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Question about ROOT access?

I figured, I would get the best response here... If you ROOT an Android phone, will downloading OTA updates through your phone brick it? I read an article about the new OTA for the EVO and it will brick rooted devices.

Misinformation. It would brick it if you applied it twice in sequence, not if you were rooted. You need the stock recovery to apply updates anyway, if you do get one it will not harm the phone because it can't be applied.

In the thread when the final OTA was coming out, lots of people that were rooted, said they installed it, it worked fine, but they lost root. So then they have to obtain root again.
So, I'd assume it would work fine if everything else was stock... you just might loose root.

So your saying, that if I were to install an OTA update through a rooted Android device running stock firmware, it would go through successfully without bricking it. But, if I ran the update a second time it would brick it. Correct?

If you're on a rooted stock rom, assuming you haven't flashed a custom recovery, the phone's recovery utility will not allow you to flash an OTA update because of a signature mismatch. I'm not sure what happened with the evo, but I don't believe it can happen with the nexus.

Okay, thanks? But I would still like some more input on this situation.

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PurpleLlamaLover said:
Okay, thanks? But I would still like some more input on this situation.
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If your not rooted you can still flash OTA update leaks, there are plenty out there. If you want custom roms then you have to root. The stock recovery only flashes stock updates, not rooted updates. If your not getting it by reading the forums, then I suggest you stay on stock, and wait for OTA update.

efishta said:
If you're on a rooted stock rom, assuming you haven't flashed a custom recovery, the phone's recovery utility will not allow you to flash an OTA update because of a signature mismatch. I'm not sure what happened with the evo, but I don't believe it can happen with the nexus.
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No, this only happens with this specific update with the EVO.

Alright, great! Thanks guys. So since I believe the nexus one already got the offical OTA, did any of you lose ROOT access?

You WILL loose root when you update from an OTA update.

I had a rooted FRF50 and went to the FRF83 update and lost root/custom recovery, everything else was fine though.

I ask that you all forgiveth the newb nature of my question in advance, but if my phone has been rooted, and is currently running FRF50, is there anything I can do to the phone to have it automatically update using OTA? I ask because I received the notice for the OTA update the other day, but being rooted, got a signature mismatch error. (The only reason my phone is rooted is bc I bought it used that way-I wish I could've had it bone stock instead!) I know I can somehow do a manual update, but I'm trying to figure out for further future OTA updates if there's a way that I can have my phone simply automatically apply them.

Well, first off, thanks for hijacking.... AND, I have been doing a bunch of research. You should find the official build of froyo (FRF85B correct?) and manually update it. Just use it unrooted and it'll be easier when an OTA update comes along

Uninstalled Kies - how to update?

Hello, Gentlemen.
I bought a Note in early November and, being a fresh immigrant to the land of Android from Maemo, the first thing I did was install Titanium backup and clean out all of the Samsung bloatware. Stupidly, I uninstalled Kies in this way, and so have never been able to perform an OTA update. The updates download and apparently install, then the device restarts and tells me that the update has failed.
I hadn't bothered fixing it before now as the updates have been minor, but I want to get this fixed in time for the ICS release
How, then, will I reset my Note to factory condition and start anew? Is this even necessary?

if i'm not mistakes, once you phone is rooted you wont be able to update via kies.
happened to me on my Galaxy Tab 10.1, i'm unable to update from HC3.1 to HC3.2.
Just use custom rom instead.

Welcome to Android Mate, You've made the right choice.
Yeah, You can go back to Ground Zero Stock, Untouched. But That is not really necessary. All Stock ROMS get leaked or released anyway. But If you insist, You may Read the Guide here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997

JohnPaul_II said:
I hadn't bothered fixing it before now as the updates have been minor, but I want to get this fixed in time for the ICS release
How, then, will I reset my Note to factory condition and start anew? Is this even necessary?
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You'll get ICS here at XDA at least a month before Samsung sees fit to grace you with OTA, so I wouldn't bother with Kies if I were you.
You're in better hands here.

[Q] note 3 going back locked?

I have a quick question and I think I am right but want to make sure before I do it. I have a note 3n900a version NB4. I rooted it cant remember now what i used, was thinking kies but that could be wrong. I know at the time I checked and I had not tripped the knox count. I froze auto update and left phone alone. At the time i was thinking I would just have to unfreeze auto update and it would update and relock phone when it came time to turn back in. That is my only question, can i still do that and not have any issues? Its about time to return it for upgrade and I do not want to wait till last min to do it and have a dead phone and all. Thanks a bunch

You have 2 options. You can uninstall root, and hope it updates, then factory reset and return.
Or you can just use Odin to flash the latest firmware, factory reset and return.
To do the first painful option unfreeze everything you froze. Restore any deleted system apps. Open superuser and choose "full un-root". Open settings and navigate to software update. Now pray it updates because it failed at 20% for the majority of users here. If it updated, factory reset and return.
If your update fails you need to use Odin and flash the latest firmware. Then you'll be completely stock and up to date. For instructions and firmware files read this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703006

thanks a bunch, yea i guess i could use odin i still have all the files. thanks too for the link.

Another question along the same lines. So if i just do a factory reset would that mess up my root in any way? or can i do a factory reset and reinstall super su and be good to go again? thanks a bunch.

4.4.2 to 5.0

Hello guys, i've been reading posts all day about this but couldn't find a solution. A friend of mine brought from the US an unlocked S5 from AT&T, he can't update it from the settings menu to lollipop. I found the OTA file which i'm supposed to flash from sd from the recovery menu but when i try to do it, nothing happens. Can someone tell me if i can update from 4.4.2 to 5? Thanks in advance

A lot of people had issues just updating to 4.4.4. I was one of them, it's a process. First try wiping the cache and do a factory reset. It that doesn't work, you need to reflash NCE, then take the OTA updates. BEWARE, if you are interested in Rooting, don't take the lollipop update. 5.0 is unrootable at the moment. If you're not worried about rooting, make sure you do another factory reset and cache wipe after upgrading to lollipop. For some reason it doesn't fully install without it. You will get a slew of bugs, reset fixes a lot of them. Trying to find the original thread I used to do it.
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Thanks a lot for your help, i downloaded NCE and tried flashing with ODIN and got an error "Fail (Auth)". Any ideas? :/

Root 5.1.1 or 6.0.1?

I have a TMobile Note 4 SM-N910T. It's currently on 5.1.1 stock and I just got the OTA Marshmallow update notification. I'd like to try Marshmallow out, but if I allow the OTA update, will I be able to root it later? Or is 6.0.1 unrootable (for now)? If I root it now (before updating to MM) will I still get the OTA update? And will it still be rooted after the update? So many questions!

ota then root

I OTA'ed, now the phone randomly reboots several times a day, and some apps don't work correctly. Great.

factory reset.

*sigh* I was afraid you were going to say that. Now the problem is backing it up. I have a Titanium Backup Pro license, but I only use it on my old rooted GS2. The Note 4 is not rooted so TB won't run on it. All the rooting tutorials say "back up your phone before you root" but you need root to run TB. Chicken or egg? I guess I could try Samsung Kies, don't know if it will back up everything. My photos are backed up to Google Photos, I guess everything else is replaceable, but I would really rather not have to reinstall all my apps one by one after a factory reset.
That brings up another question: when you to go Settings/Backup and Reset, I have "Backup my data" set to On and linked to my Google account, but nowhere can I find documentation of exactly WHAT gets backed up or to WHERE (it says to "Google servers" but what the heck does that mean? I can't find it on my Google Drive or anywhere else on my Google account dashboard.)
I do greatly appreciate your help, by the way.

You could try reinstalling through kies or smart switch. Make sure to clear caches before and after. And see if that works. If it doesnt help, you could flash recovery, root, try to backup as much as you can between reboots and then factory reset. Your apps should automatically download from play store. But without the titbackup files you'll lose settings and data in a lot of apps that Google doesn't backup.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.

kydar said:
I have a TMobile Note 4 SM-N910T. It's currently on 5.1.1 stock and I just got the OTA Marshmallow update notification. I'd like to try Marshmallow out, but if I allow the OTA update, will I be able to root it later? Or is 6.0.1 unrootable (for now)? If I root it now (before updating to MM) will I still get the OTA update? And will it still be rooted after the update? So many questions!
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Were you able to downgrade back to 5.1.1? My phone also download the MM ota but I haven't installed it. I rooted 5.1.1 first and am trying to locate where exactly the MM ota downloaded to.
Been hearing too much about problems with MM.

Shad0wsabr3 said:
Were you able to downgrade back to 5.1.1? My phone also download the MM ota but I haven't installed it. I rooted 5.1.1 first and am trying to locate where exactly the MM ota downloaded to.
Been hearing too much about problems with MM.
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There aren't that many problems with MM. Just superficial stuff like not having mobile data toggle. The problems you are hearing about a factory reset will fix. Like lag, jankyness, apps loading, phone freezing temporarily. You won't be able to do OTA. It will fail because of root. You need to titanium backup or whatever method you prefer of backing up data and flash through kies, odin or smart switch. Probably easier to go that route unless you only did minor things with root like just block ads, then you can probably get away with flashing stock recovery and then OTA. You still might have to factory reset like I had to even though I flashed whole rom through smart switch. If you have xposed or modified something like swapping recent apps and back key like me, then you'll need to flash marshmallow whole and start over after backing up.
Afaik, you can't downgrade to 5.1.1 unless somebody figured out a workaround or you only flashed everything except bootloader.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.

@Shad0wsabr3, my phone gave me the choice to delay the upgrade for a while, but eventually just did it without my consent. I suppose you could download stock 5.1.1 from sammobile if you really wanted to downgrade. I just wish I could figure out how to back up my (unrooted) phone so I could then do a factory reset and see if it helps the problems I'm having.

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@Shad0wsabr3, my phone gave me the choice to delay the upgrade for a while, but eventually just did it without my consent. I suppose you could download stock 5.1.1 from sammobile if you really wanted to downgrade. I just wish I could figure out how to back up my (unrooted) phone so I could then do a factory reset and see if it helps the problems I'm having.
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Iv never backed up an unrooted device so I wouldn't know. Glad you nrought that up as Iv been meaning to look into that.
Would you happen to know where the downloaded ota file location is? My phone downloaded it and I keep postponing it.

Sorry, idk exactly where in the file system it is. All I can caution you again is, I kept postponing it and postponing it, and then one day the phone just popped up a message saying it was going to reboot and update, whether I liked it or not. Well, it didn't actually SAY whether I liked it or not but it did decide that I had postponed the update long enough and it was going to apply the update, giving me no option to postpone it any longer. That sort of pissed me off.
Please let me know if you come up with a backup solution. I've tried SimpleADB or whatever it is called these days, and another app that claimed to be able to back up an unrooted phone. Neither of them worked as advertised.

Where are the root instructions for completely stock 910T with MM update?

vernj123 said:
Where are the root instructions for completely stock 910T with MM update?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...overy-n910t-t3-marshmallow-pe3-guide-t3406870

kydar said:
Sorry, idk exactly where in the file system it is. All I can caution you again is, I kept postponing it and postponing it, and then one day the phone just popped up a message saying it was going to reboot and update, whether I liked it or not. Well, it didn't actually SAY whether I liked it or not but it did decide that I had postponed the update long enough and it was going to apply the update, giving me no option to postpone it any longer. That sort of pissed me off.
Please let me know if you come up with a backup solution. I've tried SimpleADB or whatever it is called these days, and another app that claimed to be able to back up an unrooted phone. Neither of them worked as advertised.
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I'm still researching what your dealing with. As for me I found the ota file. For those looking for it this is how and where I found it....
With RomToolbox I went to root browser. Then to data folder and a folder named fota. Within the fota folder is the ota update named update.zip. I erased that and then went into Titanium Backup and chose to freeze both software update files. So far no constant reminders that I have an update ready to be installed.
Hope this may help.