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Andoid 4.3 Discussion

So finally Android 4.3 has arrived and our Beloved Nexus 7 is Upgradable Now.....
here is the link to the download of factory Image:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasijwr66v
Follow this Method and flash the New Android OS...
[GUIDE] Flashing a Factory Image with fastboot / return to stock Thanks @comminus for a great Guide...
Report Back with screenShots and new featuers as well as Bugs because new pudates bring New Bugs.....

The update brought a new bootloader version...android 4.2.2 had 4.18 and 4.3 has 4.23.....

hassam_tariq2003 said:
The update brought a new bootloader version...android 4.2.2 had 4.18 and 4.3 has 4.23.....
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Did you lose boot loader unlock or root when you installed 4.3? I'm assuming you used fastboot to install not OTA? Just curious...I'll be playing tonight when I get home.

tbonezx11 said:
Did you lose boot loader unlock or root when you installed 4.3? I'm assuming you used fastboot to install not OTA? Just curious...I'll be playing tonight when I get home.
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You lose root but your bootloader remains unlocked.
Has anyone been able to root 4.3? Tried to root and flash custom recovery with the Nexus 7 toolkit, but I don't think it's working.

mhl12 said:
You lose root but your bootloader remains unlocked.
Has anyone been able to root 4.3? Tried to root and flash custom recovery with the Nexus 7 toolkit, but I don't think it's working.
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haven't tried it (I'm yet to receive the update) but someone referenced this link: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Chainfire/posts/WqS2E9kkN1L

he is right.....You loose root but bootloader remains unlocked...
i have heard people say that you do not loose root if you use the OTA Method and your bootloader also remains unlocked....So its your choice its either Fastboot or OTA...

Just use OTA Rootkeeper, you'll be fine.
Just remember kids.
You cannot use an OTA if your ROM is modified in ANY WAY.

Yeah OTA wont work for most people, seeing as they probably have a modified ROM. In any sense, chainfire has a root method that works. I can confirm it working, because I installed it using TWRP

khaytsus said:
Just use OTA Rootkeeper, you'll be fine.
Just remember kids.
You cannot use an OTA if your ROM is modified in ANY WAY.
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When 4.2.2 came out I had problems updating because my ROM was modified. But someone modified OTA not to check for changes in ROM and it worked.

no OpenGL ES 3.0 for us?
according to http://developer.android.com/:
"OpenGL ES 3.0 is an optional feature that depends on underlying graphics hardware. Support is already available on Nexus 7 (2013), Nexus 4, and Nexus 10 devices."

I am running 4.3 unlocked but I did the one click method for root using nexus tool kit and for some reason it did not work, I have to try again tonight.

Want a single click ADB setup? Go to my thread I've made a Tool for that. No need to download the whole SDK it's just 2MB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2374071
What to know how to easily pull ota link with ADB follow my thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270429
For official nexus 7 windows 7 - 8 driver download them from ASUS site. No trickery needed.
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So, I played around a bit,
First of all, I did a "clean, unrooted and even locked bootloader install".
So I'm 1000% stock, just to avoid stuff like "maybe root caused it"..
(I locked it because I wanted to go 100% stock, just FYI, I know it's normally not necessary...)
The welcome screen was a bit weird... I got asked 2 times to tick or untick boxes for saving passwords and all that stuff.. (I think they mixed up the new and the old "first boot setup"?)
The Apps and widgets in the drawer were kinda confused, took 2 reboots for them to settle... (Icons disappeared and reappeared.. The widget tab in the drawer threw some widgets in and out, and the previews were mixed up, so dots and a weird sign was the result (as a preview of the widget)...
The initial setup was pretty laggy, but after setting stuff up, until now, yes I can say the performance of the nexus 7 is improved..
First I was like "OH HELL NO" but after the setup and the reboot everything was smooth...
Oh, and the back button was destroyed 1 time, blinked up but didn't go back... I pressed the home button and it worked then.
Edit: And sadly, no new wallpapers in stock... ):
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I booted it up, restored my Google Play stuff (flashed a factory image, completely wiped everything from it, so it's clean, I think).
It lagged a lot, so I rebooted it and it still isn't 4.2.2 smooth. Maybe it's just me, I'll see.
Is it just me, or does it feel like the only thing that changed for us is the number in settings menu besides Google Apps?
OpenGL ES as it was already said, doesn't appear to be here for us, not to mention the fact that Miracast had never actually worked on N7 until recently when someone had it ported over.

Has anyone managed to find the link for the OTA yet?

SO I flashed the stock 4.3 kernel on a 4.2.2 rom and discovered that the stock android 4.3 kernel breaks wifi and gps on 4.2.2...

Eregoth said:
Has anyone managed to find the link for the OTA yet?
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I have literally hours working on that.

Flashed the stock image using fastboot, took like 2 minutes to do, flashed the chainfire root patch and rebooted and restored apps, so far everything is pretty smooth no disappearing apps or icons or buttons, the kernel seems to be quicker, opening websites was quite a bit quicker, one thing I noticed while trying out different browsers was ads opening up new tabs automatically, that's something that's never happened before.

ffaiz.m said:
no OpenGL ES 3.0 for us?
according to http://developer.android.com/:
"OpenGL ES 3.0 is an optional feature that depends on underlying graphics hardware. Support is already available on Nexus 7 (2013), Nexus 4, and Nexus 10 devices."
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Tegra 3 does not support GLES3. Even Tegra 4 won't, because nvidia are still using their old gpu architecture.

What's the performance like? Better than 4.2 or 4.1?
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[Q] Upgrading my phone is too complicated?

I have a Nexus 6 with a lot of mods: unlocked, rooted, decrypted, twrp installed, franco-kernel, double-tap to wake and xposed. I'd like to upgrade my phone to 5.1 but with all these mods, which is the best solution? Waiting for a flashable 5.1 zip?
I don't want to lose all my settings and saves. And since in a future i'd like to update to a new android version, I ask to understand how you (nexus users) usually do upgrades with mods inside..

mouse100 said:
I have a Nexus 6 with a lot of mods: unlocked, rooted, decrypted, twrp installed, franco-kernel, double-tap to wake and xposed. I'd like to upgrade my phone to 5.1 but with all these mods, which is the best solution? Waiting for a flashable 5.1 zip?
I don't want to lose all my settings and saves. And since in a future i'd like to update to a new android version, I ask to understand how you (nexus users) usually do upgrades with mods inside..
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You can either wait it out to not lose anything, or you can lose your mods and update, that's about it, that's why I usually stay pretty stock and if I ever want to upgrade, I'm not really losing anything worth having
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Ask yourself what's going to change in your life if you go to 5.1 today? Some people do have good reasons.
I am waiting a few days myself as my phone runs perfectly fine.
Sent from my Nexus 6

i have the exact same question as well lol and have no idea what to do next...
i am rooted, bootloader unlocked, with twrp and decrypted
i guess i will have to flash a 5.1 rom and bootloader/kernel/radio??

I believe you leave out the kernel as that is what allows you to have a decrypted device.
My advice - wait until there is a decrypted 5.1 zip and flash that.

Personally, I use a new version of Android as a reason to wipe and start fresh. Look at all the bootlooping and junk that's happening to people right now who are quick to want to update. I doubt Xposed works on 5.1 as well.

No it doesn't

[Q] Should I try Stock Andoroid before CM12?

My Nexus 6 has finally shipped! It should be here Friday!
This is my first Nexus and I have never rooted, unlocked, flashed, etc. any of my previous phones.
I have been doing a lot of research and have been considering running CM12.
My question is, should I run my Nexus 6 with stock android for a few weeks and then try CM12? Or should I just root, unlock, and flash CM12 as soon as I get it?
I know that if I wait then I will need to back up all my data because it will factory data reset but I am not worried about that... I understand it is easier to do it right out of the box because you don't have to worry about loosing anything but I can just back my info/apps up so that isn't a big deal.
Also, would you guys suggest something over CM12? Right now I am planning on using CM12 and just getting it setup how I like it then leaving it. I don't plan on always flashing and making changes but I might get sucked into it lol
Thanks everyone!

Has CM moved to 5. 1 yet?
What version android came your phone?
Depending on those two answers you have to ask yourself if you want to downgrade your phone. At least version wise
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ

DebianDog said:
Has CM moved to 5. 1 yet?
What version android came your phone?
Depending on those two answers you have to ask yourself if you want to downgrade your phone. At least version wise
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ
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Good point! I don't know if CM is on 5.1 yet. I just assumed it was but I will look into it. This is all new to me so thanks for pointing that out, didn't even think about that!
I won't know what version is on the phone until Friday. But even if it is on 5.0 I am sure it will notify me that 5.1 is ready to download as soon as I boot up the phone.

On my other phones I usually got rid of the stock and was on a custom ROM a pretty quick. I have tried a few ROMs on this phone as well. in my experience if you want to be on 5 .1 currently the best way to go is stock with debloating . Or use one of the clean/vanilla ROMs. Of course I did not test them all there are so many out there. Good luck with your new toy.
I will try CM after its been out a few weeks on 5 .1
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ

I'd recommend updating to 5.1 if it doesn't ship with 5.1. Then, I'd run stock for at least a few days to get a baseline for comparison. I think this is useful especially for bugs. That way you can get an idea of the issues that exist in stock 5.1 before using a custom ROM.

DebianDog said:
On my other phones I usually got rid of the stock and was on a custom ROM a pretty quick. I have tried a few ROMs on this phone as well. in my experience if you want to be on 5 .1 currently the best way to go is stock with debloating . Or use one of the clean/vanilla ROMs. Of course I did not test them all there are so many out there. Good luck with your new toy.
I will try CM after its been out a few weeks on 5 .1
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ
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Okay, thanks for the info!
Since I ordered my phone directly from Google, do I need to debloat? Or is that just for carrier versions?

mlin said:
I'd recommend updating to 5.1 if it doesn't ship with 5.1. Then, I'd run stock for at least a few days to get a baseline for comparison. I think this is useful especially for bugs. That way you can get an idea of the issues that exist in stock 5.1 before using a custom ROM.
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Another great point! I knew you guys were the people to ask! lol
What about rooting and unlocking? Would you suggest waiting on that as well? Is there really any reason to unlock and root if I won't be running CM? I was going to root so that I could decrypte but it sounds like the lag from encryption is fixed in 5.1.

Well I would guess you WILL want to unlock and root because who does want to be able to run a root level ad blocker? Who wants to wait on OTA for an update? Not me.
I got mine from Google, as well, and heres what I did:
Played with the phone in stock form for like an hour saw it was still on 5.01 even after updating
Decided this is not for me. I wanted my root apps and I wanted to copy all the stuff off my old phone with Titanium backup to the Nexus
Looked on the interwebs for the easiest way to get root
Found a tool from my old buddy WugFresh (I knew him in the Droid X days)
Prepared myself for a giant PITA night. Download, drivers, and programs, reading various sites, etc, etc, etc
Was freaking SHOCKED that the tool did ALL THIS for me. I mean I literally plugged in my phone and it collected and set up everything. (It also has a console if you feel the need to type in adb commands)
Was unlocked, upgraded, rooted with a custom recovery with all my apps copied over in less than an hour
Sent Wuggy some $$$ and a thank-you note
You only need to decrypt, IMO, if you are running high end games that demand that level of performance. I have not seen any lag myself. Again this is my own personal experience. Your results may vary. 5.1 has optimized out many of the issues I heard about in 5.01 or so I have been told.

CFrance said:
Another great point! I knew you guys were the people to ask! lol
What about rooting and unlocking? Would you suggest waiting on that as well? Is there really any reason to unlock and root if I won't be running CM? I was going to root so that I could decrypte but it sounds like the lag from encryption is fixed in 5.1.
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I unlocked and rooted right away, mainly for the ability to use Titanium Backup to setup my phone and in the event that I installed a custom ROM. Outside of TB, I haven't really needed or used root, but it sure is nice to have. I played with a few custom ROMs before 5.1 came out but mostly felt that I preferred the stock experience. I downloaded the MCR modpack found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58019266&postcount=1 but have yet to install it. If/when I do, root will become more of a requirement for my uses.
I came from a Verizon Note 4 which could not be rooted. I got used to not playing with my phone and just using the stock experience. Its nice that the stock experience on the N6 is so fantastic and stable. It makes it easy to just use the phone without worry of fixing, modding, and adding features, though I still enjoy those aspects too which is why I'll likely use MultiROM next time I decide to install something custom.

Dude are you somehow tied up with this Tool Kit? You`re promoting it on so many threads i`am starting to get the impression you`re not quite objective about it There is no harm in using toolkits by xperienced users and i`am sure its well build, but for newbies its very dangerous because they`re lost if something should go wrong.

gee2012 said:
Dude are you somehow tied up with this Tool Kit? You`re promoting it on so many threads i`am starting to get the impression you`re not quite objective about it There is no harm in using toolkits by xperienced users and i`am sure its well build, but for newbies its very dangerous because they`re lost if something should go wrong.
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Which is exactly why I'm promoting it it is almost bulletproof. what's the alternative loading all the different tools and drivers they need and following some instructions found on the internet.
And as I explained in my post you can just download the tool to make sure you have all the drivers and connections. use it to get the proper files you need and then run the command line like a power user if you want to feel better about yourself.
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ

DebianDog said:
Which is exactly why I'm promoting it it is almost bulletproof. what's the alternative loading all the different tools and drivers they need and following some instructions found on the internet.
And as I explained in my post you can just download the tool to make sure you have all the drivers and connections. use it to get the proper files you need and then run the command line like a power user if you want to feel better about yourself.
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ
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I will never use/promote a Toolkit even if it seems very good for the reason i posted earlier. Flashing manualy in fastboot doesn`t take more time and makes users more aware about their phone and knowledge of it and gives you control over whats happening Just my 2 cents.

My two cents. I don't think you've dealt with enough newbies. on another forum it was me and a group of others that would help people get their phones out of boot loops and soft bricks. I have literally helped hundreds of people get their phone back.
even if you look here on XDA you'll see people trying to flash the wrong files download files that are not even for their phone, are following a dated instruction or don't really understand how directories work.
Sent from my Google N6 on VZ

DebianDog said:
Well I would guess you WILL want to unlock and root because who does want to be able to run a root level ad blocker? Who wants to wait on OTA for an update? Not me.
I got mine from Google, as well, and heres what I did:
Played with the phone in stock form for like an hour saw it was still on 5.01 even after updating
Decided this is not for me. I wanted my root apps and I wanted to copy all the stuff off my old phone with Titanium backup to the Nexus
Looked on the interwebs for the easiest way to get root
Found a tool from my old buddy WugFresh (I knew him in the Droid X days)
Prepared myself for a giant PITA night. Download, drivers, and programs, reading various sites, etc, etc, etc
Was freaking SHOCKED that the tool did ALL THIS for me. I mean I literally plugged in my phone and it collected and set up everything. (It also has a console if you feel the need to type in adb commands)
Was unlocked, upgraded, rooted with a custom recovery with all my apps copied over in less than an hour
Sent Wuggy some $$$ and a thank-you note
You only need to decrypt, IMO, if you are running high end games that demand that level of performance. I have not seen any lag myself. Again this is my own personal experience. Your results may vary. 5.1 has optimized out many of the issues I heard about in 5.01 or so I have been told.
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Thanks for the info! I actually had just downloaded this program over the weekend and was planning on using it once I do decide to root... which I am thinking will be as soon as I get the phone. lol other than that I think I am going to run it on stock for a while at first and wait until CM is on 5.1 for a while....

mlin said:
I unlocked and rooted right away, mainly for the ability to use Titanium Backup to setup my phone and in the event that I installed a custom ROM. Outside of TB, I haven't really needed or used root, but it sure is nice to have. I played with a few custom ROMs before 5.1 came out but mostly felt that I preferred the stock experience. I downloaded the MCR modpack found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58019266&postcount=1 but have yet to install it. If/when I do, root will become more of a requirement for my uses.
I came from a Verizon Note 4 which could not be rooted. I got used to not playing with my phone and just using the stock experience. Its nice that the stock experience on the N6 is so fantastic and stable. It makes it easy to just use the phone without worry of fixing, modding, and adding features, though I still enjoy those aspects too which is why I'll likely use MultiROM next time I decide to install something custom.
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Thanks! I am planning on rooting and unlocking right away for TB and maybe a couple other little things like lightflow just for fun. Being the nerd that I am, I have a feeling that once I start playing with the whole rooting, unlocking, and flashing stuff I am going to really enjoy it.

gee2012 said:
I will never use/promote a Toolkit even if it seems very good for the reason i posted earlier. Flashing manualy in fastboot doesn`t take more time and makes users more aware about their phone and knowledge of it and gives you control over whats happening Just my 2 cents.
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Thanks for the reply! I see what you are saying, I had already come across Wug's toolkit over the weekend and was planning on using that because it seemed so simple.
However, seeing how I still have two and a half days until my phone will be here, maybe I will look into the manual way a little more to decide which route I want to go.... Any suggestions on where to start? Threads, videos, etc?
Thanks!

Boot into download mode, Unlock bootloader, reboot, boot back into download mode, fastboot twrp recovery, boot into recovery, reboot via recovery and install su when prompted. When you boot into android you will be prompted to update su. You now are rooted. Only other thing I would think about when you first get your device is if you want forced encryption. You will be required to wipe SD data if you decide to go with non forced encryption.
I loved cm on my previous touchwiz devices because I like stock/asop style. I find cm has bugs in early os update releases. I would only install cm if i took advantage of themes which I don't.

CFrance said:
Any suggestions on where to start? Threads, videos, etc?
Thanks!
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You can waste a lot of time while you're waiting for your phone in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2992769
ROM Reviews (5.1) + Nexus 6 Hacking: NRT · Apps · Utilities [3.22.15]
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Root with out Computer

I just got my nexus 6 and it came straight from Google (bought off Craigslist). I'm wanting to root it but I don't have a computer. Is there a way to root without a computer? I'm running marshmallow 6.0 build MRA58K. I see there's a lot of development for this phone. Is development going to continue pretty strong since the new nexus 6 came out??

pitbullmommy45245 said:
I just got my nexus 6 and it came straight from Google (bought off Craigslist). I'm wanting to root it but I don't have a computer. Is there a way to root without a computer?
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You need an other device PC or Mac or Linux.

OK I wasn't sure if there was a one click method

There isn't a one click method for rooting Marshmallow, only for bricking it (temporarily).
Also how do you want to install any custom roms without a computer? At least you need to flash TWRP then you can download roms on your phone, but you need a computer to flash TWRP.
Furthermore, what if the new rom flashed its own recovery then bootloops? With a computer you can re-flash TWRP in a minute and fix this. Without a computer...
I don't want to criticize anybody's hobby, but this can be very expensive...

OK I understand that it was just a question thanks

kings root might work. if it works on marshmallow now. i cant think of any other one click root that might work. but marshmallow requires a custom kernel for root to work, so it might not work at all http://www.kingroot.net/

just a quick confirmation before i buy a pixel 5

Hi guys,
First of all, many thanks, you guys are awesome and i learned a lot here since my Galaxy S4 mini on CyanogenMod 10 years ago. :laugh:
So i bought a Sony Xperia XA1 Ultra (G3223) (Yes, the one with the impossible to unlock bootloader) 6 months ago.
Now i'm done with that piece of restricted hardware and google store where it cost a lot to get something more than useless ads popping apps...... i'm looking to get a pixel 5.
it would be appreciated if i could just have a confirmation that everything is fine with rooting, custom recovery and bootloader type of stuff before.....
(im not retarded, im a french-Canadian)

I will try to answer what I know
Yes you can root
Magisk
Unlock bootloader
But I don't think twrp or any custom recovery is available for pixel 5 yet

alawii_shark said:
I will try to answer what I know
Yes you can root
Magisk
Unlock bootloader
But I don't think twrp or any custom recovery is available for pixel 5 yet
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awesome! Its all about the bootloader anyway...
Thank you

Yes can confirm that bootloader is unlockable (very easy), magisk /root can be flashed fairly easily with patching boot.img (all firmware always available on google's website), I've even been able to install edXposded though I find it less and less useful as Android is constantly bringing in features that was needed through exposed.
I've used many phones and honestly, the Pixel 5 (hadn't used a Google phone since the Nexus 5) is super easy to modify. No worries if you bootloop =)