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I understand that in it's current state it is a beta with only abut 8 hours of work in it. However, it's not very good. 2 of the 3 questions I asked it came back with "Fine, fine, I quit." and "I'm emailing you my resignation." after waiting for about 5 minutes each. The one question it responded to was, "How's the weather looking today?" to which it gave me the local weather for Baltimore... I live in Florida. GPS was enabled but it didn't even try to use it. It also took about 5 minutes for it to respond to that question as well.
Pretty fail at the moment.

Androidsims said:
I understand that in it's current state it is a beta with only abut 8 hours of work in it. However, it's not very good. 2 of the 3 questions I asked it came back with "Fine, fine, I quit." and "I'm emailing you my resignation." after waiting for about 5 minutes each. The one question it responded to was, "How's the weather looking today?" to which it gave me the local weather for Baltimore... I live in Florida. GPS was enabled but it didn't even try to use it. It also took about 5 minutes for it to respond to that question as well.
Pretty fail at the moment.
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I know I just love how I phones are loosing their pull. Im just amazed on how adaptive android can be due to its community
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its really good, for only 8 hours of work. Although it is kind of slow, but the answers seemed to work for me

Search "voice actions" on market
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Androidsims said:
I understand that in it's current state it is a beta with only abut 8 hours of work in it. However, it's not very good. 2 of the 3 questions I asked it came back with "Fine, fine, I quit." and "I'm emailing you my resignation." after waiting for about 5 minutes each. The one question it responded to was, "How's the weather looking today?" to which it gave me the local weather for Baltimore... I live in Florida. GPS was enabled but it didn't even try to use it. It also took about 5 minutes for it to respond to that question as well.
Pretty fail at the moment.
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Lol im in baltimore and i asked the weather and waited 5 minutes and got nothing. You must have got my answer.
I understand this is not complete yet but I have to say I am dissapoint.
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I'm sure it would provide the weather even if you said "I don't want to know the weather today."

This app is so ****ing worthless its not even funny. I gave it a thourough testing and it was 0/20. Not one right answer, not even close. It knows what you said exactly though which is weird.
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I think this whole concept is a stupid gimmicky worthless waste of time altogether, just designed to be a "Look what I can do!" advertisement.
I mean when you're on a bus or train, sitting in a restaurant, waiting at the barber/salon for a haircut, standing in line at the DMV or the Post Office or whatever, are you really going to start conversing with your phone like a weirdo and have everyone staring at you like you sprouted a second head?
It's not another person, it's not your best buddy (and if it is you have even more serious social problems than I do). It's a PHONE. Use your fingers to push the many buttons and poke the touch-screen. Jesus.
But, even if it's more-or-less useless, I guess I can see why it's important for Android to have the same big shingy bells and whistle that the iPhone does, for the sake of publicity and bragging rights.

im pretty sure the download i had said 'beta'. obviously its a ways behind Siri, but i think it has excellent potential. the voice recognition does well, but results are ridiculous. hell if it googled your voice command it would be able to tell you more. i would love an app that could tell me whatever i wanted to know while i was driving. i use the voice commands all the time. i text ALOT by voice. sometimes its more convenient when im doing somethin. if i could hit iris and tell it to move my 430 meeting to tomorrow, that would be the bees knees. i think u could sell it and make a pretty penny too. that being said, i think it would be hard for an android app to be that integrated into so many different devices. ONLY the 4S is capable of Siri (atm). Maybe if Googorola developed it, either or. Its absolutely possible and we do have some genuis people developing for android.

I am a bit suprised that this new app is being slated as the Siri Killer when Android has a few apps that both predate Siri and are more advanced.
Speaktoit is the one that I like myself but there are a few on the market.
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I think siri is just a jimmick. A voice recognition app isn't a reason to buy a phone. If that's your main selling point, you've got nothing. Just my 2 cents
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Endoroid said:
I think siri is just a jimmick. A voice recognition app isn't a reason to buy a phone. If that's your main selling point, you've got nothing. Just my 2 cents
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This is true, the problem is that iSheep are raving about it like, "lol i asked siri if she was gay my phone is better then some crap android"
I can honestly say, I thought it was cool at first as my girl has a 4S. But it's pretty useless honestly and google voice search does the same thing, better. You just can't ask Android a question, you have to say your search 9 times out of 10 which is fine...

Google Voice Search (Siri-clone) is overrated.

After watching several videos of it battling the Siri of iOS while I was awaiting my tablet, I was hyped about using this feature.
Now that I have had my tablet for almost almost a week now, it was overhyped and the accuracy was overblown in those videos on YouTube.
I know it's not my accent, since it gets my questions correctly, it just doesn't answer 'em.
I tried simple stuff too, like requesting for the current score of USA vs Korea in volleyball (when the game was going on), requesting for specific train times, requesting to see my calendar, asking it to see if I was busy on a certain day and time, and it just Google'd these questions, not telling me the answers (especially the last one; it Google'd "Am I busy at 4pm on this coming Monday?" instead of showing my calendar).
Hell even the simplest things like "show me my calendar" has it Googling that, and not actually showing me my calendar.
I've only ever successfully gotten it to tell me the weather, the time, set alarm, and tell me when the Olympics 2012 ends.
If Google Voice Search (or w/e they call it) is this bad, I wonder how bad Siri is, seeing how in those videos, Google beat Siri all the time.

Had a guy at work playing around with Siri, not very impressing, certainly nothing like the staged commercials. Technology is not there yet. I think that Dragon has a better voice recognition ability, (part of Swype Beta), but I have not played with their "Dragon Go" yet on my tablet. Didn't care for it much on my phone.

Printerscape said:
After watching several videos of it battling the Siri of iOS while I was awaiting my tablet, I was hyped about using this feature.
Now that I have had my tablet for almost almost a week now, it was overhyped and the accuracy was overblown in those videos on YouTube.
I know it's not my accent, since it gets my questions correctly, it just doesn't answer 'em.
I tried simple stuff too, like requesting for the current score of USA vs Korea in volleyball (when the game was going on), requesting for specific train times, requesting to see my calendar, asking it to see if I was busy on a certain day and time, and it just Google'd these questions, not telling me the answers (especially the last one; it Google'd "Am I busy at 4pm on this coming Monday?" instead of showing my calendar).
Hell even the simplest things like "show me my calendar" has it Googling that, and not actually showing me my calendar.
I've only ever successfully gotten it to tell me the weather, the time, set alarm, and tell me when the Olympics 2012 ends.
If Google Voice Search (or w/e they call it) is this bad, I wonder how bad Siri is, seeing how in those videos, Google beat Siri all the time.
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Siri answers a lot more of those types of questions, although it is definitely slower as the videos point out. Overall though, I rarely ask those questions anyways. I generally only ask about sports scores and weather or conversions, and a few more things.

I think they are both good at different things. Most of the YouTube videos I've seen seem to show of Google Nows speed a bit much. Hopefully what Google Now lacks.. now, it will make up for in later updates, assuming they are not harassed by Apple too much more.
I'd also like to mention that Google Now is not in any way a clone or copy of Siri. Voice recognition and human-like feedback have been strived towards since even before the USS-Enterprises computer did it in early Star-Trek Apple, or anyone recently claiming it was 'their idea' should be shot in the foot.

Didn't Google have to 'dumb' down their voice app because of the lawsuit Apple had against the Galaxy Nexus?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/29/apple-lands-preliminary-ban-against-samsung-galaxy-nexus/

burntcustard said:
Apple, or anyone recently claiming it was 'their idea' should be shot in the foot.
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In the foot? I can think of another, less elegant location.

Is does work alot better than siri in alot of ways, then again this stuff was available since froyo. I believe Google said all those features are coming back
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ynnek63 said:
Didn't Google have to 'dumb' down their voice app because of the lawsuit Apple had against the Galaxy Nexus?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/29/apple-lands-preliminary-ban-against-samsung-galaxy-nexus/
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They removed local search (i.e., showing apps and contacts, etc., along with off-device search) from ALL on-device search, because it was the integrated search functionality specifically that was the patent that the judge found most likely to be upheld. Not related directly to voice.

But atleast Google now is better then S voice lol, I removed it from my G note.... For some reason it never worked for me : /

I'm getting "network error. Please try again" on my S3
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I think it's pretty good, it's very accurate for me even in noisy environments.

It's just not very complex in it's abilities, which I agree with a member above is due to it being young technology rather than overrated per say.
As it's part of my phone and I use it more, I still find Siri far more frustrating and inaccurate. Oddly a series of jailbreaks make it far more capable and I'm wondering if we'll ever see similar hacking on Android.
Somewhat related, I'm just glad Google allows for offline dictation as there's nothing more annoying than a voice assistant telling you it's unavailable because you're in bad service area.
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guthrien said:
It's just not very complex in it's abilities, which I agree with a member above is due to it being young technology rather than overrated per say.
As it's part of my phone and I use it more, I still find Siri far more frustrating and inaccurate. Oddly a series of jailbreaks make it far more capable and I'm wondering if we'll ever see similar hacking on Android.
Somewhat related, I'm just glad Google allows for offline dictation as there's nothing more annoying than a voice assistant telling you it's unavailable because you're in bad service area.
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Well, if not for the insanity that is Apple, it would have much more capabilities, but I find it pretty easy to use, accurate, and despite local search, pretty good.

Lolz, why people always believe that Apple make new things every time and now calling this Google now a siri clone.
Having used both siri and Google now, I think both are different and have different strength points and Google now doing more work than siri. Siri is more vocal though.
People think S voice is bad but I have found it more useful than siri and it can do device functions as well which siri can't.
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Google now isn't a siri clone and wasn't created to be one. Although I will admit that Google now works a lot better on my galaxy nexus, Google Now is pretty amazing. I love when I'm out somewhere that it tells me how much traffic I will have on my way home and will give me better directions.
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As somebody already said, the voice recognition is accurate but it just doesn't give you 'local' results. I tried to get it to display a book I have in Play Books or music in Play Music but it wouldn't open those apps. I use SpeakToIt Assistant, which seems to be much better at playing your music, reading calendar, sending SMS's (on my Sensation), etc.

I think it runs better actually... Tried it out next to an iPhone 4s and asked them both the questions at the same time and my Gnex blew it out of the water

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I think it runs better actually... Tried it out next to an iPhone 4s and asked them both the questions at the same time and my Gnex blew it out of the water
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Yes, I agree
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The OP complains mostly about calendar integration...which I agree ought to be included. It will, however, schedule reminders using alarms. I hope this isn't yet another patent issue....especially since voice commands have been in the works for years on multiple platforms. Heck, back in the 80s I had my Amiga executing various commands by voice...even telling me the time using Majel Roddenberry's voice after a 'computer. Time please' command. I programmed a bunch of voice commands using AREXX.
I find the voice feature very useful. On my galaxy nexus I asked it to call home depot and it called the nearest store and offered navigation and eta. It really makes for the ultimate hands free navigaion/calling system. It responds very quickly as well.
I would like it to SAY more. And I would pay good money if it sounded like Majel Roddenberry.
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I know that for people in the UK you have to tick the box for it to search from Google.com opposed to co.uk, otherwise it wont bring up pictures and certain cards (as answers to questions).
Also, change the language to english (US) to get the cute female voice opposed to our British male, ha.
But overall, nothing like the Youtube video where the guy asks 74 odd questions on Google Now. When i try, it just searches the same question...

[Q] Dragon Assistant compatible? is X a 2 yr phone?

Does the Nuance Dragon Assistant work with the Moto X? Are we locked into using the Google Now if we want to talk with the X? Google is awesome, but Nuance has been working with speech recognition a long time. And they have programs out for Windows PCs. I know talking to a Jarvis is still a distant future. Competition is important, right?
Does Moto X have the right stuff to be competitive for 2 years? I've heard the stats aren't as impressive as was originally expected. I've also heard that stats alone aren't what makes the phone set apart from the pack. I'm not that interested in option to change up the designs. Talking to the phone is amazing, but if Dragon Assistant isn't on board then I'll reconsider.
AT&T: With a 2 year extension of contract, we're paying $200, plus some tax, upgrade/activation fee, and case. So, let's round up to $300. $300 plus the ongoing price of the month to month service. Am I going to be happy with the Moto X's performance with the needs upcoming apps will have?
I am with AT&T and might move from the Dell Streak 5. I love Dell Streak, but if I use it everyday I'll break that big screen. Which is why I'm not a big fan of the Galaxy s4 or even the HTC One. I can keep the Streak and swap SIM cards with the smaller Moto X as needed.
Love to hear your thoughts.

I can't really speak for 2-year performance, but it's super fast and buttery right now. More so than other, higher-specced phones, which are bogged down by stuff like touchwiz. Motorola did a really nice job with the optimizations. Dragon dictation does work but afaik you can't use it with touchless controls.
Also, it feels really nice in the hand.

Thanks to your post, I just discovered a completely new way to talk to my phone! I just installed Dragon and turned on the "listen in background" mode. Since the microphones are always on, dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!! This is pretty awesome!
Thanks for the great find!

terabyte128 said:
I can't really speak for 2-year performance, but it's super fast and buttery right now. More so than other, higher-specced phones, which are bogged down by stuff like touchwiz. Motorola did a really nice job with the optimizations. Dragon dictation does work but afaik you can't use it with touchless controls.
Also, it feels really nice in the hand.
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jhnl33 said:
Thanks to your post, I just discovered a completely new way to talk to my phone! I just installed Dragon and turned on the "listen in background" mode. Since the microphones are always on, dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!! This is pretty awesome!
Thanks for the great find!
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Alright....I'm getting some mixed messages here. "Can't use it with touchless controls"? That sucks! But wait...."dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!!" ??
buttery..:laugh:

Sorry, I didn't realize that Dragon had its own "listen in background" mode. So you can't use it instead of google now for the "ok google now" thing, but you can use dragon's own mode to activate it touchlessly.

MaggiesStreak said:
Alright....I'm getting some mixed messages here. "Can't use it with touchless controls"? That sucks! But wait...."dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!!" ??
buttery..:laugh:
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Yeah! I'm playing around with it now! I customized the wake-up phrase to be "Yo google" and have the "background wake-up" option ticked. I don't know about other phones, but I presume because the Moto X has always on mics, having Dragon using the mics all the time isn't much of a battery drain. It is true that you can't use it in conjunction with touchless controls, but in all honesty, moto's touchless controls aren't that great. Dragon is much more accurate and you can customize the key phrase!
Also, regarding your previous concerns; I really recommend the moto x. It's really the smoothest phone on the market right now and with google at the head, I can guarantee that updates will keep the Moto running smooth as it is right now. I mentioned that touchless controls were kind of meh (they trigger quite a bit even without saying "ok google now"), but active notifications are really the deal sealer here. I honestly can't live without active notifications anymore; it's just incredibly convenient.

Active notifications are amazing, hopefully Moto will add some improvements to the touchless controls with future updates
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terabyte128 said:
Active notifications are amazing, hopefully Moto will add some improvements to the touchless controls with future updates
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Alright..you two are good salespeople. I'll work on scrounging up the $600 or so.
I just finished a contract with AT&T, and I don't think I'm interested in signing another contract. My lifestyle for the next year will provide me with plenty of wifi to supplement the 2G cap pre-paid AT&T allows @$60/month. And the other deal in town is StraightTalk @$45/month also with a 2G cap, even though they say its unlimited.
I hear the Moto X price is going to drop some. I hope that Iphone C(heap) phone sells like hotcakes and the Moto X price rolls back.
Thank you for the follow up on the Dragon bit.:highfive: I even thought about calling Naunce Dragon to ask them.

Does it keep the phone awake? Or is this using the benefits of the NLP?
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Does it keep the phone awake? Or is this using the benefits of the NLP?

I'm still guessing that the Dragon always-listening mode takes up a lot of battery as it would on a "normal" phone. tl;dr I don't think it takes advantage of X's X8 always listening chip.

The below quotes are from my communications with the Nuance Mobility Zen Desk (https://nuancemobility.zendesk.com).
Me: Does Dragon Assistant work with Moto X the same way Google Now works with Moto X?
I'm thinking about buying the Moto X. However, I'm unable to find any information about the "touchless" features working with Dragon Assistant.
Moto X runs on Android 4.2.2. The touchless features focus on Google Now and a processor dedicated to an "always listening" microphone.
Moto X specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php
Their response: Hello,
Thank you for contacting us,
I can not really comment on how Google now is integrated with moto X. However, I can tell you about Dragon Mobile Assistant functionality.
Dragon does have "always listening" functionality under which the device can be accessed touch-less. This functionality is called "Driver mode".
More feature of Dragon Mobile Assistant can be checked at: http://www.dragonmobileapps.com/
Regards,
Nuance Mobility Support
Me: Under Driver Mode, the Dragon Assistant will make use of the always on micrphones, then correct? Instead of saying "ok Google" to start up the device's Google Now app I can say a.phrase designated by Dragon Assistant. Is that correct?
The Moto X carries three always-on Wolfson microphones that constantly listen for the words "OK Google Now," to turn on a "Touchless Control" system, waking up the handset for voice commands and searching via Google Now. Source: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/28/motox_teardown_onshoring_handset_costs/
Their response: Yes, Under driver mode, Dragon Assistant will be always using device microphones for continuously listening for customized wake-up command.
Regards,
Nuance Mobility Support

Does it seem like I'm asking a very specific question and getting a very general answer to anyone else? I thought I was very clear.
The Nuance Mobility Team must have politicians working for them.

Take a read of the reviews for the Maxx/Ultra/X! They are stellar. I disabled Google search & this works better. I like using my Jawbone headset button.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nuance.balerion&hl=en

I will say, functionally, I enjoy this far more than moto's touchless controls. But boy does it suck down the battery! Maybe if I was on a stock rom with the stock kernel, somehow some magic would happen and it would use the passive listening that's built in, but at least on AOSP based ROMs, in my experience, this thing will eat juice. i'm 15h on battery, 1.5h screen on, and 20%. 55% of the battery drain is from Dragon.
I think I'll keep it for driving, but maybe not for having on all the time.

aviwdoowks said:
Take a read of the reviews for the Maxx/Ultra/X! They are stellar. I disabled Google search & this works better. I like using my Jawbone headset button.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nuance.balerion&hl=en
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Path A
Want to use touchless for BT only activation, you cannot. Constant listening or no BT.
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Use Dragon for BT only, have touchless off & have listening only at BT button activation.

Do Moto X phones always listen in on owners?

I have acqaintance who is concerned about the Moto X (and the rest of the current crop of Motorola phones) were always listening in on the banter in the phone's environment and reporting it to Google or the NSA in a worst case scenario. I own a Moto X and while I am not as big of a conspiracy theorist as my acquaintance I would to know is there any way to detect if the phone constantly listens in to conversations and reports them now that root has been achieved? I am still going to love the phone regardless, just wondering.
Edit: Mods feel free to move this to Moto X Q & A, I just thought the general thread was a better fit.
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Maybe you should constantly talk about blowing stuff up and see if the NSA comes knocking at your door?
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For a non-sarcastic response:
No it is not going to be recording or sending your voice anywhere it would take a lot of resources. It is listening to your voice for a specific keyword which then activates Google Voice actions. That is all. No need for concern.
At least not compared to any other phone. There were reports that the NSA could hack into any phone to activate the mike so take that as you will.

If you own any of these devices:
-desktop
-laptop
-smartphone
-tablet
expect zero privacy at all times.

To attempt a productive answer to the OP, I do not believe that the phone is constantly paying attention to what you are saying, but is just looking for a specific wave pattern to trigger on.
Current voice commands are only able to function by sending the electronic information of your voice to high powered servers to decifer the voice patterns. This is why for Voice Search or Siri to function you must have internet access, and why Siri was so unpredictable in the beginning because Apple didn't have enough servers to handle everyone making their queries.
But, the first thing I did with my Moto X is turn it on Airplane mode without connecting to any Wi-Fi. I was then able to get my Moto X to recognize the trigger phrase "OK, Google Now" and my phone turned on but then gave me a message saying that it couldn't detect any internet connection and I would have to enable one before it could understand me any further.
This seems to me that the phone cannot recognize anything other than the trigger phrase and I think it would take to many resources, battery life, and data for it to be constantly sending and receiving data from Google's voice computation servers.

bobbysteels216 said:
I have acqaintance who is concerned about the Moto X (and the rest of the current crop of Motorola phones) were always listening in on the banter in the phone's environment and reporting it to Google or the NSA in a worst case scenario.
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Why does your "acquaintance" think this applies only to Motorola phones? ANY device with a microphone is a potential listening point for the spooks.

mentose457 said:
Maybe you should constantly talk about blowing stuff up and see if the NSA comes knocking at your door?
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Maybe you should have read the OP instead of simply looking at the title or skimming the OP before replying with an unwarranted, soporific reply, yes?
scorpion667 said:
If you own any of these devices:
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-laptop
-smartphone
-tablet
expect zero privacy at all times.
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I would try these angles being a fluent speaker of sarcasm myself but with them working in the engineering field for a living they have tunnelvision and can only register non-sarcastic logic, them being 50+ and a conspiracy theory nut by nature only make matters worse, and I try to respect my elders.
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There were reports that the NSA could hack into any phone to activate the mike so take that as you will.
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Do you happen to know of a link where this is mentioned?
Edit: Nevermind, I found one.
roadkizzle said:
To attempt a productive answer to the OP, I do not believe that the phone is constantly paying attention to what you are saying, but is just looking for a specific wave pattern to trigger on.
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This makes sense.
roadkizzle said:
Current voice commands are only able to function by sending the electronic information of your voice to high powered servers to decifer the voice patterns. This is why for Voice Search or Siri to function you must have internet access, and why Siri was so unpredictable in the beginning because Apple didn't have enough servers to handle everyone making their queries.
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But I tried putting the phone in airplane mode and speaking into the microphone after pushing the microphone button on the keyboard in a notepad app and the phone was able to convert my speech into the the appropriate words at a mesmerizingly fast rate without a data connection hence the voice recognition for the 'OK Google Now' is initially handled from the phone side. Granted I did check the option for Motorola to 'learn' my speech for better recognition but this is just more proof that the phone can handle voice recognition without data connection.
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But, the first thing I did with my Moto X is turn it on Airplane mode without connecting to any Wi-Fi. I was then able to get my Moto X to recognize the trigger phrase "OK, Google Now" and my phone turned on but then gave me a message saying that it couldn't detect any internet connection and I would have to enable one before it could understand me any further.
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Ok that explains how the phone has to connect Google's voice recognition server to respond to speech in context but it does not address that the phone can recognize voice on it's own without a data connection.
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This seems to me that the phone cannot recognize anything other than the trigger phrase and I think it would take to many resources, battery life, and data for it to be constantly sending and receiving data from Google's voice computation servers.
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I agree. My acquaintance's assertion is that text requires a negligible amount of RAM to store and an even more negligible amount to send over the internet provided that the data is compressed, they assert that even voice can be compressed to negligible amounts, buffered, then uploaded during processing lulls.
thedosbox said:
Why does your "acquaintance" think this applies only to Motorola phones?
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Let me look into my crystal ball and find that out for you...
thedosbox said:
ANY device with a microphone is a potential listening point for the spooks.
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How is that so? I am not sure I understand your use of the word spook in that context.
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bobbysteels216 said:
them being 50+ and a conspiracy theory nut by nature only make matters worse, and I try to respect my elders.
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Don't waste your time. Such people have a tendency to double down on their beliefs, even when faced with facts.
How is that so? I am not sure I understand your use of the word spook in that context.
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Microphones are connected to some sort of hardware with recording capability. Nowadays, that usually means some sort of computing device onto which software can be surreptitiously loaded by the aforementioned "spooks" (aka NSA/MI6/KGB/Illuminati/Martians etc).

thedosbox said:
Don't waste your time. Such people have a tendency to double down on their beliefs, even when faced with facts.
Microphones are connected to some sort of hardware with recording capability. Nowadays, that usually means some sort of computing device onto which software can be surreptitiously loaded by the aforementioned "spooks" (aka NSA/MI6/KGB/Illuminati/Martians etc).
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Haha I gotcha, thanks.
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Any device that has a microphone and internet can be used as a listening and information gathering device. For instance the dropbox and usage stats folder in the android system under data/system, are constantly being filled with data that is uploaded to unknown locations. Imagine what apps and processes connected to microphones are doing. Full privacy does not exist on mobile devices or computers these days.
Side note you can deny permissions to those folders with a root explorer.
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"I would try these angles being a fluent speaker of sarcasm myself but with them working in the engineering field for a living they have tunnelvision and can only register non-sarcastic logic, them being 50+ and a conspiracy theory nut by nature only make matters worse, and I try to respect my elders."
I was not being sarcastic. The claims I make are widely available to the public via wikileaks and various other sources. Unless those sources are IP blocked in your country. There is no conspiracy theory here, just spreading knowledge =)
For example, here are 249 surveillance technologies, some of which are used to collect private data from the general population: Source

scorpion667 said:
"I would try these angles being a fluent speaker of sarcasm myself but with them working in the engineering field for a living they have tunnelvision and can only register non-sarcastic logic, them being 50+ and a conspiracy theory nut by nature only make matters worse, and I try to respect my elders."
I was not being sarcastic. The claims I make are widely available to the public via wikileaks and various other sources. Unless those sources are IP blocked in your country. There is no conspiracy theory here, just spreading knowledge =)
For example, here are 249 technologies used to spy on you as we speak: Source
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Right it is just that they seem to believe that they can cover all bases with removed permissions. I do not disagree.
Sent from my Moto X

Google assistant now talks to me!

Had the watch over a year, unless I have missed something or something has got updated since the last wear update, using google assistant now talks to me!
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That was announced as coming at Google I/O

It took me by surprise, it is rather convenient!

stag74 said:
It took me by surprise, it is rather convenient!
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Yep

Unless you have five Google Home speakers, a phone, earbuds, and a watch that all respond to "hey Google".