Database Develop

Which sound chip is better - Galaxy S4 vs One?

I have a pretty limited knowledge on this but from what I have read if both uses the Snapdragon 600, then the sound quality (with headphones) would be the same? Or would there be any differences which makes one better than the other?

Soundchip... whatever...
HTC One = AMP + Stereo Speakers !

I think the word ur looking for is DAC [Digital to analogue converter]..Samsung uses WOLFSON [one of the best]..Dont know about HTC but it must be great from what i am seeing.

LOL I have a one x and the sound with an audio mod that allows 96khz resampling is the best audio that i have heard yet. It beats my friends galaxy s3

cuyo11 said:
LOL I have a one x and the sound with an audio mod that allows 96khz resampling is the best audio that i have heard yet. It beats my friends galaxy s3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont own a sg3 so I dont know if they have the wolfson DAC, if not that would be the main reason why. What audio mod are you using, acid or beats audio or something else? My personal opinion along with my buddies when comparing my note 2 against their phones is that the note 2 blows away the competition as long as I have voodoo sound support. Nothing can compare to that audio mod, I will personally slap anyone that things the beats audio mod or the beats audio headphones are actually good
Sent from my SGH-I317 using xda premium

NA S4 vs One: The HTC One wins. They have the same DAC, but htc has an external Amp.
Int. S4 vs One: S4 probally wins, but no1 has tested yet. If it has a Wolfson DAC, S4 wins, but by a small margin I would assume.

cuyo11 said:
LOL I have a one x and the sound with an audio mod that allows 96khz resampling is the best audio that i have heard yet. It beats my friends galaxy s3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tegra 3 has a rubbish DAC
Maedhros said:
NA S4 vs One: The HTC One wins. They have the same DAC, but htc has an external Amp.
Int. S4 vs One: S4 probally wins, but no1 has tested yet. If it has a Wolfson DAC, S4 wins, but by a small margin I would assume.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Generally, Wolfson > Qualcomm > Tegra. HTC One has qualcomm but I am interested to see what they have done with their "beats" stuff hardware wise

Beats is a stupid software mod which increases the trebble and bass..there are no real sound improvements in it. Marketing gimmick.

ethan3686 said:
Beats is a stupid software mod which increases the trebble and bass..there are no real sound improvements in it. Marketing gimmick.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HTC have made an effort to provide good sound hardware (eg the speakers) so I wouldn't be surprised if we see some improvement over the One X. A dev who went to the launch event in the US told me that the sound through headphones was very impressive compared to his DNA

ethan3686 said:
Beats is a stupid software mod which increases the trebble and bass..there are no real sound improvements in it. Marketing gimmick.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Normally I would agree with you 100% but in this case I think you are wrong. Beats sucks, but the audio for the One has been completely redesigned in-house and the drivers are made by HTC specifically for the in-house chip and made to interface with Beats.
But don't take my word for it; if any one is farmiliar with Myriam Joire (a.k.a tnkgrl) of Engadget you know she's a programmer and has a background in Audio, she knows here stuff better than 99% of the people here. On the latest mobile podcast (linked below, around 35 mins in) she talks about how its the by far the best audio you will get on any mobile device, period. She mentioned it was a league ahead of the iPhone/iPod, but no other devices were even mentioned. I'm not an audio file, but when I hear one make very bold statements like that, its quite impressive.
I would say the One wins by a long shot.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/14/engadget-mobile-podcast-173-03-14-13/

Xperia V (Sound Problem)

Now i'm very disappointed of Xperia V sound for listening music because when i played with Walkman Player, sound are not stable.When i taste with Clear Bass +8 or +10, sound output is low volume with not stable. Sometime sound volume was increase level but sometime decrease with not stable for listening. Original Walkman Player 4.1.2 on Xperia V is very lousy with not look like My Old Xperia Neo. Why ???? When i used Sony Ericssion Xperia Neo, Everythings r very good & taste with Clear Bass +8db or +10db, sound
is very good taste for feeling. Now i changed Neo to Xperia V, very disappointed for listening for songs of music. And then cannot use Xperia Neo headphone on Xperia V.
How can i do Xperia Neo sound quality on Xperia V??? I don't like sound for listen my new Xperia V.

ppaphyo said:
Now i'm very disappointed of Xperia V sound for listening music because when i played with Walkman Player, sound are not stable.When i taste with Clear Bass +8 or +10, sound output is low volume with not stable.
snip ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the V, too.
If you give so much bass to the sound, it is no wonder the system will try best to limit the volume for preventing damage to the tiny speaker, the headphone or your ears. Especially in conjunction with a cheap headphone that might be quite annoying, yep. If you like bass then buy headphones that deliver bass without the need for pumping it up artificially.

Thanks Bro! do u know how to stop limit volume for preventing damage to the tiny speaker?? i don't want to need limit the volume for clear bass.
It's depend on limit from system or headphone bro?? i like more my old xperia neo headphone but V is not support for Neo.
Thanks
peter-k said:
I have the V, too.
If you give so much bass to the sound, it is no wonder the system will try best to limit the volume for preventing damage to the tiny speaker, the headphone or your ears. Especially in conjunction with a cheap headphone that might be quite annoying, yep. If you like bass then buy headphones that deliver bass without the need for pumping it up artificially.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

ppaphyo said:
Thanks Bro! do u know how to stop limit volume for preventing damage to the tiny speaker?? i don't want to need limit the volume for clear bass.
It's depend on limit from system or headphone bro?? i like more my old xperia neo headphone but V is not support for Neo.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Flash a soundmod.. Acid audio or Viper audio or PureAudio lite. Just to mention some of them.
You gotta try which one suits best your taste of music
Sent from my LT25i using xda app-developers app

WhiteNeo said:
Flash a soundmod.. Acid audio or Viper audio or PureAudio lite. Just to mention some of them.
You gotta try which one suits best your taste of music
Sent from my LT25i using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have a link where i can find them ?

Teshand said:
Do you have a link where i can find them ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Acid Audio: Good all-in-one-package. Very popular. But some say, it's a little unstable. (And I'm not quite sure if this one worked for me )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177709
Viper Audio: Lots of settings, but more a convoler. Some say it sounds a little unnatural, others love it.
Btw I recommend xHiFi version, it's better imo. ^^
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
PureXAudio: Clearest sound of them all. Also has a great bass! Using this one myself.
Make sure to only flash the lite version, as the full one only supports Xperia Z!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190558
Have fun with trying them!
Sent from my LT25i using xda app-developers app

Hello : Bro
Thank u so much for giving advise. Yesterday i tried to flash with PureXAudio but still limit for sound output for clear bass.
WhiteNeo said:
Acid Audio: Good all-in-one-package. Very popular. But some say, it's a little unstable. (And I'm not quite sure if this one worked for me )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177709
Viper Audio: Lots of settings, but more a convoler. Some say it sounds a little unnatural, others love it.
Btw I recommend xHiFi version, it's better imo. ^^
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
PureXAudio: Clearest sound of them all. Also has a great bass! Using this one myself.
Make sure to only flash the lite version, as the full one only supports Xperia Z!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190558
Have fun with trying them!
Sent from my LT25i using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

It's the OEM earpiece, if you are using it.

Speaker & Audio-Quality

How is the speaker audio-quality compared to something like HTC One devices?
Is the DAC & AMP somewhere near the quality of the HTC 10, LG V20 or Axon 7?
Regards Forsaked

I can only compare to the iPhone 6S.
The speaker of the P10 is a bit louder, but on the loudest setting it sounds a bit distorted or overdriven. When I set 2 steps down it sounds like the iPhone 6S in direct comparison. The loudest setting is good for ringtones and they sound really well, if you don't have songs like metal or trance as ringtone.
With headphones (Beyerdynamics DT-770) and some FLAC files I couldn't hear any differences.

Pocketnow made an audio review for the P10.
https://youtu.be/jBzEmOhfcSU

The loudness of headphone output is 1/3 of iphone 7, 40% quieter than Galaxy S7. Not very loud. Both Phonearena and GSMarena confirm this.

I can confirm that the sound in P10 is very nice in Bowers and Wilkins P5 jack.
If you run flacs and Hi-Res Audio its very nice. Blutooth in AAC is also nice.
The Sound in P10 is designed by Hardan Kardon and the DAC is made of Yamaha Commercial Audio
It is well enough loud, if you use the Huawei music app you must run DTS.
Its pros is rock, blues, vokal, acoustic, jazz, funk etc... The sound is egaging, dynamic, detailed and lively better than iphone 4S, and other mobiles ive tried. The phones strongest audio card is something called SEPARATION, between instruments, that is simply outstanding. You hear details of what drum it is, clear vokal, and all the instruments is well placed in a room.
Classical sounds nice, but is not its strongest card, it could have more clarity and focused details..
If your are a Beats head, that damage your ears with hiphop, Skrillex and tekno at high volume, maybe your not satisfyed.
I cranked House of Pain Jump around in Poweramp, and that sounded nice.
HTC 10 should on the papers have better audio sound tho.

But I want to know if the Huawei P10 is ready with drivers to connect a Dac via USB for example Dragonfly.
I ask this because alot of other people wants to know the same.

Works with ESS chipset in the B&O modular for the LG G5.

I prefer to disable DTS. Nice sound but the volume is a little lover than Htc

I just want to give my opinion on this:
I have both the Axon 7 and the P10 Plus and I must say that output is better in the P10 Plus, and I don't understand why.
I don't know what kind of sorcery does DTS mode, but it pumps the sound in a really nice way.
When you disable DTS, Axon 7 sounds better in HiFi res.
Probably is because there is no way to use the AKM DAC on the Axon 7 with a proper equalization, so even when the sound is good, it can't be used along the Dolby Atmos feature. Dolby Atmos only kicks in when using the speakers, or if you want to use it with headphones, it will automatically change to Snapdragon DAC. So far there is no way to use Atmos and the AKM dac together.
I'm using Sony XBA-H1 which I find pretty decent earbuds to test this.
:good:

Its Confirmed by Huawei that P10 use the latest Hi6403 soundchip (typical with Kirin960) that supports Hi-Rez
Its rumoured that Harman Kardon, and Yamaha Commercial Audio group has worked on the sound in P10

It's just to bad that the amplifier is to weak. It makes the volume lower than the competitors.

ClausG76 said:
It's just to bad that the amplifier is to weak. It makes the volume lower than the competitors.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know, but this P10 Plus sounds better than my Axon 7, and is supposed that Axon 7 is the best audio phone.
Activating DTS make everything more punchier and richier.

The Audio quality is great. But the low volume might be because of some EU regulations.

ClausG76 said:
The Audio quality is great. But the low volume might be because of some EU regulations.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Problem is that we don't have a way to equalize the output using the high quality dog, because as long as we turn on Dolby Atmos, it changes to Qualcomm one.
Is a pity we don't have a stock or default equalizer besides Dolby Atmos, because is useless if we want the best quality out of the headphone jack.

I don't know if this trick or a simualy trick works
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/guide-increase-headset-volume-t3624236

ClausG76 said:
I don't know if this trick or a simualy trick works
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/guide-increase-headset-volume-t3624236
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is not only about the volume, but more of the equalization, and no trick can help with that.

Galaxo60 said:
Is not only about the volume, but more of the equalization, and no trick can help with that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Poweramp?
Just hoping that beta testing is done soon for Hi rez audio version...
Sent fra min VTR-L29 via Tapatalk

Imnotdriving said:
But I want to know if the Huawei P10 is ready with drivers to connect a Dac via USB for example Dragonfly.
I ask this because alot of other people wants to know the same.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just connect and Play... I use a dragonfly Red, and It works fine

Have no problems with volume on my Sony 100 headphones jack and Poweramp or Sony music player Hi-rez
But sad not Poweramp has Hi-Rez support for Hua yet....
---------- Post added at 11:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:05 PM ----------
Have no problems with volume on my Sony 100 headphones jack and Poweramp or Sony music player Hi-rez
But sad not Poweramp has Hi-Rez support for Hua yet....

Using stock music player with my Trinity Master IEM (2BA drivers, 1 dynamic) and it has the best sound output so far among my existing devices (xiaomi mi3, nexus 5, oppo f1s). The sound is crisp and full. With DTS, everything sounds louder but more artificial.

Hi-Res Audio output

Does Nokia 7 Plus support Hi-Res Audio output?

Use poweramp alpha version for hi res output.

LDAC support already shown for the sony wi-h700 on android p dev beta

I am using poweramp alpha version 705 and the output via jack is 24bit 384Khz.
Auidio quality is great too and is improved after 2 updates..

vishuxperia said:
I am using poweramp alpha version 705 and the output via jack is 24bit 384Khz.
Auidio quality is great too and is improved after 2 updates..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have now bought a N7+ myself and I can comment more thoroughly on this.
I was intrigued by the above comment as to my knowledge, sample rates beyond 192khz are reserved for the flagship snapdragon 835 and 845 processors.
I went into a shop and downloaded some 352.8khz samples for 2l.no and to my surprise, not only did they work in google play music, but it sounded great.
Using USB Audio Player plus, I can see that the 352.8khz audio is being downsampled to 192khz for playback by android, I have no idea how the downsampling is done and I would rather it have been downsampled to an exact multiple, but nonetheless at those sample rates, it still sounds great. If you're an audiophille, you'll have an external dac anyway, it's just convenient to be able to play it back.
Dsd dsf files also playback in google play music, and in usb audio player pro, when output to the Android system, they are being output as 24bit 176.4khz.
I accept this as this content is extremely rare, and flagship grade, you're not going to get everything in a midrange phone.
I'll post screenshots and elaborate more on this later.
What I will say is that the headphone output and amp on the N7+ is solid and very decent, it's not as good as the LG Quad Dac on the g7/v30 but it more than does the job for listening to music even on some over ear headphones. It just makes the removal of the headphone jack on many flagship and Apple phones infuriating when you can get hi res audio this easily!

Leonccyiu said:
I have now bought a N7+ myself and I can comment more thoroughly on this.
I was intrigued by the above comment as to my knowledge, sample rates beyond 192khz are reserved for the flagship snapdragon 835 and 845 processors.
I went into a shop and downloaded some 352.8khz samples for 2l.no and to my surprise, not only did they work in google play music, but it sounded great.
Using USB Audio Player plus, I can see that the 352.8khz audio is being downsampled to 192khz for playback by android, I have no idea how the downsampling is done and I would rather it have been downsampled to an exact multiple, but nonetheless at those sample rates, it still sounds great. If you're an audiophille, you'll have an external dac anyway, it's just convenient to be able to play it back.
Dsd dsf files also playback in google play music, and in usb audio player pro, when output to the Android system, they are being output as 24bit 176.4khz.
I accept this as this content is extremely rare, and flagship grade, you're not going to get everything in a midrange phone.
I'll post screenshots and elaborate more on this later.
What I will say is that the headphone output and amp on the N7+ is solid and very decent, it's not as good as the LG Quad Dac on the g7/v30 but it more than does the job for listening to music even on some over ear headphones. It just makes the removal of the headphone jack on many flagship and Apple phones infuriating when you can get hi res audio this easily!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I totally agree with you, The headphone output is so much better in N7+ compared to similar priced devices in market.
I also own an OP2, OP3, OP3t and LgV20 and among all of these LG is on top followed by N7+ which is saying something about this device.

Question Mi11 Lack of Bass?

Hi Guys
Any way to make the Mi11 to sound better?

If you are rooted try James DSP with it's IRS files, it makes the speakers live again.

Not rooted

The equalizer not help?

The Stereo speakers are lacking bass

lil_kujo said:
If you are rooted try James DSP with it's IRS files, it makes the speakers live again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With so many options available, can you please share your configurations?

I had gf like that... try some headphones, buds instead. A man needs his bass

PandaKiller said:
With so many options available, can you please share your configurations?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use the viper irs Collection specifically beats Dolby or Dolby surround

lil_kujo said:
I use the viper irs Collection specifically beats Dolby or Dolby surround
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dolby is an inferior music encoding algorithm.
Ok for movies and games, most times.
I use Poweramp and wav/HDCD files.
Poweramp has one of the best or best graphic equalizer for Android.
When listening to music Dolby is always kept disabled... feel the wuv.
On a high end system I use it only for Dolby encoded movies.

GUARDIANBD said:
The Stereo speakers are lacking bass
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mi10 got better speaker, there is almost no bass comapre to Mi10

Linuxkek said:
Mi10 got better speaker, there is almost no bass comapre to Mi10
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, i thought it will be better because of Harman Kardon. I was using Iphone 12 before this device and must say that Iphone is on another level in terms of sound.