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So PVZ2 came out for everyone the other day, and I just tried to install it on my Moto X. From the phone I cant find it, and from the web its telling me its incompatible with with the Moto X and the Galaxy Camera (similar to the S3 in hardware). Does it really not work with our phones, or is Google Play confused like so often seems to happen?
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So PVZ2 came out for everyone the other day, and I just tried to install it on my Moto X. From the phone I cant find it, and from the web its telling me its incompatible with with the Moto X and the Galaxy Camera (similar to the S3 in hardware). Does it really not work with our phones, or is Google Play confused like so often seems to happen?
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Works on the Moto X just fine, side loaded the Australian APK (game is free to play anyway). Is it out in the US yet? Wasn't when I checked last week
Wingdom said:
So PVZ2 came out for everyone the other day, and I just tried to install it on my Moto X. From the phone I cant find it, and from the web its telling me its incompatible with with the Moto X and the Galaxy Camera (similar to the S3 in hardware). Does it really not work with our phones, or is Google Play confused like so often seems to happen?
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i dont think its out in the US yet (if thats where you are, its where i am.) i just looked online where people are saying its "out for everyone" and found the play store link Its published by EA Swiss Sarl, which is what they publish under for europe. I just looked under the Electronic Arts publisher, which is their US publishing name, and its not there yet. So its not out in the US yet which is why it shows as imcompatible with all your devices.
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i dont think its out in the US yet (if thats where you are, its where i am.) i just looked online where people are saying its "out for everyone" and found the play store link Its published by EA Swiss Sarl, which is what they publish under for europe. I just looked under the Electronic Arts publisher, which is their US publishing name, and its not there yet. So its not out in the US yet which is why it shows as imcompatible with all your devices.
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I interpreted "out for everyone" as the USA too. I guess we arent "everyone" (ill make a note of that somewhere...). I guess I will wait for it to show up in the store for us. I dont want to have to start over from the Australian version when we can get it... Still strange the way they are releasing this game...
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I interpreted "out for everyone" as the USA too. I guess we arent "everyone" (ill make a note of that somewhere...). I guess I will wait for it to show up in the store for us. I dont want to have to start over from the Australian version when we can get it... Still strange the way they are releasing this game...
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Apple dished out big bucks to EA to keep it off Android in the US, how long is yet to be seen. That is the only reason it is not here yet.
Wingdom said:
I interpreted "out for everyone" as the USA too. I guess we arent "everyone" (ill make a note of that somewhere...). I guess I will wait for it to show up in the store for us. I dont want to have to start over from the Australian version when we can get it... Still strange the way they are releasing this game...
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Yea, if you see a link for an EA game and it ends with 'row' that means it's for 'rest of world'. EA has this weird deal with Apple, even though they both deny it. It'll probably release in US on the 31st, or Nov 1st.
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Since Google haven't opened up whitelisting for the developers and with the new possibilities for rooted users to make their own whitelist I REALLY regret I let my unit from the first batch of ChromeCast upgrade.
So any new possibility in sight for any new root method for later firmwares?
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Me too. :crying:
Unfortunately this is unlikely. Google has the boot loader thoroughly locked down now, and it's not like you can install apps on the Chromecast. Maybe we can hire a team of virus writers to discover some sort of buffer overrun situation in Youtube.
I wonder exactly how many rootable Chromecast devices are actually out in the wild. I would assume that it is likely less than a couple hundred, and they are either active here, or are lurkers here. Everybody else already updated theirs upon plugging it in and setting it up (or it was already updated to a non-rootable firmware).
With the lack of apps coming out, the lack of available dev interest in rooting these, I am not hopeful. Though I sincerely hope not, I wonder if the four that I bought are never to be used for more than Google lets me.
Sadly I have a variety of streaming devices. Apple and Google nice to look at but not too useful. Roku quite useful. I currently have 103 programs on it. Mostly crap but 10 very useful.
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Yean, I have just had my powered USB Host cable delivered, so hopefully an exploit will be discovered soon!
Has anybody gotten the Moto Voice update yet. Seems my moto x has not gotten it yet but the listing for Touchless Control on google play has been updated and rebranded as Moto Voice. If anybody has gotten the update please post the apk.
In the new Moto X it is calles Moto Voice.
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Has anybody gotten the Moto Voice update yet. Seems my moto x has not gotten it yet but the listing for Touchless Control on google play has been updated and rebranded as Moto Voice. If anybody has gotten the update please post the apk.
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Gizmodo said that the 2013 moto x is not getting any of the new updates for moto software. .
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Gizmodo said that the 2013 moto x is not getting any of the new updates for moto software. .
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Please look into stuff before presenting information. This is in the change log of the update:
For Moto X (1st generation), Droid Maxx, Droid Mini, and Droid Ultra users, stay tuned for updates to Moto Voice / Touchless Control soon.
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Please look into stuff before presenting information. This is in the change log of the update:
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Of course the app is going to get updated to the new name but from the article it's saying the features won't make it. I guess I should be a bit clearer with my words. I'm just relaying the message, I'm not just pulling this stuff out of thin
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Perhaps you should read through it as well. By the following it seems more likely the 2013 moto x is NOT getting the new features like the 2014 Moto X.
Without touching your smartphone at all, you can get directions, set an alarm or pretty much anything—just by talking. Moto Voice is always ready. Say “Do I need an umbrella?” and it gives you the weather. Tell it you’re going home, and Moto Voice will get you there. Say "Find your phone" for your phone to make it ring so you can track it down.
On your new Moto X (2nd generation), there’s even more:
To make Moto Voice more personal to you, create your own launch phrase, like “Hello Moto X” and teach it your voice. Say “Play Beethoven on YouTube” to play music videos on YouTube. You can also interact with your favorite apps like Facebook and WhatsApp with your voice.
I found this one very vague reference on Gizmodo's article:
One major disappointment? Motorola's software updates won't be coming to last year's Moto X. Sorry, folks; it's a dead-end device. Which is a real shame, given that it's only a year old.
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It doesn't say what it is referring to at all....but it was written right after the section of the article outlining new camera features...
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I found this one very vague reference on Gizmodo's article:
It doesn't say what it is referring to at all....but it was written right after the section of the article outlining new camera features...
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It was added right after the software section of the article so I'm guessing it's multiple software updates that won't be coming to the gen1 X. So far it looks like the customized wake-up phrase isn't coming. HOPEFULLY a dev here will be able to remedy that. I have faith, but if it's tied into the features of the snapdragon 801 then it might be a tall task.
It looks like Punit Soni says that we will be getting some of the new features of the new Moto X
"The new Moto X, the new Moto G, Moto 360 and Moto Hint.
I hope you like our line-up. The Specs are great and we have all new and improved software features across the board which make these devices work even better.
And better still, all that software will come to all our existing users too (as long as the Hardware allows it)
The team has worked super hard for this. I hope you all enjoy the update."
https://plus.google.com/111499908439497508351/posts/Nz6VZ61wNGe
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It looks like Punit Soni says that we will be getting some of the new features of the new Moto X
"The new Moto X, the new Moto G, Moto 360 and Moto Hint.
I hope you like our line-up. The Specs are great and we have all new and improved software features across the board which make these devices work even better.
And better still, all that software will come to all our existing users too (as long as the Hardware allows it)
The team has worked super hard for this. I hope you all enjoy the update."
https://plus.google.com/111499908439497508351/posts/Nz6VZ61wNGe
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I guess that means that Gizmodo screwed up.
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I guess that means that Gizmodo screwed up.
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I sure hope so, but that part about the hardware allowing it, puts a bit of a dark cloud over it. I read down further and he confirms that yes it will be coming to the moto X G1 so that's good news. . At this point, i'll believe it when I "talk" to it.
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I sure hope so, but that part about the hardware allowing it, puts a bit of a dark cloud over it. I read down further and he confirms that yes it will be coming to the moto X G1 so that's good news. . At this point, i'll believe it when I "talk" to it.
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I think all the new Moto stuff will be coming to our phones, but I think he's referring to the new camera features, like picture caching and 4K recording. I'm guessing the sensor doesn't support it.
U prefer believe in gizmodo than motorola? They said: Everything will come to first generation that don't need new hardware, the hand passing above the phone with new IR sensors will not come, and shotting photos with 2 LED flashs, but the rest will come. Motorola made a launching party and said that the moto X will come first to Brazil today, and talked about that.
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I think all the new Moto stuff will be coming to our phones, but I think he's referring to the new camera features, like picture caching and 4K recording. I'm guessing the sensor doesn't support it.
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photo caching has little to nothing to do with the sensor. it has to do with processing power and RAM allocation. a dedicated camera (even SLR) that can take multiple shots per second will run in to buffering issues once you've reached the max threshold (bottleneck in file writing/caching).
frankly i don't see why the camera apk couldn't come to the old X. the high-level description was that it basically takes three pictures. to do this, the phone has to cache frames of rolling images and save them once you hit the shutter. based on the description, it's buffering 3 frames out of possible 60/s (i don't see it being higher than that). so technically your shot would take all of 3s to snap, save and preview.
i'd like to see more demo/reviews on this tech to find out if my assumptions are correct.
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U prefer believe in gizmodo than motorola? They said: Everything will come to first generation that don't need new hardware, the hand passing above the phone with new IR sensors will not come, and shotting photos with 2 LED flashs, but the rest will come. Motorola made a launching party and said that the moto X will come first to Brazil today, and talked about that.
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It's not like gizmodo doesn't have a positive reputation. They were questioned about it today and they indicated they were told at the press event that the features wouldn't come to the G1 moto x. It's also not uncommon for Companies to change their stance on certains things as well. The next thing we should wonder (non moto related) is whether or not Sony remote play will come to the Xperia Z2. It's as capable as the Z3. Maybe they'll change their stance on that as well if there is enough demand.
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photo caching has little to nothing to do with the sensor. it has to do with processing power and RAM allocation. a dedicated camera (even SLR) that can take multiple shots per second will run in to buffering issues once you've reached the max threshold (bottleneck in file writing/caching).
frankly i don't see why the camera apk couldn't come to the old X. the high-level description was that it basically takes three pictures. to do this, the phone has to cache frames of rolling images and save them once you hit the shutter. based on the description, it's buffering 3 frames out of possible 60/s (i don't see it being higher than that). so technically your shot would take all of 3s to snap, save and preview.
i'd like to see more demo/reviews on this tech to find out if my assumptions are correct.
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Ah gotcha. Thought maybe it had something to do with shutter speed.
Quite frankly I'm looking forward to the new X. I know some people are grumbling about the size increase(rightfully so), but that's where the market is going. I see more people holding huge Samsung devices than any other, including iPhones(which I used to see everywhere). In fact, on my team of 13 here at work, only 4 have iPhones. The rest all have Galaxy phones... Excluding me of course, who made the right choice.
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Ah gotcha. Thought maybe it had something to do with shutter speed.
Quite frankly I'm looking forward to the new X. I know some people are grumbling about the size increase(rightfully so), but that's where the market is going. I see more people holding huge Samsung devices than any other, including iPhones(which I used to see everywhere). In fact, on my team of 13 here at work, only 4 have iPhones. The rest all have Galaxy phones... Excluding me of course, who made the right choice.
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I came to Moto X from the HTC One M7. The new camera features in the new moto x sound like a subset of what the HTC One has. While they are nifty, I don't really miss them. The most useful is the highlight clip. However, I can get that from G+ Photos' auto-awesome. The number one feature on the moto x that I find indispensable is Touchless Control, so I sure hope the new Moto Voice will come to gen 1 moto x.
Does anyone have apk?
Got an update today but everything still says touchless control, aside from the play store. Haven't had a chance to test it out yet.
Using AVG the past years, but I was wondering if we actually NEED an antivirus on android. I heard it is the platform hackers love the most, but I really don't think AVG (or another av) could stop that. What do you guys do?
Short answer? No. Long one? It's up to you.
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Using AVG the past years, but I was wondering if we actually NEED an antivirus on android. I heard it is the platform hackers love the most, but I really don't think AVG (or another av) could stop that. What do you guys do?
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No, you dont need an antivirus as you cant have an executable running on Android, unlike Windows.
Hackers? Those vulnerabilities that allows intrusion to your device is in no way stoppable by a mere antivirus.
Intrusion is only possible when a known exploit is used, say, like the Stagefright. This kind of thing however is no way possible to be "fixed" by an antivirus.
Also, keep an eye on the apps you install. Never install suspicious apps.
I have never use any on any of the phones I owned. I always cringe whenever a sales assistant tells people to buy an iPhone because Android is plagued with viruses. Wtf?
As far as I know Android, if there is any vulnerability that would be at your ROM level which can't be fixed by a 10MB piece of code (antivirus). Google used to push security patches every month which is actual fix or solution for intrusion.
So don't be confuse with antivirus that 'll in-fact make your system slow
I originally posted this in the Fire HD forum, but was told the most up to date procedure was probably here. Is that true?
My situation is this. My main Fire is a Fire 5th Gen (the $49 one), and I got comfortable with using it JUST with Google Play installed and no other tweaks. I used the Rootjunky Supertool program and ADB to do that under 5.1.1.
I just got, as a secondary device, a used HD7 4th Gen. The previous owner must have had it upgrade to 5.1.2 recently, because that's what it came with. I'm aware that there are (probably even more reliable that with the 5th Gen) ways to back-apply FireOS4 and get the thing rooted without bricking it, but... at this point I'm not ready for that. Like with my Gen5 I just want Google Play on it.
What I don't know is if the current tools around to do that (like the Supertool) will WORK with an HD7 4th Gen and 5.1.2. I've been told in a general sort of manner that the procedure just to get a non-rooted Play store install should be "the same" as for the 5th Gen device, but that doesn't say to me that the Supertool would work. Or does it (since it just says "5th Generation" on it's descriptions)? And if not, what other took or script does?
I will say I already have Developer Mode and ADB access turned on, and even have a copy of ES File Manager from the Amazon Store on the HD7-4thGen, suspecting that one or both of those would come in handy. So what's next?
Thanks!
I just purchased a Fire that came preloaded with 5.1.2. I can confirm SuperTool installed Google Apps just fine. Google prompted me to upgrade the services framework which worked without a hitch. I've not tried anything else yet such as removing ads, and we already know root doesn't work in 5.1.2 yet.
Some Play Store apps may not work, or may be quirky if they do but that is par for the course with Amazon devices that haven't been reimaged to a "real" Android OS.
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I originally posted this in the Fire HD forum, but was told the most up to date procedure was probably here. Is that true?
My situation is this. My main Fire is a Fire 5th Gen (the $49 one), and I got comfortable with using it JUST with Google Play installed and no other tweaks. I used the Rootjunky Supertool program and ADB to do that under 5.1.1.
I just got, as a secondary device, a used HD7 4th Gen. The previous owner must have had it upgrade to 5.1.2 recently, because that's what it came with. I'm aware that there are (probably even more reliable that with the 5th Gen) ways to back-apply FireOS4 and get the thing rooted without bricking it, but... at this point I'm not ready for that. Like with my Gen5 I just want Google Play on it.
What I don't know is if the current tools around to do that (like the Supertool) will WORK with an HD7 4th Gen and 5.1.2. I've been told in a general sort of manner that the procedure just to get a non-rooted Play store install should be "the same" as for the 5th Gen device, but that doesn't say to me that the Supertool would work. Or does it (since it just says "5th Generation" on it's descriptions)? And if not, what other took or script does?
I will say I already have Developer Mode and ADB access turned on, and even have a copy of ES File Manager from the Amazon Store on the HD7-4thGen, suspecting that one or both of those would come in handy. So what's next?
Thanks!
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I don't think anyone here is going to stick their neck out to answer an off-topic question. If you want to know if it works try it! Otherwise the Fire HD forum is your best resource.
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I don't think anyone here is going to stick their neck out to answer an off-topic question. If you want to know if it works try it! Otherwise the Fire HD forum is your best resource.
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Funny how that works, when someone there used virtually the identical wording to point me HERE:
bibikalka said:
Your best bet is to go to the Gen 5 XDA forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire
The devices are literally identical if you want rootless GAPPS. So look for what's offered there.
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Funny how that works, when someone there used virtually the identical wording to point me HERE:
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- devices are not "literally identical" - not even close
- HD 7 is clearly off-topic for this forum
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- devices are not "literally identical" - not even close
- HD 7 is clearly off-topic for this forum
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I went back there and asked again, so we'll see what happens.
It boggles my mind that nobody there would have tested installing Play on one of the 4thGen devices (without all of the rooting shenanigans I mean). But that seems to be what's being implied--literally nobody knows if it works.
Heck, looking around here I'm not sure if anyone knows if it works still under 5.1.2 with the 5th Gen device (which I also have). My 5th Gen updated 5.1.1 to 5.1.2 (because I hadn't blocked OTA updates--and just had Play installed and no root). Play still worked after the update, but it's really got me curious if the Rootjunky tool even still works under 5.1.2 (aside from the rooting stuff, which I know doesn't).
EDIT - sorry, just saw zerbey's post up there. I'm assuming zerbey means with a 5th Gen device, so that's answered. Since my 5th Gen already had Play from 5.1.1 it was just curiosity driving that question either (although it also occurred to me it might be nice to know in case there is ever a reason to reinstall Play). As for the 4th Gen device, was there ever even an equivalent to the supertool (even if less automated)? That's part of what I've been trying to find out, and I'm supposing why that person pointed me to this forum. But as I've said I've gone back there and asked again.
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I went back there and asked again, so we'll see what happens.
It boggles my mind that nobody there would have tested installing Play on one of the 4thGen devices (without all of the rooting shenanigans I mean). But that seems to be what's being implied--literally nobody knows if it works.
Heck, looking around here I'm not sure if anyone knows if it works still under 5.1.2 with the 5th Gen device (which I also have). My 5th Gen updated 5.1.1 to 5.1.2 (because I hadn't blocked OTA updates--and just had Play installed and no root). Play still worked after the update, but it's really got me curious if the Rootjunky tool even still works under 5.1.2 (aside from the rooting stuff, which I know doesn't).
EDIT - sorry, just saw zerbey's post up there. I'm assuming zerbey means with a 5th Gen device, so that's answered. Since my 5th Gen already had Play from 5.1.1 it was just curiosity driving that question either (although it also occurred to me it might be nice to know in case there is ever a reason to reinstall Play). As for the 4th Gen device, was there ever even an equivalent to the supertool (even if less automated)? That's part of what I've been trying to find out, and I'm supposing why that person pointed me to this forum. But as I've said I've gone back there and asked again.
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In general FireOS v4 and Google Play Services don't play nice together. The combo can be made to work, sort of, but each refresh seems to bring new challenges. Blocking component updates is frustrating as apps are increasingly dependent on current/recent versions of Play Services. FireOS v5 appears to be more accommodating.
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In general FireOS v4 and Google Play Services don't play nice together. The combo can be made to work, sort of, but each refresh seems to bring new challenges. Blocking component updates is frustrating as apps are increasingly dependent on current/recent versions of Play Services. FireOS v5 appears to be more accommodating.
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I'm not talking about FireOS4. I'm talking about the 4th Gen device (HD7-Gen4) with 5.1.2 on it, and wanting just Play Store without root. Again, I know the primary place to ask about that is the HD forum, but because of a bum answer there that insisted that someone here might know the specific tools better (because they tend to root everything in that forum by default, I guess, and seem to think the procedure to add Play should be the same), that's how this got posted here.
Actually I just had an answer in the other forum that again insisted nobody there knows squat about adding Play to the HD7 without rooting, so... I guess I'm likely stuck rooting the damn thing (which also means backapplying FireOS4--the part that scares me).
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I'm not talking about FireOS4. I'm talking about the 4th Gen device (HD7-Gen4) with 5.1.2 on it, and wanting just Play Store without root. Again, I know the primary place to ask about that is the HD forum, but because of a bum answer there that insisted that someone here might know the specific tools better (because they tend to root everything in that forum by default, I guess, and seem to think the procedure to add Play should be the same), that's how this got posted here.
Actually I just had an answer in the other forum that again insisted nobody there knows squat about adding Play to the HD7 without rooting, so... I guess I'm likely stuck rooting the damn thing (which also means backapplying FireOS4--the part that scares me).
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I forgot 4th gen devices were upgraded to FireOS 5. A consequence of trying to provide assistance for another device type that is not typically discussed in a 5th gen device forum. I hang my head in shame for misunderstanding your off-topic question.
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I'm not talking about FireOS4. I'm talking about the 4th Gen device (HD7-Gen4) with 5.1.2 on it, and wanting just Play Store without root. Again, I know the primary place to ask about that is the HD forum, but because of a bum answer there that insisted that someone here might know the specific tools better (because they tend to root everything in that forum by default, I guess, and seem to think the procedure to add Play should be the same), that's how this got posted here.
Actually I just had an answer in the other forum that again insisted nobody there knows squat about adding Play to the HD7 without rooting, so... I guess I'm likely stuck rooting the damn thing (which also means backapplying FireOS4--the part that scares me).
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