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After watching several videos of it battling the Siri of iOS while I was awaiting my tablet, I was hyped about using this feature.
Now that I have had my tablet for almost almost a week now, it was overhyped and the accuracy was overblown in those videos on YouTube.
I know it's not my accent, since it gets my questions correctly, it just doesn't answer 'em.
I tried simple stuff too, like requesting for the current score of USA vs Korea in volleyball (when the game was going on), requesting for specific train times, requesting to see my calendar, asking it to see if I was busy on a certain day and time, and it just Google'd these questions, not telling me the answers (especially the last one; it Google'd "Am I busy at 4pm on this coming Monday?" instead of showing my calendar).
Hell even the simplest things like "show me my calendar" has it Googling that, and not actually showing me my calendar.
I've only ever successfully gotten it to tell me the weather, the time, set alarm, and tell me when the Olympics 2012 ends.
If Google Voice Search (or w/e they call it) is this bad, I wonder how bad Siri is, seeing how in those videos, Google beat Siri all the time.
Had a guy at work playing around with Siri, not very impressing, certainly nothing like the staged commercials. Technology is not there yet. I think that Dragon has a better voice recognition ability, (part of Swype Beta), but I have not played with their "Dragon Go" yet on my tablet. Didn't care for it much on my phone.
Printerscape said:
After watching several videos of it battling the Siri of iOS while I was awaiting my tablet, I was hyped about using this feature.
Now that I have had my tablet for almost almost a week now, it was overhyped and the accuracy was overblown in those videos on YouTube.
I know it's not my accent, since it gets my questions correctly, it just doesn't answer 'em.
I tried simple stuff too, like requesting for the current score of USA vs Korea in volleyball (when the game was going on), requesting for specific train times, requesting to see my calendar, asking it to see if I was busy on a certain day and time, and it just Google'd these questions, not telling me the answers (especially the last one; it Google'd "Am I busy at 4pm on this coming Monday?" instead of showing my calendar).
Hell even the simplest things like "show me my calendar" has it Googling that, and not actually showing me my calendar.
I've only ever successfully gotten it to tell me the weather, the time, set alarm, and tell me when the Olympics 2012 ends.
If Google Voice Search (or w/e they call it) is this bad, I wonder how bad Siri is, seeing how in those videos, Google beat Siri all the time.
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Siri answers a lot more of those types of questions, although it is definitely slower as the videos point out. Overall though, I rarely ask those questions anyways. I generally only ask about sports scores and weather or conversions, and a few more things.
I think they are both good at different things. Most of the YouTube videos I've seen seem to show of Google Nows speed a bit much. Hopefully what Google Now lacks.. now, it will make up for in later updates, assuming they are not harassed by Apple too much more.
I'd also like to mention that Google Now is not in any way a clone or copy of Siri. Voice recognition and human-like feedback have been strived towards since even before the USS-Enterprises computer did it in early Star-Trek Apple, or anyone recently claiming it was 'their idea' should be shot in the foot.
Didn't Google have to 'dumb' down their voice app because of the lawsuit Apple had against the Galaxy Nexus?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/29/apple-lands-preliminary-ban-against-samsung-galaxy-nexus/
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Apple, or anyone recently claiming it was 'their idea' should be shot in the foot.
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In the foot? I can think of another, less elegant location.
Is does work alot better than siri in alot of ways, then again this stuff was available since froyo. I believe Google said all those features are coming back
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ynnek63 said:
Didn't Google have to 'dumb' down their voice app because of the lawsuit Apple had against the Galaxy Nexus?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/29/apple-lands-preliminary-ban-against-samsung-galaxy-nexus/
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They removed local search (i.e., showing apps and contacts, etc., along with off-device search) from ALL on-device search, because it was the integrated search functionality specifically that was the patent that the judge found most likely to be upheld. Not related directly to voice.
But atleast Google now is better then S voice lol, I removed it from my G note.... For some reason it never worked for me : /
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I think it's pretty good, it's very accurate for me even in noisy environments.
It's just not very complex in it's abilities, which I agree with a member above is due to it being young technology rather than overrated per say.
As it's part of my phone and I use it more, I still find Siri far more frustrating and inaccurate. Oddly a series of jailbreaks make it far more capable and I'm wondering if we'll ever see similar hacking on Android.
Somewhat related, I'm just glad Google allows for offline dictation as there's nothing more annoying than a voice assistant telling you it's unavailable because you're in bad service area.
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It's just not very complex in it's abilities, which I agree with a member above is due to it being young technology rather than overrated per say.
As it's part of my phone and I use it more, I still find Siri far more frustrating and inaccurate. Oddly a series of jailbreaks make it far more capable and I'm wondering if we'll ever see similar hacking on Android.
Somewhat related, I'm just glad Google allows for offline dictation as there's nothing more annoying than a voice assistant telling you it's unavailable because you're in bad service area.
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Well, if not for the insanity that is Apple, it would have much more capabilities, but I find it pretty easy to use, accurate, and despite local search, pretty good.
Lolz, why people always believe that Apple make new things every time and now calling this Google now a siri clone.
Having used both siri and Google now, I think both are different and have different strength points and Google now doing more work than siri. Siri is more vocal though.
People think S voice is bad but I have found it more useful than siri and it can do device functions as well which siri can't.
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Google now isn't a siri clone and wasn't created to be one. Although I will admit that Google now works a lot better on my galaxy nexus, Google Now is pretty amazing. I love when I'm out somewhere that it tells me how much traffic I will have on my way home and will give me better directions.
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As somebody already said, the voice recognition is accurate but it just doesn't give you 'local' results. I tried to get it to display a book I have in Play Books or music in Play Music but it wouldn't open those apps. I use SpeakToIt Assistant, which seems to be much better at playing your music, reading calendar, sending SMS's (on my Sensation), etc.
I think it runs better actually... Tried it out next to an iPhone 4s and asked them both the questions at the same time and my Gnex blew it out of the water
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I think it runs better actually... Tried it out next to an iPhone 4s and asked them both the questions at the same time and my Gnex blew it out of the water
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Yes, I agree
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The OP complains mostly about calendar integration...which I agree ought to be included. It will, however, schedule reminders using alarms. I hope this isn't yet another patent issue....especially since voice commands have been in the works for years on multiple platforms. Heck, back in the 80s I had my Amiga executing various commands by voice...even telling me the time using Majel Roddenberry's voice after a 'computer. Time please' command. I programmed a bunch of voice commands using AREXX.
I find the voice feature very useful. On my galaxy nexus I asked it to call home depot and it called the nearest store and offered navigation and eta. It really makes for the ultimate hands free navigaion/calling system. It responds very quickly as well.
I would like it to SAY more. And I would pay good money if it sounded like Majel Roddenberry.
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I know that for people in the UK you have to tick the box for it to search from Google.com opposed to co.uk, otherwise it wont bring up pictures and certain cards (as answers to questions).
Also, change the language to english (US) to get the cute female voice opposed to our British male, ha.
But overall, nothing like the Youtube video where the guy asks 74 odd questions on Google Now. When i try, it just searches the same question...
A few days ago www.wired.com and www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com both reported that there was likely to be a fairly sizeable update coming for the N5 today.
So I thought I would start a thread for this.
http://www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com/nexus-5-firmware-update-coming-week-possibly-wednesday/
Apparently Google Now will get even smarter than it currently is, with the voice-based assistant getting some sort of answering back features. Furthermore, Google Now will be able to search apps and launch them to perform tasks and show more Google Now cards based on the user’s location:
But the stuff Google says is coming November 13 is the real gravy, and it’s a shame it isn’t already ladled on. One of those things is the ability to ask you questions — so you might say “text Jennifer” and it will reply “which Jennifer,” and then ask you to dictate the message. It’s also going to get the ability to search inside applications, and launch them to complete tasks for you. So, you might search for a restaurant, and an option in the results shows up for OpenTable, which you’ll be able to fire up and make a reservation. It’s also going to use location cues to drop cards into Google Now, even more so than it does currently. At Yellowstone it will show you geyser times, for example. Sadly, none of this stuff was lit up yet, so I wasn’t able to test it. I’m not dinging the phone for that (and it’s not getting any extra credit), but given how interesting these features are, it’s kind of crazy the phone launched without them.
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As we have recently learned, the Nexus 5 is more about Google Search services (Google Now included) than any other Nexus before it, not that it’s a bad thing, especially for Android users looking forward to such an Android experience. However, some of those Google Search feature – essentially the new launcher – will be a Nexus 5 exclusive for now, at least officially, so it’ll be interesting to see whether these new Google Now features will be available for everyone else or not.
However, we’re certainly not surprised to hear that Google Now is getting smarter. We’ll be waiting to see Google’s announcement next week to tell you more details about this apparently imminent Google Now update.
Wired has also learned that the Nexus 5 will get a camera update that will fix existing issues with it – check out these posts for camera comparisons with the Nexus 4 and the iPhone 5S.
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nothing here yet
Nothing here yet either!
I really hope that the next update will fix the current software issues too...
hmmm nothing here yet
just checked (at 11.12) and nothing
Oh boy, another rumor thread!
I will be shocked if Google fixes the camera issues this quickly. If it such an easy fix I do not understand why they would release the camera software the way it is currently.
Google just needs to by Kodak or some other company they can fix up. I am sure they can afford to purchase them and better camera's and software in phones is the future right now.
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Google didn't announce a Nexus 5 update like they with the the 4, 7 & 10 yesterday. I doubt it's coming this week.
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A few days ago www.wired.com and www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com both reported that there was likely to be a fairly sizeable update coming for the N5 today.
So I thought I would start a thread for this.
http://www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com/nexus-5-firmware-update-coming-week-possibly-wednesday/
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"On November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his wife. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her. With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his childhood friend, Oscar Madison. Sometime earlier, Madison's wife had thrown him out, requesting that he never return. Can two divorced men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"
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"On November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his wife. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her. With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his childhood friend, Oscar Madison. Sometime earlier, Madison's wife had thrown him out, requesting that he never return. Can two divorced men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"
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Maybe I am a little slow but I do not get the connection.....
Anyway, the new rumor is that Nexus 5 will be released on November 28th because Kit-Kat posted a picture of a Turkey weighing 28lbs! That is the release date and I am sticking to it!
I will be very surprised if we get an update today or even this month.
I have the feature turned on where it's always listening for "Okay Google Now." The problem is that about 10+ times a day, especially when driving and listening to podcasts or music, Google Now will kick in, thinking I just said "Okay Google Now" even when I didn't say anything.
When this first happened, I said "Nevermind" to make it go away but it doesn't understand that. I found that "Cancel" works.
So yesterday, I am driving and Google Now asks what I want. I say "Cancel" and then it says "Okay, the event has been cancelled."
WTF! This just deleted something from my calendar, possibly a co-worker's shared calendar, and I have no idea what the appointment was. I do IT consulting so I'm going to have an angry client on my hands if I don't show up and don't call because I have no idea I'm scheduled.:crying:
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I have the feature turned on where it's always listening for "Okay Google Now." The problem is that about 10+ times a day, especially when driving and listening to podcasts or music, Google Now will kick in, thinking I just said "Okay Google Now" even when I didn't say anything.
When this first happened, I said "Nevermind" to make it go away but it doesn't understand that. I found that "Cancel" works.
So yesterday, I am driving and Google Now asks what I want. I say "Cancel" and then it says "Okay, the event has been cancelled."
WTF! This just deleted something from my calendar, possibly a co-worker's shared calendar, and I have no idea what the appointment was. I do IT consulting so I'm going to have an angry client on my hands if I don't show up and don't call because I have no idea I'm scheduled.:crying:
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You need to retrain it in a completely quiet environment. I have had zero problems with touchless control going off when I don't want it to. The only time it goes off is if someone who has a voice very similar to mine says "ok google now".
Agreed on retraining. Only one person has ever been able to get it to trigger that wasn't me, and it took him about 15 tries before it finally worked.
Thanks, will try that! To be fair, I am probably at fault here. I cheated by training it to respond to "Okay Google" instead of the full phrase. I'm just asking for problems with that..
I hope the 2nd gen will let me train any phrase I want! Owned this phone less than a month so far, and overall I am happy with it. It's a little sluggish compared to my iPhone 5 and LG Optimus G, so I'm hoping for a spec bump to match the other flagships. If it's successor is going to be another midrange device I might just hop over to a Nexus or something.
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There is already an Xposed module which will support a custom phrase for the touchless control I believe.
r0b0m1nd said:
Thanks, will try that! To be fair, I am probably at fault here. I cheated by training it to respond to "Okay Google" instead of the full phrase. I'm just asking for problems with that..
I hope the 2nd gen will let me train any phrase I want! Owned this phone less than a month so far, and overall I am happy with it. It's a little sluggish compared to my iPhone 5 and LG Optimus G, so I'm hoping for a spec bump to match the other flagships. If it's successor is going to be another midrange device I might just hop over to a Nexus or something.
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I had the same problem when I had trained it for "OK Google". Problem went away when I changed back to "OK Google Now".
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r0b0m1nd said:
Thanks, will try that! To be fair, I am probably at fault here. I cheated by training it to respond to "Okay Google" instead of the full phrase. I'm just asking for problems with that..
I hope the 2nd gen will let me train any phrase I want! Owned this phone less than a month so far, and overall I am happy with it. It's a little sluggish compared to my iPhone 5 and LG Optimus G, so I'm hoping for a spec bump to match the other flagships. If it's successor is going to be another midrange device I might just hop over to a Nexus or something.
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Yep, the likelihood for false positives goes up quite a bit when using just "Okay Google" for TC.
devilsdouble said:
There is already an Xposed module which will support a custom phrase for the touchless control I believe.
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What module are you talking about?
devilsdouble said:
There is already an Xposed module which will support a custom phrase for the touchless control I believe.
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I wanna about this module too
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you could install OKCommandr and train it to respond to commands OK Google can't do. like if Google Now pops up, you could say OK Commandr, lock my phone.
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What module are you talking about?
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Was talking about this, but I see now that it will disable Touchless control, so no good, sorry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...google-broadcast-intent-t2638717/post50101485
devilsdouble said:
Was talking about this, but I see now that it will disable Touchless control, so no good, sorry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...google-broadcast-intent-t2638717/post50101485
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This module sends intent. It doesn't allow you to use custom phrases to trigger touchless control. It works based on 'Ok Google now' that TC uses to wake up the phone and ask you for a command.
To make story short that Xposed is great for Tasker.
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As many of you already know, Google released Allo. I have seen several versions released but can confirm that this version works on my stock-rooted ROM:
Google Allo 1.0.006_RC18 (arm64-v8a_xxhdpi) (400-480dpi) (Android 4.1+)
I downloaded from apkmirror.
Its available on play store
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Its available on play store
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When I checked 1/2hr ago it was still accepting registration. Maybe geo-location restrictions. Anyhow, thanks for update.
singlebyte said:
When I checked 1/2hr ago it was still accepting registration. Maybe geo-location restrictions. Anyhow, thanks for update.
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Same here...
Anyone with feedback? It's good or another messanger?
Seems like a nice option with Google answers and hints. But you know,....
...truly can't wait to have half of my friends trying huge fonts, new emojis, stickers and whatever else ON ME.
Implementation was garbage.. If I text someone from the app it'll nag them to download it to continue the convo, the texts come from a short code number (worse), and if you don't want allo and accidentally dismiss the notification well you have to download it to get the message (waaat?!)
So nope, I'll stick to what I got
The way the media and how Google advertised it before release they made it seem like it was going to be a texting, and hangouts replacement. Now that it's out it feels like a whatsapp replacement which is already piss poor because people who adopted whatsapp have already brought everyone in that ecosystem.
I feel a bit disappointed because it seemed like it was going to be an answer to imessage. =/ I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the final product is going to be.
I have uninstalled it . IT seems to be replacement for Whats app. It's not SMS/Texting app.
try that google allo ah this is smart messenger we can chat using phone number seems like whatsapp but i don't have friend to talk with me using allo right now hahaha already try the google assistant it's quitely good, but if i try to find the near hotel they send me barcelona hotel ==" so far hahaha
i cant understand what google is trying to do with messenger, hangouts, duo and allo. Its extremely foolish instead they should have implemented all these features in the same app and should have implemented something like imessage which would have been a brilliant move and a great answer to imessage and facetime. and since google apps are cross platform it would have been great instead they are making several half baked apps.
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Its available on play store
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not available need pre-register
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not available need pre-register
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It's a staged rollout, give it a day or a few.
Someone create an Allo group!
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If they ever get it to work like sms and implement it as the native messaging app on android OS it will be the biggest thing out as all the android users will have it. And somehow integrate Duo in it as well (something the other apps cant do yet)
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It's a staged rollout, give it a day or a few.
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If you guys go back to the 1st post you will see where you can get it.
Google Allo records all of your chats, then can give them to the authorities as per their request.
Running Android since 1.5..... Boosted OP3
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Google Allo records all of your chats, then can give them to the authorities as per their request.
Running Android since 1.5..... Boosted OP3
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Just read that as well....now deleting...
https://news.fastcompany.com/no-mat...llo-messenger-app-says-edward-snowden-4019786
Been using it myself, works pretty great
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Google Allo records all of your chats, then can give them to the authorities as per their request.
Running Android since 1.5..... Boosted OP3
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No different from hangouts or Facebook messenger (unless you use the encrypted option)
And SMS isn't even secure, much less encrypted
I'm currently running Pure Nexus and like many/most custom roms it has GA enabled but the other 2 phones in my house are stock Nexus 6P's and neither have received the update yet. One I signed up for the beta program and it downloaded and installed the 7.1.2 beta but no GA. Then I read today that it'll be a Google Play Services update that enables GA across MM/Nougat devices so I updated Play Services to the latest beta and still no GA. So, what do you know, what do you hear?? My wife and son really want GA but want to stay stock. Their tired of me messing with their phones.
Running stock, no root. Latest GPS and Google App and nothing
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I'm currently running Pure Nexus and like many/most custom roms it has GA enabled but the other 2 phones in my house are stock Nexus 6P's and neither have received the update yet. One I signed up for the beta program and it downloaded and installed the 7.1.2 beta but no GA. Then I read today that it'll be a Google Play Services update that enables GA across MM/Nougat devices so I updated Play Services to the latest beta and still no GA. So, what do you know, what do you hear?? My wife and son really want GA but want to stay stock. Their tired of me messing with their phones.
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I am enrolled in the beta program... Running Pure Nexus... 2-15...
I clean flashes the other day after thinking about switching Roms... And for the first time I did not have to revert the build.prop line to train the assistant...
Google App 6.14.12.21.arm
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Running stock, no root. Latest GPS and Google App and nothing
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Thanks for the reply. Kind of strange that a weekend ago Google announced it wound start hitting capable phone starting last week in the US first yet it seems no one has received the update.
I'm on a Nexus 6P, never rooted, in the Beta program with 7.1.2. I'm also in the Google Play Services beta program. I have installed the Pixel Launcher from APK but otherwise stock. So far no Assistant. Live in the US.
Still no assistant here either. Are we missing something, or has Google not actually released the update like they said they would? I don't know of anyone that has actually received it to this point.
It's a server side switch and in typical Google form, they are turning it on very slowly. These trickle rollouts of new features are ridiculous. Either it's ready for release or it's not. If it is, release it to everyone. If it's not, then don't announce anything until it's ready.
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It's a server side switch and in typical Google form, they are turning it on very slowly. These trickle rollouts of new features are ridiculous. Either it's ready for release or it's not. If it is, release it to everyone. If it's not, then don't announce anything until it's ready.
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I have been searching for anyone who has had it turned on. I follow a FB forum as well where every little update usually gets posted. Nothing there yet either. Hearing of others getting it turned on would at least be encouraging.
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I have been searching for anyone who has had it turned on. I follow a FB forum as well where every little update usually gets posted. Nothing there yet either. Hearing of others getting it turned on would at least be encouraging.
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Thats what I was thinking. A week ago the tech sites were a buzz with "Google Assistant coming to most 6.0+ phones this week". Then nothing. All week. I'm still wondering a full week later why the tech sites are almost silent and no one is asking "Ok Google, what gives".
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Thats what I was thinking. A week ago the tech sites were a buzz with "Google Assistant coming to most 6.0+ phones this week". Then nothing. All week. I'm still wondering a full week later why the tech sites are almost silent and no one is asking "Ok Google, what gives".
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Someone in the FB group received Assistant about an hour after installing the latest Google App beta APK. I just tried it. Probably a coincidence, but at least someone has reported getting Assistant.
Isn't this linked to the google play services apk? If someone gets it, wouldn't posting the apk give it to all of us?
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Isn't this linked to the google play services apk? If someone gets it, wouldn't posting the apk give it to all of us?
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You have to have the correct Play Services but Google still has to "turn it on" on their end. That seems to be what is taking so long. As long as your Play Services are up to date you should be good. I entered the beta program for that as well. Still no Assistant though.
Mine was activated yesterday, right around the time I updated to the 7.1.1 March security patch. Don't know if there's a direct relation though.
I just got it today, I had everything updated and it showed up on its own.
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Just got it a little bit ago.
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Just got it a little bit ago.
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Yay:victory:
Thanks for the replies everyone. Looks like we're very slowly but surely on our way. Still no GA love for the 2 stock 6P's in my house yet.
Edit: P.S. I didn't start this thread to complain, I was just wondering if I was the only one not receiving the GA update. I can only imagine what a mind blowing amount of mega giga google flops of computing power it must take for what must be thousands (if not tens of thousands) of questions per second via voice, interpret it, then send the answer back. All within a second or 2. For the thousands or tens or thousands of users asking/interacting at the same time. Mind boggling. It's probably a very slow rollout to be able to keep up and ramp up for the onslaught until they get a full picture of what the new computing/server farm needs will be.
My Nexus 6 has it, my wife's 6p does not.
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Just got it guys. Running LOs, Google app ver. 6.13.25.21, and Google Play Services ver. 10.2.99, location Kosovo. It feels great not to do so many workarounds just to have it
East coast rolled out 32GB.
Still Waiting as well
I am still waiting as well. February 5 Security Patch, Google(Beta) 6.14.14.21.arm and Play Services 10.2.98.
Like so many others I signed up for Play Services Beta, but unlike the others I never got a bump up (update), and Still have not received the March Security Update.
But I swear if I don't side load most things from Google I am the last to get them.