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Lg Camera App - Finally im not embarrased of my photos.

Hey all
I have been so frustrated with the camera on this phone as it takes barely passable photos in daylight but low light its almost impossible to take photos that are focusd and aren't full of noise. The HDR shot is quite good but nothing special.
Also the photos are a little zoomed in and squashed down if compared against objects you've take the pic of.
So i searched around and came across Lg camera in the market.
It has a free version which seems fully featured which bugs you for purchasing it every now and again. The aspect ratio of the pics is correct and tt takes excellent low light shots especially with flash on and has less noise and focuses perfectly.
Just thought I'd share it see what people thought.
Cheers.

Tried it. Didn't notice a difference. Tried camera zoom fx and all three took the same photo. The autofocus algorithms on this phone are horrible.

Kassassin said:
Tried it. Didn't notice a difference. Tried camera zoom fx and all three took the same photo. The autofocus algorithms on this phone are horrible.
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+1 on this, I kinda kiss the old camera app.
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Just tried it. The quality of the pictures doesn't even change.
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Sorry to say but its totally different pics on mine to stock camera. If you cant see the difference then maybe there's a fault on your phones because lg camera is perfect for me in low light and has no focusing issues at all even in a pitch black room with flash on.
You can also set infinity focus which eliminates all need to focus at all so for me lg camera fixes the problem
Also the aspect ratios in the photos on stock camera are totally different when compared to lg camera so maybe you need to compare the pictures side by side. Lg camera is true to the scene, Google camera squashes everything down. Also the Google camera is zoomed in further than lg camera.
My phone has no focusing issues with this app now.
Camera zoom fx isn't really a camera app more of a toy but anyway hope it helps someone as its sorted the camera form me and I'm very picky.

Ill update the thread with comparisons over the weekend to highlight the difference between the two cameras

check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 out

zephiK said:
check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 out
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That is for video...
There are many camera apps.I like camera zoom.. Works well..
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But I take it only the stock camera app supports photosphere?
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Ill update the thread with comparisons over the weekend to highlight the difference between the two cameras
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Please do!
I tried lgCamera as well as other camera apps and saw no significant difference.
There are several aspects to the bad pictures problem.
- One is the limitations of the camera module which no app can fix.
- Then there's camera calibration. The LG Optimus 4X HD has the same camera module
but produces photos with less noise. There's room for improvement here but it is most
likely going to happen with a firmware update.
- Proper metering and scene evaluation will no doubt increase the picture quality.
Manual control is one avenue to peruse this but I haven't come across and app that
gives exclusive control over ISO and shutter speed. Some apps let you select one and
then automatically adjust the other.

Check out Camera FV-5.

biffsmash said:
If you cant see the difference then maybe there's a fault on your phones because lg camera is perfect for me
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this just made me lol
because you cant see anything that means your phone must be faulty!:laugh:

The camera app itself doesn't really matter.
All the actual focusing/picture taking/etc is done by the kernel module. There is a userspace driver which translate commands from the camera API (its just ends up being a string that defines parameters in plan text) and based off of that it tells the kernel module to make those changes/perform those actions. It even defines the jpg compression quality and whatnot, so there isnt much the actual app itself does.

zivan56 said:
The camera app itself doesn't really matter.
All the actual focusing/picture taking/etc is done by the kernel module. There is a userspace driver which translate commands from the camera API (its just ends up being a string that defines parameters in plan text) and based off of that it tells the kernel module to make those changes/perform those actions. It even defines the jpg compression quality and whatnot, so there isnt much the actual app itself does.
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Level of compression certainly is set by the app. My FV-5 files are twice the size at the same resolution.
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jmudrick said:
Level of compression certainly is set by the app. My FV-5 files are twice the size at the same resolution.
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The camera app *suggests* the compression it would like, it doesn't do the compression itself. The userspace module instructs the camera kernel module to do the compression, and the build in DSP in the Qualcomm chip does the actual compression.

TeamAlpha said:
Check out Camera FV-5.
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this is a great app!!
but how to solve "widescreen viewfinder" no effect

TeamAlpha said:
Check out Camera FV-5.
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But it wants too many permissions.

[Q] Camera

Does anyone feel like Nokia lumia 520 camera in low light conditions is better than Xperia ZR ??
Even though we have 13 megapixel, i somehow feel under low light XZR isnt doing that great :/

13MP
Ye i too am very disappointed with the camera..Compared to my previous 8MP Incredible S and 8MP Sensation this is by far inferior.
can only do 9MP 16:9 otherwise make do with 13MP 4:3 and images are very grainy and there is no sharpness at all. would rather have a lagging shutter with good quality images than lag free with noise. the moment you try to zoom.. that's it the whole image distorts.. for my first xperia i am disappointed and thought sony camera would be far more superior than HTC's.

The camera isn't that bad but I agree it isn't the best considering its meant to be Sony's bread and butter. Low light conditions are not as great and may require you to adjust the settings. I know the xperia t and v has better picture quality but I'm sure this could be fixed in a firmware update much like the xperia z had. If you want bad you should try the nexus 4.
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If and when someone upgrades with the 4.2.2 please report what you think of the new camera/drivers
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Settings
Manual settings are far better than the superior settings they gave,
How about focusing?
Any suggestions on the settings for better pictures ?

how do u or what are the so called recommended manual settings?

Manual/Automatic
I have tried various options with very slight changes. It just seems the overall quality is average at best. my sony ericsson T650 3.2megapixel camera from years back produced much better photos than this.

gmengass said:
I have tried various options with very slight changes. It just seems the overall quality is average at best. my sony ericsson T650 3.2megapixel camera from years back produced much better photos than this.
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Yeah right! Such a troll.

Single focus...hdr on, pictures are somewhat better...check these 2 pics...first is far better than second..
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How could you tell, it's two totally different pictures ?
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Yea well..i was jus asking for tips..still the best was the setting I mentioned above..like if u zoom in these pics, first one does not have that noise as second one..i thot thats a factor to compare them..
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TK8 said:
Yea well..i was jus asking for tips..still the best was the setting I mentioned above..like if u zoom in these pics, first one does not have that noise as second one..i thot thats a factor to compare them..
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noise depends on the ISO setting usually. a higher setting tends to cause more noise. so u cant compare 2 completely different pix unless u know for sure they were taken under the same lighting conditions, same amount of shake while pressing the camera button, etc.. the auto detection feature may sometimes detect the same situation differently. so it would be better if u take pix of the same subject in manual mode with different settings n then compare them.
also, HDR can cause noise coz it has to take 2 pix in different exposure settings. so if ur hand moves by as less as a millimeter in the time frame required by HDR, there will be a considerable amount of noise. try takin a pic of a moving subject in HDR mode n ull c what i mean

I'm on 4.2.2 and I just tried taking a few pictures indoors on superior auto and they look terrible I'm not sure if it improved from the previous firmware. It's like this camera turns itself into vga mode as soon as the sun goes down. These shots made my old galaxy s2 look like the best camera phone around. I'll just have to play with the settings and find what's best for now. Anyone got recommendations for indoor settings?
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The camera is just not very good it seems. Funny Sony is doing many of the other flagshipcameras this year for other companies but can't het their own app upp to par...
I found that moto x camera is faster and I can't see any big differences in quality and the camera JB + with punchfilter normally gives a little more nicety. Off cource perfectly Clear (etc) from playstore does also work good
Hopefully they'll do some wonder in the next update...
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Excellent in daylight!
I found the camera to be quite exceptional in daytime. The stock camera app processes the photos to increase sharpness. The details while zooming in are good in proper light.
However, the noise increases significantly in low light. The picture is fuzzy when zoomed in.
From my experience, Using the HDR mode is the only way to significantly reduce noise. The "Backlight correction + HDR" mode also works quite well.
Funny thing that the ''Night Mode" gave darker images then normal mode for me.

I just had the best camera experience for night mode shots yet.
I changed the settings to normal with auto flash on and HDR off with EV +1.
The pictures were much sharper but requires you to have a steady hand still it's much better. Got the idea off the Xperia Z forum. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397058
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Maybe it would help....
It seems that funky camera credits goes to Exmor RS sensor which uses a "stacked structure" that layers a pixel section over a circuit section, which removes the need to confine the pixel and circuit section into a tight space that limits the size of each element. By fitting bigger components in the same area, the sensor has a more efficient design that captures a higher quality image. Higher noise too, I'd say.
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201208/12-107E/

Its the same camera as in S4 so it's most of all the driver/hardware behind the sensor that's not very good. Sony's just not very good putting stuff together. I have had a few and none is spectacular. Well see next generation of soft and updates, hopefully they'll put some effort in. To have a bit nicer photos indoor the same approach as in my S4, hdr is working ok.
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So what you guys think about the ZR's camera. Is it good or not ?! I plan to buy it next few months but consider more about it first.

Depends on your budget and if U really need a wwaterproof phone I'll presume. The camera is not the best but the phone is nice.
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[Q] How to get this camera to make good pictures

Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days now. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.

Angelusz said:
Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days one. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.
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What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.

z_harris said:
What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.
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Thank you for your reply. I'm currently on the newest firmware. I'm running RomAur v3.2. I had the same problem on a different modified stock ROM of the latest firmware build.

I only know for good light condition, you set the ISO to as low as possible and 20mp manual and need a pair of steady hands. I still havent figure out low light condition, some ppl suggest twilight mode.

1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^

Caffeineshock said:
1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^
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Yea iso to a lower value
Here is a picture with iso over 100
And one at 50 (if picture can't be attached then I'll post it next - having issue with xda app)
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Meh I'm not happy with xda app
Here is pic with 100 iso
U may need to adjust ev accordingly
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Colorful !
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This is with bad lighting (Sun was shining at the cam), a view from my window. Is this the quality I should expect from this phonecam?
Inside, it's never sharp. There simply seems to be too little light to make sharp pictures. The flash does nearly nothing. The low ISO setting makes it lag very much as well, reducing the screen fps to 3 or something like that. I guess it's difficult for the device to keep up.
http://aciai.me/i/uk0v.jpg

Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!

wezzel98765 said:
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?

im not satisfied at all with z1 camera , am i missing something ??

Angelusz said:
I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)

Angelusz said:
Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can

wezzel98765 said:
I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can
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Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
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there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)
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Okay, thanks for the tips.

wezzel98765 said:
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Mmm, can you explain me better auto mode? Do you selected a scene? Do you select single focus point or multi point?
Metering? (Can you explain this)
HDR or image stabilizer?
Do you use the hardware button to take pictures or the software one? I noticed that using the hw one after you press focus and then more to shoot produce a little movement that can make your photo bad. Am I the only one that find the camera button too hard?
Thanks a lot!!!!
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Angelusz said:
Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
Okay, thanks for the tips.
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Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...

ganex said:
Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...
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My advice: Contact the seller and have it exchanged. I think it's a hardware problem.

yes..nexus can't take better pictures than xz1..there's a problem
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what do you think?
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-21310660/DSC_0030.jpg.html
(sorry for the wrong rotation)
settings: manual, iso 200, light +0,7, 5284x3963.
what is wrong? what focus do you use?

Camera zoom fx/third party camera apps

I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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gumbsy1 said:
I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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I have tried all (decent) camera apps out there, camera fx, camera pro, fv5, motorola camera, kitkat camera and so on... all of them are worse than stock, I mean you can tweak some settings exposure stuff like that (on some of them) but the stock camera in high lights captures the best shots of all camera apps (and 95% better than manual too), when it's cloudy or lights aren't high switch to manual, no setting, no scene, no hdr, no steady shot, nothing. If the picture is too exposed I suggest to use the native resolution 20mp 4:3 which result in a bit darker photo. In low lights, or night ... ATM forget about that I'm unable (unless maybe you have patience and a tripod) to capture nice shots.
When you use the stock camera in auto please keep an eye on bottom right and before each shot check if it detects the correct scene, if not change angle if you don't want then switch to manual (with settings said before). Remember that we don't have OIS (optical image stabilizer) but a software one, which IMHO currently is a lie, so keep your hands steady as a brick.

Probably wait and see what the 4.3 update will bring to the camera before even spending money on buying anything.

gumbsy1 said:
I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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I found the LG camera app to be excellent. It's taking some great shots on my Z1. Mind you, I'm no photo expert so I could be wrong but I just did a compare with some 20mp shots on the manual mode with stock cam and the 20mp shots with the LG app. Found the LG app much better as I can't be bothered with tweaking settings. Most shots I take need to be completed within 2-3 secs. I also tried FXcameraZoom and wasn't too happy with it.

DAddYE said:
I have tried all (decent) camera apps out there, camera fx, camera pro, fv5, motorola camera, kitkat camera and so on... all of them are worse than stock, I mean you can tweak some settings exposure stuff like that (on some of them) but the stock camera in high lights captures the best shots of all camera apps (and 95% better than manual too), when it's cloudy or lights aren't high switch to manual, no setting, no scene, no hdr, no steady shot, nothing. If the picture is too exposed I suggest to use the native resolution 20mp 4:3 which result in a bit darker photo. In low lights, or night ... ATM forget about that I'm unable (unless maybe you have patience and a tripod) to capture nice shots.
When you use the stock camera in auto please keep an eye on bottom right and before each shot check if it detects the correct scene, if not change angle if you don't want then switch to manual (with settings said before). Remember that we don't have OIS (optical image stabilizer) but a software one, which IMHO currently is a lie, so keep your hands steady as a brick.
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So more often than not you just use superier auto unless it's dark then you go for manual?
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gumbsy1 said:
So more often than not you just use superier auto unless it's dark then you go for manual?
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Exactly

DAddYE said:
Exactly
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a good camere is: Camera awesome.
Now i have ihacher 1.1 and superior is set to 20 mp ... very good

gioiellino said:
a good camere is: Camera awesome.
Now i have ihacher 1.1 and superior is set to 20 mp ... very good
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Tried that one too, I didn't see any substantial difference

after several tests Pro Capture is my favourite camera app
faster, more precise and better focus than stock
special support for Xperia Z1 (optimized algorithm and 16/9 wide 20MPX)
better auto mode performance than stock superior auto
macro have more sharp details
sometimes I use stock camera because it can handle ISO level and if I have a lot of light I can set ISO 50 and reduce the exposure to obtein perfect panorama images

Could someone post the camera apk from KitKat?

I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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incisivekeith said:
I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app

RErick said:
Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app
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The OG Note has a much better camera with default settings, in my opinion. What main settings get you good pics on the Note 3?
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Highest quality, image stabilization on, auto mode. Just play with it, it has iso and exposure settings too. I have taken some really sweet long exposure shots with it propped up on a rock that look like they've been taken with slow exposure film.

Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.

BewareAlbatross said:
Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.
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Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.

RErick said:
Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.
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Mine goes to 12.8MP (4128x3096). I did notice it didn't do 4k video recording, but I can't find any third-party apps that do that. Does it maybe vary device to device? Might be worth trying out... I know the max MP stated for the Note 3 is 13 but for all I know that's an averages thing. I don't mind losing 0.2MP, since for all I know the full 13 is like I said just raising up.