Has anybody gotten the Moto Voice update yet. Seems my moto x has not gotten it yet but the listing for Touchless Control on google play has been updated and rebranded as Moto Voice. If anybody has gotten the update please post the apk.
In the new Moto X it is calles Moto Voice.
joejoejo said:
Has anybody gotten the Moto Voice update yet. Seems my moto x has not gotten it yet but the listing for Touchless Control on google play has been updated and rebranded as Moto Voice. If anybody has gotten the update please post the apk.
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Gizmodo said that the 2013 moto x is not getting any of the new updates for moto software. .
biggiestuff said:
Gizmodo said that the 2013 moto x is not getting any of the new updates for moto software. .
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Please look into stuff before presenting information. This is in the change log of the update:
For Moto X (1st generation), Droid Maxx, Droid Mini, and Droid Ultra users, stay tuned for updates to Moto Voice / Touchless Control soon.
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dier325 said:
Please look into stuff before presenting information. This is in the change log of the update:
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Of course the app is going to get updated to the new name but from the article it's saying the features won't make it. I guess I should be a bit clearer with my words. I'm just relaying the message, I'm not just pulling this stuff out of thin
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Perhaps you should read through it as well. By the following it seems more likely the 2013 moto x is NOT getting the new features like the 2014 Moto X.
Without touching your smartphone at all, you can get directions, set an alarm or pretty much anything—just by talking. Moto Voice is always ready. Say “Do I need an umbrella?” and it gives you the weather. Tell it you’re going home, and Moto Voice will get you there. Say "Find your phone" for your phone to make it ring so you can track it down.
On your new Moto X (2nd generation), there’s even more:
To make Moto Voice more personal to you, create your own launch phrase, like “Hello Moto X” and teach it your voice. Say “Play Beethoven on YouTube” to play music videos on YouTube. You can also interact with your favorite apps like Facebook and WhatsApp with your voice.
I found this one very vague reference on Gizmodo's article:
One major disappointment? Motorola's software updates won't be coming to last year's Moto X. Sorry, folks; it's a dead-end device. Which is a real shame, given that it's only a year old.
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It doesn't say what it is referring to at all....but it was written right after the section of the article outlining new camera features...
samwathegreat said:
I found this one very vague reference on Gizmodo's article:
It doesn't say what it is referring to at all....but it was written right after the section of the article outlining new camera features...
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It was added right after the software section of the article so I'm guessing it's multiple software updates that won't be coming to the gen1 X. So far it looks like the customized wake-up phrase isn't coming. HOPEFULLY a dev here will be able to remedy that. I have faith, but if it's tied into the features of the snapdragon 801 then it might be a tall task.
It looks like Punit Soni says that we will be getting some of the new features of the new Moto X
"The new Moto X, the new Moto G, Moto 360 and Moto Hint.
I hope you like our line-up. The Specs are great and we have all new and improved software features across the board which make these devices work even better.
And better still, all that software will come to all our existing users too (as long as the Hardware allows it)
The team has worked super hard for this. I hope you all enjoy the update."
https://plus.google.com/111499908439497508351/posts/Nz6VZ61wNGe
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It looks like Punit Soni says that we will be getting some of the new features of the new Moto X
"The new Moto X, the new Moto G, Moto 360 and Moto Hint.
I hope you like our line-up. The Specs are great and we have all new and improved software features across the board which make these devices work even better.
And better still, all that software will come to all our existing users too (as long as the Hardware allows it)
The team has worked super hard for this. I hope you all enjoy the update."
https://plus.google.com/111499908439497508351/posts/Nz6VZ61wNGe
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I guess that means that Gizmodo screwed up.
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I guess that means that Gizmodo screwed up.
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I sure hope so, but that part about the hardware allowing it, puts a bit of a dark cloud over it. I read down further and he confirms that yes it will be coming to the moto X G1 so that's good news. . At this point, i'll believe it when I "talk" to it.
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I sure hope so, but that part about the hardware allowing it, puts a bit of a dark cloud over it. I read down further and he confirms that yes it will be coming to the moto X G1 so that's good news. . At this point, i'll believe it when I "talk" to it.
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I think all the new Moto stuff will be coming to our phones, but I think he's referring to the new camera features, like picture caching and 4K recording. I'm guessing the sensor doesn't support it.
U prefer believe in gizmodo than motorola? They said: Everything will come to first generation that don't need new hardware, the hand passing above the phone with new IR sensors will not come, and shotting photos with 2 LED flashs, but the rest will come. Motorola made a launching party and said that the moto X will come first to Brazil today, and talked about that.
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I think all the new Moto stuff will be coming to our phones, but I think he's referring to the new camera features, like picture caching and 4K recording. I'm guessing the sensor doesn't support it.
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photo caching has little to nothing to do with the sensor. it has to do with processing power and RAM allocation. a dedicated camera (even SLR) that can take multiple shots per second will run in to buffering issues once you've reached the max threshold (bottleneck in file writing/caching).
frankly i don't see why the camera apk couldn't come to the old X. the high-level description was that it basically takes three pictures. to do this, the phone has to cache frames of rolling images and save them once you hit the shutter. based on the description, it's buffering 3 frames out of possible 60/s (i don't see it being higher than that). so technically your shot would take all of 3s to snap, save and preview.
i'd like to see more demo/reviews on this tech to find out if my assumptions are correct.
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U prefer believe in gizmodo than motorola? They said: Everything will come to first generation that don't need new hardware, the hand passing above the phone with new IR sensors will not come, and shotting photos with 2 LED flashs, but the rest will come. Motorola made a launching party and said that the moto X will come first to Brazil today, and talked about that.
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It's not like gizmodo doesn't have a positive reputation. They were questioned about it today and they indicated they were told at the press event that the features wouldn't come to the G1 moto x. It's also not uncommon for Companies to change their stance on certains things as well. The next thing we should wonder (non moto related) is whether or not Sony remote play will come to the Xperia Z2. It's as capable as the Z3. Maybe they'll change their stance on that as well if there is enough demand.
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photo caching has little to nothing to do with the sensor. it has to do with processing power and RAM allocation. a dedicated camera (even SLR) that can take multiple shots per second will run in to buffering issues once you've reached the max threshold (bottleneck in file writing/caching).
frankly i don't see why the camera apk couldn't come to the old X. the high-level description was that it basically takes three pictures. to do this, the phone has to cache frames of rolling images and save them once you hit the shutter. based on the description, it's buffering 3 frames out of possible 60/s (i don't see it being higher than that). so technically your shot would take all of 3s to snap, save and preview.
i'd like to see more demo/reviews on this tech to find out if my assumptions are correct.
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Ah gotcha. Thought maybe it had something to do with shutter speed.
Quite frankly I'm looking forward to the new X. I know some people are grumbling about the size increase(rightfully so), but that's where the market is going. I see more people holding huge Samsung devices than any other, including iPhones(which I used to see everywhere). In fact, on my team of 13 here at work, only 4 have iPhones. The rest all have Galaxy phones... Excluding me of course, who made the right choice.
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Ah gotcha. Thought maybe it had something to do with shutter speed.
Quite frankly I'm looking forward to the new X. I know some people are grumbling about the size increase(rightfully so), but that's where the market is going. I see more people holding huge Samsung devices than any other, including iPhones(which I used to see everywhere). In fact, on my team of 13 here at work, only 4 have iPhones. The rest all have Galaxy phones... Excluding me of course, who made the right choice.
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I came to Moto X from the HTC One M7. The new camera features in the new moto x sound like a subset of what the HTC One has. While they are nifty, I don't really miss them. The most useful is the highlight clip. However, I can get that from G+ Photos' auto-awesome. The number one feature on the moto x that I find indispensable is Touchless Control, so I sure hope the new Moto Voice will come to gen 1 moto x.
Does anyone have apk?
Got an update today but everything still says touchless control, aside from the play store. Haven't had a chance to test it out yet.
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Does the Nuance Dragon Assistant work with the Moto X? Are we locked into using the Google Now if we want to talk with the X? Google is awesome, but Nuance has been working with speech recognition a long time. And they have programs out for Windows PCs. I know talking to a Jarvis is still a distant future. Competition is important, right?
Does Moto X have the right stuff to be competitive for 2 years? I've heard the stats aren't as impressive as was originally expected. I've also heard that stats alone aren't what makes the phone set apart from the pack. I'm not that interested in option to change up the designs. Talking to the phone is amazing, but if Dragon Assistant isn't on board then I'll reconsider.
AT&T: With a 2 year extension of contract, we're paying $200, plus some tax, upgrade/activation fee, and case. So, let's round up to $300. $300 plus the ongoing price of the month to month service. Am I going to be happy with the Moto X's performance with the needs upcoming apps will have?
I am with AT&T and might move from the Dell Streak 5. I love Dell Streak, but if I use it everyday I'll break that big screen. Which is why I'm not a big fan of the Galaxy s4 or even the HTC One. I can keep the Streak and swap SIM cards with the smaller Moto X as needed.
Love to hear your thoughts.
I can't really speak for 2-year performance, but it's super fast and buttery right now. More so than other, higher-specced phones, which are bogged down by stuff like touchwiz. Motorola did a really nice job with the optimizations. Dragon dictation does work but afaik you can't use it with touchless controls.
Also, it feels really nice in the hand.
Thanks to your post, I just discovered a completely new way to talk to my phone! I just installed Dragon and turned on the "listen in background" mode. Since the microphones are always on, dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!! This is pretty awesome!
Thanks for the great find!
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I can't really speak for 2-year performance, but it's super fast and buttery right now. More so than other, higher-specced phones, which are bogged down by stuff like touchwiz. Motorola did a really nice job with the optimizations. Dragon dictation does work but afaik you can't use it with touchless controls.
Also, it feels really nice in the hand.
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Thanks to your post, I just discovered a completely new way to talk to my phone! I just installed Dragon and turned on the "listen in background" mode. Since the microphones are always on, dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!! This is pretty awesome!
Thanks for the great find!
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Alright....I'm getting some mixed messages here. "Can't use it with touchless controls"? That sucks! But wait...."dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!!" ??
buttery..:laugh:
Sorry, I didn't realize that Dragon had its own "listen in background" mode. So you can't use it instead of google now for the "ok google now" thing, but you can use dragon's own mode to activate it touchlessly.
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Alright....I'm getting some mixed messages here. "Can't use it with touchless controls"? That sucks! But wait...."dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!!" ??
buttery..:laugh:
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Yeah! I'm playing around with it now! I customized the wake-up phrase to be "Yo google" and have the "background wake-up" option ticked. I don't know about other phones, but I presume because the Moto X has always on mics, having Dragon using the mics all the time isn't much of a battery drain. It is true that you can't use it in conjunction with touchless controls, but in all honesty, moto's touchless controls aren't that great. Dragon is much more accurate and you can customize the key phrase!
Also, regarding your previous concerns; I really recommend the moto x. It's really the smoothest phone on the market right now and with google at the head, I can guarantee that updates will keep the Moto running smooth as it is right now. I mentioned that touchless controls were kind of meh (they trigger quite a bit even without saying "ok google now"), but active notifications are really the deal sealer here. I honestly can't live without active notifications anymore; it's just incredibly convenient.
Active notifications are amazing, hopefully Moto will add some improvements to the touchless controls with future updates
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Active notifications are amazing, hopefully Moto will add some improvements to the touchless controls with future updates
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Alright..you two are good salespeople. I'll work on scrounging up the $600 or so.
I just finished a contract with AT&T, and I don't think I'm interested in signing another contract. My lifestyle for the next year will provide me with plenty of wifi to supplement the 2G cap pre-paid AT&T allows @$60/month. And the other deal in town is StraightTalk @$45/month also with a 2G cap, even though they say its unlimited.
I hear the Moto X price is going to drop some. I hope that Iphone C(heap) phone sells like hotcakes and the Moto X price rolls back.
Thank you for the follow up on the Dragon bit.:highfive: I even thought about calling Naunce Dragon to ask them.
Does it keep the phone awake? Or is this using the benefits of the NLP?
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Does it keep the phone awake? Or is this using the benefits of the NLP?
I'm still guessing that the Dragon always-listening mode takes up a lot of battery as it would on a "normal" phone. tl;dr I don't think it takes advantage of X's X8 always listening chip.
The below quotes are from my communications with the Nuance Mobility Zen Desk (https://nuancemobility.zendesk.com).
Me: Does Dragon Assistant work with Moto X the same way Google Now works with Moto X?
I'm thinking about buying the Moto X. However, I'm unable to find any information about the "touchless" features working with Dragon Assistant.
Moto X runs on Android 4.2.2. The touchless features focus on Google Now and a processor dedicated to an "always listening" microphone.
Moto X specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php
Their response: Hello,
Thank you for contacting us,
I can not really comment on how Google now is integrated with moto X. However, I can tell you about Dragon Mobile Assistant functionality.
Dragon does have "always listening" functionality under which the device can be accessed touch-less. This functionality is called "Driver mode".
More feature of Dragon Mobile Assistant can be checked at: http://www.dragonmobileapps.com/
Regards,
Nuance Mobility Support
Me: Under Driver Mode, the Dragon Assistant will make use of the always on micrphones, then correct? Instead of saying "ok Google" to start up the device's Google Now app I can say a.phrase designated by Dragon Assistant. Is that correct?
The Moto X carries three always-on Wolfson microphones that constantly listen for the words "OK Google Now," to turn on a "Touchless Control" system, waking up the handset for voice commands and searching via Google Now. Source: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/28/motox_teardown_onshoring_handset_costs/
Their response: Yes, Under driver mode, Dragon Assistant will be always using device microphones for continuously listening for customized wake-up command.
Regards,
Nuance Mobility Support
Does it seem like I'm asking a very specific question and getting a very general answer to anyone else? I thought I was very clear.
The Nuance Mobility Team must have politicians working for them.
Take a read of the reviews for the Maxx/Ultra/X! They are stellar. I disabled Google search & this works better. I like using my Jawbone headset button.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nuance.balerion&hl=en
I will say, functionally, I enjoy this far more than moto's touchless controls. But boy does it suck down the battery! Maybe if I was on a stock rom with the stock kernel, somehow some magic would happen and it would use the passive listening that's built in, but at least on AOSP based ROMs, in my experience, this thing will eat juice. i'm 15h on battery, 1.5h screen on, and 20%. 55% of the battery drain is from Dragon.
I think I'll keep it for driving, but maybe not for having on all the time.
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Take a read of the reviews for the Maxx/Ultra/X! They are stellar. I disabled Google search & this works better. I like using my Jawbone headset button.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nuance.balerion&hl=en
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Path A
Want to use touchless for BT only activation, you cannot. Constant listening or no BT.
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Use Dragon for BT only, have touchless off & have listening only at BT button activation.
This is my second "Try" at the android world. I tried out that HTC one X+ last year and had nothing but problems and switched to an Iphone 5.
I am having an issue receiving texts from iphone users (working on that now). Other than that i'm pretty happy with the phone. Speaker quality is a little worse however I expected that. Audio quality while playing through play music was better than iphone IMO (big suprise there).
The otterbox seems well built, however the one for the Iphone 5 is a nicer product, any recommendations for a similar case? I'm a big fisherman and clumsy guy so who knows what will happen.
I still have the crappy camera update (ATT) so I will post some side by side pics there. Any tips on apps other than the normal fb/reddit?
Thanks!
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This is my second "Try" at the android world. I tried out that HTC one X+ last year and had nothing but problems and switched to an Iphone 5.
I am having an issue receiving texts from iphone users (working on that now). Other than that i'm pretty happy with the phone. Speaker quality is a little worse however I expected that. Audio quality while playing through play music was better than iphone IMO (big suprise there).
The otterbox seems well built, however the one for the Iphone 5 is a nicer product, any recommendations for a similar case? I'm a big fisherman and clumsy guy so who knows what will happen.
I still have the crappy camera update (ATT) so I will post some side by side pics there. Any tips on apps other than the normal fb/reddit?
Thanks!
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Your receiving texts from iPhone users is probably them being sent to your iMessage account by default... but seems like you might already be aware of this.
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Your receiving texts from iPhone users is probably them being sent to your iMessage account by default... but seems like you might already be aware of this.
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Yeah I should be good now!!
Holy crap swype rocks
A friend of mine cannot text me from his Iphone, however another friend can. It may be going through my e-mail still. Any tips?
Give it time for the cases to come out. Welcome to android. I'm using qmadix case which is a pretty good build but it doesn't have the rugged otter box protection. Also, if you take the time to learn about everything your new phone can do over the iphone you don't ever switch back. Not that iphones aren't amazing because their product is great but if you like making your phone the way you like it, android is the way to go. Most of the apps are pretty similar unless you root your phone and start tweaking it. Maybe someone else knows more android only type apps.
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Give it time for the cases to come out. Welcome to android. I'm using qmadix case which is a pretty good build but it doesn't have the rugged otter box protection. Also, if you take the time to learn about everything your new phone can do over the iphone you don't ever switch back. Not that iphones aren't amazing because their product is great but if you like making your phone the way you like it, android is the way to go. Most of the apps are pretty similar unless you root your phone and start tweaking it. Maybe someone else knows more android only type apps.
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Familiar with root and such with my n7 which really turned me onto the android world. The screen is a little bigger than the iphone, however the nexus 5 may be worth the wait.
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Holy crap swype rocks
A friend of mine cannot text me from his Iphone, however another friend can. It may be going through my e-mail still. Any tips?
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I just read an article about this but I can't remember where. Was an apple issue with phone numbers still being associated with imessage
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Turn on Imessge
Edit; sorry pressed enter too fast on the app
Get an iPhone. Turn on imessage. Make sure you give it enough time to fully activate. Send an imessage to said friend
Turn off imessage send text message from iPhone to said friend
Works ?
Go back to moto x. Should be good
Had the same issue with the same phones.
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1eli said:
Turn on Imessge
Edit; sorry pressed enter too fast on the app
Get an iPhone. Turn on imessage. Make sure you give it enough time to fully activate. Send an imessage to said friend
Turn off imessage send text message from iPhone to said friend
Works ?
Go back to moto x. Should be good
Had the same issue with the same phones.
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came here to say this. When my gf's mom switched she had the same issues and Apple didn't even want to help her. She kept telling them her msgs won't come through because they are going to imsg and now she has a galaxy. Apple basically told her it's an android phone and blew her off.
When my gf updated I turned imsg off before had and she hasn't had a single issue. May be a PITA but either get apple customer service to turn that feature off in your acct or get an iOS device on wifi and enable/disable it.
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Swype is the main reason I switched from an iphone 5 back to android lol. That, and Moto X is a beautiful piece of hardware.
I type like a handicap without swype. It's the original way I learned how to type on a smartphone lol. I can also swype a lot faster with one hand then most people type with two.
I don't like Android at all, but being able to type fast is more important to me for the time being.
Android itself is a flawed OS. If it wasn't for XDA I would have never owned an Android device. A lot of the developers on here create tweaks, ROM's, hacks that enhance the device in simple intuitive ways, so much that it puts Google to shame (yea I said it). I mean how in the bloody hell has volume button longpress to change track NOT been implemented in all official ROM's yet? It's so intuitive, easy to implement, test and apply. They built a trillion dollar empire selling the only mobile operating system that still lags in 2013 on EPIC hardware - mind you. I'm sure 99% of people on XDA will disagree with me because MOST people don't notice these things. But for me it drives me absolutely bananas when any 6-$700 Android device in 2013 has less GUI fluidity (in both OS and third party apps) then my first generation dual core Athlon64 PC with 1GB single channel ddr1 memory. I built that system in 2005. Comparing any Android device to any WP7.5, WP8 or ios4+ device in terms of transition animation fluidity and vertical scrolling fluidity is downright embarrassing.
I suppose that's what happens when you build an empire on top of a a landfill :laugh:
Given, the Moto X is definitely the best Android device released to date IMHO.
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Swype is the main reason I switched from an iphone 5 back to android lol. That, and Moto X is a beautiful piece of hardware.
I type like a handicap without swype. It's the original way I learned how to type on a smartphone lol. I can also swype a lot faster with one hand then most people type with two.
I don't like Android at all, but being able to type fast is more important to me for the time being.
Android itself is a flawed OS. If it wasn't for XDA I would have never owned an Android device. A lot of the developers on here create tweaks, ROM's, hacks that enhance the device in simple intuitive ways, so much that it puts Google to shame (yea I said it). I mean how in the bloody hell has volume button longpress to change track NOT been implemented in all official ROM's yet? It's so intuitive, easy to implement, test and apply. They built a trillion dollar empire selling the only mobile operating system that still lags in 2013 on EPIC hardware - mind you. I'm sure 99% of people on XDA will disagree with me because MOST people don't notice these things. But for me it drives me absolutely bananas when any 6-$700 Android device in 2013 has less GUI fluidity (in both OS and third party apps) then my first generation dual core Athlon64 PC with 1GB single channel ddr1 memory. I build that system in 2005. Comparing any WP7.5, WP8 or ios device to android in terms of transition animation fluidity and vertical scrolling fluidity is downright embarrassing.
I suppose that's what happens when you build an empire on top of a a landfill :laugh:
Given, the Moto X is definitely the best Android device released to date IMHO.
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apple builds one os for one phone with one set of hardware for a pretty similar customer base generally. google builds one OS to send to 100s of phone companies for thousands of phones with millions of different piece of hardware. Those phone companies then implement their own layers of software over it. The way the process is just makes it more difficult. While I agree on some points with you, I think they do a pretty good job considering what they are up against. If google makes an os with all of the tweaks gismos and gadgets then trys to send it to the phone companeis and deal with making what they want to do work with what google's OS does, there would probably be way more issues than we currently have.
edit: I made many generalizations so feel free not to pick and choose little tid bits of info to say how I'm wrong because it was more of just a general synopsis as opposed to an exact layout of how things are.
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apple builds one os for one phone with one set of hardware for a pretty similar customer base generally. google builds one OS to send to 100s of phone companies for thousands of phones with millions of different piece of hardware. Those phone companies then implement their own layers of software over it. The way the process is just makes it more difficult. While I agree on some points with you, I think they do a pretty good job considering what they are up against. If google makes an os with all of the tweaks gismos and gadgets then trys to send it to the phone companeis and deal with making what they want to do work with what google's OS does, there would probably be way more issues than we currently have.
edit: I made many generalizations so feel free not to pick and choose little tid bits of info to say how I'm wrong because it was more of just a general synopsis as opposed to an exact layout of how things are.
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I agree.
I'm not trying to be a **** but like... that explanation, that issue, that situation won't make my phone any faster. I understand there are reasons for this problem. But the problem is not fixed.
Come to think of it look at Windows Phones man. WP7.5 and 8 are pretty much the most fluid operating systems I've ever tried, regardless of device. You can find low, mid and high end WP devices. And they are all fluid, responsive and don't drop frames or stutter when scrolling vertically. Not always for the super low end models but you get my point. And I've tried the low end ones in the store as well. If there's one thing MS got right in the smartphone world, it's definitely the fluidity. I'm sorry but if MS can do it, Google could do it as well. But let's face it, you know as well as I do that companies won't change unless people stop buying. And most people don't seem to mind the lack of fluidity and if they do they are using iphones.
And another issue is the lack of...quality play store apps - even the popular ones with 10m+ downloads. Because that dev environment is not as restricted as ios, you see a lot of popular apps like the NOTORIOUS Facebook that takes us back to our windows 95 days where smooth scrolling was a rare phenomenon. In fact I can most likely count on one hand, the amount of times in a day that I have scrolled vertically in FB app without any lag/frame drop/stuttering. People want to say that this is not Google's fault. How is it not their fault if they ALLOWED these poorly done ios ports to make it on the Google Play Store by not posing that many restrictions.
You're absolutely right about the apps. Is really bad. There are some gorgeous android apps that conform to android design guidelines, but most of the main, most popular apps are nothing but iOS ports and look and run like sh*t on android.
As far as fluidity goes, I'm just not seeing it. I have zero lag on the moto x. I didn't have any lag on my nexus 4 either. If you're talking about scrolling in the browser, try dolphin or some other browser.
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You're absolutely right about the apps. Is really bad. There are some gorgeous android apps that conform to android design guidelines, but most of the main, most popular apps are nothing but iOS ports and look and run like sh*t on android.
As far as fluidity goes, I'm just not seeing it. I have zero lag on the moto x. I didn't have any lag on my nexus 4 either. If you're talking about scrolling in the browser, try dolphin or some other browser.
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Yes the over all UI is fast. Google did a really good job in that but my concern is about the apps that i use on day to day basis like facebook and twitter. May be coming from an iphone 5 caused this issue as everything on it was buttery smooth not the same in the case of android. There is a third party app for twitter like echofon which is super smooth as in ios but official apps still suck. I hope this would change in coming days. Facebook in browser is smooth and app sucks with dropped framerate and lag.
I have some specific examples:
open dialer, stutters once halfway through the transition animation, regardless if it was running in the background or not
open email, stutters once near the end of the transition animation. opened email again, got a graphical glitch where it bypassed the transition animation completely
scrolling in gmail stutters sometime depending on scroll speed. mid to high speed scrolling stutters. only drops one frame it seems but I can notice it
the first time you start Settings, it skips a frame in the transition animation, after that it's smooth
in google drive if you click on an item and click back, it bypasses all transition and loading animation and roughly reverts to the previous screen
scrolling in sms app drops frames at certain points in scrolling. not as much as other apps, but it definitely does it
scrolling through my alarms slow to mid speed results in back to back stutters until the scrolling stops.
maps stutters when you press locate button while it speeds to your current location. also stutters during transition animation on first open. The ios app google maps is FLUID and butter smooth
gmail widget froze for 1 second while scrolling
Play store stutters consistently while scrolling.
The number of apps that stutter/lag on my iphone 5 (100+ apps) = 0 (zero)
I can't be the only one that notices these things.
sravanz said:
Yes the over all UI is fast. Google did a really good job in that but my concern is about the apps that i use on day to day basis like facebook and twitter. May be coming from an iphone 5 caused this issue as everything on it was buttery smooth not the same in the case of android. There is a third party app for twitter like echofon which is super smooth as in ios but official apps still suck. I hope this would change in coming days. Facebook in browser is smooth and app sucks with dropped framerate and lag.
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I don't do Facebook anymore, but when I did, I used friendcaster... It was very very smooth and had more features.
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I have some specific examples:
open dialer, stutters once halfway through the transition animation, regardless if it was running in the background or not
open email, stutters once near the end of the transition animation. opened email again, got a graphical glitch where it bypassed the transition animation completely
scrolling in gmail stutters sometime depending on scroll speed. mid to high speed scrolling stutters. only drops one frame it seems but I can notice it
the first time you start Settings, it skips a frame in the transition animation, after that it's smooth
in google drive if you click on an item and click back, it bypasses all transition and loading animation and roughly reverts to the previous screen
scrolling in sms app drops frames at certain points in scrolling. not as much as other apps, but it definitely does it
scrolling through my alarms slow to mid speed results in back to back stutters until the scrolling stops.
maps stutters when you press locate button while it speeds to your current location. also stutters during transition animation on first open. The ios app google maps is FLUID and butter smooth
gmail widget froze for 1 second while scrolling
Play store stutters consistently while scrolling.
The number of apps that stutter/lag on my iphone 5 (100+ apps) = 0 (zero)
I can't be the only one that notices these things.
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I'm not kidding when I say I really don't notice but that is probably just because I don't care that much. Scrolling animation I do care about, but I just don't really notice that bad of scrolling animation for much. I mean I hate facebook but I don't use that. And chrome just launched recently so I'm actually pretty impressed with its fluidity at this stage in the development.
But for all that stuff I still think it goes back to my original post. I really don't know how many phones are running windows operating system but I don't feel like it is a lot. They also don't get android apps do they? aren't they getting windows base apps so they don't have to deal with all the issues that come with letting people create apps.
To the issue of google not moderating their app's in google play the way apple does. Apple has one or 5 phones with standard hardware. You will see apps that run perfectly on one android phone but not another. I don't believe google would be able to set criteria that would make all android apps work perfectly on all thousand of devices with thousands of different softwares on them. I'm not saying android are better, as much as I'm saying apple has it so easy. Google can't even control all the software phone companies overlay on their android OS or what hardware they use.
Finally, Ill take the bad with good. I prefer an open app market where someone can create something like better battery stats just because they felt like it and not have to jump through a million hoops. Turns out i has become extremely useful. And if the app sucks let it die. Don't use it. Capitalism lol.
But clearly no one can argue that apple products are not smoother and won't always be smoother than android products. Arguments can be made for nexus and other phones that are built purely for the android OS, but the apps being developed are being developed to work on all android products not just stock android Nexus's so they still will get lag from certain things.
Windows phone is different, closer to iOS. Remember Microsoft forces any manufacturer who makes a wp device to use a specific CPU, specific ram, etc. The OS is written for one device configuration, and just the screen tech can change. Same as Apple basically. I remember when all windows phones were forced to use the Qualcomm 1ghz snapdragon which let's the OS be perfectly optimized to the hardware.
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I have some specific examples:
open dialer, stutters once halfway through the transition animation, regardless if it was running in the background or not
open email, stutters once near the end of the transition animation. opened email again, got a graphical glitch where it bypassed the transition animation completely
scrolling in gmail stutters sometime depending on scroll speed. mid to high speed scrolling stutters. only drops one frame it seems but I can notice it
the first time you start Settings, it skips a frame in the transition animation, after that it's smooth
in google drive if you click on an item and click back, it bypasses all transition and loading animation and roughly reverts to the previous screen
scrolling in sms app drops frames at certain points in scrolling. not as much as other apps, but it definitely does it
scrolling through my alarms slow to mid speed results in back to back stutters until the scrolling stops.
maps stutters when you press locate button while it speeds to your current location. also stutters during transition animation on first open. The ios app google maps is FLUID and butter smooth
gmail widget froze for 1 second while scrolling
Play store stutters consistently while scrolling.
The number of apps that stutter/lag on my iphone 5 (100+ apps) = 0 (zero)
I can't be the only one that notices these things.
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You're not the only one, most Android users are in denial or have never given the iPhone a chance, I was one of those Android users until I picked up an iPhone 4 a few years ago to resell and decided to give it a try before getting rid of it. I have since had the 4S and the 5. All throughout, I tried going back to android with the GS2, GS3, GS4, Nexus 4, HTC One X, HTC One and now the Moto X. The full Samsung lineup was just terrible and laggy, couldn't stand using either of them for over a week, the HTC one was pretty smooth and the UI was bearable but the phone was physically awkward, the Nexus 4 lasted a day but only because it didn't have LTE, the Moto X is the best Android experience I have had all around, only complaints are attention to detail from Motorola like the wifi icon gap and the terrible AT&T logo (all can be fixed on a rooted device). I see myself hanging on to this phone for a while (I hope). Might just get a 5S for a second device though.
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You're not the only one, most Android users are in denial or have never given the iPhone a chance, I was one of those Android users until I picked up an iPhone 4 a few years ago to resell and decided to give it a try before getting rid of it. I have since had the 4S and the 5. All throughout, I tried going back to android with the GS2, GS3, GS4, Nexus 4, HTC One X, HTC One and now the Moto X. The full Samsung lineup was just terrible and laggy, couldn't stand using either of them for over a week, the HTC one was pretty smooth and the UI was bearable but the phone was physically awkward, the Nexus 4 lasted a day but only because it didn't have LTE, the Moto X is the best Android experience I have had all around, only complaints are attention to detail from Motorola like the wifi icon gap and the terrible AT&T logo (all can be fixed on a rooted device). I see myself hanging on to this phone for a while (I hope). Might just get a 5S for a second device though.
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I actually find the inverse to be true. The vast majority of android users I know all started out on iOS, myself included... However few iOS users I know have ever tried Android... Perhaps for a day or two then reverted.
The plane fact is that Google/Android does not control the manufacturers desire for hardware, wherein, both wp and apple have a strict doctrine for hardware specs... Even with Windows phones, many have very similar specs or types of hardware technologies that wp7 are specifically designed for. Look what happened when wp7 launched... Nothing was supported, app wise, from previous os versions... This speaks to how much wp is compartmentalized, even though it appears to have a variety of device choices.
This is the trade off that we Android users accept, a truly vast array of device types, having virtually any pick and combination of hardware we want, with an endless supply of new devices, but this leads to fragmentation... Jb really targeted this issue and has done amazing things to close the software compatibility issues between devices from both ends of the spectrum... And I believe it will only get better with each new android version.
Personally, I'll take a little stutter hear and there ( haven't seen a touch of it with the moto x btw) than be told what hardware and what software I can have...
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In latest Nexus 5, We could say " OK GOOGLE" to search in google now. Is it possible to take this function to next level by integrating Moto X voice control- Since Nexus 5 hardware has a always listening chip, will it be easy for devs to poet this feature.
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Moto x does that. You just have to install the new launcher with the new Google search app from the nexus 5. Look over in themes and app threads.
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Does the Nexus 5 have the low-power linguistics chip?
i didnt think it had the same X8 computing system. pretty sure thats the key behind the truely always listening feature of moto x vs screen on always listening aspect of the new google launcher.
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In latest Nexus 5, We could say " OK GOOGLE" to search in google now. Is it possible to take this function to next level by integrating Moto X voice control- Since Nexus 5 hardware has a always listening chip, will it be easy for devs to poet this feature.
Thank You
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Can we port this feature to nexus 5
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Does the Nexus 5 have the low-power linguistics chip?
i didnt think it had the same X8 computing system. pretty sure thats the key behind the truely always listening feature of moto x vs screen on always listening aspect of the new google launcher.
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It's not the X8, but the Snapdragon 800 in N5 has similar capability built in to the chip itself.
I'm going to say no. The moto x uses a totally different chip to get it done plus the always listening on the moto x is not open source. Any Dev would have a really really hard time getting that to work, if they could at all.
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hey there
is there a way to remote control my razr i with my old milestone 2?
Would be great to have my razr in the pocket, listening to songs, while typing mails, events and notes on the faboulous hardkeys of the milestone 2 without installing another SIM.
I prefer the hardkeys very much to onscreen keys, but they've gone off the market I guess....
Thanks for your help!
cheers from zurich
roymental said:
hey there
is there a way to remote control my razr i with my old milestone 2?
Would be great to have my razr in the pocket, listening to songs, while typing mails, events and notes on the faboulous hardkeys of the milestone 2 without installing another SIM.
I prefer the hardkeys very much to onscreen keys, but they've gone off the market I guess....
Thanks for your help!
cheers from zurich
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Interesting idea, but it's kind of funny... Controlling one phone with another one - makes one of them pointless then, doesn't it?
But I sure wish some manufacturer (preferrably Moto) came back to the hardware keyboard concept and improved upon it. I had the Milestone for a couple of months and having an actual hardware keyboard ROCKS. Especially if your main language of typing has many cases and is highly inflectional, as Serbian (Serbo-Croatian) is...
Should we write to Motorola? Start a petition?
Sorry for not answering your question, though :angel:
niksy+ said:
Interesting idea, but it's kind of funny... Controlling one phone with another one - makes one of them pointless then, doesn't it?
But I sure wish some manufacturer (preferrably Moto) came back to the hardware keyboard concept and improved upon it. I had the Milestone for a couple of months and having an actual hardware keyboard ROCKS. Especially if your main language of typing has many cases and is highly inflectional, as Serbian is...
Should we write to Motorola? Start a petition?
Sorry for not answering your question, though :angel:
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well..we are neighbors, I live in zagreb..so we share the same language, and i couldn't agree more with you - we need physical keyboards back
there were some rumours around new moto phone with keyboard, but I don't know what happened to that
i had milestone 1&2, backflip, flipout and dext -> all phones with qwerty keys, and i do surely miss high end phone with keypad, preferably from motorola, of course
ps. sorry for offtopic
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well..we are neighbors, I live in zagreb..so we share the same language, and i couldn't agree more with you - we need physical keyboards back
there were some rumours around new moto phone with keyboard, but I don't know what happened to that
i had milestone 1&2, backflip, flipout and dext -> all phones with qwerty keys, and i do surely miss high end phone with keypad, preferably from motorola, of course
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There were rumours about a new Droid/Milestone last year, but that was it... Nobody from Motorola ever mentioned they will be working on a new qwerty hw keyboard phone.
I've looked into the matter more deeply a couple of months ago and I found many tech bloggers talking about their wishes for a new high-spec'ed qwerty phone, but most seemed to agree that it probably will not happen, since it just became an obsolete idea...somehow. Not sure how at all, since there are MANY of us who want it and yet none of the manufacturers give any attention to it.
If Moto get to it and made a new well-designed and great-spec'ed phone with a slide out keyboard, that would be my next phone 100%. Maybe we should start an online petition to let them know what we think. Anyone interested to attend to it?
Because I really think it's unlikely that they will be announcing a new qwerty phone together with the new Droid line-up this year....
P.S. Edited my previous post to make it more neighbourhood friendly. I may be young (22) but I still find it to be the same language, only two different dialects. But let's not go into any (anti-)nationalism talk...
roymental said:
Would be great to have my razr in the pocket, listening to songs, while typing mails, events and notes on the faboulous hardkeys of the milestone 2 without installing another SIM.
I prefer the hardkeys very much to onscreen keys, but they've gone off the market I guess....
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Why not using a Bluetooth Keyboard? You can play music in background too...
And you can have the hole screen while writing...
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Why not using a Bluetooth Keyboard? You can play music in background too...
And you can have the hole screen while writing...
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Yeah, that's more or less what I mean. But more like Airdroid for another droid, with a mirrored screen.
I couldn't use the mile2 for everyday business anymore cause it's too slow (though it works fairly good with the miui rom) , but I thought it might be sufficient just as a remote & mirror function.
A bluetooth keyboard would mean I'd need two devices on the table. My idea was more to use the benefits of the hardkeys when on my way somewhere and leave the razr in the pocket when typing.
Btw. I'm desperately seeking for a reason to still use my miley2 I just can't let go of it....
Probably I'll stick to Motorola forever for some reason I don't really know....
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niksy+ said:
There were rumours about a new Droid/Milestone last year, but that was it... Nobody from Motorola ever mentioned they will be working on a new qwerty hw keyboard phone.
I've looked into the matter more deeply a couple of months ago and I found many tech bloggers talking about their wishes for a new high-spec'ed qwerty phone, but most seemed to agree that it probably will not happen, since it just became an obsolete idea...somehow. Not sure how at all, since there are MANY of us who want it and yet none of the manufacturers give any attention to it.
If Moto get to it and made a new well-designed and great-spec'ed phone with a slide out keyboard, that would be my next phone 100%. Maybe we should start an online petition to let them know what we think. Anyone interested to attend to it?
Because I really think it's unlikely that they will be announcing a new qwerty phone together with the new Droid line-up this year....
P.S. Edited my previous post to make it more neighbourhood friendly. I may be young (22) but I still find it to be the same language, only two different dialects. But let's not go into any (anti-)nationalism talk...
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hell yeah, I'm in for an online petition.
that would be my next phone too. thanks for sharing your insight!
And everything anti-nationalism is fine if you ask me if it's even worth mentioning here... I think that there's rarely any geek, coder or real hacker by nature who's flying with the right wing :cyclops:
roymental said:
hell yeah, I'm in for an online petition.
that would be my next phone too. thanks for sharing your insight!
And everything anti-nationalism is fine if you ask me if it's even worth mentioning here... I think that there's rarely any geek, coder or real hacker by nature who's flying with the right wing :cyclops:
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Care to start it, then? Or perhaps we should get someone from the US to start the petition? Motorola is still a US based company, as far as I know... And their two current strongholds are the States and India, if I'm not mistaken. I'm just saying that I'm not sure how much they care for the European market at the moment.
One more thing off topic - is that Gingerbread MIUI you're talking about? Because any post Gingerbread MIUI rom sucked the life out of my Defy, which has the same hw as the M2... Anyway, if you haven't checked out CM11 on the M2 already, maybe you should give it a shot, it worked very good on the Defy.
niksy+ said:
Care to start it, then? Or perhaps we should get someone from the US to start the petition? Motorola is still a US based company, as far as I know... And their two current strongholds are the States and India, if I'm not mistaken. I'm just saying that I'm not sure how much they care for the European market at the moment.
One more thing off topic - is that Gingerbread MIUI you're talking about? Because any post Gingerbread MIUI rom sucked the life out of my Defy, which has the same hw as the M2... Anyway, if you haven't checked out CM11 on the M2 already, maybe you should give it a shot, it worked very good on the Defy.
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I use this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614328
I think battery life is not bad. Thanks for the hint! I'm going to try out that one!
I was using tezets cm9 nightlies for a while; fast but not very reliable, so I eventually preferd the miui-one, which is totally stable.
Don't know about starting the petition myself; I'm from switzerland, don't know any US-motorola-citizens so far... maybe we'll find someone in the forums?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-urbane-2
Thanks to @jinkerz9430 for voting up for us, I see its a tag not a forum, but its something.
How we add the tag? I'm in advanced editor, don't see any way to add a tag?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-urbane-2
Thanks to @jinkerz9430 for voting up for us to get our own forum.
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Is not an exact forum but it is way better than having all on the 1st edition urbane forum. So yeah. Cheers lol. Nevertheless, my watch will arrive in 3 days however, i see there is no root for it. Although, i dont think that rooting a smartwatch is actually necessary, and even less if one uses android pay (since android pay requires an unrooted device)
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Is not an exact forum but it is way better than having all on the 1st edition urbane forum. So yeah. Cheers lol. Nevertheless, my watch will arrive in 3 days however, i see there is no root for it. Although, i dont think that rooting a smartwatch is actually necessary, and even less if one uses android pay (since android pay requires an unrooted device)
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Yes its not yet got all the structure yet but its a step in right direction, as per my forum request the UB and UB2 are very different.
I can't seem to subscribe to it.
nigelhealy said:
Yes its not yet got all the structure yet but its a step in right direction, as per my forum request the UB and UB2 are very different.
I can't seem to subscribe to it.
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I see they havent even created a normal forum. i mean when you click on all forums, you see all the devices that has independent forums. Yet when you use the find function in chrome or firefox to type urbane, it just appear urbane and not the urbane 2nd edition . So... for the time being, it is recommended to save it as a bookmark for fast accessing.
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Is not an exact forum but it is way better than having all on the 1st edition urbane forum. So yeah. Cheers lol. Nevertheless, my watch will arrive in 3 days however, i see there is no root for it. Although, i dont think that rooting a smartwatch is actually necessary, and even less if one uses android pay (since android pay requires an unrooted device)
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Thanks, now I look again it is not a forum, it is a tag, and I can't see how to tag
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I see they havent even created a normal forum. i mean when you click on all forums, you see all the devices that has independent forums. Yet when you use the find function in chrome or firefox to type urbane, it just appear urbane and not the urbane 2nd edition . So... for the time being, it is recommended to save it as a bookmark for fast accessing.
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now I look further its actually a step sideways, there's a thread which is useful to Huawei watch owners of ported watchfaces from the UB2 so a UB2 owner wouldnt be interested. So the tag is misleading.
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Thanks, now I look again it is not a forum, it is a tag, and I can't see how to tag
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when you are creating a new thread, you are always given the function to tag . its usually found on the lower left corner somewhere.
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now I look further its actually a step sideways, there's a thread which is useful to Huawei watch owners of ported watchfaces from the UB2 so a UB2 owner wouldnt be interested. So the tag is misleading.
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by the way, werent they going to release the final version of AW2.0 for the UB2? i thought it was at the beginning of may, but we are almost half way trough already
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when you are creating a new thread, you are always given the function to tag . its usually found on the lower left corner somewhere.
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by the way, werent they going to release the final version of AW2.0 for the UB2? i thought it was at the beginning of may, but we are almost half way trough already
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Google said late April to late May
"Watches that will receive Android Wear 2.0 end of April/late May - OTA starts end of April/beginning of May for some manufacturers throughout multiple weeks. Timelines differ per watch and manufacturer."
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From my experiementation with AW2 DP on UB2, I'd say the later the better, its buggy and battery drain, so let the "lucky" earlier AW devices shake out bugs I'd say. I downloaded the current AW1.5 just in case I upgraded too early so I can go back. In my case AW2 DP rendered the UB2 unusable at times, so later = fewer bugs + optimized.
This is silly, the Apple Watch is wiping the floor with AW, app support is better, battery life is better, Google it looking more of a joke each year with those expensive Pixel phones. Some people who really want a wearable are so prefering Apple Watch it making them switch to iphone, Yep google, you made a product so bad it drives people to your competitor, way to go google, way to go....
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Google said late April to late May
From my experiementation with AW2 DP on UB2, I'd say the later the better, its buggy and battery drain, so let the "lucky" earlier AW devices shake out bugs I'd say. I downloaded the current AW1.5 just in case I upgraded too early so I can go back. In my case AW2 rendered the UB2 unusable at times.
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so.. so far the best version is 1.5 for UB2?
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so.. so far the best version is 1.5 for UB2?
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So I've had my UB2 now for a few weeks, and I deliberately tried to push its limits, so I then know its limits and now work within its limits.
The fundamental problem is battery life, if you use it tethered to the phone, in BT distance mostly or the odd fallback to Wifi, then battery is good, I see a slow drain say 2%/hour for just notification filtering. If you try to use the UB2 AW2 capability to be a truly standalone mini-phone on your wrist, then battery life stinks, I was get 25%/hour. I played with the likes of the onscreen keyboard, the Play Store, but there were very few apps built for AW2, even the claimed Uber app had disappeared. Using it as a phone for talking, about 50%/hour battery drain and in my case it overheated and hung up the call!
The FAQ and the "support" from Google is terrible, you see they basically suggest resetting the watch as an answer to a problem and there are plenty of users complaining and its not even rolled out to that many yet.
The Apple Watch and the Samsung Gear S3 proves you get a decent product, just Google hasn't yet.
I've owned AW now for over 2 years, I have the Sony SmartWatch 3, it was doing good when I got it, then they did updates which enabled Wifi and it was really buggy battery draining for a couple of updates, now it is very good. So I'm thinking let the masses be suffered by AW2 and version 2.02 (whatever it is called) is the time to jump.
I bought my UB2 because its going to get AW2 and its only $180 or so, and so half the price of the LG Watch Sport which on paper looks extremely similar specs to the UB2.
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So I've had my UB2 now for a few weeks, and I deliberately tried to push its limits, so I then know its limits and now work within its limits.
The fundamental problem is battery life, if you use it tethered to the phone, in BT distance mostly or the odd fallback to Wifi, then battery is good, I see a slow drain say 2%/hour for just notification filtering. If you try to use the UB2 AW2 capability to be a truly standalone mini-phone on your wrist, then battery life stinks, I was get 25%/hour. I played with the likes of the onscreen keyboard, the Play Store, but there were very few apps built for AW2, even the claimed Uber app had disappeared. Using it as a phone for talking, about 50%/hour battery drain and in my case it overheated and hung up the call!
The FAQ and the "support" from Google is terrible, you see they basically suggest resetting the watch as an answer to a problem and there are plenty of users complaining and its not even rolled out to that many yet.
The Apple Watch and the Samsung Gear S3 proves you get a decent product, just Google hasn't yet.
I've owned AW now for over 2 years, I have the Sony SmartWatch 3, it was doing good when I got it, then they did updates which enabled Wifi and it was really buggy battery draining for a couple of updates, now it is very good. So I'm thinking let the masses be suffered by AW2 and version 2.02 (whatever it is called) is the time to jump.
I bought my UB2 because its going to get AW2 and its only $180 or so, and so half the price of the LG Watch Sport which on paper looks extremely similar specs to the UB2.
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But which version gave you the best battery life?
I'm not sure I could conclude, when on AW2 I was experimenting.