in learning about it, and I want to see if I can successfully transfer carriers.
I actually acquired this Hero200 through a 'friend of a friend' which was passed along as a gift, but I think the original owner lost the phone. I'm guessing they may have notified Sprint the device was 'lost/stolen', thus rendering the ESN number useless on Sprints network (But I'm not exactly sure how this works).
So if the ESN for this phone is 'tainted' or I guess 'blacklisted' on Sprint's network, this means I have to either program a new ESN onto this phone, or use a different carrier, right?
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even if you get it to work as in pick up their service there is no way they would allow you/ be able to active the phone.
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I believe you very likely could be right... But what are the exact components that make a phone worthy of activation on a network?
I would like to learn more about what constitutes a phones' "identity".
Surely there must be a way to alter the Hero200's ESN or other appropriate attributes to be interpreted by a carrier as a "valid" client.
Altering or tampering with a phones esn is also highly illegal
BuTTcHiPs said:
If I risk bricking the phone, it's cool... I'm more interested in learning about it, and I want to see if I can successfully transfer carriers.
I actually acquired this Hero200 through a 'friend of a friend' which was passed along as a gift, but I think the original owner lost the phone. I'm guessing they may have notified Sprint the device was 'lost/stolen', thus rendering the ESN number useless on Sprints network (But I'm not exactly sure how this works).
So if the ESN for this phone is 'tainted' or I guess 'blacklisted' on Sprint's network, this means I have to either program a new ESN onto this phone, or use a different carrier, right?
I believe you very likely could be right... But what are the exact components that make a phone worthy of activation on a network?
I would like to learn more about what constitutes a phones' "identity".
Surely there must be a way to alter the Hero200's ESN or other appropriate attributes to be interpreted by a carrier as a "valid" client.
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Sorry the auto correct put min instead of esn. The only thing your phone needs is the prl for text and voice to work. Data is a little more detailed but easily done. Yes it is illegal and if the phone was reported stolen or missing the only places you're going to get it working is a lower tiered service provider like metro pcs or cricket unless you swap the esn. Again it is illegal and I can't tell you how to do it without violating forum rules.
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abadasstanker69 said:
Sorry the auto correct put min instead of esn. The only thing your phone needs is the prl for text and voice to work. Data is a little more detailed but easily done. Yes it is illegal and if the phone was reported stolen or missing the only places you're going to get it working is a lower tiered service provider like metro pcs or cricket unless you swap the esn. Again it is illegal and I can't tell you how to do it without violating forum rules.
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I wouldnt play with the ESN...why dont you just try to flash an eris rom(it might not run everything)but...activate the phone and flash another rom...(Aosp 0.9.8 is my fav. thanks aosp)
anyway...i am not sure it will work but i think is worth a try than getting into some illegal stuff....
abadasstanker69 said:
Sorry the auto correct put min instead of esn. The only thing your phone needs is the prl for text and voice to work. Data is a little more detailed but easily done. Yes it is illegal and if the phone was reported stolen or missing the only places you're going to get it working is a lower tiered service provider like metro pcs or cricket unless you swap the esn. Again it is illegal and I can't tell you how to do it without violating forum rules.
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how would you get the PRL? I am running a stock sprint 2.1 rom. Heard some people got it to run under a eris rom. I don't think that matters what Rom your using. i'm soo close.. I keep getting "We're unable to authenticate your phone at this time..." DO i just strip the PRL off the old phone? Isn't there an A-KEY that has to be delt with.?? i've seen lots of people get text and talk (all I need) but how are they getting past the A-KEY???
Is the PRL the answer to my mess?
I was actually looking to do just this, only the opposite. Buy a Verizon phone and activate it on Sprint's network. Altering ESNs is illegal, is it a different story if you rightfully own the ESNs that you are modifying? I had my EVO stolen so I'm stuck paying full price for another smartphone if I want one. I'd love to buy a phone, full retail price, from Verizon so that I legitimately own the device(and its ESN?), and swap its ESN with another Sprint phone which I legitimately own. I'm just unsure if this is allowed or still considered illegal. Can anyone provide insight?
I'm pretty sure this would require changing the ESN of the phone. If you own the phones and ESNs that are being altered/swapped and you aren't cheating the carrier out of any money(i.e. putting a Hero's ESN on an EVO so they don't charge you the $10 premium data charge because they think its a Hero, which would be theft of their services=ILLEGAL) is it still not allowed.
Changing the ESN is highly illegal, no matter if you own both devices. Look at it this way, the fact that you own 2 cars does not give you the right to exchange their VIN numbers. Identification numbers on products are not meant to be modified.
Please proceed carefully with the discussion of this thread. Continued talks about exchanging (cloning) ESN may end up getting this thread closed down.. Thanks.
Hero Chop Shop?
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Still no text and talk,
Running southpaw rom on HERO with Verizon PRL, and Verizon Radio, updated MDN and MIN, and all data info. Only thing I have not done per some guides is call verizon Customer service to update the A-Key. I don't think this is necessary, I think i'm done with this project..
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Still no text and talk,
Running southpaw rom on HERO with Verizon PRL, and Verizon Radio, updated MDN and MIN, and all data info. Only thing I have not done per some guides is call verizon Customer service to update the A-Key. I don't think this is necessary, I think i'm done with this project..
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I have ran into a similar problem like this with authentication problem.
Do you already have service?
Was "donor" phone you used your primary phone that was already activated?
What I did is activate another version phone the reactivated my modified fascinate and got a new a-key.
Email me if you have problems after this I am planning on going down a similar route with a evo If you catch my drift.
Here is my email
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Doing this leagelly
Okay so if I can get verizon to activate my htc hero's esn how can I flash the phone myself to Verizon first?
Or better yet how do I get to the menus to program the phone manually. I can get into the menus for the phone I want to replace and change the information accordingly if I can get to the programming menu on the htc hero. Its a sprint phone going to verizon.
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Okay so if I can get verizon to activate my htc hero's esn how can I flash the phone myself to Verizon first?
Or better yet how do I get to the menus to program the phone manually. I can get into the menus for the phone I want to replace and change the information accordingly if I can get to the programming menu on the htc hero. Its a sprint phone going to verizon.
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1. Why did bump a dead thread that is almost a year old?
2. As per older posts any procedures you take flashing a device is HIGHLY illegal. You're better off just getting a Verizon phone.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
why would u want to use a hero on verizon anyway phones so outdated u can get xperia plays for 99$ oh and stop bumping these threads when we say its ilegal we mean it.
Hey I bought an Alltel Hero for the sole purpose of hacking (I'm going to change its ESN/MEID) but we're not gonna talk about that purpose directly..
Just answer this for me.. If I do what I plan to do, do I need to flash a new radio or will the Alltel radio that it already has already "tell" it to look for Verizon towers?
Hi all,
I'm waiting patiently for my 64gb developer phone which I should be getting next week. In the meantime I've been combing through the forums trying to get as much information as I can regarding the developer's edition HTC One. When I think I got the answer I'm looking for I see something else that makes me think another way. With this thread I'm hoping to get answers in one place to avoid confusion. Someone please educate me on this phone.
1. Will I be able to get 4G LTE, and or HSPA+?
2. Unlocked bootloader means I can flash roms but not kernels? How will I know which roms/kernels are the correct ones to flash for the dev edition?
3. Has anyone achieved s-off yet and if so which method is the best and easiest?
4. Tmo is going to be my carier. Whats this about Non Tmo devices needing the Tmobile 4GLTE APN added to the phone to connect to 4G LTE? Does this mean I don't have LTE (I guess it related to 1st question). And how do I add the tmo 4gLTE APN?
5. How does insurance work with unlocked phones and who do I get it from?
Sorry for all these questions. I'm fascinated and I want to be a developer one day so I'm trying to find my way. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi all,
I'm waiting patiently for my 64gb developer phone which I should be getting next week. In the meantime I've been combing through the forums trying to get as much information as I can regarding the developer's edition HTC One. When I think I got the answer I'm looking for I see something else that makes me think another way. With this thread I'm hoping to get answers in one place to avoid confusion. Someone please educate me on this phone.
1. Will I be able to get 4G LTE, and or HSPA+?
2. Unlocked bootloader means I can flash roms but not kernels? How will I know which roms/kernels are the correct ones to flash for the dev edition?
3. Has anyone achieved s-off yet and if so which method is the best and easiest?
4. Tmo is going to be my carier. Whats this about Non Tmo devices needing the Tmobile 4GLTE APN added to the phone to connect to 4G LTE? Does this mean I don't have LTE (I guess it related to 1st question). And how do I add the tmo 4gLTE APN?
5. How does insurance work with unlocked phones and who do I get it from?
Sorry for all these questions. I'm fascinated and I want to be a developer one day so I'm trying to find my way. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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1. You can get lte if your in a lte area. You will get hspa if your in a Markey with the 1900 band
2. You can flash roms kernels and radios now with s on
3. Prob no need for s off anymore
4. Put in the SIM should be auto or just Google it
5. Squaretrade.com
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I am still struggling, some people say that you will never get 3g, but yes on 4g, some other says that you will never get both of them since you are Tmobile. I can tell you, I have Tmobile wiht my HTC One Dev edition and I am getting HSDPA, and I pretty happy wiht that, but I am also worried why we are not getting 4G, so I also have started reading about that, the specs are almost the same, but it looks like the problem is the radio installed in the dev edition. So it look like if some dev are able to pull the radio out of the Tmobile HTC One version and try to adapt it or maybe directly installed in out dev edition it will work. I heard this a couple of days ago from another topic in this forum.
Good luck:good:
So 4glte runs on AWS 1700 and dev version doesn't support it unless a developer figures out how to flash it on the dev phone. Do you think that possibility is high? Thanks for the info.
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Wow... when you say neither that's pretty scary. I certainly hope that's not the case. I live in NJ in a 1900 rich area. I really do hope we can get LTE and hspa+. I told my wife we are getting 4g with these new phones but I guess I read wrong. We're coming from Sprint so even if we get hspa+ it's a major improvement.
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So 4glte runs on AWS 1700 and dev version doesn't support it unless a developer figures out how to flash it on the dev phone. Do you think that possibility is high? Thanks for the info.
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So I heard that the problem with dev version is that it has the compatibility built in hardware, but the radio which comes with the dev version doesn't support it, the problem here is that I don't know if flashing the radio from Tmobile HTC one will brick our phone.
If some developer could come to the thread and give us some answer, I don't have enough knowledge about how radios works.
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So I heard that the problem with dev version is that it has the compatibility built in hardware, but the radio which comes with the dev version doesn't support it, the problem here is that I don't know if flashing the radio from Tmobile HTC one will brick our phone.
If some developer could come to the thread and give us some answer, I don't have enough knowledge about how radios works.
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You can flash it without bricking, but based on a thread in here that it doesn't work. There might be addition files other than the radio or something.
based on this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236 we have the same devices with T-Mobile and AT&T
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248586 is where some people have tried and it booted, but they don't get HSPA+ on non-refarmed areas.
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You can flash it without bricking, but based on a thread in here that it doesn't work. There might be addition files other than the radio or something.
based on this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236 we have the same devices with T-Mobile and AT&T
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248586 is where some people have tried and it booted, but they don't get HSPA+ on non-refarmed areas.
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I suspect that we are going to need S-Off in order to get this working, assuming that there is not in fact some hardware difference between the dev and TMO versions. I've read the threads, but I don't know where they get their information. I have not seen anything from HTC on which hardware is in the various phones.
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I suspect that we are going to need S-Off in order to get this working, assuming that there is not in fact some hardware difference between the dev and TMO versions. I've read the threads, but I don't know where they get their information. I have not seen anything from HTC on which hardware is in the various phones.
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I have not either, but based on current information to go by that's all we have. I think the only way we could tell for sure is a complete tear down of each model, but so far that has not been accomplished. If there are any variations in the hardware we'd see them and could say "It isn't going to work". If there is no difference then it has to be software/firmware thing.
Hi Everyone,
I've been reading the reviews and specs for the MI5 Pro and am considering purchasing one. GSM/CDMA support, 128Gb Storage, etc. sounds great to me.
My plan is to have something with an unlocked BL so I can root, TWRP, and AOSP it just the way I want it.
Before I do how much of a pain will it be to getting working on Verizon's 4G/LTE networks? If I understand what I am reading correctly it supports all the frequency bands on Big Red. Any thoughts? Comments and suggestions are requested on this.
Thanks in Advance
I should also add this is not for the BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) program. I have a monthly plan and am up for a new device but don't want what they offer.
I highly doubt you'll be able to get it to work on Verizon. Even unlocking GSM bands is a pain.
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VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.
FernBch said:
VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.
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I don't specifically know about verizon, but our local CDMA carriers do work with the Mi5.
Cdma carriers the us only allows approved devices.
No hope.
FernBch said:
VZW is CDMA. The specs say it supports all the needed bands I just don't know if they are "active" out of the box.
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You can be the guniea pig and try it out but your chances of getting it to work on Verizon are slim to none.
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The more I research this the more dim the results look. It seems that the problem with bringing it to a CDMA network is lack of 4G functionality. Definitely a deal breaker for sure......
Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (read: their branded devices). So there's pretty much no chance of your Mi5 (an unapproved, semi-compatible, and untested device as far as they are concerned) getting on the network, as your MEID needs to be in their system for you to connect to their network.
Stick with an actual GSM carrier.
Duwenbasden said:
Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (read: their branded devices). So there's pretty much no chance of your Mi5 (an unapproved, semi-compatible, and untested device as far as they are concerned) getting on the network, as your MEID needs to be in their system for you to connect to their network.
Stick with an actual GSM carrier.
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I knew that was how they were in the past but I thought maybe they loosened up on it. They now have a Bring Your Own Device program. Still doesn't get past getting 4G working flawlessly on CDMA.
I need to look deeper at GSM carriers in the US. Coverage in my area is important for work.
I just saw you message and it is a bit late, but I have the Mi5 and use it on Verizon. It is only 3G on that. I can also use both my Verizon Sim card and my AT&T sim at the same time and have two carriers with two different numbers on the same phone. I had to do nothing to get it to work on Verizon other than pop in the sim card. I hope this helps.
Thanks DFSPCC, I was wondering the same thing and having it listed to work with VZN in the US on willmyphonework.net up to 3G speeds, which is fine by me. Considering the low price at the moment for the Mi5, I think is a great option.
Never to late
I'm considering on getting this phone... 5.7 inch with OK specs to work with Verizon only thing is you said 3g but that's OK its just to play and test hopefully I can root it... Don't knkw if they have any Roms for it..... Ive been HTC for over 10 yrs and they have let me down been waiting for a 5.7 or bigger... The max was nice but bad specs realy slow so.... I was going to do the s8 plus but now I see the U12 coming soon. But i don't know if Verizon will carry it... They don't carry the U11 don't know why.... What do you think? And thanks again for your time and help god bless....
DFSPCC said:
I just saw you message and it is a bit late, but I have the Mi5 and use it on Verizon. It is only 3G on that. I can also use both my Verizon Sim card and my AT&T sim at the same time and have two carriers with two different numbers on the same phone. I had to do nothing to get it to work on Verizon other than pop in the sim card. I hope this helps.
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Time to upgrade from the S5.
It is not clear to me if there are carrier specific versions. In my case, I need to use US Cellular and Cricket. US Cell being the main one, Cricket just for phone/occasional text.
But with all the model numbers, I don't know if something like an SM-N690U1 will work, or I can make it work with a custom ROM, or do I need to be looking on swappa/ebay/amazon for a US Cellular specific one.
If you get an unlocked phone, do you get all the bands for each carrier? ie, if US Cellular has a specific model, will an unlocked phone work on all the bands as the carrier-specific one? Or just some?
Back in the good old days, these were easier questions to answer.
Thanks for any help.
Bump once jic. Really wanna know.
mrcpu said:
Time to upgrade from the S5.
It is not clear to me if there are carrier specific versions. In my case, I need to use US Cellular and Cricket. US Cell being the main one, Cricket just for phone/occasional text.
But with all the model numbers, I don't know if something like an SM-N690U1 will work, or I can make it work with a custom ROM, or do I need to be looking on swappa/ebay/amazon for a US Cellular specific one.
If you get an unlocked phone, do you get all the bands for each carrier? ie, if US Cellular has a specific model, will an unlocked phone work on all the bands as the carrier-specific one? Or just some?
Back in the good old days, these were easier questions to answer.
Thanks for any help.
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Getting info on compatibility w/USC is tricky,not many peeps around here are in your situation,but,I'll try to help as best I can:
1st item:
I'd change the title of the thread to show the carriers you're interested in for compatibility.
Not nitpicking,just that there's a lot of threads that discuss the topic,& a lot of peeps might just blow right past it.
Best to give an idea of which carriers you're dealing with,it might just grab the attention of someone on US Cellular who can give a definitive answer.
Admittedly without the IMEI in-hand,this is of little use,but a starting point nevertheless:
https://m.uscellular.com/uscellular/app/device/bring-your-own-device/
Talk to a CSR & see if by off-chance,they may be able to determine if the SM-9600 (SEE BELOW) will work.......
You can rule out the SM-N960U/SM-N960U1/SM-N960W as none have root or a 2nd SIM Slot.
The Exynos version (SM-N960 F/DS) is dual SIM & rootable,but lacks CDMA bands,which may affect usability w/US Cellular.
You might have some luck with the SM-N9600 (Int'l Snapdragon version w/dual SIM & rootable),but,not knowing how US Cellular treats BYOD,IDK.
Check this compatibility tool,it looks like you might have some luck with the SM-N9600:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker
USC is the monkey wrench in the mix here,being they're a MVNO of VZW & IDK how much of the CDMA part of the network affects your service area.
If you really need a dual-SIM Note 9,you'd be better off with both service providers being AT&T/T-Mobile or any mix of the two & the MVNOs associated with both.
One possibility to consider:
If you're only needing data from one SIM/service provider,but,want two (or more) numbers on the same device,you might want to consider T-Mobile & their DIGITS option:
https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/t-mobile-digits
What's nice about DIGITS is it'll work on any phone,only one-SIM Required & it doesn't have to be a T-Mobile branded phone.
So,if you're wanting root & the use of two phone numbers,you can have both with either a Single SIM (SM-N960F) Dual-SIM (SM-N960F/DS) or the SM-N9600 (I think it comes in both single & dual SIM models).
Again,I wish I could be more definitive w/the suggestions,but,there just isn't much info regarding US Cellular out there.
Your situation is one of the main reasons I left Sprint & choose to stay away from service providers that use CDMA as part of their network,it really limits your options for BYOD.