Hello xda Guys.
I am new and I have a question. Since I have updated my Xperia Z I have problems with my battery time. Before I have done update my battery was very slow too, but now it is horrible. I wanted to replace it four months ago, but I hadn't time. Now my question: Can I place the battery from the Z2 into my Xperia Z, or not?
Thanks Guys for your help
nope, from long distance its look like z2 battery is similar to z, but when you see them those are totally different batteries.
But you can buy bigger battery for z:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...3_74_75,201560_1&spm=2114.04020208.3.2.umgOBj
my friend have it, he said that its not HUGE difference, but he dont have problem with it at all, and compared to my phone, with new original battery its WAY better,(not as you would expected looking at size but still) especially in heavy games. after day of usage he still have 30-40 when I had to use power bank
Thanks alot for this Information
i live in bangladesh.. can i replace the battery own moblie...plz inform me
Be careful with cheap batteries from China. They tend to exaggerate a *lot*, and are often much worse than OEM batteries. At that price, it is far too good to be true. I can nearly guarantee it will be no better than stock, and possibly fail and overheat easily.
I bought a PolarCell battery from Germany, they are a known quality brand of aftermarket batteries. Rated at 2500mAh, slightly higher than the stock, and it was ~$25 - much more than any other brand, bit they are proven to be high quality. However, it performs identically to my original 2330mAh battery in terms of screen on time (goes flat well before end of the day with heavy use). Instead I got a battery bank case thing, that the phone clips into and it connects to the side dock. Also has a button on the back to turn on/off the battery bank charging mode. Works well, but blocks standard USB port.
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Probably 95% of batteries are from China
Rest is maybe from Taiwan or India :]
And yes, you should watch out for some of them, but this one that I posted is actually good, and not only because my friend have it, but because most of reviews are positive about it(not only from aliexpress).
Its not give you huge boots, like you would expect from capacity of it, but its definitely is better(especially standby).
But Everything depend from user
I found out that most of people complaining, use phone a lot, or they have loots of background sync and apps running. And they expected HUGE boots or 12 years standby mode.
Im heavy user, sometimes I think that Im only person that use phone to work(rest people use it as for media consumption) and even if I recently put new original battery I still cant manage full day of usage, and Im a bit mad because I could buy this bigger one.
PS. I have case with wireless charging I wanted the same as CosmicDan but phone is WAY to big with it. I dont use it now(I actually hate phone cases) But its pretty cool and actually fast charging. but small movement and it stops so it was annoying as hell. I bought it mostly for night charging, but its turn out that Docking station is just better...
Akinaro said:
Probably 95% of batteries are from China
Rest is maybe from Taiwan or India :]
And yes, you should watch out for some of them, but this one that I posted is actually good, and not only because my friend have it, but because most of reviews are positive about it(not only from aliexpress).
Its not give you huge boots, like you would expect from capacity of it, but its definitely is better(especially standby).
But Everything depend from user
I found out that most of people complaining, use phone a lot, or they have loots of background sync and apps running. And they expected HUGE boots or 12 years standby mode.
Im heavy user, sometimes I think that Im only person that use phone to work(rest people use it as for media consumption) and even if I recently put new original battery I still cant manage full day of usage, and Im a bit mad because I could buy this bigger one.
PS. I have case with wireless charging I wanted the same as CosmicDan but phone is WAY to big with it. I dont use it now(I actually hate phone cases) But its pretty cool and actually fast charging. but small movement and it stops so it was annoying as hell. I bought it mostly for night charging, but its turn out that Docking station is just better...
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Yes of course most things are manufactured on China, but the old adage "you get what you pay for" shouldn't be forgotten. I'd personally never trust a $10 battery that claims to have 1000mAh higher than every other, $20 battery. Standby is not a problem, can last for days on standby with original battery. SoT with adaptive brightness and regular use is what matters - unless you yourself have this battery and can personally say it lasts more than a day with heavy use, and doesn't develop a memory effect after 6 months, then I guess it is good. But some people prefer to be safe than sorry. I used to repair phones as a technician and 90% of aftermarket batteries out there are complete garbage, that's all I'm saying.
Wireless charging? How does that work, the Z doesn't have wireless charging capability? And it's not that thick, only adds another 0.8mm to thickness. You get used to it after a while, and it has enough juice to fully charge the battery with a bit to spare.
EDIT: This is the one I'm using: http://www.dx.com/p/rechargeable-28...-case-for-sony-l36h-black-216633#.Vhj0vIkzHqA
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Well, yeah, but many time I bought something from original shop, that is original new, and it was not cheap, and it had good opinion from forum users... and it was crap like hell.
Especially headphones. I'm crazy about headphone.. And those are not typical headphones for show off like most people use them today. I actually never use headphones in public(cant focus...).
And I bough many Sony headphones, Koss, JVC, AKG... aaaaand few times I bought Sennheiser because people say that they are good, and amazing etc etc... and those after Beats are really bad... even compared to JVC from HA series(best quality/price ratio)
So just because something is expensive it doesnt mean its better :]
And about wireless charging. you can buy something like that:
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But instead of microUSB you have small pins that are on side of case that connect to phone, just like most of cases for XZ that have powerbank.
I cant make picture of it(im not in home) but later I'll try find email with ebay link to buy one.
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Well, yeah, but many time I bought something from original shop, that is original new, and it was not cheap, and it had good opinion from forum users... and it was crap like hell.
Especially headphones. I'm crazy about headphone.. And those are not typical headphones for show off like most people use them today. I actually never use headphones in public(cant focus...).
And I bough many Sony headphones, Koss, JVC, AKG... aaaaand few times I bought Sennheiser because people say that they are good, and amazing etc etc... and those after Beats are really bad... even compared to JVC from HA series(best quality/price ratio)
So just because something is expensive it doesnt mean its better :]
And about wireless charging. you can buy something like that:
But instead of microUSB you have small pins that are on side of case that connect to phone, just like most of cases for XZ that have powerbank.
I cant make picture of it(im not in home) but later I'll try find email with ebay link to buy one.
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That's fair enough. Many brands claim to be genuine but are fake, indeed. But if the one you shared is clearly stated as non-genuine and has good reviews, than fair enough - I'm sure it's OK.
Headphones are such a flooded market, I bought an $80 pair once and they had terrible low range response. My $20 Samsung pair were so much better.
That's a pretty cool wireless charging thing, never seen them before. But do you keep it always connected and just have it stuck to the back with tape? [emoji14] the plug could also be damaged, so I would not use it for those reasons. But that's just me, still a cool accessory.
But if they combined the case design (like the one I shared) with a wireless charging thing, so it would be much thinner + connect to side dock and keep USB free, that would be cool!
EDIT: Sorry, didn't see what you said below - so it *does* connect to the dock on the side, nice!
I am planning on a new phone this Christmas, myself, so I am probably done with gadgets for the Z myself. Either the Xperia C5 Ultra (I miss my old phablet, its pretty cheap and will get Android 6.0 update too) or the BlackBerry Priv. But I digress.
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Im also waiting for BB Priv -_- I love this phone so much that I put picture of it in my p0rn folder xD
I hope battery is good in it
Akinaro said:
Im also waiting for BB Priv -_- I love this phone so much that I put picture of it in my p0rn folder xD
I hope battery is good in it [emoji14]
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Ha-ha for sure, it is beautiful and I loved the Qwerty keyboard on my old Nokia E63. But I'm worried about the price, C5 Ultra us only $500 AU brand new (which is maybe $420 USD I think). It's a mid range device, I only want big screen so I can type better like I used to. But keyboard much better. Priv surely has flagship specs, but I'm expecting it to be over $1000 AU - not sure I can afford that! But we will see
So... Batteries? Off topic Lol.... [emoji14]
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Hi to all.
I'm planing to by another phone. Budget is limited so there is not to much to pick.
Xperia seems good option because of big screen, LTE connectivity, premium design, important to me a very good camera and at the end is a flagship, but an old one, and that is my only concern.
So, my question is, should i by some newer(new) budget mid ranger or should give a try to Xperia Z? What is your experience with XZ?
Thanks
Ive had mine for a year now and do not intend to replace it any time soon. It runs all the current apps and games!
If your budget is tight, then get a Moto G, or OnePlus One or Nexus 5. Plenty of well specced devices around.
xperia u20i said:
Hi to all.
I'm planing to by another phone. Budget is limited so there is not to much to pick.
Xperia seems good option because of big screen, LTE connectivity, premium design, important to me a very good camera and at the end is a flagship, but an old one, and that is my only concern.
So, my question is, should i by some newer(new) budget mid ranger or should give a try to Xperia Z? What is your experience with XZ?
Thanks
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I bought mine 1 year and a half ago, and I can't be happier.
It's an excellent phone, great processor, ram, camera, water proof, design, development ( I had Lollipop from 1st day like a Nexus ), fullhd, 5"...
No need to spend 500€ to get a "rocket" smartphone.
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Thanks guys for the reply, for now is tight.
I would like to hear more opinions of owners.
What about screen on time? Now when is for example more then one year old? I don't play heavy games, mostly surfing, taking pictures, little facebook, and a lot texting and calling. And flashing roms of course
For me everything over 3 hours is good.
U can get maximum of 4.5 hours if u r not a gamer ( my experience with games 4 hour screen on time).. May b u will get around 5 hours screen on time if u play with some tweaks..
I bought my XZ this last year in November and I couldn't be happier. Ok, screen on time is not the best out there but, at least for me, it's enough. SOT performance goes between 3-4,5 h, which IMHO I think isn't bad. You could also underclock/undervolt it in case you want to expand its autonomy a bit else.
It depends on the price you are getting at, I would say go for z1 if the price difference is minimal. I've used both, choose the one in your budget
dont buy a Sony phone, they about to go out of business lol
I suggest no.
Xperia Z has following cons:
- Back glas went off due to bad glue.
- CPU throtthling while gaming due to thermal problems, games start to stutter. Device is getting hot while gaming. On 4.4.4 it a little bit better.
- Wifi and Bluettooth disconnects. Search for forums with this problem. You will hate that problem when you decide to get a Smartband. There i no fix for that.
- Weak Battery. I heavily modified my stock rom with tweaks for longer lasting battery, i reduced wakelocks, etc, but still only 1,5 days only with normal use (i dont use LTE). It loses too much battery on standby.
G1_enthusiast said:
dont buy a Sony phone, they about to go out of business lol
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So you came here from the HTC forum, proud of that you succeeded in unlocking the achievement? I find this behaviour a tiny bit bizarre, wondering what are you trying to prove? I mean, if you worship HTC, please remain in your little temple there. There's plenty of terrorist everywhere and nobody needs another one to come, terrorise Xperia or potential Xperia users.
Back on topic:
If you like Sony, just get another Xperia. They're not going out of business anytime soon as if anyone bothered to read, they're exploring (highly unlikely though) to start a jv or selling the business to another company. Of course if that happens, which have a remote chance, you're probably still be receiving smartphone support in the new business arrangement.
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jayp57 said:
I suggest no.
Xperia Z has following cons:
- Back glas went off due to bad glue.
- CPU throtthling while gaming due to thermal problems, games start to stutter. Device is getting hot while gaming. On 4.4.4 it a little bit better.
- Wifi and Bluettooth disconnects. Search for forums with this problem. You will hate that problem when you decide to get a Smartband. There i no fix for that.
- Weak Battery. I heavily modified my stock rom with tweaks for longer lasting battery, i reduced wakelocks, etc, but still only 1,5 days only with normal use (i dont use LTE). It loses too much battery on standby.
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- Back glass just fine, over 1.5 years old
- Name one device that doesn't throttle (and doesn't stutter while throttled)
- Wifi and Bluetooth fine as long as you don't use a smartband
- Battery life is average, not really bad but nothing special either, standy is great with the right kernel
Thats my Xperience, no major problems so far.
But really better deals for the money out there.
I guess it depends on the price..
But in today's terms the XZ really isn't great. Like others have said, newer mid-range phones have overtaken the XZ.
Battery life has always been the only major drawback for me using the XZ. In this day and age you should be able to use your phone as much as you like, not holding off reading emails / replying to tweets otherwise it'll die before you get home
You're lucky to get 4 hours screen on time, it's not exactly efficient in standby mode either.
the amount of money you are going to spent just get One Plus One or if you are on budget cost wait till you got abit more money to get a better device
Well, it's a wonderful phone, the main issue with it is the battery
As others said if your gaming is at minimum (1 hour Max a day) you can actually get it to work 8 hours, even more if no gaming and used the stamina mode
Other than that, it's easy to root at all times and relatively easy to flash and customize.
And it will be officially update to lollipop.
I say if z1 is in your range get it only for the battery issue.. If not the XZ is great
Z is a great device.. But u can also buy 1+1 since it has Z2 specs and a better front cam.. It lacks Water resistance like XZ though and the multimedia features won't be like a SONY.. So choose ur needs first and then select the one suitable.. Although i haven't experienced any of the issues which are mentioned in the thread yet.. I hope i won't too.. But still my XZ can beat the s**t outta One M7 & all their desire phones, any iPhone, any S**tsung.. If you are a rough handler of the phone, i suggest u to buy XZ coz its built better and 1+1 seems kinda delicate compared to Sony..
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dont buy a Sony phone, they about to go out of business lol
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Weren't you the one telling me I don't know what I'm talking about because of spelling mistakes?
G1_enthusiast has quoted you on xda-developers!
I'll believe you once you learn how to spell and put in some correct punctuation.
lol what company hire this moron? he cant even finished a sentence correctly.
I most probably will take XZ if i get good offer. But also maybe wait for month or two to see what will came out.
I also considering to buy SGS4 but i prefer Sony over Samsung. Only reason to take S4 will be the battery life. But like i said before i can live with 3+ hours of sot. Currently i'm using LG O4X which have vary bad sot. 2:30 is max that i can get. And all kind of problems with RIL, it's really "demanding" device, thanks to developers i still using him, but i think not for long.
Thanks
Azurren said:
I guess it depends on the price..
But in today's terms the XZ really isn't great. Like others have said, newer mid-range phones have overtaken the XZ.
Battery life has always been the only major drawback for me using the XZ. In this day and age you should be able to use your phone as much as you like, not holding off reading emails / replying to tweets otherwise it'll die before you get home
You're lucky to get 4 hours screen on time, it's not exactly efficient in standby mode either.
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Can you spell out some of those mid-range phones that are better than the XZ? my GF wants a new phone, and i cant seem to find a device thats as thin as the Z, has a fullHD 5" screen and 2gigs RAM and a 5.0 update for similar money...
this really isnt a sarcastic question. I just want to know what are those mid-range devices with these specs, so i can buy her a better phone and save some cash?
btw with heavy usage my Z never died on me until i came home(which means the whole day). im sorry if you use battery hogging apps that dont let your device sleep when you turn off the screen...
@Tommy-Geenexus
Do you really suggest that old spec phone to buy someone, with known not solved software problems on top of serious casing and thermal design flaws?
There are better options on the market. For that money you can have a LG G2 or a Galaxy S4 or a Honor 6 or One+ One.
Hey guys I'm about to buy a refurbished Xperia Z from Amazon, but I'd like you guys to give me some advice. Do you recommend me? My main concerns are battery, display(they say blacks are grayish), camera and sound. I come from a galaxy s3 and lumia 640 XL(maybe someone has/had one of these smartphones and could give me some thoughts). I suppose the performance is great. I also noticed the device has some pretty good community and development(which the s3 lacks a bit)-which is also very important to me... am I right? Also, how does AOSP-based lollipop(may I dare and also say marshmallow ) run on it? Sorry guys for too many questions and also sorry for my english.
Best regards!!
What can I say...
FIRST- if you're buying it for $100 or less maybe it is till a good deal, otherwise maybe it is better to see at other low-to-mid-range
SECOND- yes, the performance is good, even better with lollipop, screen looks better now (maybe sonybravia got better, maybe because lollipop has more white in it and the white is being displayed better), but anyway you have to UNDERCLOCK it in order to get a decent battery life
THIRD- battery life is very disappointing, you HAVE to underclock it and root it and greenify it to get any good battery life, unless you can charge it every 12 hours
FOURTH - the device is getting older and so the interest in this device (im talking about support from devs)
FIFTH - the phone gets hot, like really really hot when you're using it playing games (unless you underclock it), and since the back cover is only a adhesive line, when it gets hotter with the help off the Nfc antenna (which is set to push against the backcover) the backcover gets up and looses its waterproofness
SIX- the flaps - the damn flaps- they're everywhere - and you need to open them every-time you charge the phone, put on the headphones, remove the sim, remove the microSD, and they tend to get loose with time especially the one of the charger since you need to charge it frequently
NOW... that I told you about it downsides, its not a bad phone nowdays, it has a big and very beautiful display, connectivity is like the best i've ever tried, performance is pretty good (cpu + gpu ), camera performs really well - especially in macro, dev support for now is good.
Overall for someone who has it I think it can take another one or two years, but I personally would not buy it unless I find it for cheap or cannot buy a used phone. Personally I would look into a HTC M8 or a LG G3, maybe even used.
You decide
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What can I say...
FIRST- if you're buying it for $100 or less maybe it is till a good deal, otherwise maybe it is better to see at other low-to-mid-range
SECOND- yes, the performance is good, even better with lollipop, screen looks better now (maybe sonybravia got better, maybe because lollipop has more white in it and the white is being displayed better), but anyway you have to UNDERCLOCK it in order to get a decent battery life
THIRD- battery life is very disappointing, you HAVE to underclock it and root it and greenify it to get any good battery life, unless you can charge it every 12 hours
FOURTH - the device is getting older and so the interest in this device (im talking about support from devs)
FIFTH - the phone gets hot, like really really hot when you're using it playing games (unless you underclock it), and since the back cover is only a adhesive line, when it gets hotter with the help off the Nfc antenna (which is set to push against the backcover) the backcover gets up and looses its waterproofness
SIX- the flaps - the damn flaps- they're everywhere - and you need to open them every-time you charge the phone, put on the headphones, remove the sim, remove the microSD, and they tend to get loose with time especially the one of the charger since you need to charge it frequently
NOW... that I told you about it downsides, its not a bad phone nowdays, it has a big and very beautiful display, connectivity is like the best i've ever tried, performance is pretty good (cpu + gpu ), camera performs really well - especially in macro, dev support for now is good.
Overall for someone who has it I think it can take another one or two years, but I personally would not buy it unless I find it for cheap or cannot buy a used phone. Personally I would look into a HTC M8 or a LG G3, maybe even used.
You decide
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Thank you so much for your elaborated answer You really made me think about it.
FIRST- it costs me about $160(in a very good condition) and I really can't pay any more than this for a smartphone. It's actually a pretty good deal for what it normally costs in my country. If you/somebody could recommend me a better phone for this price point(taking into consideration the development community)...
SECOND- good to know.
THIRD- well I have to say it sounds dissapointing. Underclocking...doesn't sound that good to me... although I'd have no problem using greenify. 12 hours with 4g on? What's the usage?(heavy...moderate...)
FOURTH- this is the first thing I look when looking for an android device. If it doesn't allow custom ROMs and doesn't have a decent community behind then I don't buy it.
FIFTH- the "gettin really hot" thing sounds also really dissapointin. I'm not a heavy gamer but I do like to play graphic-intensive games from time to time. So is it really that annoing? About the waterproofness... really not important to me.
SIX- pretty annoing huh? Especially the headphones thing. What if you cut them out? You think there'd be any inconvenience on doing this aside from loosing the waterproof thing(and design of course)?
Well... so yeah some bad news for me here. But I can't find a decent phone wich also has community behind for this price. And another which makes me go for it are the 2GB of RAM.
So I wait for some other answers too guys
Also read my first post's EDIT.
Buying today XZ is stupid... seriously.
When I bought my XZ price of Z1compact was almost the same and it still is, its 20$-30$ difference for most of time(New XZ cost about 180$ z1c 200$)
And for that price you can buy WAY better phones, starting from Galaxy S4 to LG G series. And you want to stick to Sony you can get even z1 or used z2
As far as I love this phone I would not recommend it to anyone, battery is below average, camera is worst than my old Arc S, and those cover flaps are pain in the A##
This is best example of phone that look good, but those small bugs in everyday usage make it annoying to use...
And yes I still use it :] Because after using new phones... I found out that most of them are the same: average battery, and looots of small bugs that make them annoying after some time. So I decide to change phones once per 3-4 years...
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For that price NO! Performance with LP is good, camera not so good even with LP. Didnt have issues with overheating, connectivity is good. Screen and colors looks pretty nice for me.
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Thank you so much for your elaborated answer You really made me think about it.
FIRST- it costs me about $160(in a very good condition) and I really can't pay any more than this for a smartphone. It's actually a pretty good deal for what it normally costs in my country. If you/somebody could recommend me a better phone for this price point(taking into consideration the development community)...
SECOND- good to know.
THIRD- well I have to say it sounds dissapointing. Underclocking...doesn't sound that good to me... although I'd have no problem using greenify. 12 hours with 4g on? What's the usage?(heavy...moderate...)
FOURTH- this is the first thing I look when looking for an android device. If it doesn't allow custom ROMs and doesn't have a decent community behind then I don't buy it.
FIFTH- the "gettin really hot" thing sounds also really dissapointin. I'm not a heavy gamer but I do like to play graphic-intensive games from time to time. So is it really that annoing? About the waterproofness... really not important to me.
SIX- pretty annoing huh? Especially the headphones thing. What if you cut them out? You think there'd be any inconvenience on doing this aside from loosing the waterproof thing(and design of course)?
Well... so yeah some bad news for me here. But I can't find a decent phone wich also has community behind for this price. And another which makes me go for it are the 2GB of RAM.
So I wait for some other answers too guys
Also read my first post's EDIT.
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Well,
ONE - if you want a phone with good Dev community support and with that budget you'll have to take a look at ex-flagship devices, like HTC One M7 (this one remains IMHO one of the best devices ever), LG G2(very good camera from what I've been told, and powerful cpu), Samsung Galaxy S4(well because it is a Samsung and everybody has one so many developers...)
THREE - Underclock means you lower the frequency of the Cpu (example. it goes from 1.5 Ghz quad-core to 1.1 Ghz quad-core), I like more uncerclock than greenify, and underclocking at 1.1 Ghz in my opinion gives the best performance/battery life/heat ratio. Usage is normal, 1 hour browsing; 1 hour listening to songs (in 3g, even when 4g is available I disable it); 1 hour 9gag and gets at evening with 30-35%...
FOUR - many custom roms for now, and quality is really good, im using currently the 5.1.1 modified and runs pretty good.
FIVE- when you underclock (which I recommend!) you give your device better battery life but also it heats less. If you don't mind the waterproofness then it's better because I wouldn't call Waterproof a really thin bezel of adhesive (They're crazy !!!)
SIX- yeah, they're annoying but anyway you can live with that, and design is really good and would be a shame if you removed them.
So my list woud be;
1.Htc One m7
2.Lg g2
3.Samsung S4 or Xperia Z
(and btw where do you live? maybe i can see smth for you)
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For that price NO! Performance with LP is good, camera not so good even with LP. Didnt have issues with overheating, connectivity is good. Screen and colors looks pretty nice for me.
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Well it seems the camera is not that good as I thought. Do you think moto g 2/3 has better camera? Although they only have 1GB or RAM.
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Well it seems the camera is not that good as I thought. Do you think moto g 2/3 has better camera? Although they only have 1GB or RAM.
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As an XZ owner i would definitely recommend you to go with Moto G2/3. Beside better camera there will be MM support for both the 2gen and 3gen Moto, while not for XZ.
aaronkatrini said:
Well,
ONE - if you want a phone with good Dev community support and with that budget you'll have to take a look at ex-flagship devices, like HTC One M7 (this one remains IMHO one of the best devices ever), LG G2(very good camera from what I've been told, and powerful cpu), Samsung Galaxy S4(well because it is a Samsung and everybody has one so many developers...)
THREE - Underclock means you lower the frequency of the Cpu (example. it goes from 1.5 Ghz quad-core to 1.1 Ghz quad-core), I like more uncerclock than greenify, and underclocking at 1.1 Ghz in my opinion gives the best performance/battery life/heat ratio. Usage is normal, 1 hour browsing; 1 hour listening to songs (in 3g, even when 4g is available I disable it); 1 hour 9gag and gets at evening with 30-35%...
FOUR - many custom roms for now, and quality is really good, im using currently the 5.1.1 modified and runs pretty good.
FIVE- when you underclock (which I recommend!) you give your device better battery life but also it heats less. If you don't mind the waterproofness then it's better because I wouldn't call Waterproof a really thin bezel of adhesive (They're crazy !!!)
SIX- yeah, they're annoying but anyway you can live with that, and design is really good and would be a shame if you removed them.
So my list woud be;
1.Htc One m7
2.Lg g2
3.Samsung S4 or Xperia Z
(and btw where do you live? maybe i can see smth for you)
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It seems the decision is getting harder and harder, although I already bought it because I don't wanna loose the deal. It's not available anymore at this price after buying it. I'm waiting for it to arrive in about two days I'll test it and if it doesn't satisfy me I'll return it.
ONE - Those devices are about $50 more expensive.
THREE - Maybe underclock could do the job, but will it still run smooth at lets say 1.2ghz? Anyway I think for the usage you described the battery doesn't sound that bad.
FOUR - Yeah, I'm looking at the hacking section and I'm stunned
FIVE - well, I'll happily underclock it if it doesn't affect performance too much. Maybe setting to the normal clock when gaming. And for the waterproofness thing... I'm shocked Anyway... I don't mind.
SIX - I guess...
From those devices you mentioned the only one I can afford is the Xperia Z. I really can't pay more than that for a device.
So, do you think I should buy a low end device from this or last year like the moto g 2014? I'm scared of the 1GB of RAM.
I live in Spain and price is a bit high here in Europe. I can buy from Amazon.es/fr/de/it... but I think I only have two options: buy a low-end device with no support from community or an exflagship device with support like the Xperia Z. I also think having 2GB of RAM is important right? I can't spend more than 150€/$160... ad I guess I'm asking too much from a device for this price. I really appreciate your help.
icrunchbanger said:
As an XZ owner i would definitely recommend you to go with Moto G2/3. Beside better camera there will be MM support for both the 2gen and 3gen Moto, while not for XZ.
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Isn't 1GB of RAM too low nowadays?
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Buying today XZ is stupid... seriously.
When I bought my XZ price of Z1compact was almost the same and it still is, its 20$-30$ difference for most of time(New XZ cost about 180$ z1c 200$)
And for that price you can buy WAY better phones, starting from Galaxy S4 to LG G series. And you want to stick to Sony you can get even z1 or used z2
As far as I love this phone I would not recommend it to anyone, battery is below average, camera is worst than my old Arc S, and those cover flaps are pain in the A##
This is best example of phone that look good, but those small bugs in everyday usage make it annoying to use...
And yes I still use it :] Because after using new phones... I found out that most of them are the same: average battery, and looots of small bugs that make them annoying after some time. So I decide to change phones once per 3-4 years...
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Unfortunately I can't afford those devices. I barely can afford the Xperia Z because I found a good deal.
MultiPDev said:
Isn't 1GB of RAM too low nowadays?
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It all depends of usage but i wouldn't worry about it so much. Motorola comes with almost pure Android.
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It all depends of usage but i wouldn't worry about it so much. Motorola comes with almost pure Android.
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Thanks, I'm considering the moto g 2.
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Thanks, I'm considering the moto g 2.
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Moto G (2nd generation) doesn't stand a chance to Xperia Z!
XZ has better specs, better screen, better CPU, more Ram, more internal memory ecc.
Yes, the Moto G (2nd generation) is being updated to Marshmallow but really with all the support from the Dev's we can still get unofficial AOSP Marshmallow Roms.
PS.: one more thing, I currently live in Italy and in big cities it is really easy to find used phones from people that sell them at a local website. I've been checking the prices for some time because I wanted to get a better phone and phones like the LG G3 go as low as 200 euro. Htc One M7 can be found for 150 euro in really good condition, one thing is that you don't have warranty, only if they give you the bill of the phone, then it is as you had bought it(be careful though not giving you a printed bill from the internet.) if you can live with that, that would get you a really good phone with low money.
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Moto G (2nd generation) doesn't stand a chance to Xperia Z!
XZ has better specs, better screen, better CPU, more Ram, more internal memory ecc.
Yes, the Moto G (2nd generation) is being updated to Marshmallow but really with all the support from the Dev's we can still get unofficial AOSP Marshmallow Roms.
PS.: one more thing, I currently live in Italy and in big cities it is really easy to find used phones from people that sell them at a local website. I've been checking the prices for some time because I wanted to get a better phone and phones like the LG G3 go as low as 200 euro. Htc One M7 can be found for 150 euro in really good condition, one thing is that you don't have warranty, only if they give you the bill of the phone, then it is as you had bought it(be careful though not giving you a printed bill from the internet.) if you can live with that, that would get you a really good phone with low money.
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Yeah, XZ specs are really impressive for me, but the problems mentioned worry me. The screen seems a bit poor to me from what I read. Maybe the Moto G has a better screen and battery(camera also? I doubt it). Anyway... the XZ is on its way and I can't wait to test it!!!
The biggest problem I have with buying a used phone from people is, aside from the warranty- which is also important, the fact that I can't return it if it doesn't satisfy me. Thank God for Amazon!! lol :victory:
Hey what about speakers sound?
Yeah amazon has its benefits.
Sound speakers? Hah! That tiny little thing that barely makes a sound? ?
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Yeah amazon has its benefits.
Sound speakers? Hah! That tiny little thing that barely makes a sound? ��
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Disappointing. It seems the device has lots of flaws.
MultiPDev said:
Unfortunately I can't afford those devices. I barely can afford the Xperia Z because I found a good deal.
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In that case welcome to the club
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In that case welcome to the club
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Thanks buddy I hope I stay here for long
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What can I say...
FIRST- if you're buying it for $100 or less maybe it is till a good deal, otherwise maybe it is better to see at other low-to-mid-range
SECOND- yes, the performance is good, even better with lollipop, screen looks better now (maybe sonybravia got better, maybe because lollipop has more white in it and the white is being displayed better), but anyway you have to UNDERCLOCK it in order to get a decent battery life
THIRD- battery life is very disappointing, you HAVE to underclock it and root it and greenify it to get any good battery life, unless you can charge it every 12 hours
FOURTH - the device is getting older and so the interest in this device (im talking about support from devs)
FIFTH - the phone gets hot, like really really hot when you're using it playing games (unless you underclock it), and since the back cover is only a adhesive line, when it gets hotter with the help off the Nfc antenna (which is set to push against the backcover) the backcover gets up and looses its waterproofness
SIX- the flaps - the damn flaps- they're everywhere - and you need to open them every-time you charge the phone, put on the headphones, remove the sim, remove the microSD, and they tend to get loose with time especially the one of the charger since you need to charge it frequently
NOW... that I told you about it downsides, its not a bad phone nowdays, it has a big and very beautiful display, connectivity is like the best i've ever tried, performance is pretty good (cpu + gpu ), camera performs really well - especially in macro, dev support for now is good.
Overall for someone who has it I think it can take another one or two years, but I personally would not buy it unless I find it for cheap or cannot buy a used phone. Personally I would look into a HTC M8 or a LG G3, maybe even used.
You decide
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in my country a NEW xperia z costs around 280-300 euro, i think people still prefer it
I am getting depressed reading this forum. Seems every other thread is a moan about the Note 8.
I understand its 'normal' to join a forum to ask questions and indeed have an occasional rant BUT there used to be a balance going way back of praise and moans. Not the case these days?
I find the Note 8 a superb mobile device, even more accomplished than both my beloved and missed Note 7's.
We are never going to encounter the perfect device, there will always be room for improvement and as time passes technology generally advances and we receive even more accomplished smart phones. Such advancement should never end meaning perfection will always be a goal and never achievable.
When I hold my Note 8 and think back just 10 years to when the first smartphone was introduced...there is zero comparison and I hope the next 10 years will produce the same result's. Until then I am going to enjoy my Note 8 despite all the negatives here and on Youtube etc. There is an awful lot of 'sour grapes' in the world of technology and its getting worse.
I say well done to Samsung. The Note 8 is a marvel of technology. Oh and those who purchase it and don't use the S-pen please see some Youtube clips of the functionality of the pen, its just amazing and should be utilised to be appreciated.
One happy customer. :good::good::good:
Ryland
If you're looking for a Note 8 lovefest, there's always r/GalaxyNote8. I think the people at xda are quite a bit more demanding and well-informed, though, so the ratio of complaints to praise is simply going to be higher.
My only complaint is that the s-pen dock isn't on the left, since I'm a southpaw
Dodge DeBoulet said:
If you're looking for a Note 8 lovefest, there's always r/GalaxyNote8. I think the people at xda are quite a bit more demanding and well-informed, though, so the ratio of complaints to praise is simply going to be higher.
My only complaint is that the s-pen dock isn't on the left, since I'm a southpaw
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"Lovefest" no, balance in posts and some reasonable thinking and fairness, yes. :good:
Sorry you where born a Southpaw, never mind you guys and gals are technically more intelligent than non Southpaws so you still can't have everything though!
Ryland.
Well ****....
I have found out that I have no light bleed,no burn in on nav bar,no malfunction on zoom lense,no factory defect on battery, no stuttering during gallery scrolls and last but not least ,no trouble getting the FP sensor to work.
I kinda see what you mean and was noticing something off. I have been in and out of XDA for awhile and something really has changed. I don't know if it is general negativity or just plain looking and expecting to find something wrong.
I ,however, think this is the best damn phone I have ever had, even better the the Note 7's. I thought I would hate the home key being gone and the FP sensor location , but I love them both now. The auto hide on the nav bar is the bomb! It also feels natural for me the hit the FP sensor lefty or righty and never seem to smudge the camera. My battery life is unbelievable, yesterday alone I took off charger at 5 am and at 10pm I was at 42% with 5 hours screen on time and 6 hours of DI.FM streaming, on Wi-Fi, with fine location on,full resolution and brightness at 80 percent. I have also switched to using the Samsung apps (email,calendar,and internet..) over the Google apps as I find they work alot better for me.
After a week , I really would say that I could see myself running this device 2 years. The note 9 would have to really break the mold to convince me to leave this phone. All of this and it is stock, not rooted.
I think maybe all the negativity will calm down in a month or so. Perhaps it's just the high price that has driven some to find every chance they can to complain because the feel 1000 dollars = perfect.
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I consider your perspective interesting as I was thinking that there didn't seem to be nearly the number of complaints as there always is. No matter what device it is, there are always going to be the standard battery and screen tint threads. They're there, but they don't seem to be blowing up like they usually do. My wife has her phone and I have to say that it has the most evenly lit screen of any electronic device that I've ever seen.
This is a short list of things that I pay attention to when getting a new phone.
Screen tints
Uneven backlighting
Build quality, creakiness, etc...
I am quite sensitive to screen quality issues like uneven backlighting and tints. My Note 4 has always had uneven lighting and is more yellow in the middle of the screen. It's always bugged me, but I know that there's no such thing as a perfect screen and I try to keep in mind when deciding to keep a device.
My biggest complaint so far is that I still don't have it, as FedEx lost it and I'm still waiting for its replacement to come via UPS. When I do get it, I'll use it for a while. If there is something that I don't like about it or consider a deal breaker, I'll just return it and either get something else, or stay on my Note 4. It's just a phone. I'm not tied to my electronic devices. They are tools for me to accomplish things, and nothing else. The way some people talk about these things, you'd think that they gave birth to them.
If you want to see a completely dysfunctional community, take a look at the MacRumors forums. Whenever a new iPhone comes out, I get a big bowl of popcorn and head over there and watch it all unfold. It's a true study in group human behavior. It has been a bit of a letdown this year, so far, because nobody seems to care about the iPhone 8. Might have to hold off on that bowl of popcorn until the X comes out.
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I consider your perspective interesting as I was thinking that there didn't seem to be nearly the number of complaints as there always is. No matter what device it is, there are always going to be the standard battery and screen tint threads. They're there, but they don't seem to be blowing up like they usually do. My wife has her phone and I have to say that it has the most evenly lit screen of any electronic device that I've ever seen.
This is a short list of things that I pay attention to when getting a new phone.
Screen tints
Uneven backlighting
Build quality, creakiness, etc...
I am quite sensitive to screen quality issues like uneven backlighting and tints. My Note 4 has always had uneven lighting and is more yellow in the middle of the screen. It's always bugged me, but I know that there's no such thing as a perfect screen and I try to keep in mind when deciding to keep a device.
My biggest complaint so far is that I still don't have it, as FedEx lost it and I'm still waiting for its replacement to come via UPS. When I do get it, I'll use it for a while. If there is something that I don't like about it or consider a deal breaker, I'll just return it and either get something else, or stay on my Note 4. It's just a phone. I'm not tied to my electronic devices. They are tools for me to accomplish things, and nothing else. The way some people talk about these things, you'd think that they gave birth to them.
If you want to see a completely dysfunctional community, take a look at the MacRumors forums. Whenever a new iPhone comes out, I get a big bowl of popcorn and head over there and watch it all unfold. It's a true study in group human behavior. It has been a bit of a letdown this year, so far, because nobody seems to care about the iPhone 8. Might have to hold off on that bowl of popcorn until the X comes out.
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FedEx lost your phone!!! I trust when they do deliver there will be a missing FedEx driver to equal that score!!
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
FedEx lost your phone!!! I trust when they do deliver there will be a missing FedEx driver to equal that score!!
Ryland
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Yup. This time it was shipped UPS with signature required. Best Buy isn't taking any chances this time around.
I agree. This is the best phone I've ever owned. I was nervous leaving the Pixel (previously was my favorite) but no regrets AT ALL!
Ryland Johnson said:
I am getting depressed reading this forum. Seems every other thread is a moan about the Note 8.
I find the Note 8 a superb mobile device, even more accomplished than both my beloved and missed Note 7's.
There is an awful lot of 'sour grapes' in the world of technology and its getting worse.
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I find you'll live a much more enriched life if you don't spend so much time lamenting the negative opinions of others about something that you enjoy, yourself. Okay, there's many folks moaning about this or that, how is that meant to apply to your personal experience? How is that meant to intrude into your own enjoyment of YOUR device?
I strongly suggest you needn't concern yourself with how negatively others view the phone that you are enjoying thoroughly. Screw that noise and enjoy your new phone. Seriously, life is too short to dwell on such nonsense. You like the phone? Awesome, let those sour grapes continue moaning on whilst you continue having fun using your new phone.
Personally, I use these forums to seek advice on various topics dealing with the phone that I'm currently using and to lend my support wherever I'm able to. I try not to spend any real amount of time engaging in pointless discussion about whether or not this phone is great or if this other phone is better or what kind of phone other people should be using in place of this one. It's all nonsense.
Do you, boo boo. Do you and be happy with what you got.
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Yea, every launch is this way. It's worse for truly bad phones!
This is better than the 7 which was my favorite phone of all time. By no means perfect but worth being happy about.
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Yea, every launch is this way. It's worse for truly bad phones!
This is better than the 7 which was my favorite phone of all time. By no means perfect but worth being happy about.
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Exactly. I follow most flagship device launches and compared to many that I've seen, this is tame. There's a combination of valid complaints and imagined issues here, just like with every phone. It just seems like there aren't as many complaints as I usually see.
Ryland Johnson said:
I am getting depressed reading this forum. Seems every other thread is a moan about the Note 8.
I understand its 'normal' to join a forum to ask questions and indeed have an occasional rant BUT there used to be a balance going way back of praise and moans. Not the case these days?
I find the Note 8 a superb mobile device, even more accomplished than both my beloved and missed Note 7's.
We are never going to encounter the perfect device, there will always be room for improvement and as time passes technology generally advances and we receive even more accomplished smart phones. Such advancement should never end meaning perfection will always be a goal and never achievable.
When I hold my Note 8 and think back just 10 years to when the first smartphone was introduced...there is zero comparison and I hope the next 10 years will produce the same result's. Until then I am going to enjoy my Note 8 despite all the negatives here and on Youtube etc. There is an awful lot of 'sour grapes' in the world of technology and its getting worse.
I say well done to Samsung. The Note 8 is a marvel of technology. Oh and those who purchase it and don't use the S-pen please see some Youtube clips of the functionality of the pen, its just amazing and should be utilised to be appreciated.
One happy customer. :good::good::good:
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XDA, "land of the Whiners"...
If you've been here awhile, you learn to just ignore them, and/or you just dont come around for a few weeks/months/years, and you forget how it is for awhile..
I agree with you, this is a great phone, and I stopped looking for every little nit picky thing years ago when it comes to cell phones; these are a mass produced piece of electronics, NOT a custom built nuclear reactor, and to think they are going to be 1000% perfect without flaws is just silly..
Well... If they were to make me the lead designer and give me the corporate clout to make it stick I'm pretty sure I could make a phone that was 72% perfect. I want stuff that hasn't been invented yet!
Seriously though how many people do you know that wouldn't rather have a phone a few millimeters thicker and more battery? This isn't just a shot at the Note8, most people I know use cases not just because of the drop protection but because they're getting too thin to hold comfortably nowadays. There was a time when I was all over thin but I'm over it, in fact over it is a ways behind me now. And honestly, dual speakers, yeah. You can make the earpiece a speaker like others have done and greatly improve sound for a few cents. We're not talking about making a resonant chamber, adding a sub, just up the ante a few cents on the call speaker and we've got a lot more sound. This is a 1k smartphone not a Wally World on sale flip where single speakers belong. Do I even need to mention the fingerprint scanner location? What a slap in the face. I'm running Samsung and whoever suggested that would have been pulled out of the meeting by a couple of great big security guards who would have unceremoniously threw him or her to the curb making sure to hit his or her head on every object along the way. Then while laying on the curb they would have kicked them where it hurts until there was absolutely no way they could ever breed. If they had bred someone would have to be sent out to their house to do what was necessary to protect the human gene pool.
Oh, BTW, I'm happy with the phone. If it wasn't for the fingerprint scanner I would probably keep it for some time, maybe as long as the spring releases. Phones have become very good now so I don't feel much reason to upgrade every time something new comes along like I used to do. On the other hand the fingerprint scanner is a major irritant to me. I don't like rear scanners in the first place because I often use my phone on the desk where they obviously don't work without picking up the phone. Iris and facial don't work there either. I could get over that if at least it was placed decently and worked well when I'm out and about but it isn't and doesn't work as well or as quickly as a yesterdays tech One+ that cost less than half as much.
Bottom line, it's the best phone money can buy despite it's flaws. I just hope that every person who approved the fingerprint scanner placement all the way up the line found themselves on the curb, neutered, and without work.
yeah, I hate anything back there; I got rid of a couple LG phones for that same reason; I dont like ANYTHING except the camera lens on back...
And, yeah, they should have put stereo speakers on this thing, unless there is some engineering reason for it, and a bigger battery would have made more sense..
Frankly, I think most of these electronic mfgs eventually add most of the things people complain about; there is a SD card slot on this phone now, after the uproar when they dropped it.
Maybe the note 9 will have stereo speakers, and the note 10 will have a larger battery..I'm sure the plans for the next releases have already been somewhat finalized, so time will tell.
Hello, my Nexus 5X has bootlooped for the second time and I'm on my second version. Sort of getting sick of this and looking for a new 4.5-5" screen phone. I was looking at the X Compact or XZ1 Compact. My biggest qualifier for what I want in a phone is something that is rootable where I can run Adblock to block ads. I don't really mind about anything else, I just don't want to see ads. I was wondering what the current status is on unlocking bootloader, rooting, and running rooted on the Sony XZ1 Compact? I appreciate any information, thank you.
Well, first of all, if u r really interested in an Xperia, u can can forget the easy life of modding of a Nexus. Not that is impossible but no near at levels of a Nexus, One Plus, Motorola or Pixels...
I'm sure sooner or later it will be possibile to Root without losing our Drm keys, but it will be a pain in the ass. At least compared at what u r used to with your Nexus.
And by the way, there are no-root ways for your ads problem...
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Well, first of all, if u r really interested in an Xperia, u can can forget the easy life of modding of a Nexus. Not that is impossible but no near at levels of a Nexus, One Plus, Motorola or Pixels...
I'm sure sooner or later it will be possibile to Root without losing our Drm keys, but it will be a pain in the ass. At least compared at what u r used to with your Nexus.
And by the way, there are no-root ways for your ads problem...
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Ah, I see. I was just reading about the DRM Keys problem. And right now there's no way to Root, Install F Droid, Install Adaway? I know development is probably in the early stage, since the phone is relatively new. Maybe I should check back in a few months
There's a beta release of LineageOS, and it has a DRM patch (so everything should be working). If you still want to stay stock, try DNS66. It's not as good as Adaway, but it's better than nothing...
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There's a beta release of LineageOS, and it has a DRM patch (so everything should be working). If you still want to stay stock, try DNS66. It's not as good as Adaway, but it's better than nothing...
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... Or adguard
hello guys ....few questions here .... as im still on Z3C at the moment planing to get a XZ1C so i cannot test myself these...yet
Can this substratum theme change the battery icon to something like the one on the stock LP or MM .... i think is the best looking icon (with included + for stamina ) not the stock android one ???
are the quick settings customable ? like the on on zc3 xposed seraj mods ? or even close ?
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hello guys ....few questions here .... as im still on Z3C at the moment planing to get a XZ1C so i cannot test myself these...yet
Can this substratum theme change the battery icon to something like the one on the stock LP or MM .... i think is the best looking icon (with included + for stamina ) not the stock android one ???
are the quick settings customable ? like the on on zc3 xposed seraj mods ? or even close ?
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Is the colour of the battery icon your top consideration before buying this phone ?:laugh:
no, but since this phone cannot be properly rooted yet (TA backups and whole stuff) i want to know what are the available customization option
and i tend to stick as much as possible with a familial layout..
C;mon dont tell me you like the stock android battery more than sony one ... and you would not use it if it was available
so ... is this doable via stratum ? how about the quick settings dropdown ?
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no, but since this phone cannot be properly rooted yet (TA backups and whole stuff) i want to know what are the available customization option
and i tend to stick as much as possible with a familial layout..
C;mon dont tell me you like the stock android battery more than sony one ... and you would not use it if it was available
so ... is this doable via stratum ? how about the quick settings dropdown ?
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I use Substratum, yes, I'm pretty sure you can get a mod for your battery if you look, but it's not something I've even thought about.
Yes, you can customise your quicksettings.
Ok, thanks for the info....
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Has anyone had the oportunity to compare XZ1C vs XC SOT?
I am thinking in replacing my stupid Galaxy S8 and get a smaller phone.
Trying to decide between XC or XZ1C. I simply loved the battery life of my good old Z3 Compact
Thank you.
Hansoliv said:
Good day.
Has anyone had the oportunity to compare XZ1C vs XC SOT?
I am thinking in replacing my stupid Galaxy S8 and get a smaller phone.
Trying to decide between XC or XZ1C. I simply loved the battery life of my good old Z3 Compact
Thank you.
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Not sure about the X compact, but I'm loving the battery on my XZ1 compact. Easily 7 hours SOT over a full day of use with no power saving options enabled. Probably more if I turned off location/used stamina mode. I had a oneplus 3t before that got half the battery life with the same usage. The XZ1 compact is more powerful with higher end features and will be supported longer by Sony, I'd recommend getting it over the older model if you can afford it.
Hansoliv said:
Good day.
Has anyone had the oportunity to compare XZ1C vs XC SOT?
I am thinking in replacing my stupid Galaxy S8 and get a smaller phone.
Trying to decide between XC or XZ1C. I simply loved the battery life of my good old Z3 Compact
Thank you.
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For me the xz1c have the best battery life i ever had, I have 6h sot and 48h standby with only one charge. I used it as normally, some social media aps, all-time WiFi on, location off and adaptive screenlight, chrome for internet browsing and something like that. I really like the xz1c !
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Good day.
Has anyone had the oportunity to compare XZ1C vs XC SOT?
I am thinking in replacing my stupid Galaxy S8 and get a smaller phone.
Trying to decide between XC or XZ1C. I simply loved the battery life of my good old Z3 Compact
Thank you.
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Haven't compared XZ1C and XC but on my XZ1C I can quite comfortably hit 7.5-8.5h SoT on a full charge over a days worth of use or about 12-13 hours. That's a really heavy hitter day for me.
But due to habit of plugging my phone in every night and taking my usage patterns into mind, I haven't had many "two day cycles" since getting the XZ1C to say anything definitive but with 36-48h standby times you should be able to get to the 5h SoT mark or beyond..
As far as the XC vs XZ1C goes, I wouldn't even bother with the XC if the XZ1C is on sale or for a competetive price.
I bought mine for 399€ with VAT or, funnily enough, about 399$ without VAT. At original asking price of 599€, I wouldn't have even considered buying this.
Seeing that you're from Portugal, you should be seeing similar prices as Europe does in general, XC should be around 270-300€ while XZ1C around 360-400€.
I don't know your financial situation but in my opinion the 100 euros or so you save by buying the XC instead of XZ1C isn't worth it. XZ1C came straight with Oreo so Treble out of the box which means updates will be somewhat easier for Sony in the future.
I don't know if XC got Treble when it got Oreo but highly unlikely as even the XZ's didn't get it (yeah, I know, it's optional for devices updating to Oreo). And it started from Marshmallow. Will it get Android P? I'm not gonna hold my breath, it has already seen it's two major Android version updates which seems to be the standard. And at this point it is already 18 months into the usual 24 month support cycle we see with Android phones.
Another thing to keep in mind is that the XC has the SD650..
It's built on an aging 28nm HPm manufacturing process where as the SD835 in the XZ1C is built on a much newer 10nm manufacturing process which is more efficient.
Then there's the less obvious stuff: SD650 uses LPDDR3 while SD835 uses LPDDR4X. Guess what, LPDDR4X is much more efficient.
As well as eMMC vs UFS. UFS obviously has higher performance but with it comes better efficiency as well.
Just for reference, you can take a look at Futuremark's database, in particular the PCMark Work 2.0 numbers.
https://www.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/Sony+Xperia+XZ1+Compact/review
https://www.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/Sony+Xperia+X+Compact/review
Take the battery life numbers with lots of salt as people run the benchmark at different screen brightnesses and so on. But comparing these two to each other isn't that bad all things considered but still, take them with at least a grain of salt.
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lagittaja said:
As far as the XC vs XZ1C goes, I wouldn't even bother with the XC if the XZ1C is on sale or for a competetive price.
I bought mine for 399€ with VAT or, funnily enough, about 399$ without VAT. At original asking price of 599€, I wouldn't have even considered buying this.
Seeing that you're from Portugal, you should be seeing similar prices as Europe does in general, XC should be around 270-300€ while XZ1C around 360-400€.
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Just bought mine here in the US, at 430$ to replace my Samsung S7. Can't wait.
lagittaja said:
Haven't compared XZ1C and XC but on my XZ1C I can quite comfortably hit 7.5-8.5h SoT on a full charge over a days worth of use or about 12-13 hours. That's a really heavy hitter day for me.
But due to habit of plugging my phone in every night and taking my usage patterns into mind, I haven't had many "two day cycles" since getting the XZ1C to say anything definitive but with 36-48h standby times you should be able to get to the 5h SoT mark or beyond..
As far as the XC vs XZ1C goes, I wouldn't even bother with the XC if the XZ1C is on sale or for a competetive price.
I bought mine for 399€ with VAT or, funnily enough, about 399$ without VAT. At original asking price of 599€, I wouldn't have even considered buying this.
Seeing that you're from Portugal, you should be seeing similar prices as Europe does in general, XC should be around 270-300€ while XZ1C around 360-400€.
I don't know your financial situation but in my opinion the 100 euros or so you save by buying the XC instead of XZ1C isn't worth it. XZ1C came straight with Oreo so Treble out of the box which means updates will be somewhat easier for Sony in the future.
I don't know if XC got Treble when it got Oreo but highly unlikely as even the XZ's didn't get it (yeah, I know, it's optional for devices updating to Oreo). And it started from Marshmallow. Will it get Android P? I'm not gonna hold my breath, it has already seen it's two major Android version updates which seems to be the standard. And at this point it is already 18 months into the usual 24 month support cycle we see with Android phones.
Another thing to keep in mind is that the XC has the SD650..
It's built on an aging 28nm HPm manufacturing process where as the SD835 in the XZ1C is built on a much newer 10nm manufacturing process which is more efficient.
Then there's the less obvious stuff: SD650 uses LPDDR3 while SD835 uses LPDDR4X. Guess what, LPDDR4X is much more efficient.
As well as eMMC vs UFS. UFS obviously has higher performance but with it comes better efficiency as well.
Just for reference, you can take a look at Futuremark's database, in particular the PCMark Work 2.0 numbers.
https://www.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/Sony+Xperia+XZ1+Compact/review
https://www.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/Sony+Xperia+X+Compact/review
Take the battery life numbers with lots of salt as people run the benchmark at different screen brightnesses and so on. But comparing these two to each other isn't that bad all things considered but still, take them with at least a grain of salt.
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WOOW!
That is a very nice answer! No arguments against such detailed answer. Thank you.
I have no financial issues, came from a galaxy S8 and was happy with it quality wise, but found that the device is too big for my hand.
I decided i'm buying the xZ1C (it's arround 650€ in Portugal), but i'm afraid if i'm going to be disappointed with the quality of the phone.
With my Z3C had problems with the speaker and the screen, and don't want that anymore.
I'm no Samsung fanboy, and for me, Samsung is like Apple, a trend hype, but with Samsung phones never had any hardware problem.
I'm not a heavy user, some social apps, half an hour of browsing and gaming.
And it seems that xZ1C will be the last compact phone i'll buy. xZ2C is larger and thicker.
Hansoliv said:
WOOW!
That is a very nice answer! No arguments against such detailed answer. Thank you.
I have no financial issues, came from a galaxy S8 and was happy with it quality wise, but found that the device is too big for my hand.
I decided i'm buying the xZ1C (it's arround 650€ in Portugal), but i'm afraid if i'm going to be disappointed with the quality of the phone.
With my Z3C had problems with the speaker and the screen, and don't want that anymore.
I'm no Samsung fanboy, and for me, Samsung is like Apple, a trend hype, but with Samsung phones never had any hardware problem.
I'm not a heavy user, some social apps, half an hour of browsing and gaming.
And it seems that xZ1C will be the last compact phone i'll buy. xZ2C is larger and thicker.
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No sense paying 650 EUR for XZ1C.
You can register in Amazon.de (most of amazon.de page can be selected in English or may be Spain has it's own amazon.is?) and buy for 369-420EUR (need to sort which seller will be delivering to Portugal. 420 EUR is amazon.de selling themselves and they normally deliver all over EU). That will add another 20-30 EUR max.
I am from z3 compact. The screen is much better on XZ1C (bought from amazon.de and delivered to Lithuania). I even would say close to Samsung Amoleds...
I will hi-jack this thread only to ask two things.
How is the overall performance of this device?
I am currently using an Axon 7 and loving it but I feel like the SOT and size isn't optimal for me overall.
I tend to listen to music around 2-4 hours a day and have data on so I can surf the web, which is usually 1-2 through the whole day and lastly I tend to play simple games via retroarch and Fate Grand Order.
So basically SoT for me is 3h at best or 2h. Battery life tends to dip very fast when I have a game ongoing or listen to music+data on.
cirnocirno said:
I will hi-jack this thread only to ask two things.
How is the overall performance of this device?
I am currently using an Axon 7 and loving it but I feel like the SOT and size isn't optimal for me overall.
I tend to listen to music around 2-4 hours a day and have data on so I can surf the web, which is usually 1-2 through the whole day and lastly I tend to play simple games via retroarch and Fate Grand Order.
So basically SoT for me is 3h at best or 2h. Battery life tends to dip very fast when I have a game ongoing or listen to music+data on.
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Good day.
For what i have tried in a retail store, comparing with my old galaxy S8, XZ1C is faster and snappier
See this site for an benchmark comparison (https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8067&idPhone2=8610)
This is mostly about the popularity of the phone and the support of the community.
Do you expect that there will still be custom roms for Mi 8 in 2-3 years?
I really like this phone and I can buy it in excellent condition for 180-200 euros.
But if there's not enough support from the community it's useless.
Cheers!
djuka007 said:
This is mostly about the popularity of the phone and the support of the community.
Do you expect that there will still be custom roms for Mi 8 in 2-3 years?
I really like this phone and I can buy it in excellent condition for 180-200 euros.
But if there's not enough support from the community it's useless.
Cheers!
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I bought a used one couple weeks ago in perfect condition (couldnt find even a small scratch on the back) and less than a year old for 130 euros. So 180-200 euros are way too much
If the condition of the battery is ok, then you will definitely have a great experience with the phone. Great screen, great performance and great camera
t-shock said:
I bought a used one couple weeks ago in perfect condition (couldnt find even a small scratch on the back) and less than a year old for 130 euros. So 180-200 euros are way too much
If the condition of the battery is ok, then you will definitely have a great experience with the phone. Great screen, great performance and great camera
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At that price it's definitely a no brainier but I don't have anything remotely cheap on offer.
Still suggest buy other phone cause of mi8 battery capacity really small
If you comes from phone can holds from morning until your bed time/night without charging, this phone isn't for you.
The downside of this phone is the battery, other than that, if you wouldn't mind charging 2 times a day. I recommend you this phone.
gefrost7 said:
If you comes from phone can holds from morning until your bed time/night without charging, this phone isn't for you.
The downside of this phone is the battery, other than that, if you wouldn't mind charging 2 times a day. I recommend you this phone.
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Maybe I'm not typical - but at the moment, I can get three days between charges. Even when I'm away to the office, I could get 2 days.
lybad said:
Maybe I'm not typical - but at the moment, I can get three days between charges. Even when I'm away to the office, I could get 2 days.
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yeah it depends on your usage and battery condition, my phone is 2 y.o and battery condition is about 60% holding max charge about 2096 mAh, my usage is social media and messaging app, data and wifi always connected. average total standby from 100 - 20% is 12-14 Hrs, with SoT 3-4Hrs. (can be worse if you using data only) So I should charge it 1 times more to last for one day. I don't complain much about the battery because my previous device has a small battery too.
I still have more than 3 hours of OST on my S4 which is 6 years old (with original battery), so that's a really bad result.
Do you have any other suggestions of a 845/855 with OIS camera setup?
The only thing that comes to mind in the price range of 200 euros is Mi Mix 3 (if you can find it for that money in good condition).
Newer generations - Mi9/pro or mi 9t pro are more expensive but only have EIS
go for it. I bought my mi8 in oct 2018 (so 2 yo now) and still hit 6h of sot (xiaomi.eu rom, on Paranoid android even better). I only use the QC in emergency, always used a normal 1.5a charger and my battery is just fine. snapdragon 845 is strong, we don't need to launch a nasa rocket lol
I think its a great phone, I have it for about a half a year now, had samsung s9 plus (exynos) before. I have offical Lineage on Mi8 and it works great. I miss two things on this phone (wireless charging and 90hz display). I think battery life is much better than samsung s9 plus. Speed of the phone is completely sufficient, I have like 100+ apps on it and works completly fine, and camera is superb. I have google camera installed on it and it makes great photos - in theory it has almost google pixel picture quality (it has the same sensor as the new Pixel5). I think its like the most complete good phone experience for 200€, if you are prepared to put in a bit of work (lineage, gcam), and I have high hopes for support because there are some projects supporting android 11, hopefully we will se lineage 18 on Mi8.
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djuka007 said:
This is mostly about the popularity of the phone and the support of the community.
Do you expect that there will still be custom roms for Mi 8 in 2-3 years?
I really like this phone and I can buy it in excellent condition for 180-200 euros.
But if there's not enough support from the community it's useless.
Cheers!
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Go on and join to xiaomi_dipper on telegram
gefrost7 said:
If you comes from phone can holds from morning until your bed time/night without charging, this phone isn't for you.
The downside of this phone is the battery, other than that, if you wouldn't mind charging 2 times a day. I recommend you this phone.
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gefrost7 said:
yeah it depends on your usage and battery condition, my phone is 2 y.o and battery condition is about 60% holding max charge about 2096 mAh, my usage is social media and messaging app, data and wifi always connected. average total standby from 100 - 20% is 12-14 Hrs, with SoT 3-4Hrs. (can be worse if you using data only) So I should charge it 1 times more to last for one day. I don't complain much about the battery because my previous device has a small battery too.
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I have then same usage as you, but i charge it every 2 days, I bought mine on jan 2019
ItalianWolf said:
I have then same usage as you, but i charge it every 2 days, I bought mine on jan 2019
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hmmm didn't sure what's wrong, but it's used anyway, the previous user is a heavy mobile gamer, so no wonder the battery health is only ~60%. I really want to replace the battery, but my local Xiaomi Service Center wouldn't accept my phone because it's not sold officially in my country. want to replace with nohon battery (which is recommended by another user here), but nohon can't ship their product to my country.
Adriano-A3 said:
Go on and join to xiaomi_dipper on telegram
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Can you link this please?
Dr.Dinel said:
Can you link this please?
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Access Telegram and type that in search box
Good luck