Voice Control for Nexus 5 - Moto X Q&A

In latest Nexus 5, We could say " OK GOOGLE" to search in google now. Is it possible to take this function to next level by integrating Moto X voice control- Since Nexus 5 hardware has a always listening chip, will it be easy for devs to poet this feature.
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Moto x does that. You just have to install the new launcher with the new Google search app from the nexus 5. Look over in themes and app threads.
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Does the Nexus 5 have the low-power linguistics chip?
i didnt think it had the same X8 computing system. pretty sure thats the key behind the truely always listening feature of moto x vs screen on always listening aspect of the new google launcher.
Ajseter said:
In latest Nexus 5, We could say " OK GOOGLE" to search in google now. Is it possible to take this function to next level by integrating Moto X voice control- Since Nexus 5 hardware has a always listening chip, will it be easy for devs to poet this feature.
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Can we port this feature to nexus 5

mcstagger said:
Does the Nexus 5 have the low-power linguistics chip?
i didnt think it had the same X8 computing system. pretty sure thats the key behind the truely always listening feature of moto x vs screen on always listening aspect of the new google launcher.
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It's not the X8, but the Snapdragon 800 in N5 has similar capability built in to the chip itself.

I'm going to say no. The moto x uses a totally different chip to get it done plus the always listening on the moto x is not open source. Any Dev would have a really really hard time getting that to work, if they could at all.
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Your Best Features of Android/Nexus?

What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
mufc09 said:
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
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The ability to make phone calls and text are two of my favorite features. I don't know what I'll do without these two important features.
mufc09 said:
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
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dude any android high-end is basically a computer/ game system. i really hate the fact that this phone doesnt have a micro sd but i got over it. if usb on the go gets better oh mann ps1 and gba emulator heaven. i love the freedom with keboards and mice i can do a lot of school work on office suite pro 7. gaming is amazing with my dualshock 3. screen calibration is like the best thing ever since everyone can get the screen the way THEY want. andddd uhh, how thin and sexy the phone is. yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
i want OTG >
btw hows the hdmi out .. the slimport or whatever? is it laggy or smooth
scream4cheese said:
The ability to make phone calls and text are two of my favorite features. I don't know what I'll do without these two important features.
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I'm guessing you use a headset/headphones?
Does anyone else have any tips for what android can really do?
It can be better than an Iphone at half the price.
I'll go with Android in general.
The communities these devices generate.. All the way back from lurking SDX Developers to present day to being a heavy poster on XDA.. I've enjoyed every minute I lurk and post on these boards. You meet some interesting folks, you have some great laughs, some not so great arguments, and more importantly constantly learning... If you're willing to listen.. There is always someone around here willing to help another person out.. All you gotta do is ask.. And if you get bored.. You can pick any thread in the development section, start from page one and just read.. You're bound to learn something new..
The best feature of Android is IMO that it is open source and the best feature of the Nexi is IMO that they run clean Android and have full fastboot support.
having used an Android phone since the OG Galaxy S (Captivate), i've really come to love that the Nexus isn't locked to any particular carrier, and has no bloatware. in the past, i've always felt like i had to root and ROM my phones the moment i got them, just to get rid of AT&T's craptastic pre-loaded apps. i've had my N4 for nearly 3 whole months and haven't found a NEED to mod it at all (i still may in the future because of a desire to, but the need isn't there).
that's why i love the Nexus...
The Dev community.
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Stock Android
No MotoBleh
No CrapWiz
No HTC ****
No LG what-ever-the hell they use
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Off contract, unlocked, open file system.
I've been firmly entrenched in Apple's ecosystem for almost 30 years, and while most apps still exhibit more polish on iOS... Android is catching up.
Nexus 7 was the first Android device that impressed me, and Nexus 4 is more of the same. While I initially missed the ability to communicate via AppleEvents to my server, I managed to solve that problem and there is now very little iOS abilities I miss on Android.
best feature is that i bought one for $220 from a friend of mine
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AlexWekell said:
Stock Android
No MotoBleh
No CrapWiz
No HTC ****
No LG what-ever-the hell they use
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Agreed coming off att sg2 and have been fighting with the bloatware since having it, can't wait to install only the programs that I use and that is it
styckx said:
I'll go with Android in general.
The communities these devices generate.. All the way back from lurking SDX Developers
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Wow, an sdx reference. Didn't see that coming. They were instrumental in making the SPH-M920 aka Samsung transform aka god awful slider phone halfway decent. Vampirefo was the kernel developer I followed. Ahhh memories. Anyway, my favorite feature as far as the nexus is concerned is the updates.... Like all of them. On time and with a quickness.
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Although I've been strictly nexus since the galaxy nexus, these devices do have bloatware (to me)
I hate having Google plus and these other useless Google apps, can't even uninstall them, still love the nexus devices better than any other, but this is my only complaint
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subxero123 said:
Although I've been strictly nexus since the galaxy nexus, these devices do have bloatware (to me)
I hate having Google plus and these other useless Google apps, can't even uninstall them, still love the nexus devices better than any other, but this is my only complaint
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You can by taking advantage of one of the highlights of owning a nexus are..... Rooting it.
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mufc09 said:
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
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The ability to watch porn secretly
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quick updates , great developer support and calling and texting hah
AlexWekell said:
Stock Android
No MotoBleh
No CrapWiz
No HTC ****
No LG what-ever-the hell they use
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co-sign. I really dislike every "skinned" theme that carrier phones come with. Although if I HAD to be stuck with one I guess Id choose sense....I guess lol
I love how easy it is to access Google Now. On the Galaxy S3, you have to hold the home button, then two the Google Now icon.
Keyboard is pretty cool too.
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Google event scheduled for the 24th of July

Well, It seems that Google scheduled an event for the 24th of July. Sundar Pichai, the Android an Chrome lead will be hosting it, so I'll give you a few guesses as to what it's about.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/17/google-press-event/
A new Nexus 7 and 4.3. Everyone already knows what's coming
Beat me to it. I posted this in the nexus 7 forum
bozzykid said:
A new Nexus 7 and 4.3. Everyone already knows what's coming
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The Nexus 7 seems fairly likely and 4.3 is bound to hit at some point (especially given the leak of the Google Play Edition ROM). I'm just hoping this isn't another example of what they did at Google I/O (announcing the new Maps for Android 2 months before actual release) and with the Google Play Edition phones (saying they will come on June 27 only for that to be the pre-order date). I just don't want to wait excitedly for next Wednesday only for them to mention that the Nexus 7 will be on the Play Store in 3 weeks and Android 4.3 will be released on that day.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331282&page=40
OMG, I'm STOCKED!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331282&page=40
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Didn't see that. Oh, well.
I hope its a Google TV announcement...
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Keeping my fingers crossed...
Hopefully he learned how to update our horrible old blutooth version
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Moto X, Google TV, Android 4.3, Nexus 7 2, and maybe so more stuff on Chrome's future.
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Moto X, Google TV, Android 4.3, Nexus 7 2, and maybe so more stuff on Chrome's future.
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I doubt Moto X will be mentioned. Motorola is its own division and Pichai doesn't really have anything to do with it. Guy Kawasaki had the recent intimate event with the press that Leo Laporte, Robert Scoble, etc. were invited to. However, Kawasaki actually serves as an advisor to Motorola, so that makes sense. The leaked videos of Moto X show something close to stock, but it's still skinned; unless a Google Play Experience version is released, I wouldn't expect it to come up at all.

[Q] Dragon Assistant compatible? is X a 2 yr phone?

Does the Nuance Dragon Assistant work with the Moto X? Are we locked into using the Google Now if we want to talk with the X? Google is awesome, but Nuance has been working with speech recognition a long time. And they have programs out for Windows PCs. I know talking to a Jarvis is still a distant future. Competition is important, right?
Does Moto X have the right stuff to be competitive for 2 years? I've heard the stats aren't as impressive as was originally expected. I've also heard that stats alone aren't what makes the phone set apart from the pack. I'm not that interested in option to change up the designs. Talking to the phone is amazing, but if Dragon Assistant isn't on board then I'll reconsider.
AT&T: With a 2 year extension of contract, we're paying $200, plus some tax, upgrade/activation fee, and case. So, let's round up to $300. $300 plus the ongoing price of the month to month service. Am I going to be happy with the Moto X's performance with the needs upcoming apps will have?
I am with AT&T and might move from the Dell Streak 5. I love Dell Streak, but if I use it everyday I'll break that big screen. Which is why I'm not a big fan of the Galaxy s4 or even the HTC One. I can keep the Streak and swap SIM cards with the smaller Moto X as needed.
Love to hear your thoughts.
I can't really speak for 2-year performance, but it's super fast and buttery right now. More so than other, higher-specced phones, which are bogged down by stuff like touchwiz. Motorola did a really nice job with the optimizations. Dragon dictation does work but afaik you can't use it with touchless controls.
Also, it feels really nice in the hand.
Thanks to your post, I just discovered a completely new way to talk to my phone! I just installed Dragon and turned on the "listen in background" mode. Since the microphones are always on, dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!! This is pretty awesome!
Thanks for the great find!
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I can't really speak for 2-year performance, but it's super fast and buttery right now. More so than other, higher-specced phones, which are bogged down by stuff like touchwiz. Motorola did a really nice job with the optimizations. Dragon dictation does work but afaik you can't use it with touchless controls.
Also, it feels really nice in the hand.
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jhnl33 said:
Thanks to your post, I just discovered a completely new way to talk to my phone! I just installed Dragon and turned on the "listen in background" mode. Since the microphones are always on, dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!! This is pretty awesome!
Thanks for the great find!
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Alright....I'm getting some mixed messages here. "Can't use it with touchless controls"? That sucks! But wait...."dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!!" ??
buttery..:laugh:
Sorry, I didn't realize that Dragon had its own "listen in background" mode. So you can't use it instead of google now for the "ok google now" thing, but you can use dragon's own mode to activate it touchlessly.
MaggiesStreak said:
Alright....I'm getting some mixed messages here. "Can't use it with touchless controls"? That sucks! But wait...."dragon will turn on even when the screen is off!!!" ??
buttery..:laugh:
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Yeah! I'm playing around with it now! I customized the wake-up phrase to be "Yo google" and have the "background wake-up" option ticked. I don't know about other phones, but I presume because the Moto X has always on mics, having Dragon using the mics all the time isn't much of a battery drain. It is true that you can't use it in conjunction with touchless controls, but in all honesty, moto's touchless controls aren't that great. Dragon is much more accurate and you can customize the key phrase!
Also, regarding your previous concerns; I really recommend the moto x. It's really the smoothest phone on the market right now and with google at the head, I can guarantee that updates will keep the Moto running smooth as it is right now. I mentioned that touchless controls were kind of meh (they trigger quite a bit even without saying "ok google now"), but active notifications are really the deal sealer here. I honestly can't live without active notifications anymore; it's just incredibly convenient.
Active notifications are amazing, hopefully Moto will add some improvements to the touchless controls with future updates
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terabyte128 said:
Active notifications are amazing, hopefully Moto will add some improvements to the touchless controls with future updates
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Alright..you two are good salespeople. I'll work on scrounging up the $600 or so.
I just finished a contract with AT&T, and I don't think I'm interested in signing another contract. My lifestyle for the next year will provide me with plenty of wifi to supplement the 2G cap pre-paid AT&T allows @$60/month. And the other deal in town is StraightTalk @$45/month also with a 2G cap, even though they say its unlimited.
I hear the Moto X price is going to drop some. I hope that Iphone C(heap) phone sells like hotcakes and the Moto X price rolls back.
Thank you for the follow up on the Dragon bit.:highfive: I even thought about calling Naunce Dragon to ask them.
Does it keep the phone awake? Or is this using the benefits of the NLP?
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Does it keep the phone awake? Or is this using the benefits of the NLP?
I'm still guessing that the Dragon always-listening mode takes up a lot of battery as it would on a "normal" phone. tl;dr I don't think it takes advantage of X's X8 always listening chip.
The below quotes are from my communications with the Nuance Mobility Zen Desk (https://nuancemobility.zendesk.com).
Me: Does Dragon Assistant work with Moto X the same way Google Now works with Moto X?
I'm thinking about buying the Moto X. However, I'm unable to find any information about the "touchless" features working with Dragon Assistant.
Moto X runs on Android 4.2.2. The touchless features focus on Google Now and a processor dedicated to an "always listening" microphone.
Moto X specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php
Their response: Hello,
Thank you for contacting us,
I can not really comment on how Google now is integrated with moto X. However, I can tell you about Dragon Mobile Assistant functionality.
Dragon does have "always listening" functionality under which the device can be accessed touch-less. This functionality is called "Driver mode".
More feature of Dragon Mobile Assistant can be checked at: http://www.dragonmobileapps.com/
Regards,
Nuance Mobility Support
Me: Under Driver Mode, the Dragon Assistant will make use of the always on micrphones, then correct? Instead of saying "ok Google" to start up the device's Google Now app I can say a.phrase designated by Dragon Assistant. Is that correct?
The Moto X carries three always-on Wolfson microphones that constantly listen for the words "OK Google Now," to turn on a "Touchless Control" system, waking up the handset for voice commands and searching via Google Now. Source: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/28/motox_teardown_onshoring_handset_costs/
Their response: Yes, Under driver mode, Dragon Assistant will be always using device microphones for continuously listening for customized wake-up command.
Regards,
Nuance Mobility Support
Does it seem like I'm asking a very specific question and getting a very general answer to anyone else? I thought I was very clear.
The Nuance Mobility Team must have politicians working for them.
Take a read of the reviews for the Maxx/Ultra/X! They are stellar. I disabled Google search & this works better. I like using my Jawbone headset button.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nuance.balerion&hl=en
I will say, functionally, I enjoy this far more than moto's touchless controls. But boy does it suck down the battery! Maybe if I was on a stock rom with the stock kernel, somehow some magic would happen and it would use the passive listening that's built in, but at least on AOSP based ROMs, in my experience, this thing will eat juice. i'm 15h on battery, 1.5h screen on, and 20%. 55% of the battery drain is from Dragon.
I think I'll keep it for driving, but maybe not for having on all the time.
aviwdoowks said:
Take a read of the reviews for the Maxx/Ultra/X! They are stellar. I disabled Google search & this works better. I like using my Jawbone headset button.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nuance.balerion&hl=en
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Path A
Want to use touchless for BT only activation, you cannot. Constant listening or no BT.
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Use Dragon for BT only, have touchless off & have listening only at BT button activation.

WARNING: Voice problems

I have the feature turned on where it's always listening for "Okay Google Now." The problem is that about 10+ times a day, especially when driving and listening to podcasts or music, Google Now will kick in, thinking I just said "Okay Google Now" even when I didn't say anything.
When this first happened, I said "Nevermind" to make it go away but it doesn't understand that. I found that "Cancel" works.
So yesterday, I am driving and Google Now asks what I want. I say "Cancel" and then it says "Okay, the event has been cancelled."
WTF! This just deleted something from my calendar, possibly a co-worker's shared calendar, and I have no idea what the appointment was. I do IT consulting so I'm going to have an angry client on my hands if I don't show up and don't call because I have no idea I'm scheduled.:crying:
r0b0m1nd said:
I have the feature turned on where it's always listening for "Okay Google Now." The problem is that about 10+ times a day, especially when driving and listening to podcasts or music, Google Now will kick in, thinking I just said "Okay Google Now" even when I didn't say anything.
When this first happened, I said "Nevermind" to make it go away but it doesn't understand that. I found that "Cancel" works.
So yesterday, I am driving and Google Now asks what I want. I say "Cancel" and then it says "Okay, the event has been cancelled."
WTF! This just deleted something from my calendar, possibly a co-worker's shared calendar, and I have no idea what the appointment was. I do IT consulting so I'm going to have an angry client on my hands if I don't show up and don't call because I have no idea I'm scheduled.:crying:
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You need to retrain it in a completely quiet environment. I have had zero problems with touchless control going off when I don't want it to. The only time it goes off is if someone who has a voice very similar to mine says "ok google now".
Agreed on retraining. Only one person has ever been able to get it to trigger that wasn't me, and it took him about 15 tries before it finally worked.
Thanks, will try that! To be fair, I am probably at fault here. I cheated by training it to respond to "Okay Google" instead of the full phrase. I'm just asking for problems with that..
I hope the 2nd gen will let me train any phrase I want! Owned this phone less than a month so far, and overall I am happy with it. It's a little sluggish compared to my iPhone 5 and LG Optimus G, so I'm hoping for a spec bump to match the other flagships. If it's successor is going to be another midrange device I might just hop over to a Nexus or something.
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There is already an Xposed module which will support a custom phrase for the touchless control I believe.
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Thanks, will try that! To be fair, I am probably at fault here. I cheated by training it to respond to "Okay Google" instead of the full phrase. I'm just asking for problems with that..
I hope the 2nd gen will let me train any phrase I want! Owned this phone less than a month so far, and overall I am happy with it. It's a little sluggish compared to my iPhone 5 and LG Optimus G, so I'm hoping for a spec bump to match the other flagships. If it's successor is going to be another midrange device I might just hop over to a Nexus or something.
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I had the same problem when I had trained it for "OK Google". Problem went away when I changed back to "OK Google Now".
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r0b0m1nd said:
Thanks, will try that! To be fair, I am probably at fault here. I cheated by training it to respond to "Okay Google" instead of the full phrase. I'm just asking for problems with that..
I hope the 2nd gen will let me train any phrase I want! Owned this phone less than a month so far, and overall I am happy with it. It's a little sluggish compared to my iPhone 5 and LG Optimus G, so I'm hoping for a spec bump to match the other flagships. If it's successor is going to be another midrange device I might just hop over to a Nexus or something.
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Yep, the likelihood for false positives goes up quite a bit when using just "Okay Google" for TC.
devilsdouble said:
There is already an Xposed module which will support a custom phrase for the touchless control I believe.
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What module are you talking about?
devilsdouble said:
There is already an Xposed module which will support a custom phrase for the touchless control I believe.
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I wanna about this module too
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you could install OKCommandr and train it to respond to commands OK Google can't do. like if Google Now pops up, you could say OK Commandr, lock my phone.
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What module are you talking about?
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Was talking about this, but I see now that it will disable Touchless control, so no good, sorry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...google-broadcast-intent-t2638717/post50101485
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Was talking about this, but I see now that it will disable Touchless control, so no good, sorry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...google-broadcast-intent-t2638717/post50101485
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This module sends intent. It doesn't allow you to use custom phrases to trigger touchless control. It works based on 'Ok Google now' that TC uses to wake up the phone and ask you for a command.
To make story short that Xposed is great for Tasker.
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Anybody got the Touchless Control/Moto Voice update?

Has anybody gotten the Moto Voice update yet. Seems my moto x has not gotten it yet but the listing for Touchless Control on google play has been updated and rebranded as Moto Voice. If anybody has gotten the update please post the apk.
In the new Moto X it is calles Moto Voice.
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Has anybody gotten the Moto Voice update yet. Seems my moto x has not gotten it yet but the listing for Touchless Control on google play has been updated and rebranded as Moto Voice. If anybody has gotten the update please post the apk.
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Gizmodo said that the 2013 moto x is not getting any of the new updates for moto software. .
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Gizmodo said that the 2013 moto x is not getting any of the new updates for moto software. .
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Please look into stuff before presenting information. This is in the change log of the update:
For Moto X (1st generation), Droid Maxx, Droid Mini, and Droid Ultra users, stay tuned for updates to Moto Voice / Touchless Control soon.
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Please look into stuff before presenting information. This is in the change log of the update:
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Of course the app is going to get updated to the new name but from the article it's saying the features won't make it. I guess I should be a bit clearer with my words. I'm just relaying the message, I'm not just pulling this stuff out of thin
air.
Perhaps you should read through it as well. By the following it seems more likely the 2013 moto x is NOT getting the new features like the 2014 Moto X.
Without touching your smartphone at all, you can get directions, set an alarm or pretty much anything—just by talking. Moto Voice is always ready. Say “Do I need an umbrella?” and it gives you the weather. Tell it you’re going home, and Moto Voice will get you there. Say "Find your phone" for your phone to make it ring so you can track it down.
On your new Moto X (2nd generation), there’s even more:
To make Moto Voice more personal to you, create your own launch phrase, like “Hello Moto X” and teach it your voice. Say “Play Beethoven on YouTube” to play music videos on YouTube. You can also interact with your favorite apps like Facebook and WhatsApp with your voice.
I found this one very vague reference on Gizmodo's article:
One major disappointment? Motorola's software updates won't be coming to last year's Moto X. Sorry, folks; it's a dead-end device. Which is a real shame, given that it's only a year old.
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It doesn't say what it is referring to at all....but it was written right after the section of the article outlining new camera features...
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I found this one very vague reference on Gizmodo's article:
It doesn't say what it is referring to at all....but it was written right after the section of the article outlining new camera features...
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It was added right after the software section of the article so I'm guessing it's multiple software updates that won't be coming to the gen1 X. So far it looks like the customized wake-up phrase isn't coming. HOPEFULLY a dev here will be able to remedy that. I have faith, but if it's tied into the features of the snapdragon 801 then it might be a tall task.
It looks like Punit Soni says that we will be getting some of the new features of the new Moto X
"The new Moto X, the new Moto G, Moto 360 and Moto Hint.
I hope you like our line-up. The Specs are great and we have all new and improved software features across the board which make these devices work even better.
And better still, all that software will come to all our existing users too (as long as the Hardware allows it)
The team has worked super hard for this. I hope you all enjoy the update."
https://plus.google.com/111499908439497508351/posts/Nz6VZ61wNGe
wmorrow said:
It looks like Punit Soni says that we will be getting some of the new features of the new Moto X
"The new Moto X, the new Moto G, Moto 360 and Moto Hint.
I hope you like our line-up. The Specs are great and we have all new and improved software features across the board which make these devices work even better.
And better still, all that software will come to all our existing users too (as long as the Hardware allows it)
The team has worked super hard for this. I hope you all enjoy the update."
https://plus.google.com/111499908439497508351/posts/Nz6VZ61wNGe
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I guess that means that Gizmodo screwed up.
dier325 said:
I guess that means that Gizmodo screwed up.
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I sure hope so, but that part about the hardware allowing it, puts a bit of a dark cloud over it. I read down further and he confirms that yes it will be coming to the moto X G1 so that's good news. . At this point, i'll believe it when I "talk" to it.
biggiestuff said:
I sure hope so, but that part about the hardware allowing it, puts a bit of a dark cloud over it. I read down further and he confirms that yes it will be coming to the moto X G1 so that's good news. . At this point, i'll believe it when I "talk" to it.
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I think all the new Moto stuff will be coming to our phones, but I think he's referring to the new camera features, like picture caching and 4K recording. I'm guessing the sensor doesn't support it.
U prefer believe in gizmodo than motorola? They said: Everything will come to first generation that don't need new hardware, the hand passing above the phone with new IR sensors will not come, and shotting photos with 2 LED flashs, but the rest will come. Motorola made a launching party and said that the moto X will come first to Brazil today, and talked about that.
sivarticus85 said:
I think all the new Moto stuff will be coming to our phones, but I think he's referring to the new camera features, like picture caching and 4K recording. I'm guessing the sensor doesn't support it.
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photo caching has little to nothing to do with the sensor. it has to do with processing power and RAM allocation. a dedicated camera (even SLR) that can take multiple shots per second will run in to buffering issues once you've reached the max threshold (bottleneck in file writing/caching).
frankly i don't see why the camera apk couldn't come to the old X. the high-level description was that it basically takes three pictures. to do this, the phone has to cache frames of rolling images and save them once you hit the shutter. based on the description, it's buffering 3 frames out of possible 60/s (i don't see it being higher than that). so technically your shot would take all of 3s to snap, save and preview.
i'd like to see more demo/reviews on this tech to find out if my assumptions are correct.
iSaoHatake said:
U prefer believe in gizmodo than motorola? They said: Everything will come to first generation that don't need new hardware, the hand passing above the phone with new IR sensors will not come, and shotting photos with 2 LED flashs, but the rest will come. Motorola made a launching party and said that the moto X will come first to Brazil today, and talked about that.
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It's not like gizmodo doesn't have a positive reputation. They were questioned about it today and they indicated they were told at the press event that the features wouldn't come to the G1 moto x. It's also not uncommon for Companies to change their stance on certains things as well. The next thing we should wonder (non moto related) is whether or not Sony remote play will come to the Xperia Z2. It's as capable as the Z3. Maybe they'll change their stance on that as well if there is enough demand.
640k said:
photo caching has little to nothing to do with the sensor. it has to do with processing power and RAM allocation. a dedicated camera (even SLR) that can take multiple shots per second will run in to buffering issues once you've reached the max threshold (bottleneck in file writing/caching).
frankly i don't see why the camera apk couldn't come to the old X. the high-level description was that it basically takes three pictures. to do this, the phone has to cache frames of rolling images and save them once you hit the shutter. based on the description, it's buffering 3 frames out of possible 60/s (i don't see it being higher than that). so technically your shot would take all of 3s to snap, save and preview.
i'd like to see more demo/reviews on this tech to find out if my assumptions are correct.
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Ah gotcha. Thought maybe it had something to do with shutter speed.
Quite frankly I'm looking forward to the new X. I know some people are grumbling about the size increase(rightfully so), but that's where the market is going. I see more people holding huge Samsung devices than any other, including iPhones(which I used to see everywhere). In fact, on my team of 13 here at work, only 4 have iPhones. The rest all have Galaxy phones... Excluding me of course, who made the right choice.
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Ah gotcha. Thought maybe it had something to do with shutter speed.
Quite frankly I'm looking forward to the new X. I know some people are grumbling about the size increase(rightfully so), but that's where the market is going. I see more people holding huge Samsung devices than any other, including iPhones(which I used to see everywhere). In fact, on my team of 13 here at work, only 4 have iPhones. The rest all have Galaxy phones... Excluding me of course, who made the right choice.
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I came to Moto X from the HTC One M7. The new camera features in the new moto x sound like a subset of what the HTC One has. While they are nifty, I don't really miss them. The most useful is the highlight clip. However, I can get that from G+ Photos' auto-awesome. The number one feature on the moto x that I find indispensable is Touchless Control, so I sure hope the new Moto Voice will come to gen 1 moto x.
Does anyone have apk?
Got an update today but everything still says touchless control, aside from the play store. Haven't had a chance to test it out yet.

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