hello guys i have an external dac/amp can i connect it to the note 5 without rooting
Short answer is probably. I tested with my HIFIMEDIY SABRE ES9023 96KHZ/24BIT USB DAC and it worked just fine. Although the built in audio sounds better with my Audio-Technica ATH-M50x headphones. I would try with the phone headphone out connected directly to your amp if you need the extra power. The built in DAC for the Note 5 is very clean and flat/warm.
To my knowledge rooting doesn't make a difference unless you are running a ROM that has additional driver support added.
WestonWW said:
Short answer is probably. I tested with my HIFIMEDIY SABRE ES9023 96KHZ/24BIT USB DAC and it worked just fine. Although the built in audio sounds better with my Audio-Technica ATH-M50x headphones. I would try with the phone headphone out connected directly to your amp if you need the extra power. The built in DAC for the Note 5 is very clean and flat/warm.
To my knowledge rooting doesn't make a difference unless you are running a ROM that has additional driver support added.
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so , note 5 don't need a dac?? i don't need amplifier i just need better audio quality
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I know a lot of you are anxiously awaiting the voodoo port to our phone but I just wanted to let you know, in case you hadn't heard, that even our stock ROM supports external, driverless DACs and amps. I am using an ODAC and O2 headphone amp but I confirmed FiiO E7s also work so I presume any high-quality DAC will hook right up.
I just got an OTB host adaptor (micro to full size USB), plugged my DAC/amp into the USB and told the ROM (settings>Accessory> Audio Output mode (checked to use external speakers when plugged into a dock) and told the HDMI output to use stereo since I have only two ears and use headphones at work.
The sound, once you've bipassed the DAC internal to the phone is, as you might expect, exemplary- eerily crystal clear and quiet with outstanding dynamics. Since the ODAC is very efficient and the E7 is internally powered neither solution should have any major effect on battery life. Once you've heard an external DAC on this phone you'll feel as sad if you have to use the headphone jack again as you no doubt felt when you tried to use an old "tiny" phone as getting your GN2.
I was quite disappointed with the (for me) relatively poor pen support (I was expecting Newton - like integration), the missing multi-tasking, etc but this feature makes up for it all- if you like music, try it and I guarantee it'll bring a smile to your face whatever else is going on with your day. Poweramp and Music, by the way, support 320k VBR, FLAC and lossless AAC no problem- it just sounds wonderful.
Interesting! I've been really surprised at how great the sound is just using bluetooth audio in the car. Can you provide links/ specific models for these items? Found the FiiO E7 on Amazon, not bad pricewise. I have an OTG thingy I have used with my Nexus 7 but haven't tried it yet with the Note2. I'm using KKR headphones at home and could see going portable with the right setup. Also not above putting stuff together in a box, been playing with Arduino's lately.
Also, assuming the Note2 is the center of my future portable sound world (just got the 64G Sandisk at Best Buy) what format would you recommend for ripping my CDs? I brought some to work today to rip while working but haven't really looked at the various lossless solutions. I would like to get some kind of replaygain-like functionality. Currently using DeadBeef for my player but open to the best solution there too.
I use the fiio e17 . you need a great pair of cans to basically get the best sound.
(I am working on a project to create and 3d print a case that will contain the phone and the fiio. will keep you posted.
I finally tried connecting my Hot audio Dac destroyer (want to get a new dac) to this phone and it seems to work! Used it with my Akg q701's so I think I also need an external amp.
If the sound is coming out of the dac's headphone out is the internal dac of the phone bypassed or if not how do we do so?
guisar said:
I know a lot of you are anxiously awaiting the voodoo port to our phone but I just wanted to let you know, in case you hadn't heard, that even our stock ROM supports external, driverless DACs and amps. I am using an ODAC and O2 headphone amp but I confirmed FiiO E7s also work so I presume any high-quality DAC will hook right up.
I just got an OTB host adaptor (micro to full size USB), plugged my DAC/amp into the USB and told the ROM (settings>Accessory> Audio Output mode (checked to use external speakers when plugged into a dock) and told the HDMI output to use stereo since I have only two ears and use headphones at work.
The sound, once you've bipassed the DAC internal to the phone is, as you might expect, exemplary- eerily crystal clear and quiet with outstanding dynamics. Since the ODAC is very efficient and the E7 is internally powered neither solution should have any major effect on battery life. Once you've heard an external DAC on this phone you'll feel as sad if you have to use the headphone jack again as you no doubt felt when you tried to use an old "tiny" phone as getting your GN2.
I was quite disappointed with the (for me) relatively poor pen support (I was expecting Newton - like integration), the missing multi-tasking, etc but this feature makes up for it all- if you like music, try it and I guarantee it'll bring a smile to your face whatever else is going on with your day. Poweramp and Music, by the way, support 320k VBR, FLAC and lossless AAC no problem- it just sounds wonderful.
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This is relatively widely known, there is a USB audio thread here and it is mentioned in the Sound Quality thread here in the Note 2 subforums
I demonstrate it in the video below, and also did the same in my S3 video of the same kind. I'm using an RSA Intruder with mine, and get the Leckteron UHA-6S.MKII in the post in a few days to try out as well.
Usb-C to 3.5mm Audio Jack
Hi! anyone have an adapter to listen music by this cable?
if someone is using one please have us a review
I want to know if the quality of the music is better than 3.5mm jack audio output.
what about .flac audio format? they sound better with this adapter ?
I test audio with Sony.
* MDR-XB500
* MDR-XB90EX
do u mean, 3.5mm to USB-C b/c if u connect a usb c to headphone jack, the quality will not improve, maybe 3.5mm to usb-c, but i don't think the OP3 supports usb audio, i had tried to get a DAC for my oneplus one and usb instead of the 3.5mm jack but it was mono so it did not sounds good and no separation, i would like to find something better too b/c i put a lot into my car audio but i don't listen CDs, i may go with an Android Auto Headunit b/c those should support usb c audio without mono, currently i am using a HTC One M8 with Viper and Dolby Atmos and it sounds pretty good
u may not be able to tell much but here is a video i made to test SQ, this is a flac file
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1BWDH0j0OE
something like this or opposite: https://www.amazon.com/Type-C-Speakder-Microphone-Female-Adapter/dp/B01HTEVECC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472503538&sr=8-1&keywords=3.5mm+to+usb+c
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do u mean, 3.5mm to USB-C b/c if u connect a usb c to headphone jack, the quality will not improve, maybe 3.5mm to usb-c, but i don't think the OP3 supports usb audio, i had tried to get a DAC for my oneplus one and usb instead of the 3.5mm jack but it was mono so it did not sounds good and no separation, i would like to find something better too b/c i put a lot into my car audio but i don't listen CDs, i may go with an Android Auto Headunit b/c those should support usb c audio without mono, currently i am using a HTC One M8 with Viper and Dolby Atmos and it sounds pretty good
u may not be able to tell much but here is a video i made to test SQ, this is a flac file
something like this or opposite: https://www.amazon.com/Type-C-Speak...qid=1472503538&sr=8-1&keywords=3.5mm+to+usb+c
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I Saw this v?*deo,
and he use LeEco earphones, and works ....
with a port converter it won't sound any better because you're still getting an analog signal from the phone's dac just being fed out the usb-c port rather than the headphone port. Now if you have some digital usb headphones with their own DAC pulling a digital signal from the port then you could have better sound but only because the headphones' dac is likely more suited to that exact pair of headphones though the OP3's DAC is pretty decent imo compared to other phones I've had.
Hi I was listening to my music and I was impressed but just wanted that bit more volume I don't want to root ect (I cannot believe I'm saying that)
Has anyone tried a usb dongle which ships with most phones without headphone jack as I've heard some have a dac built in and sound much louder ect
Suppose another question is would it even work on out phone as we already have a headphone jack will our phone evem recognise music through the usb type c adapter?
Thanks
you can get external DAC's that use the usb out to get direct digital audio, bypassing the A/D D/A conversion.
I have a pair of headphones (AKG N90Q) that have built in DAC. they can grab audio direct from the usb output.
brockyneo said:
Hi I was listening to my music and I was impressed but just wanted that bit more volume I don't want to root ect (I cannot believe I'm saying that)
Has anyone tried a usb dongle which ships with most phones without headphone jack as I've heard some have a dac built in and sound much louder ect
Suppose another question is would it even work on out phone as we already have a headphone jack will our phone evem recognise music through the usb type c adapter?
Thanks
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I use Sony MDR 1ADAC with usb C sounds amazing!
Thanks gonna take a look at some I'm no audiophile but just nice to have that better sound when you want it
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you can get external DAC's that use the usb out to get direct digital audio, bypassing the A/D D/A conversion.
I have a pair of headphones (AKG N90Q) that have built in DAC. they can grab audio direct from the usb output.
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bunglebp said:
I use Sony MDR 1ADAC with usb C sounds amazing!
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Right just tried some gaming headphones which have a dac and I've tried them both on the note 8 and the ps4 pro remote and both sound quiet and lacking volume
But when I plug them into the tv the quadruple in volume does this mean that the note 8 and ps4 are just not as loud even tho I'm using the dac from the headphones
Thanks
Have anyone tried to use the usb port as audio output? Thinking about getting one from aliexpress (for testing). Dont like the 3.5 mm port on top as i put my phone "upside down" in my pocket.
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The HTC USB-C to 3.5mm adapter absolutely works! Here's the drawback ; The operating system does not allow you to fine-tune any of the audio settings. You can change them all you want, but I think that since a DAC is in the adapter there's no software in the phone to modify it's settings.
The sound is great, but you should have some good headphones that don't need to rely on fine-tunng with an equalizer.
I purchased the USB-C headphones that come in the box for the HTC U11, but they don't work because they're designed to work in conjunction with HTC's adaptive audio software and they are powered by the phone. I haven't tried any other brand of USB-C headphones yet.
Okay thanks for the tip!
As i understand the xz1 compact has the usb audio device class 3.0 wich supports both analog and digital audio thru the usb port. Wich would be the difference between usb c to 3.5 adapters and usb c enabled headphones wich probably would contain the actual dac. The analog one should support audiotweaking tho?
I Will order two different adapters, One analog and one digital and report back here.
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Okay thanks for the tip!
As i understand the xz1 compact has the usb audio device class 3.0 wich supports both analog and digital audio thru the usb port. Wich would be the difference between usb c to 3.5 adapters and usb c enabled headphones wich probably would contain the actual dac. The analog one should support audiotweaking tho?
I Will order two different adapters, One analog and one digital and report back here.
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Anything to report?
Nope. Ordered from China so might take a while..
I've got a Dragonfly Red USB DAC incoming which I plan on using with "USB AUDIO PLAYER PRO" app. I'll be connecting via an OTG usb cable. This will give me a high end source to drive some high end IEM earphones.
Pretty sure this will work, as the DAC is designed for Android 5.0 onwards. Will report back once I have all the parts and tested.
If that helps, I just attached my USB Headset to my phone and it works perfectly, volume control, muting and everything.
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If that helps, I just attached my USB Headset to my phone and it works perfectly, volume control, muting and everything.
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Nice!
Does the soundsettings work? Clearaudio and EQ etc? Also what headset are u using?
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I've got a Dragonfly Red USB DAC incoming which I plan on using with "USB AUDIO PLAYER PRO" app. I'll be connecting via an OTG usb cable. This will give me a high end source to drive some high end IEM earphones.
Pretty sure this will work, as the DAC is designed for Android 5.0 onwards. Will report back once I have all the parts and tested.
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Been using the above setup, and confirm its working good. The Sony audio settings (clear audio, DSEE HX, etc) do not have any effect on this DAC audio output (I wouldn't want to either, and I think these effects only alter the 2.5mm jack on the phone). I am using an app that has direct sound output to the DAC though, which bypasses the android sound resampling process. This gives you much better sound if you have a good DAC, or even one that is better than the on board sound.
I posted last month about this with no replies, so I figured I'd try again.
I have my usb settings at MTP, and when I connect my Fiio E7 I get music through it. Problem is, I can still control the volume from the phone. That tells me it is not bypassing the N8 DAC and amplifier. It should only be sending the digital signal to the external DAC which then goes to the E7's amp for volume control. Correct? That is how it works when connected to my laptop. And there is a clear difference between laptop with and without E7 and also a difference between laptop with E7 and N8 with E7. There is no difference when using E7 with N8 and just using the headphone jack.
Anyone figure a way to bypass internal DAC?
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I posted last month about this with no replies, so I figured I'd try again.
I have my usb settings at MTP, and when I connect my Fiio E7 I get music through it. Problem is, I can still control the volume from the phone. That tells me it is not bypassing the N8 DAC and amplifier. It should only be sending the digital signal to the external DAC which then goes to the E7's amp for volume control. Correct? That is how it works when connected to my laptop. And there is a clear difference between laptop with and without E7 and also a difference between laptop with E7 and N8 with E7. There is no difference when using E7 with N8 and just using the headphone jack.
Anyone figure a way to bypass internal DAC?
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The phone can recognize that you have a DAC connected, but that doesn't mean the app volume or OS volume controls are eliminated. It's all independent as far ask I know. I have the Fiio Q1, and when I connect (via USB OTG) it recognizes it as an audio output device, but my volume rocker still affects the volume. Even so, the sound quality is leaps and bounds higher than it is just plugging headphones into the phone.
Make sure you're using an app that passes the correct info via usb to the DAC. Poweramp alpha, USB Audio Player, and HibyMusic all work (among a few others). Try one and see if that makes a difference.
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Make sure you're using an app that passes the correct info via usb to the DAC. Poweramp alpha, USB Audio Player, and HibyMusic all work (among a few others). Try one and see if that makes a difference.
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Thanks for the reply, but I'm trying to use the Tidal app for streaming.
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The phone can recognize that you have a DAC connected, but that doesn't mean the app volume or OS volume controls are eliminated. It's all independent as far ask I know. I have the Fiio Q1, and when I connect (via USB OTG) it recognizes it as an audio output device, but my volume rocker still affects the volume. Even so, the sound quality is leaps and bounds higher than it is just plugging headphones into the phone.
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I verified with an electrical engineer/mechatronics professor I know and my thoughts were correct. It should only be passing the audio data, which will not have an effect on the volume. You can't change the volume on data. So it has to be going through the phone's DAC and amp for volume control to work.
Thanks for the reply though.
I'm not sure if it will help but have you tried to disable absolute volume control in the developer settings?
Coming from a Fiio E17K Alpen 2 I can tell you that they are a picky bunch and I was only able to get it work sometimes when using USB Audio Player Pro, which has Tidal integration btw. Have since upgraded to a Fiio Q1 MK2 and have no issues whatsoever. Keep in mind, the earlier Fiio USB AMP/DACs were never guaranteed to work on Android, hell not even the Q1 is but it works perfectly.
I'm not very knowledgeable about audio stuff but is there such thing as a DAC for BT headphones?
D_VIN_GADO said:
Coming from a Fiio E17K Alpen 2 I can tell you that they are a picky bunch and I was only able to get it work sometimes when using USB Audio Player Pro, which has Tidal integration btw. Have since upgraded to a Fiio Q1 MK2 and have no issues whatsoever. Keep in mind, the earlier Fiio USB AMP/DACs were never guaranteed to work on Android, hell not even the Q1 is but it works perfectly.
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I finally got a chance to try USB Audio Player Pro. It works perfectly. Thanks for your help.
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Make sure you're using an app that passes the correct info via usb to the DAC. Poweramp alpha, USB Audio Player, and HibyMusic all work (among a few others). Try one and see if that makes a difference.
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Thanks again for the help. I didn't try USB Audio Player until D_VIN_GADO pointed out that it has Tidal integrated.
lowridin67 said:
I finally got a chance to try USB Audio Player Pro. It works perfectly. Thanks for your help.
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Glad you got it worked out.