Hi-Resolution Audio and LDAC support. - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone know if the Z3s support LDAC? I am considering a Sony bluetooth speaker (SRS-X77/88/99) that use LDAC but can't find conclusive info. I understand the technology wasn't included in the initial android version but it may have been added with Lollipop.
Also, does it work under the hood anytime you connect to LDAC enabled device or is it in settings? My Z3C Music app has an option to enable DSEE-HX which is "near Hi-Res audio for wired headphones only..." and obviously different. Or in case LDAC support is not here now, any chance it'll come with Marshmallow?
If anyone can put this into perspective, I am sure it will be very useful to a lot Xperia users.
Thanks.

dstone567 said:
Does anyone know if the Z3s support LDAC? I am considering a Sony bluetooth speaker (SRS-X77/88/99) that use LDAC but can't find conclusive info. I understand the technology wasn't included in the initial android version but it may have been added with Lollipop.
Also, does it work under the hood anytime you connect to LDAC enabled device or is it in settings? My Z3C Music app has an option to enable DSEE-HX which is "near Hi-Res audio for wired headphones only..." and obviously different. Or in case LDAC support is not here now, any chance it'll come with Marshmallow?
If anyone can put this into perspective, I am sure it will be very useful to a lot Xperia users.
Thanks.
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I think it supports, i have the x55 and sound seems really good with the z3c. I have also xperia z but it's really hard to get the difference unless you have 24 bits music.
z3 with ldac give more bass frequency than z. But i don't know if it because of sound enhancement of z3 or ldac.
You can get more info by looking for information about 23.2.A.1.62 ftf which seems to add ldac support

Only the Z5 Series support LDAC
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4953253/1/

For Hi-res audio to work you need...
1) A High-res audio track
2) High res audio earphones ( 5hz-40khz Frequency Range )
If one of the above is not present you won't experience it

I understand that LDAC works with certain headphones and speakers. You can easily identify those on Sonys website. Z5s and Z3+ support it and official information is available. These phones also came with Lollipop out of the box.
My question is if Sony Z3C (or any other lollipop device for that matter) supports the technology? Some say it does, some it doesn't. It wasn't in the initial KitKat release, but it may have been added with Lollipop (specifically 23.2.A.1.62). Unfortunately, I couldn't find official information.
Since no one seems to know, I'll speculate a bit My guess is some devices (other then Z5/Z3+) suport LDAC, but Sony wants to push the Z5 line, they've decided to disclose that info.
Does anyone know if LDAC support can be confirmed on the device itself or if Sony keeps a detailed list with what's new with every update?

Officially only Z3+ / Z4 onwards model support LDAC out of the box.
But some user reported through firmware update (Build number 23.2.A.1.62) Z3 is supporting LDAC.
Igor Eisberg • 7 months ago
From my research, this release (23.2.A.1.62) vs the first Lollipop release for Z3 (23.1.A.0.690), I noticed 3 interesting things:
* Added Wireless LDAC support in SoundEnhancement.apk ( http://www.sony-asia.com/micro... ).
* An updated "lib/soundfx/libsonysweffect.so" file, which is responsible for all Sony sound effects, and without it the sound is poor in volume and quality. Most likely updated to support LDAC, not sure though.
* Some updated APKs and fixes in camera add-ons.

rayzy22 said:
Officially only Z3+ / Z4 onwards model support LDAC out of the box.
But some user reported through firmware update (Build number 23.2.A.1.62) Z3 is supporting LDAC.
Igor Eisberg • 7 months ago
From my research, this release (23.2.A.1.62) vs the first Lollipop release for Z3 (23.1.A.0.690), I noticed 3 interesting things:
* Added Wireless LDAC support in SoundEnhancement.apk ( ... ).
* An updated "lib/soundfx/libsonysweffect.so" file, which is responsible for all Sony sound effects, and without it the sound is poor in volume and quality. Most likely updated to support LDAC, not sure though.
* Some updated APKs and fixes in camera add-ons.
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Not official info, but some guy who did "research". Also SoundEnhancement.apk is not part of Lollipop, possibly even removed with KK update and the removal of the Walkman app.

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S4 active & Bluetooth APt-x

I recently purchase the At&t S4 active and a pairs of Sennheiser MM-550X,
Those of you who don't know apt-x is codec for bluetooth to keep the sound quality as the original (really close to) source sound files,
in compare to normal Bluetooth which downgrade sound quality to near 120Kbps.
SGS4 active supposed to support this but on the web there's so little information about it,
So.. I want to know how can i confirm Mine got the Apt-x? from what I heard some android version Not support this..
Does Acid audio engine support this?
Is anyone tried?
Thanks!
No need to create two identical threads.

Oreo and LDAC support

Hi guys,
I have a question concering LDAC on OOS 5.0 or other custom roms.
I just bought me some 1000xm2 Headphones and thought i can just update my Phone to Oreo and will be able to get some high quality bluetooth music. But it looks like LDAC isnt working. Someone mentioned libaries are missing. U can choose it on the bt audio settings but it wont work.
So is there a workaround for this problem or any custom rom that supports LDAC?
Thx in advance
geE68
Anybody?
gee68 said:
Hi guys,
I have a question concering LDAC on OOS 5.0 or other custom roms.
I just bought me some 1000xm2 Headphones and thought i can just update my Phone to Oreo and will be able to get some high quality bluetooth music. But it looks like LDAC isnt working. Someone mentioned libaries are missing. U can choose it on the bt audio settings but it wont work.
So is there a workaround for this problem or any custom rom that supports LDAC?
Thx in advance
geE68
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Hi,
Apparently LDAC codec in OP3T Oreo ROM is working, just it displays wrong information on developer settings
Just now I try my luck to find 1000XM2 but instead of that i found 1ABT, since that one is also LDAC capable so I tried that
Guess what, the Bluetooth codec show in developer settings is show wrong
aptx and aptxHD doesn't included inside the ROM, but LDAC does loaded (see the logcat I captured at attachment, first one is aptx and aptxHD can't load due to lib missing, second one is LDAC is indeed working properly)
But still I do hope that xda would bring this issue up since this is the serious matter that Qualcomm did put OnePlus 3 and 3T on aptx codec enabled device, but then they didn't implement due to "cause prohlem"? This sounds weird for me
Ok, thx for your answer, will try it 2morrow.
Cheers,
geE68

aptx HD

Hi, I understand the P20 Pro hardware supports aptx and aptx HD butdoes this work out of the box or does a codec need to be installed? I can see it in the Bluetooth section of the developer options but I can't select anything but SBC.
Thanks
jccrawfo said:
Hi, I understand the P20 Pro hardware supports aptx and aptx HD butdoes this work out of the box or does a codec need to be installed? I can see it in the Bluetooth section of the developer options but I can't select anything but SBC.
Thanks
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Do you have compatible head phones?
belloni said:
Do you have compatible head phones?
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Does the option only change when connected to a compatible Bluetooth receiver? I thought my car receiver was compatible but if that's the case then I guess not.
I had the same issue with regards to Bluetooth defaulting to SBC, after some reading I discovered that it was possible to change the Bluetooth mode on my headphones by holding a button combination, it went from prefer connection to prefer sound quality and unlocked aptx and LDAC on my Sony MDR-1000X. So the P20 Pro is definitely capable of it without any additional codecs.
Maybe read the manual for your device and see if it also has something like this.
Highspeed123 said:
I had the same issue with regards to Bluetooth defaulting to SBC, after some reading I discovered that it was possible to change the Bluetooth mode on my headphones by holding a button combination, it went from prefer connection to prefer sound quality and unlocked aptx and LDAC on my Sony MDR-1000X. So the P20 Pro is definitely capable of it without any additional codecs.
Maybe read the manual for your device and see if it also has something like this.
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I have this problem too.
On my OnePlus One i can change the audio codec, it should not depend on the bluetooth headphones connected. My Mpow Wolverine sounds way better with the One Plus One, on the P20 pro it sounds like sh*** ;any suggestion?
I have headphones that are both SBC and AAC compatible.
Paired to my pixel, aac works great.
Paired to p20, it sutters, skips and is stuck on SBC
I noticed when there is an actual icon just after the Bluetooth device name of my headphones that says 'APT-X', in the phones Bluetooth settings.... My previous Huawei P9 didn't have it or support it so did surprise me a little as I didn't look into it when switching.
On the P20 you can change the BT codec (in developper settings) but the settings doesn't stay...
killtoo said:
On the P20 you can change the BT codec (in developper settings) but the settings doesn't stay...
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Yes, same to me.
It's a bit frustrating, seems like i have to buy another Bt headphone, also another usb c headphone.. but that is another problem
Same **** here, guys.
PowerBeats 3 are in AAC with Pixel and S9, but in SBC with my P20 Pro. And I also hate that EQ is not avaliable.
I have emailed Huawei, but those dumb idiots are asking for IMEI and system version... They don't realise, that it's a wide problem....
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Contentear Huawei Team, I have purchased my P20 Pro during a first sales week at your store in Singapore. In general, I am happy with it, but, I have COMPLETELY confused with your audio experience. PROBLEM: I own two pairs of headphones: Bose QuietComfort 30 and PowerBeats 3. I don't understand why I am not able to tweak EQ over the bluetooth! S7 was able to do it, old Sony Z2 was able to do it too, but 1000$ phone by Huawei with triple camera and AI can't provide damn equalizer! I don't need any processing by Dolby, I just want to add some bass, because I am lisening to EDM, not a classical music, I don't need a analytical audio presentation. Then, codec selection is broken! PowerBeats are not able to get their native AAC, and Bose are working in SBC mode. What a shame! I can't tweak audio, and I have to listen compressed nonsense. I didn't expect that I will have to deal with such problem in the 1000$ phone. Please, release the software update, I would like to have at least eq.
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Has anyone got aptx HD working? Is it much better sound quality than ACC?
Thinking of buying some Sony 1000xM2 which are aptx HD compatible but if the sound quality isn't any better, I won't waste my money
walters2001 said:
Has anyone got aptx HD working? Is it much better sound quality than ACC?
Thinking of buying some Sony 1000xM2 which are aptx HD compatible but if the sound quality isn't any better, I won't waste my money
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My Sony MDR100's use LDAC and sound great. They have a built in EQ profile that kicks in once they are powered on according to reviews. I could of sworn it was using APTX HD at first but I was mistaken.
Jonathan-H said:
My Sony MDR100's use LDAC and sound great. They have a built in EQ profile that kicks in once they are powered on according to reviews. I could of sworn it was using APTX HD at first but I was mistaken.
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Ah, I didn't know the P20 Pro supported LDAC.
Just got to wait for my Bose to sell on eBay now
Tried on a few different headphones here. Seems apt-X is working, AAC is not.
110 firmware.
My p20 pro is on order and not arrived yet, but what you should try is:
1. Clear bluetooth connection of remembered device
2. Enable Developer settings, go to settings->about phone->click on 'buid number' a bunch of times (8?? from memory)
3. Go to: Settings->developer settings->the bluetooth sections and select whatever you want to be the normal
4. Re-connect your bluetooth device. If its compatible then it will default to your previous selection.
At least, this is how it works on my S8, Zenphone 3 deluxe and Oneplus 3T, with my Sony WH-1000XM2 and audiotechnica headsetsand WI-1000X.
But they all have custom roms and i have never had a Huawei so im not 100% sure.
In theory the Bose QC 35 ii headphones support both SDC and AAC but I can't select AAC in the developer settings. Are others having the same experience?
jccrawfo said:
In theory the Bose QC 35 ii headphones support both SDC and AAC but I can't select AAC in the developer settings. Are others having the same experience?
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Yeah I get the same issue with the bose headphones but ldac works when I connected to a sony speaker
Im in the process of buying some earphones that supportthe newer aptx low latency codec as I will be using them for gaming aswell. We know p20 pro supports aptx and aptx HD but does it support aptX LL
stephen.brader said:
Yeah I get the same issue with the bose headphones but ldac works when I connected to a sony speaker
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Yeah just received my Anker SoundBuds Curve headphones and it shows aptX next to the connection in the bluetooth settings. I guess AAC isn't supported as it's not listed on Huawei's tech specs page- https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/phones/m/p20-pro/tech-specs/ I also don't see aptX LL on there so I supposed that's also not supported
I've changed nothing. Only installed .128 Firmware with funky Huawei. When I connect my Ultrasone Sirius Bluetooth Headset there is automatically a aptx-Icon near the name. Nothing to change in developer-settings. See my picture on instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BjJm7k2D1pb/?taken-by=mmeidl78

APTX-HD for Rooted N960F

Hi all,
Would like to check if there is any way of installing APTX-HD on rooted note 9?
I've tried multiple methods including APTX for Android Oreo & Pie from Magisk.
May i know if anybody has gotten it to work?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you very much!
Current ROM: The Galaxy Project Ver 1.7.0
ffakingdom said:
Hi all,
Would like to check if there is any way of installing APTX-HD on rooted note 9?
I've tried multiple methods including APTX for Android Oreo & Pie from Magisk.
May i know if anybody has gotten it to work?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you very much!
Current ROM: The Galaxy Project Ver 1.7.0
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From what i heard APTX-HD will not work correctly on a Note 9! As it needs to send tons of bluetooth packets it will skip cut out etc, that's why the devs did not include it! LDAC is the best, stick with that codec!
ffakingdom said:
Hi all,
Would like to check if there is any way of installing APTX-HD on rooted note 9?
I've tried multiple methods including APTX for Android Oreo & Pie from Magisk.
May i know if anybody has gotten it to work?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you very much!
Current ROM: The Galaxy Project Ver 1.7.0
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I have several apt-x HD supported devices and I never got it to work. LDAC support is fantastic, as is standard APT-X.
Using sony WH-1000xm2 when selecting SBC, AAC, APT-X or LDAC from developer options will briefly stop the sound whilst it jumps to that codec, no such luck with APT-X HD. I don't believe that the codec is actually implemented on the Note9.
AptX-HD was supported on the Oreo version of the Note9.
I have two Level Pro headphones and after the Android Pie update lost the UHQ audio function from the Level app.
If you looked, you got LDAC and SBC, no AptX or HD.
Then I submit a bug report and they only brought back AptX on the latest version.
I think Samsung it's just trying to push their new Buds as the Level brand is being discounted in many markets.
Also Video Pro Mode was available on the Note9 and removed on the Pie update.
Now I can add my wife had the S8 Plus and she lost the UHQ audio from her Level app.
She went back to Apple at this time as they have better codec support.
Personally I am planning to get the Xperia that has 4K screen and yes, a long list of audio codecs and features.
Samsung keeps playing games, Qualcomm still supports Apt LL and HD, the hardware supports it but it is Samsung decision to remove it.
What's happening with aptx support in Android 10?
When Samsung removed AptX in Android Pie, I send an actual bug report with their support team, it was a pain, because they ask you to reset it then jump hoops.
At the end, they acknowledged that AptX should be "At least supported" because their line of Level headphones run on AptX and AptX HD.
Then I can say, with the next update, they added AptX to the list of supported codec.
Sony and many others are pushing LDAC for their headphones so probably just drop Samsung.
bluefish196 said:
with the next update, they added AptX to the list of supported codec.
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Are you saying that in Andoid 10 they have added AptX support to the Galaxy Note 9 again?
Are you sure?
If this is true, this is great news
ivo777 said:
Are you saying that in Andoid 10 they have added AptX support to the Galaxy Note 9 again?
Are you sure?
If this is true, this is great news
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I'm on a Sprint Note9(Snapdragon) UI. 2.0. Android 10.
The big difference is AptX supports 16Bit 48KHz and AptXhd support 24Bits also 48 KHz.
Here screenshots.

Question Use LDAC and Dual Audio

Hey there,
so I've ordered the Sony WH-1000xm4 and Linkbuds S, both with LDAC, but no aptX support.
To not be trapped in bad functioning SBC/AAC I want to activate LDAC to listen to my .flacs and co.
Heard I have to go for customROM to do so, as I do have Android 12, but Xiaomi does not support LDAC.
Also, Dual Sound, which means I can play one song on those two headphones simultaneously from one device
is supported by Samsung software wise, which means a customROM should also be able to do so I guess.
Xiaomi launched something similar a year back, but just for 1-2 flagships and you can connect at the same time,
but not play music at the same time with the headphones. (Both of mine have multipoint btw.)
Do you know of a customROM that matches both wishes?
Thaaanks
+1, after a long research i have no solution ford Dual Sound or dual Audio. Any mods or custom ROM to do that?

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