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It has crossed my mind that it might be possible to put an ipod classic/video hard drive into the Athena. I have, unfortunately, no idea as to wether the current HD on my 8gig Ameo is CF or ZIF. Or wether the OS will see 40gb
Q Does anyone know what type HD interface is present in the Ameo and how does can I open the case? I have already taken the torx screws off the bottom but that does not free up anything and without knowing what happens next I am reluctant to break anything.
check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357502
post 110 onwards post 135 onwards post 157 onwards, post 188 onwards
advisable to read the whole thread really, a wealt of information and a great job and team effort fom some of this forum members.
By the way I believe that the limit of WM is 32MB somebody correct my if wrong
also please post in that thread if you get any findings, people keep duplicating threads and information all over the place.
regards
Thanks for that reference PBL, as you say all very interesting.
I must admint it looks a little daunting all the pics about taking the darn thing appart and then getting it back working again. I would guess that the 40gb hd or something of tha size is going to be physically too big. But I would happily settle for 32gb if it can be made to work.
PBL1 said:
By the way I believe that the limit of WM is 32MB somebody correct my if wrong
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32MB is the limit for FAT12, not a limitation of WM per se. WM however reads FAT16/32 just fine, which means you can access up to 2GB/8TB (yes, you read that right). The Athena's HDD is formated in FAT32.
aemo said:
I would guess that the 40gb hd or something of tha size is going to be physically too big
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You're right there - the iPod Classic uses 1.8" notebook HDDs, which are much larger than the sub-1" HDD used in the Athena.
ok I've voiced my opinion on android multitasking before. but this has me confused. I seem to lose RAM over time.
my setup is that I basically run my phone stock. no killing apps with task killers. I run the following services, HTC keyboard, Google finance, battery widget, Google voice/talk/gmail. that's basically it.
when I first start my phone, a bunch of apps show up running and the phone has 30 mb free RAM. over 24 hours less and less apps stay in the cache as "inactive" or "background", until only the above services I run are left running. yet the RAM stays at 30 mb free RAM still. why is this happening? I tested this out over 24 hours, but it gets to this point much sooner, maybe after an hour or so.
edit: also why can't the OS anticipate the apps I DO frequently use and keep THOSE cached in memory? literally the phone pre loads every single app I DON'T use, like Google earth, mp3 store, etc.
http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
oh and I also run the xda app service too.
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In that case you'll need this link instead: http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
Um, may I ask are you annoyed, or are you just interested? Unless your phone is lagging due to apps being idle, how much RAM you have shouldn't even concern you.. not to sound rude or anything, but are you like this on an actual computer as well? People seem to be obsessed with RAM consumption, if my phone doesn't have any issues.. I don't care how much RAM I currently have.
I'm just curious. this does kind of effect things because things like opera start to close just by switching away from it when these conditions happen. but a reboot and opera will keep my page loaded for hours.
it shouldn't matter either way, we are all trying to learn and understand how android works. and the point me this thread is I think this is a bug or a memory leak that people might not know about.
I don't use a computer ever, all phones.
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In that case you'll need this link instead: http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
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thank you, can't wait to watch there! might be what I'm looking for.
Eclair~ said:
Um, may I ask are you annoyed, or are you just interested? Unless your phone is lagging due to apps being idle, how much RAM you have shouldn't even concern you.. not to sound rude or anything, but are you like this on an actual computer as well? People seem to be obsessed with RAM consumption, if my phone doesn't have any issues.. I don't care how much RAM I currently have.
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Not to be redundant but that would be the exact reason why someone would care about their RAM usage xD I actually have that problem as well. Even if I kill all tasks, my phone will lock up still. Not sure what the issue is. I feel like the older the phone gets the more it's messing up. (I have had it only for 2 months lol
Just a thought from another thread.. Per the system info:
RAM: 818MB (of the advertised 1GB)
Internal Storage: 10.71GB (Of the advertised 16GB)
I'm going to assume the system is using the remaining space for the WebTop. Is there anyway to disable that? I'm not worried about the internal storage, but the extra couple MB of RAM wouldn't hurt any.
good luck using the 818mb of ram
t0dbld said:
good luck using the 818mb of ram
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If the system is correct at all.. I'm using an average of about 600MB Like most things, it's not that I need it - I just want it. There's no reason to set aside 200MB for the webtop if I don't plan on buying one today or tomorrow.
16GB storage is ~2GB for webtop+Android, ~2GB for app storage, 11 for media storage.
Some of that ram is probably reserved for the webtop..just guessing!
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SN4K3B1T3 said:
Some of that ram is probably reserved for the webtop..just guessing!
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Yeah, that's what the OP said. he wants to know if possible to disable web top and regain those extra rams.
Probably in a custom rom..you could clean out the webtop and blur all in one go or just build one around the stock kernel till bootloader is unlocked..just guessing but i doubt youd be able to simply disable webtop..then again im not a dev and i dont have one in hand...damn bell hurry up and release it!!
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800mb of available for userspace is more than u will ever need in android, that by its self is a lot of ram lol.
Eth3n said:
800mb of available for userspace is more than u will ever need in android, that by its self is a lot of ram lol.
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That reminds me of the "older" generations.
"This 200MHz/32MB Ram computer will last me years! There's just no way to max it out!"
Fact is, people find a way to push our computers every day. Eventually my Atrix might be pushed, and I want the most I can get 200MB is 1/5 of the total RAM, it can't hurt to have it.
Quick fact from checking dmesg and other kernel info, once I rooted my Atrix.
The phone has 1GB of RAM, but upon boot it is allocated like this:
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected]
Translation from kernel args to popular language:
RAM available for the OS: 832Mb
RAM reserved for the "video card": 192Mb
Even after a clear boot, with webtop completely stop, you can run /usr/bin/free and notice that there is indeed only 832MB of RAM available to the OS.
And as I posted on the the other thread about the webtop, there is no RAM consumed by the webtop when you are on "mobile mode" only. Webtop is just a second X session started on the linux OS that is below Android, redirected to the HDMI port.
uskr said:
Quick fact from checking dmesg and other kernel info, once I rooted my Atrix.
The phone has 1GB of RAM, but upon boot it is allocated like this:
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected]
Translation from kernel args to popular language:
RAM available for the OS: 832Mb
RAM reserved for the "video card": 192Mb
Even after a clear boot, with webtop completely stop, you can run /usr/bin/free and notice that there is indeed only 832MB of RAM available to the OS.
And as I posted on the the other thread about the webtop, there is no RAM consumed by the webtop when you are on "mobile mode" only. Webtop is just a second X session started on the linux OS that is below Android, redirected to the HDMI port.
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Thanks! I guess the next question is... how do we determine how much ram is being used by the display. It'd be nice to put in a couple of the "more intensive" games and see how it fairs. If it comes anywhere close to maxing it out I wouldn't mind expanding it.
I'm sure however - that Motorola has done their testing and they believe this to be the best.
Hello,
I wiil start with the RAM. I've searched the forums for an answer to the lack of ram and people are saying the current kernel isn't supporting 512 ram which is probably bull**** because I saw a Desire HD of a friend, and it uses all the RAM. Other people say that the other Ram goes to graphic use, which is wierd, because again, the Desire HD has 512 RAM.
So my question is did someone knows the real answer? Because I'm pretty disappointed that I have 150 free RAM after I'm killing all the tasks, and some games are laggy from time to time (Angry Birds (espacially Rio), Fruit Ninja). Maybe we can even sue Samsung for publishing false specs XD
My second question is about the GPS, I'm using Phoenix ultimate rom, did anyone tried it with this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957164 and saw better results? The GPS in this rom is better then other roms but i'm still find it unusable.
My thirs nd last question is that there's a problem I've saw in all the roms I've been using. When I call someone the volume is high for something like 5-10 sec and then become lower, and the volume in the call itself is pretty low and I can't talk in crowdy places. I know there's a method to increase the volume but I'm not sure how and which volume is recommended. If someone can explain me it will be great!
Thanks in advance, Elad!
For the first question.
first of all you are using 150 ram... rather than having that much left. and I dont think there is any rom right now for the captivate that use all the ram..
2. my phone also never gets good gps. just send it back to at&t and keep getting a new one until you have good gps.
3. i really dont know... sorry..
So you say this this it's the rom that doesn't support? It's really hard for me to believe this because there's a lot of devices that use 2.1 and 2.2 and uses all of the 512 mb.. :/
And for the second answer I'm not living in USA I bought it on ebay because its basebands support my mobile operator basebands lol
For your 3rd question, have you tried different modems?
first of all, you need to read up on how RAM is used in linux and android. free ram is WASTED ram. there are 100 threads on here about that topic alone. please search
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For your 3rd question, have you tried different modems?
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I don't know how to use other modem, is there a guide or something? How will I know if the modem is supporting 850 and 2100 (this is the only basebands my mobile operator supports.. I need them both for full signal.
Pirateghost said:
first of all, you need to read up on how RAM is used in linux and android. free ram is WASTED ram. there are 100 threads on here about that topic alone. please search
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I know what is RAM, but sometimes there are apps that uses a lot of ram like angry birds rio that when in stand-by mode uses almost 100mb ram. But it doesn't matter, if the phone doesn't really have 512mb they shouldn't write in the specs that it does.
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I know what is RAM, but sometimes there are apps that uses a lot of ram like angry birds rio that when in stand-by mode uses almost 100mb ram. But it doesn't matter, if the phone doesn't really have 512mb they shouldn't write in the specs that it does.
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when an app needs the ram it will take it. and the phone does have 512. there are numerous threads about this as well. again, search
Pirateghost said:
when an app needs the ram it will take it. and the phone does have 512. there are numerous threads about this as well. again, search
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I've searched, and I found some theories, but still I don't know what's true.
Elad92 said:
I've searched, and I found some theories, but still I don't know what's true.
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there IS 512mb RAM, but its not all usable by the USER APPLICATIONS. some of it is used by the SYSTEM to run...
there is literally a massive thread open on this already somewhere. i will find it later
here is some reading for you to do in the meantime:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008237&highlight=ram
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792512&highlight=512mb
just as others have stated the phone DOES have 512mb of RAM. Just like with your computer you may have 2 gigs of RAM installed but that does not mean that you are going to be able to use all of it. More then likely several hundred mbs of that is going to go to system processes like svchost and explorer.exe. That leaves only part of that available for user applications.
As others have stated ram that is free is doing the phone no good. accesses to ram is hundreds of times faster then accesses to main memory so if a program has to load block into RAM it is going to get slowed down. Its better to just let the phone do its own thing and keep applications that are frequently used in RAM so they dont have to get loaded when needed
I have 2 captivates, the only GPS Fix I found that works, is an article that describes all the settings, and after I understood what each setting was I adjusted them to what makes sense, and it works great now. Accuracy ranges 16 to 32 ft. But none of the video's or anything other article worked.
Here is the title of the article. "Why Samsung Galaxy S i9000 GPS is inaccurate and how to fix it." It is located here on XDA-developers.
And BTW I am using the AT&T release of Froyo. Don't have a need to switch to another ROM, everything works.
Brian
Thank you, the ram questions was answered
Does anybody knows something about the other two questions?
In regards to GPS, I flashed Serendipity and its at least mostly usable now. Before, I couldn't get a lock unless I was standing still, then id lose it when I moved.
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My previous rom was Serendipity, and I flashed to phoenix few days after because of mysterious problems (which now I know had no connection to the rom). Anyway, I love Phoenix, does anyone have phoenix and can use the GPS?
In response to the GPS questions:
The GPS is designed to use the aluminum backplate as an antenna. If you have a thick case on it will work terribly. Thin silicon cases work well enough. Another thing to look at is the app you are using for navigation. Try and find telenav for the i9000 and it will work for the captivate. Google navigation will work terribly. If you have a navigation app that uses generated maps(telenav) or stored maps your GPS will be decent enough to use and will help quite a bit. Read plumbobs guide for more information in the captivate development section.
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the captivate has 512 mb ram total
much of that is hardwired for video. the desire hd if it is the same as the inspire has 768mb total so 512 is available for the system to use.
Has anyone tried using navigation with google maps already pre-loaded? If so how is it? Did it improve navigation performance? Google navigation is absolutely horrible for me. Constantly losing signal while driving rendering it useless.
Hey guys, after getting my s7 i got myself a Galaxy tab E for work, edit word docs, read e-mails, excel and media... the issue is, it only has 8gb of internal storage. I have been away from rooting and moding for a year now and i see this is not a popular device, still i would like to make make my 32gb sd card part of the internal storage. I will root the tab, but i need a way to have more internal storage as i have many apps and this sd card won't leave the device, can anybody help please?
GOOD DAY TO YOU ALL
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Dedzdedz said:
Hey guys, after getting my s7 i got myself a Galaxy tab E for work, edit word docs, read e-mails, excel and media... the issue is, it only has 8gb of internal storage. I have been away from rooting and moding for a year now and i see this is not a popular device, still i would like to make make my 32gb sd card part of the internal storage. I will root the tab, but i need a way to have more internal storage as i have many apps and this sd card won't leave the device, can anybody help please?
GOOD DAY TO YOU ALL
Dedz.mad
@dedz.mad on instagram follow for car stance in development, geek and car lover.
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Have a look at roehsoft ram expander, it also has a program to proof is it would run on your device.
Sent from S7 edge with great Echoe ROM and AEL kernel. Thanks for ever ❤
Ottschke said:
Have a look at roehsoft ram expander, it also has a program to proof is it would run on your device.
Sent from S7 edge with great Echoe ROM and AEL kernel. Thanks for ever ❤
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Isn't that supposed to expand virtual memory? Because all i want is to make the sd card part of the internal storage.