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Google Voice Search (Siri-clone) is overrated.

After watching several videos of it battling the Siri of iOS while I was awaiting my tablet, I was hyped about using this feature.
Now that I have had my tablet for almost almost a week now, it was overhyped and the accuracy was overblown in those videos on YouTube.
I know it's not my accent, since it gets my questions correctly, it just doesn't answer 'em.
I tried simple stuff too, like requesting for the current score of USA vs Korea in volleyball (when the game was going on), requesting for specific train times, requesting to see my calendar, asking it to see if I was busy on a certain day and time, and it just Google'd these questions, not telling me the answers (especially the last one; it Google'd "Am I busy at 4pm on this coming Monday?" instead of showing my calendar).
Hell even the simplest things like "show me my calendar" has it Googling that, and not actually showing me my calendar.
I've only ever successfully gotten it to tell me the weather, the time, set alarm, and tell me when the Olympics 2012 ends.
If Google Voice Search (or w/e they call it) is this bad, I wonder how bad Siri is, seeing how in those videos, Google beat Siri all the time.

Had a guy at work playing around with Siri, not very impressing, certainly nothing like the staged commercials. Technology is not there yet. I think that Dragon has a better voice recognition ability, (part of Swype Beta), but I have not played with their "Dragon Go" yet on my tablet. Didn't care for it much on my phone.

Printerscape said:
After watching several videos of it battling the Siri of iOS while I was awaiting my tablet, I was hyped about using this feature.
Now that I have had my tablet for almost almost a week now, it was overhyped and the accuracy was overblown in those videos on YouTube.
I know it's not my accent, since it gets my questions correctly, it just doesn't answer 'em.
I tried simple stuff too, like requesting for the current score of USA vs Korea in volleyball (when the game was going on), requesting for specific train times, requesting to see my calendar, asking it to see if I was busy on a certain day and time, and it just Google'd these questions, not telling me the answers (especially the last one; it Google'd "Am I busy at 4pm on this coming Monday?" instead of showing my calendar).
Hell even the simplest things like "show me my calendar" has it Googling that, and not actually showing me my calendar.
I've only ever successfully gotten it to tell me the weather, the time, set alarm, and tell me when the Olympics 2012 ends.
If Google Voice Search (or w/e they call it) is this bad, I wonder how bad Siri is, seeing how in those videos, Google beat Siri all the time.
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Siri answers a lot more of those types of questions, although it is definitely slower as the videos point out. Overall though, I rarely ask those questions anyways. I generally only ask about sports scores and weather or conversions, and a few more things.

I think they are both good at different things. Most of the YouTube videos I've seen seem to show of Google Nows speed a bit much. Hopefully what Google Now lacks.. now, it will make up for in later updates, assuming they are not harassed by Apple too much more.
I'd also like to mention that Google Now is not in any way a clone or copy of Siri. Voice recognition and human-like feedback have been strived towards since even before the USS-Enterprises computer did it in early Star-Trek Apple, or anyone recently claiming it was 'their idea' should be shot in the foot.

Didn't Google have to 'dumb' down their voice app because of the lawsuit Apple had against the Galaxy Nexus?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/29/apple-lands-preliminary-ban-against-samsung-galaxy-nexus/

burntcustard said:
Apple, or anyone recently claiming it was 'their idea' should be shot in the foot.
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In the foot? I can think of another, less elegant location.

Is does work alot better than siri in alot of ways, then again this stuff was available since froyo. I believe Google said all those features are coming back
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ynnek63 said:
Didn't Google have to 'dumb' down their voice app because of the lawsuit Apple had against the Galaxy Nexus?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/29/apple-lands-preliminary-ban-against-samsung-galaxy-nexus/
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They removed local search (i.e., showing apps and contacts, etc., along with off-device search) from ALL on-device search, because it was the integrated search functionality specifically that was the patent that the judge found most likely to be upheld. Not related directly to voice.

But atleast Google now is better then S voice lol, I removed it from my G note.... For some reason it never worked for me : /

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I think it's pretty good, it's very accurate for me even in noisy environments.

It's just not very complex in it's abilities, which I agree with a member above is due to it being young technology rather than overrated per say.
As it's part of my phone and I use it more, I still find Siri far more frustrating and inaccurate. Oddly a series of jailbreaks make it far more capable and I'm wondering if we'll ever see similar hacking on Android.
Somewhat related, I'm just glad Google allows for offline dictation as there's nothing more annoying than a voice assistant telling you it's unavailable because you're in bad service area.
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guthrien said:
It's just not very complex in it's abilities, which I agree with a member above is due to it being young technology rather than overrated per say.
As it's part of my phone and I use it more, I still find Siri far more frustrating and inaccurate. Oddly a series of jailbreaks make it far more capable and I'm wondering if we'll ever see similar hacking on Android.
Somewhat related, I'm just glad Google allows for offline dictation as there's nothing more annoying than a voice assistant telling you it's unavailable because you're in bad service area.
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Well, if not for the insanity that is Apple, it would have much more capabilities, but I find it pretty easy to use, accurate, and despite local search, pretty good.

Lolz, why people always believe that Apple make new things every time and now calling this Google now a siri clone.
Having used both siri and Google now, I think both are different and have different strength points and Google now doing more work than siri. Siri is more vocal though.
People think S voice is bad but I have found it more useful than siri and it can do device functions as well which siri can't.
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Google now isn't a siri clone and wasn't created to be one. Although I will admit that Google now works a lot better on my galaxy nexus, Google Now is pretty amazing. I love when I'm out somewhere that it tells me how much traffic I will have on my way home and will give me better directions.
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As somebody already said, the voice recognition is accurate but it just doesn't give you 'local' results. I tried to get it to display a book I have in Play Books or music in Play Music but it wouldn't open those apps. I use SpeakToIt Assistant, which seems to be much better at playing your music, reading calendar, sending SMS's (on my Sensation), etc.

I think it runs better actually... Tried it out next to an iPhone 4s and asked them both the questions at the same time and my Gnex blew it out of the water

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I think it runs better actually... Tried it out next to an iPhone 4s and asked them both the questions at the same time and my Gnex blew it out of the water
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Yes, I agree
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The OP complains mostly about calendar integration...which I agree ought to be included. It will, however, schedule reminders using alarms. I hope this isn't yet another patent issue....especially since voice commands have been in the works for years on multiple platforms. Heck, back in the 80s I had my Amiga executing various commands by voice...even telling me the time using Majel Roddenberry's voice after a 'computer. Time please' command. I programmed a bunch of voice commands using AREXX.
I find the voice feature very useful. On my galaxy nexus I asked it to call home depot and it called the nearest store and offered navigation and eta. It really makes for the ultimate hands free navigaion/calling system. It responds very quickly as well.
I would like it to SAY more. And I would pay good money if it sounded like Majel Roddenberry.
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I know that for people in the UK you have to tick the box for it to search from Google.com opposed to co.uk, otherwise it wont bring up pictures and certain cards (as answers to questions).
Also, change the language to english (US) to get the cute female voice opposed to our British male, ha.
But overall, nothing like the Youtube video where the guy asks 74 odd questions on Google Now. When i try, it just searches the same question...

How has the gs4 help up as a life assistant (companion)

I know its life companion but they definitely meant it more as assistant (at least I hope so). But ya mine has been great. I really love the TV stuff, its actually really useful. S health isn't bad, and it runs all the apps I could possibly need. I don't know why, but I've been using their calendar and stuff and it integrates well. The eye stuff is actually useful. I love the rotation and the video pause. Camera is actually awesome and goes great with my bitcasa subscription. The multi window is another feature that is actually more useful
The hover thing is cool but more of a novelty, I wish they would have integrated it more. S voice sucks, its soo slow and gets text wrong all the time.
At the end of the day it doesn't really feel much more like a life assistant any more than other smartphones (I wouldn't call it a life companion or a life assistant) , but its defiantly a great smartphone.
So how do you feel the phone has held up to being a life companion/assistant ?

firesoul453 said:
I know its life companion but they definitely meant it more as assistant (at least I hope so). But ya mine has been great. I really love the TV stuff, its actually really useful. S health isn't bad, and it runs all the apps I could possibly need. I don't know why, but I've been using their calendar and stuff and it integrates well. The eye stuff is actually useful. I love the rotation and the video pause. Camera is actually awesome and goes great with my bitcasa subscription. The multi window is another feature that is actually more useful
The hover thing is cool but more of a novelty, I wish they would have integrated it more. S voice sucks, its soo slow and gets text wrong all the time.
At the end of the day it doesn't really feel much more like a life assistant any more than other smartphones (I wouldn't call it a life companion or a life assistant) , but its defiantly a great smartphone.
So how do you feel the phone has held up to being a life companion/assistant ?
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I love mine. She gets me lol. I'm not sure why your S Voice isn't working properly. My texts are very accurate. I rarely have an issue with it. I can't wait to use S Health when I go on my hiking trip at the end of this month. Nothing but positive feedback from me.

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Yes sir, I am... ♥ it!
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The TV remote and app is a cool extra, gps, bluetooth, nfc, camera all work great. I turned off all of the other extra features and just use it like a smartphone. I dont talk to my phone or wave at it or anything like that. It is best phone I have ever used and battery life is excellent. Getting up to 2 days with normal usage and a full day with heavy usage.

I don't use any samsung stuff, running ge. but I really love the hardware, it is so much faster, better in battery then the s3. not to mention the screen and camera. but really I use it like the last 2 galaxies before it. I really liked multi Window though.
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Voice control with music app is very handy. When people try to talk and you say "pause" then give them the look to go ahead and talk blows their mind. I still haven't learned all features but the Sammy commercials hit the nail on the head when people see my gs4.
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[Q] what do you think is after pebble steel?

I know it's a little too soon, but what do you think it's after the pebble steel? Will it be the Pebble 3? When do you think will it be announced?
This is one of my first time posting on this forum , please be nice.

Whatever it is, orders will be accepted at least three months before it is released....
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Pebble Wear?

Pebble aluminium with boom sound
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I'm excited about the Android Wear devices because of the Google Now integration. I've always thought the mic and speaker on the smartwatch would be an important feature - not for speakerphone conversations, but as a good supplemental control system for the times when fiddling with the watch with your other hands is inconvenient. Pair it with always listening voice control of Google Now and you've opened up a world of convenience and utility.
I hope Pebble will consider that, because I'm testing a Gear 2 Neo and the mic and speaker is game changing. Even though w/ Samsung, you're only given control of S-Voice instead of Google Now, there's still a lot you can accomplish with it. It would be cool if a dev could break that open so we could choose which one. I'm at the point where any future smartwatches I choose, will be required to have that kind of feature.
If all Pebble did on the next HW version was add always-on health monitoring (steps & heart rate monitor) and mic w/ speaker I'd be happy.

rEVOLVE said:
I'm excited about the Android Wear devices because of the Google Now integration. I've always thought the mic and speaker on the smartwatch would be an important feature - not for speakerphone conversations, but as a good supplemental control system for the times when fiddling with the watch with your other hands is inconvenient. Pair it with always listening voice control of Google Now and you've opened up a world of convenience and utility.
I hope Pebble will consider that, because I'm testing a Gear 2 Neo and the mic and speaker is game changing. Even though w/ Samsung, you're only given control of S-Voice instead of Google Now, there's still a lot you can accomplish with it. It would be cool if a dev could break that open so we could choose which one. I'm at the point where any future smartwatches I choose, will be required to have that kind of feature.
If all Pebble did on the next HW version was add always-on health monitoring (steps & heart rate monitor) and mic w/ speaker I'd be happy.
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Yes that will be great! Maybe also include wireless charging like the Qualcomm Toq.

I really hope Pebble will stick to what they are doing now. I like them over Android wear because of:
1. Screen is always on. I would hate having a watch that had to be turned on.
2. There are still country's that doesn't have voice recognition from Google. Including Denmark where I live. I frequently use English voice recognition for my phone, but it is impossible to get it to recognize danish names etc. So I would prefer no voice.
That being said, a higher resolution would be great, and a more stable connection would be awesome.
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NinjaOne said:
I really hope Pebble will stick to what they are doing now. I like them over Android wear because of:
1. Screen is always on. I would hate having a watch that had to be turned on.
2. There are still country's that doesn't have voice recognition from Google. Including Denmark where I live. I frequently use English voice recognition for my phone, but it is impossible to get it to recognize danish names etc. So I would prefer no voice.
That being said, a higher resolution would be great, and a more stable connection would be awesome.
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Agreed on point 1. I'm testing the Neo and it is the single most annoying thing with this watch. Any watch that can't reliably activate the screen to the point I have to reach over with my other hand is a fail. It is no longer convenient - I need the info to be immediately visible when I glance down for it to be useful like on my Pebble and Metawatch. Even the Gear 2 Neo is a half second slow to wake up, so it doesn't feel as nice to use as as the Pebble. I am not one to be impressed by the color touch screen of the Gears. It's form over function.
On point 2 - I really feel for you that it is not a reliable way to interact for you. As an English speaker, I cannot do justice on describing how convenient the always on voice commands are when they work - and we're coming upon an age where more often than not, it is reliable and accurate. To extend that to the watch so that the watch on your wrist is the control mechanism in scenarios where your hands are busy otherwise, it's a breakthrough! I hope the voice control is made better for your use someday very soon so you can also experience the convenience I've been enjoying.
I don't care for the round shape of the Moto 360, though. I would like a "screen shape" so I can achieve the density of information I require on certain watchfaces - I don't know if I'll be able to get that out of a round screen.
Like I said, I LOVE the way my Pebble has been able to give me such real features and uses, but due to what I expect a major shift in how I want to use a smartwatch after testing one with the mic and speaker, those are absolute requirements going forward for me. If they don't add that voice control capability, I'll have to eliminate their offerings from my future selections.

I see your point, and would probably love it too, if voice recognition was more useful to me. But as long as it isn't, voice recognition isn't a priority for me.
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My guess is that a future Pebble would have the following:
1) Once again the charging port/cable will be drastically altered from the previous versions. (making it not backwards compatible)
2) The overall shell of the unit is bulkier.
3) If the technology exists, they might have a color screen (e-ink/paper of course).
4) The stock software will allow users more open slots to install/remove watch faces/apps/games.
Adding anything else would drastically lower the battery's performance and be very unnecessary. Adding Android as the base software would really make this watch a nightmare to use. The battery wouldn't last as long, the watch would be heavier, and it would get uncomfortably warm. Adding stuff like a speaker wouldn't give this watch its waterproof ability.
The way Pebble is, its perfect in every aspect. Granted you're still stuck with some watch faces, but physically, its perfect. Waterproof, dust-proof, drop-proof, long-lasting, light, watch-bands are replaceable, and its relatively thin.

I just got my new silver pebble. It is very beautiful and first of all is a watch and not a complex device. My only problem till now it is that does not support greek language and the most letters showing as boxes. I hope a new firmware fix this...

athankar75 said:
I just got my new silver pebble. It is very beautiful and first of all is a watch and not a complex device. My only problem till now it is that does not support greek language and the most letters showing as boxes. I hope a new firmware fix this...
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try pebblebits

Yes, pebblebits working just fine, no more squares...

I recently got the Pebble. I use it for Fitness. I use it for Music control. And notifications. I have say I am impressed. The connection issue is improving for me. The screen functional but for sure not beautiful. I hope at some point for future devices the engineers figure out how to have nice looking screens with good battery life. And someway of making the watch useful when the phone is not right there. We may be a few generations away though.
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logitechor said:
I recently got the Pebble. I use it for Fitness. I use it for Music control. And notifications. I have say I am impressed. The connection issue is improving for me. The screen functional but for sure not beautiful. I hope at some point for future devices the engineers figure out how to have nice looking screens with good battery life. And someway of making the watch useful when the phone is not right there. We may be a few generations away though.
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Maybe they can use Qualcomm's Mirasol display.

Yes, higher res, always-on screen is my biggest desire for a new pebble. Ideally color, and I think mirasol would be a great option.
Keep the buttons; I absolutely do not want a touch screen. And better built in apps would be nice: timer / stop watch / single shot alarms, "nag" notifications that buzz every 5 minutes until dismissed.
Voice input to Google now would be nice but not that important to me. My phone does that already.
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I would be curious to know if it is possible for them to come out with an Android Wear watch running on the E-Ink display. Kinda taking the best of both worlds. I think that the development community has been great for Pebble so far but I am pretty sure Android Wear will be catching up really quick to surpass it. But one of the features that I love about my Pebble is that the battery life is great and always on. So if there is a way it would be a neat idea to kinda bridge the gap instead of trying to compete. They would also be offering something that any of the Android Wear devices we have seen so far. Just a thought.

WARNING: Voice problems

I have the feature turned on where it's always listening for "Okay Google Now." The problem is that about 10+ times a day, especially when driving and listening to podcasts or music, Google Now will kick in, thinking I just said "Okay Google Now" even when I didn't say anything.
When this first happened, I said "Nevermind" to make it go away but it doesn't understand that. I found that "Cancel" works.
So yesterday, I am driving and Google Now asks what I want. I say "Cancel" and then it says "Okay, the event has been cancelled."
WTF! This just deleted something from my calendar, possibly a co-worker's shared calendar, and I have no idea what the appointment was. I do IT consulting so I'm going to have an angry client on my hands if I don't show up and don't call because I have no idea I'm scheduled.:crying:

r0b0m1nd said:
I have the feature turned on where it's always listening for "Okay Google Now." The problem is that about 10+ times a day, especially when driving and listening to podcasts or music, Google Now will kick in, thinking I just said "Okay Google Now" even when I didn't say anything.
When this first happened, I said "Nevermind" to make it go away but it doesn't understand that. I found that "Cancel" works.
So yesterday, I am driving and Google Now asks what I want. I say "Cancel" and then it says "Okay, the event has been cancelled."
WTF! This just deleted something from my calendar, possibly a co-worker's shared calendar, and I have no idea what the appointment was. I do IT consulting so I'm going to have an angry client on my hands if I don't show up and don't call because I have no idea I'm scheduled.:crying:
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You need to retrain it in a completely quiet environment. I have had zero problems with touchless control going off when I don't want it to. The only time it goes off is if someone who has a voice very similar to mine says "ok google now".

Agreed on retraining. Only one person has ever been able to get it to trigger that wasn't me, and it took him about 15 tries before it finally worked.

Thanks, will try that! To be fair, I am probably at fault here. I cheated by training it to respond to "Okay Google" instead of the full phrase. I'm just asking for problems with that..
I hope the 2nd gen will let me train any phrase I want! Owned this phone less than a month so far, and overall I am happy with it. It's a little sluggish compared to my iPhone 5 and LG Optimus G, so I'm hoping for a spec bump to match the other flagships. If it's successor is going to be another midrange device I might just hop over to a Nexus or something.
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There is already an Xposed module which will support a custom phrase for the touchless control I believe.

r0b0m1nd said:
Thanks, will try that! To be fair, I am probably at fault here. I cheated by training it to respond to "Okay Google" instead of the full phrase. I'm just asking for problems with that..
I hope the 2nd gen will let me train any phrase I want! Owned this phone less than a month so far, and overall I am happy with it. It's a little sluggish compared to my iPhone 5 and LG Optimus G, so I'm hoping for a spec bump to match the other flagships. If it's successor is going to be another midrange device I might just hop over to a Nexus or something.
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I had the same problem when I had trained it for "OK Google". Problem went away when I changed back to "OK Google Now".
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r0b0m1nd said:
Thanks, will try that! To be fair, I am probably at fault here. I cheated by training it to respond to "Okay Google" instead of the full phrase. I'm just asking for problems with that..
I hope the 2nd gen will let me train any phrase I want! Owned this phone less than a month so far, and overall I am happy with it. It's a little sluggish compared to my iPhone 5 and LG Optimus G, so I'm hoping for a spec bump to match the other flagships. If it's successor is going to be another midrange device I might just hop over to a Nexus or something.
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Yep, the likelihood for false positives goes up quite a bit when using just "Okay Google" for TC.

devilsdouble said:
There is already an Xposed module which will support a custom phrase for the touchless control I believe.
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What module are you talking about?

devilsdouble said:
There is already an Xposed module which will support a custom phrase for the touchless control I believe.
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I wanna about this module too
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you could install OKCommandr and train it to respond to commands OK Google can't do. like if Google Now pops up, you could say OK Commandr, lock my phone.

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What module are you talking about?
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Was talking about this, but I see now that it will disable Touchless control, so no good, sorry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...google-broadcast-intent-t2638717/post50101485

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Was talking about this, but I see now that it will disable Touchless control, so no good, sorry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...google-broadcast-intent-t2638717/post50101485
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This module sends intent. It doesn't allow you to use custom phrases to trigger touchless control. It works based on 'Ok Google now' that TC uses to wake up the phone and ask you for a command.
To make story short that Xposed is great for Tasker.
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Anybody got the Touchless Control/Moto Voice update?

Has anybody gotten the Moto Voice update yet. Seems my moto x has not gotten it yet but the listing for Touchless Control on google play has been updated and rebranded as Moto Voice. If anybody has gotten the update please post the apk.

In the new Moto X it is calles Moto Voice.

joejoejo said:
Has anybody gotten the Moto Voice update yet. Seems my moto x has not gotten it yet but the listing for Touchless Control on google play has been updated and rebranded as Moto Voice. If anybody has gotten the update please post the apk.
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Gizmodo said that the 2013 moto x is not getting any of the new updates for moto software. .

biggiestuff said:
Gizmodo said that the 2013 moto x is not getting any of the new updates for moto software. .
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Please look into stuff before presenting information. This is in the change log of the update:
For Moto X (1st generation), Droid Maxx, Droid Mini, and Droid Ultra users, stay tuned for updates to Moto Voice / Touchless Control soon.
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dier325 said:
Please look into stuff before presenting information. This is in the change log of the update:
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Of course the app is going to get updated to the new name but from the article it's saying the features won't make it. I guess I should be a bit clearer with my words. I'm just relaying the message, I'm not just pulling this stuff out of thin
air.
Perhaps you should read through it as well. By the following it seems more likely the 2013 moto x is NOT getting the new features like the 2014 Moto X.
Without touching your smartphone at all, you can get directions, set an alarm or pretty much anything—just by talking. Moto Voice is always ready. Say “Do I need an umbrella?” and it gives you the weather. Tell it you’re going home, and Moto Voice will get you there. Say "Find your phone" for your phone to make it ring so you can track it down.
On your new Moto X (2nd generation), there’s even more:
To make Moto Voice more personal to you, create your own launch phrase, like “Hello Moto X” and teach it your voice. Say “Play Beethoven on YouTube” to play music videos on YouTube. You can also interact with your favorite apps like Facebook and WhatsApp with your voice.

I found this one very vague reference on Gizmodo's article:
One major disappointment? Motorola's software updates won't be coming to last year's Moto X. Sorry, folks; it's a dead-end device. Which is a real shame, given that it's only a year old.
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It doesn't say what it is referring to at all....but it was written right after the section of the article outlining new camera features...

samwathegreat said:
I found this one very vague reference on Gizmodo's article:
It doesn't say what it is referring to at all....but it was written right after the section of the article outlining new camera features...
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It was added right after the software section of the article so I'm guessing it's multiple software updates that won't be coming to the gen1 X. So far it looks like the customized wake-up phrase isn't coming. HOPEFULLY a dev here will be able to remedy that. I have faith, but if it's tied into the features of the snapdragon 801 then it might be a tall task.

It looks like Punit Soni says that we will be getting some of the new features of the new Moto X
"The new Moto X, the new Moto G, Moto 360 and Moto Hint.
I hope you like our line-up. The Specs are great and we have all new and improved software features across the board which make these devices work even better.
And better still, all that software will come to all our existing users too (as long as the Hardware allows it)
The team has worked super hard for this. I hope you all enjoy the update."
https://plus.google.com/111499908439497508351/posts/Nz6VZ61wNGe

wmorrow said:
It looks like Punit Soni says that we will be getting some of the new features of the new Moto X
"The new Moto X, the new Moto G, Moto 360 and Moto Hint.
I hope you like our line-up. The Specs are great and we have all new and improved software features across the board which make these devices work even better.
And better still, all that software will come to all our existing users too (as long as the Hardware allows it)
The team has worked super hard for this. I hope you all enjoy the update."
https://plus.google.com/111499908439497508351/posts/Nz6VZ61wNGe
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I guess that means that Gizmodo screwed up.

dier325 said:
I guess that means that Gizmodo screwed up.
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I sure hope so, but that part about the hardware allowing it, puts a bit of a dark cloud over it. I read down further and he confirms that yes it will be coming to the moto X G1 so that's good news. . At this point, i'll believe it when I "talk" to it.

biggiestuff said:
I sure hope so, but that part about the hardware allowing it, puts a bit of a dark cloud over it. I read down further and he confirms that yes it will be coming to the moto X G1 so that's good news. . At this point, i'll believe it when I "talk" to it.
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I think all the new Moto stuff will be coming to our phones, but I think he's referring to the new camera features, like picture caching and 4K recording. I'm guessing the sensor doesn't support it.

U prefer believe in gizmodo than motorola? They said: Everything will come to first generation that don't need new hardware, the hand passing above the phone with new IR sensors will not come, and shotting photos with 2 LED flashs, but the rest will come. Motorola made a launching party and said that the moto X will come first to Brazil today, and talked about that.

sivarticus85 said:
I think all the new Moto stuff will be coming to our phones, but I think he's referring to the new camera features, like picture caching and 4K recording. I'm guessing the sensor doesn't support it.
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photo caching has little to nothing to do with the sensor. it has to do with processing power and RAM allocation. a dedicated camera (even SLR) that can take multiple shots per second will run in to buffering issues once you've reached the max threshold (bottleneck in file writing/caching).
frankly i don't see why the camera apk couldn't come to the old X. the high-level description was that it basically takes three pictures. to do this, the phone has to cache frames of rolling images and save them once you hit the shutter. based on the description, it's buffering 3 frames out of possible 60/s (i don't see it being higher than that). so technically your shot would take all of 3s to snap, save and preview.
i'd like to see more demo/reviews on this tech to find out if my assumptions are correct.

iSaoHatake said:
U prefer believe in gizmodo than motorola? They said: Everything will come to first generation that don't need new hardware, the hand passing above the phone with new IR sensors will not come, and shotting photos with 2 LED flashs, but the rest will come. Motorola made a launching party and said that the moto X will come first to Brazil today, and talked about that.
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It's not like gizmodo doesn't have a positive reputation. They were questioned about it today and they indicated they were told at the press event that the features wouldn't come to the G1 moto x. It's also not uncommon for Companies to change their stance on certains things as well. The next thing we should wonder (non moto related) is whether or not Sony remote play will come to the Xperia Z2. It's as capable as the Z3. Maybe they'll change their stance on that as well if there is enough demand.

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photo caching has little to nothing to do with the sensor. it has to do with processing power and RAM allocation. a dedicated camera (even SLR) that can take multiple shots per second will run in to buffering issues once you've reached the max threshold (bottleneck in file writing/caching).
frankly i don't see why the camera apk couldn't come to the old X. the high-level description was that it basically takes three pictures. to do this, the phone has to cache frames of rolling images and save them once you hit the shutter. based on the description, it's buffering 3 frames out of possible 60/s (i don't see it being higher than that). so technically your shot would take all of 3s to snap, save and preview.
i'd like to see more demo/reviews on this tech to find out if my assumptions are correct.
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Ah gotcha. Thought maybe it had something to do with shutter speed.
Quite frankly I'm looking forward to the new X. I know some people are grumbling about the size increase(rightfully so), but that's where the market is going. I see more people holding huge Samsung devices than any other, including iPhones(which I used to see everywhere). In fact, on my team of 13 here at work, only 4 have iPhones. The rest all have Galaxy phones... Excluding me of course, who made the right choice.

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Ah gotcha. Thought maybe it had something to do with shutter speed.
Quite frankly I'm looking forward to the new X. I know some people are grumbling about the size increase(rightfully so), but that's where the market is going. I see more people holding huge Samsung devices than any other, including iPhones(which I used to see everywhere). In fact, on my team of 13 here at work, only 4 have iPhones. The rest all have Galaxy phones... Excluding me of course, who made the right choice.
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I came to Moto X from the HTC One M7. The new camera features in the new moto x sound like a subset of what the HTC One has. While they are nifty, I don't really miss them. The most useful is the highlight clip. However, I can get that from G+ Photos' auto-awesome. The number one feature on the moto x that I find indispensable is Touchless Control, so I sure hope the new Moto Voice will come to gen 1 moto x.

Does anyone have apk?

Got an update today but everything still says touchless control, aside from the play store. Haven't had a chance to test it out yet.