[Warning: I'm relatively new to Android. I've used it for about a year, and I have a decent understanding on how it works. I've rooted and used Safestrap before and know the basics on almost everything, but not much more.]
I'm planning on purchasing a license for Sunshine, and unlocking my bootloader for my new Turbo. I was planning on using it to install a custom rom, like CyanogenMod, since that's the only rom I've used before, and possibly trying some new ones. However, I realized that I would lose all the Motorola features, like Moto Voice, Moto Actions, Moto Display, and so on. I love these features and use them all the time, so I don't want to give them up. Is there some kind of way to keep them with a different rom?
I was thinking that maybe there was a custom rom that has these features, or maybe there's some way to install them onto a regular custom rom.
Any ideas?
Latiken said:
[Warning: I'm relatively new to Android. I've used it for about a year, and I have a decent understanding on how it works. I've rooted and used Safestrap before and know the basics on almost everything, but not much more.]
I'm planning on purchasing a license for Sunshine, and unlocking my bootloader for my new Turbo. I was planning on using it to install a custom rom, like CyanogenMod, since that's the only rom I've used before, and possibly trying some new ones. However, I realized that I would lose all the Motorola features, like Moto Voice, Moto Actions, Moto Display, and so on. I love these features and use them all the time, so I don't want to give them up. Is there some kind of way to keep them with a different rom?
I was thinking that maybe there was a custom rom that has these features, or maybe there's some way to install them onto a regular custom rom.
Any ideas?
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If you're planning on going to anything based on cyanogenmod, no. Someone would need to port these apps to the new rom, and no one has done that yet. However, some of the features can be replicated using other apps. For example, Moto Display is almost identical to the native android feature Ambient Display. You can use Ok Google voice commands for most Moto Voice applications.
An alternative would be to download a modified stock firmware (such as the one maintained by Computerfreek), or modify one yourself. This way, you can keep the Moto apps. Modifying your own firmware is very easy using TWRP (which you will install after unlocking your bootloader). Usually it's as simple as finding a flashable .zip file that contains the feature(s) you want to add and flashing it via TWRP.
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If you're planning on going to anything based on cyanogenmod, no. Someone would need to port these apps to the new rom, and no one has done that yet. However, some of the features can be replicated using other apps. For example, Moto Display is almost identical to the native android feature Ambient Display. You can use Ok Google voice commands for most Moto Voice applications.
An alternative would be to download a modified stock firmware (such as the one maintained by Computerfreek), or modify one yourself. This way, you can keep the Moto apps. Modifying your own firmware is very easy using TWRP (which you will install after unlocking your bootloader). Usually it's as simple as finding a flashable .zip file that contains the feature(s) you want to add and flashing it via TWRP.
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Hmmm... How would I go about creating the flashable .zip like you said. Remember, I'm still a relative noob.
Latiken said:
Hmmm... How would I go about creating the flashable .zip like you said. Remember, I'm still a relative noob.
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You don't need to. Just download the ones that you want. For example:
1. Upgrade to the latest official firmware (SU4TL-44) and unlock your bootloader with Sunshine.
2. Want root access? Use TWRP to flash SuperSU. Download that flashable zip here: https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip
3. Want to use the Xposed framework to easily modify your device in a ton of different ways? Use TWRP to flash it. Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811 (you need SDK22 arm)
4. Want to add audio optimizations? Flash PON-3. Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530976. Flash it, same as the others.
The installation for all of these is the same. Once your bootloader is unlocked and TWRP is installed, boot into TWRP, select "install", select the .zip file that you want to install, and flash it. Done.
TheSt33v said:
You don't need to. Just download the ones that you want. For example:
1. Upgrade to the latest official firmware (SU4TL-44) and unlock your bootloader with Sunshine.
2. Want root access? Use TWRP to flash SuperSU. Download that flashable zip here: https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip
3. Want to use the Xposed framework to easily modify your device in a ton of different ways? Use TWRP to flash it. Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811 (you need SDK22 arm)
4. Want to add audio optimizations? Flash PON-3. Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530976. Flash it, same as the others.
The installation for all of these is the same. Once your bootloader is unlocked and TWRP is installed, boot into TWRP, select "install", select the .zip file that you want to install, and flash it. Done.
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I've used Xposed before on my old Safestrap device. I thought about using Xposed on the stock rom, but I was hoping there was another option, since custom roms offer much more than Xposed modules do. Thanks for the links, I think I'll go with what you said. One question though, so there's no way to flash or install the Moto suite onto a custom rom (with or without TWRP)?
And one more thing, is it possible to use the IR sensors in the Turbo to wake up the Ambient display? (Like when you wave your hand over it and it shows the Moto Display.)
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I've used Xposed before on my old Safestrap device. I thought about using Xposed on the stock rom, but I was hoping there was another option, since custom roms offer much more than Xposed modules do. Thanks for the links, I think I'll go with what you said. One question though, so there's no way to flash or install the Moto suite onto a custom rom (with or without TWRP)?
And one more thing, is it possible to use the IR sensors in the Turbo to wake up the Ambient display? (Like when you wave your hand over it and it shows the Moto Display.)
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Settings -> Gestures & turn on Wave under Ambient Display
Cobra04 said:
Settings -> Gestures & turn on Wave under Ambient Display
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I'm not sure if I'm just an idiot, but where is Gestures?
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I'm not sure if I'm just an idiot, but where is Gestures?
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Should be in the Settings app under Device
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Should be in the Settings app under Device
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It's not there for me. I'm not sure if you think I'm running any modifications. I'm using pure stock.
Edit: I can't post images until I exceed 10 posts..
Latiken said:
It's not there for me. I'm not sure if you think I'm running any modifications. I'm using pure stock.
Edit: I can't post images until I exceed 10 posts..
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What ROM are you on?
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What ROM are you on?
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100% pure stock rom that ships with the Turbo
Latiken said:
I've used Xposed before on my old Safestrap device. I thought about using Xposed on the stock rom, but I was hoping there was another option, since custom roms offer much more than Xposed modules do. Thanks for the links, I think I'll go with what you said. One question though, so there's no way to flash or install the Moto suite onto a custom rom (with or without TWRP)?
And one more thing, is it possible to use the IR sensors in the Turbo to wake up the Ambient display? (Like when you wave your hand over it and it shows the Moto Display.)
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There is no way that I know of to get Moto et al working on a different rom. Like I said, the apps would have to be ported. I'm not very knowledgeable about what that entails, but I do know that the Moto apps need more than just their respective apks to function properly. They require extra libraries, drivers, etc. to work, most of which are probably kernel-related (you can't use the stock kernel on a non-Motorola rom). So someone porting those apps would have to either integrate these supplementary files into CM or AOSP or whatever, or rewrite the apps so that they rely on existing google code.
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There is no way that I know of to get Moto et al working on a different rom. Like I said, the apps would have to be ported. I'm not very knowledgeable about what that entails, but I do know that the Moto apps need more than just their respective apks to function properly. They require extra libraries, drivers, etc. to work, most of which are probably kernel-related (you can't use the stock kernel on a non-Motorola rom). So someone porting those apps would have to either integrate these supplementary files into CM or AOSP or whatever, or rewrite the apps so that they rely on existing google code.
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Dang it, that's unfortunate. Guess Xposed, and custom kernals and images will have to suffice. Thanks for the help!
Any recommendations for making the stock rom seem more custom?
Latiken said:
Dang it, that's unfortunate. Guess Xposed, and custom kernals and images will have to suffice. Thanks for the help!
Any recommendations for making the stock rom seem more custom?
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Xposed, particularly gravitybox. I'm not really sure what you meant when you said that custom roms offer so much more than xposed does. I used custom roms for a long time on my Galaxy S4, and except for AOSP vs TouchWiz or installing a more recent version of android, I can't think of a single thing that a custom rom can do that an xposed module can't.
TheSt33v said:
Xposed, particularly gravitybox. I'm not really sure what you meant when you said that custom roms offer so much more than xposed does. I used custom roms for a long time on my Galaxy S4, and except for AOSP vs TouchWiz or installing a more recent version of android, I can't think of a single thing that a custom rom can do that an xposed module can't.
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For me, custom roms don't exactly offer much more than modules do, but the experience of using a custom rom is much greater. Since everything is made by the same developers, it flows well with each other. Instead of having to rely on multiple modules that have to be updated, you can just install what is essentially a new OS, and get an entirely new flavour of Android.
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There is no way that I know of to get Moto et al working on a different rom. Like I said, the apps would have to be ported. I'm not very knowledgeable about what that entails, but I do know that the Moto apps need more than just their respective apks to function properly. They require extra libraries, drivers, etc. to work, most of which are probably kernel-related (you can't use the stock kernel on a non-Motorola rom). So someone porting those apps would have to either integrate these supplementary files into CM or AOSP or whatever, or rewrite the apps so that they rely on existing google code.
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But there are many functions and apps that do exactly the same thing.
Ambient Display = Moto Display
OK Google = Moto Voice
plus tons of apps to read notifications, texts, emails.
Etc.
I dumped my Motorola stuff months ago and have everything I need.
It's not that big a deal.
Open source is almost always better than proprietary stuff anyway.
ChazzMatt said:
But there are many functions and apps that do exactly the same thing.
Ambient Display = Moto Display
OK Google = Moto Voice
plus tons of apps to read notifications, texts, emails.
Etc.
It's not that big a deal.
Open source is almost always better than proprietary stuff anyway.
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Agreed. If you're willing to learn and set up some things, I bet you could get 100% moto functionality without a single moto app. Does anyone know of an app that will give me the chop-chop flashlight? Because when I eventually make the move to CM (assuming we ever get CM13), that will be the feature I miss most. And I'm being completely serious about that.
ChazzMatt said:
But there are many functions and apps that do exactly the same thing.
Ambient Display = Moto Display
OK Google = Moto Voice
plus tons of apps to read notifications, texts, emails.
Etc.
I dumped my Motorola stuff months ago and have everything I need.
It's not that big a deal.
Open source is almost always better than proprietary stuff anyway.
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I find Moto Display to be much cleaner than Ambient Display.
Moto Voice was nice because of the custom launch phrase, and the system commands you could do.
Moto Actions comes in handy almost every day, especially the Dual Chop and Camera wrist twist.
If I could find I way to replace all or most of this then I would be content.
Latiken said:
I find Moto Display to be much cleaner than Ambient Display.
Moto Voice was nice because of the custom launch phrase, and the system commands you could do.
Moto Actions comes in handy almost every day, especially the Dual Chop and Camera wrist twist.
If I could find I way to replace all or most of this then I would be content.
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Download Commandr from the play store. I think that allows you to customize your OK Google phrase. It also allows you to add or customize OK Google commands.
But yeah, I use the actions a lot too, and I don't know of an app that will replace them.
The problem I have with Ambient Display is that it doesn't work when I toggle my lockscreen off. MotoDisplay still showed me notifications. With ambient display and lockscreen off, I have no way to visually know my notifications.
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Has anyone installed google now on their d4?
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audinutt said:
Has anyone installed google now on their d4?
Sent from my cm_tenderloin using Tapatalk 2
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Eclipse ICS 1.2.2, ported by myfishbear, has fully functioning Google Now, with voice input/output included. Just update to the 217 ICS leak and flash eclipse and then flash the google now zip and you're in business
I went with Deodexed/Debloated ROM, and installed the Google Now ZIP from the Eclipse ICS thread. Works great.
(had issues with eclipse)
StuffedOtter said:
I went with Deodexed/Debloated ROM, and installed the Google Now ZIP from the Eclipse ICS thread. Works great.
(had issues with eclipse)
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I assume you install it through CWM? How is the battery life after installing? Also, do we now whether it is the same version as in this thread or older http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29756226&postcount=2856?
GermanGuy said:
I assume you install it through CWM? How is the battery life after installing? Also, do we now whether it is the same version as in this thread or older http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29756226&postcount=2856?
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Yes, it's a ZIP you install through recovery. I'm using SafeStrap (essentially CWM). If you aren't using SafeStrap, I do recommend you take a look at it. It's a nice safe way to test ROMs and other things that might be considered dangerous.
I can't really say anything about battery life yet. I've only been playing with this ROM for a couple days. You know how it goes with installing apps, indexing, caching, syncing.. things need a little time to calm down. However, I can't really imagine any of the ROMs being worse on battery.
And Google Now needs time to learn. I've read that Google Now uses the settings for Home and Work locations from the Navigation app, so I set up my work and home locations in there, and it's notifying me with traffic at the appropriate times.
It's probably the same version. 36megs sounds about right. myfishbear has kept everything very current in his Eclipse thread.
Just for reference, I'm on ICS leak 217.
If you want a ton of extra features, than eclipse is the way to go!
alex94kumar said:
If you want a ton of extra features, than eclipse is the way to go!
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Not sure if I did something wrong, but I tried 3 different revisions of Eclipse (including 1.2.1 and 1.2.2). Every time I installed it, I had only 4 of the 5 icons show up at the bottom of the launcher. My corporate email security settings (requires PIN) wouldn't work, and if there are any customization options (like UI settings in other ROMs, or even launcher settings), I couldn't find them.
I've installed numerous roms on other devices, so I really can't imagine what I did wrong.
Boot to SafeStrap.
Make sure SAFE system is enabled.
Wipe Data / Factory Reset.
Install ROM ZIP.
Install GoogleNow ZIP.
Win! (well, win for everyone else...)
I tried Infektion ROM as well. The only issue I had there was the same issue with my corporate email security settings. And the screen rotation bug from CM9.
I tried clearing caches, fixing permissions, re-installing, re-re-installing.
My unsafe system is ICS leak 217, no mods. Works great.
My safe system is Deodexed/Debloated ICS 217 plus GoogleNow. Works great.
Hmm, you should go to the eclipse thread and ask myfishbear if he can help you
alex94kumar said:
Hmm, you should go to the eclipse thread and ask myfishbear if he can help you
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My post-count is less than 10. So I'm not allowed to post in the dev thread. Also, it sounds like Eclipse works for everyone else. My fail brings me great shame.
Many of you i'm sure have had a previous phone or tablet with a custom ROM on it where if you click the apk & install it, it shows a version info tab. (see screenshot). I actually enjoy this feature especially since I load many apks from the device.
Is there a way to accomplish this on the Moto X without a custom ROM of sorts? I was thinking maybe an Xposed module, however i'm not sure if one exists. If not, I think having someone make one would be cool.
Have any of you come across this?
The screenshot is actually from my Nexus 7 2013 running OmniRom.
Just ordered my XZ1C and looking forward to joining this community!
I'm looking to root and install systemless xposed (Magisk) on the XZ1C while keeping camera functionality equivalent to stock quality. It would be great if the solution allows me to keep current with new ROM versions (primarily for security updates). What is less important:
- Ok with either stock or custom ROMs (access to ongoing security updates most important)
- Know that DRM keys will be gone forever (but as long as camera functionality still there, that's fine)
- Ok with using any camera app (stock, gcam, etc.) as long as it retains quality similar to stock
After trawling through this and the XZ1 forum, I believe there are 3 options to achieve what I need (root and xposed), and would like advice from the community on pros/cons of each of the following:
1. Custom ROM with DRM fix included: Unlock bootloader, install TWRP, install custom ROM which comes with DRM fix (e.g. @modpunk 's LineageOS, @russel5 's RR or AOSP)
2. @janjan 's kernel: Unlock bootloader, update to latest compatible stock firmware using flashtool, install janjan's DRM fix kernel
3. Xperifix: "automated" black-box solution and fingers crossed that it works
Any recommendations on which option would be best for me given my objectives? Thanks!
You can use my stock mod. Ddmfix included, superuser mod, deodexed, on the last page of thread you can find fix for xposed
wyt18 said:
Any recommendations on which option would be best for me given my objectives?
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russel5's rom is pretty amazing, full of features and falls into number 1 on your list.
2 and 3 refrence stock roms with either a fixed kernel or automated flashing of all the files you need.
The stock camera is best and as much as I am tempted by rr, I don't think it beats stock camera software for pictures. So I'd say a lot of your decision has to do with how much you like taking pictures?
The stock firmware from April .75 is the last firmware that works with Xposed and one of your problems will be finding a copy of that to flash and downgrade your new arrival.
You might need to get janjan's old (.75) kernel from github as he is only showing the latest 16.20 on his thread.
I get moaned at for promoting Xperiafix because it's paid software, but it's a one stop shop, it does everything and it's so easy. It has worked smoothly every time I've used it
Depending on your skillset and how many files you want to find and flash Vs one program.
Didgesteve said:
russel5's rom is pretty amazing, full of features and falls into number 1 on your list.
2 and 3 refrence stock roms with either a fixed kernel or automated flashing of all the files you need.
The stock camera is best and as much as I am tempted by rr, I don't think it beats stock camera software for pictures. So I'd say a lot of your decision has to do with how much you like taking pictures?
The stock firmware from April .75 is the last firmware that works with Xposed and one of your problems will be finding a copy of that to flash and downgrade your new arrival.
You might need to get janjan's old (.75) kernel from github as he is only showing the latest 16.20 on his thread.
I get moaned at for promoting Xperiafix because it's paid software, but it's a one stop shop, it does everything and it's so easy. It has worked smoothly every time I've used it
Depending on your skillset and how many files you want to find and flash Vs one program.
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Thanks!
- so seems like between Xposed and having the latest security updates, I have to choose one of the two. Or might there be a workaround for Xposed on the 16.20 stock rom?
- with xperifix, can one achieve Xposed? (Whether on latest or downgraded rom?)
- purchased this phone partly for the camera, so I will go with stock rom if that has the best quality. Does stock rom also have a portrait or lens blur mode similar to google cam?
wyt18 said:
Thanks!
- so seems like between Xposed and having the latest security updates, I have to choose one of the two. Or might there be a workaround for Xposed on the 16.20 stock rom?
- with xperifix, can one achieve Xposed? (Whether on latest or downgraded rom?)
- purchased this phone partly for the camera, so I will go with stock rom if that has the best quality. Does stock rom also have a portrait or lens blur mode similar to google cam?
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As far as I'm aware there's no way a stock rom 16.20 will work with Xposed. There are several custom roms that are updated to 16.20, but still pull historical parts of the framework with them to make Xposed work.
Xperiaifx will work on .75 firmware. It will install TWRP, Magisk and the fix. Once you have Magisk on it you can install the Xposed framework module (SDK26)
The Sony camera has many addons, I don't know about portrait.
Google camera works on russel5's rr, but again the quality isn't up to stock.
Having been through the pollava of unlocking and rooting my phone, I'd say the advantages don't outweigh the effort and problems. Every time there's an update to the firmware, which is quite often with Sony, you have to wait and hope some nice developer is going to make the files you need to keep up to date. Then go through a long proccess with downloading the new firmware with Xperiafirm, then flashing with Newflasher and then whatever files you need to reflash from the developer. You'll never get OTA updates again. Having a rooted phone is a pain in the neck.
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As far as I'm aware there's no way a stock rom 16.20 will work with Xposed. There are several custom roms that are updated to 16.20, but still pull historical parts of the framework with them to make Xposed work.
Xperiaifx will work on .75 firmware. It will install TWRP, Magisk and the fix. Once you have Magisk on it you can install the Xposed framework module (SDK26)
The Sony camera has many addons, I don't know about portrait.
Google camera works on russel5's rr, but again the quality isn't up to stock.
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Thats not right, I use now firmware 16.20 with janjans kernel and russel5's xposed fix (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77778634&postcount=47) it works, and I'm very happy with it. Thanks to janjan and russel5 for his xposed fix (and mod)
Good news
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Thats not right, I use now firmware 16.20 with janjans kernel and russel5's xposed fix (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77778634&postcount=47) it works, and I'm very happy with it. Thanks to janjan and russel5 for his xposed fix (and mod)
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hi @d_fens. how did you go about installing this system less xposed fix on your stock oreo 16.20? should i do the following:
1. stock oreo 16.20
2. flash magisk via twrp.
3. boot into phone and copy xposed fix into /system/framework/
4. then flash systemless xposed via twrp?
thanks
wyt18 said:
Thanks!
- so seems like between Xposed and having the latest security updates, I have to choose one of the two. Or might there be a workaround for Xposed on the 16.20 stock rom?
- with xperifix, can one achieve Xposed? (Whether on latest or downgraded rom?)
- purchased this phone partly for the camera, so I will go with stock rom if that has the best quality. Does stock rom also have a portrait or lens blur mode similar to google cam?
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i used janjan's mod to get systemless root on stock. with this you are able to update using newflasher all the latest roms with security updates provided by Sony
you don't have to choose between xposed and the latest security updates:
for xposed, i've tried both Taichi Magisk (taichi.cool) and Virtual Xposed (also via Magisk). both work fine but Taichi is a smoother implementation (only activates xposed for those apps that you whitelist). it is however not open source (yet), though this was not a concern for me. also, it supports not all xposed apps but a subset
the xposed modules that i absolutely needed to have are all working on Taichi: Xposed Edge, CorePatch, AppContext, WeXposed, God Mode
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hi @d_fens. how did you go about installing this system less xposed fix on your stock oreo 16.20? should i do the following:
1. stock oreo 16.20
2. flash magisk via twrp.
3. boot into phone and copy xposed fix into /system/framework/
4. then flash systemless xposed via twrp?
thanks
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yes that`s the way, which worked for me
G'day
I'm sick of google and everything they are about. Don't be evil my arse. I already do the simple stuff like using brave browser and duck duck go search. I'm hoping someone can advise me on how to strip my phone of as much google as possible and replace with aosp alternatives. Or even just point me towards some guides on it.
I am using a Samsung galaxy a22 5g rooted with magisk stock rom.
Thanks
I think you might want to flash a custom ROM, then use something like MicroG Magisk, NanoDroid or FOSSApps. Ungoogling an already Googled stock ROM might be more pain than flashing something community developed.
I'm currently running Lineage with Magisk GApps (so I can remove them anytime) and I'm slowly getting ready for the transition. So I'm also looking for more information.
I set up a VPS for myself (might be an overkill for you, but inspiration nonethelss) and I'm hosting OnlyOFFICE Community there and using their apps, I also host my own BitWarden password storage and a mail server (was kinda pain to set it up with all the methods for spam verification). This way some of my most sensitive data is kept on an encrypted drive on a server I myself control.
Then there's getting apps which are mainly available through Google Play - I found that uptodown does host apks, but that's far from an actually viable option (considering you really have to trust them when you're downloading apps there). Alternative stores providing the same apps as Google Play are always kinda worrying to use & trust.
So that's my two cents worth and a starting point, I'll also gladly accept some tips & tricks to accomplish this entirely, it's a long-lasting dream to leave Google altogether.
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de-google
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i think it's better to use a custom aosp rom with no gapps
if you still want stock rom :
make a recovery backup of "system" just in case
mount system
the folders that have apps are :
system/app
system/priv-app
system/product/app
system/product/priv-app
(if you use A11+ check also system-ext/app and priv-app)
delete anyhing related to google
if you don't want to delete use lucky patcher or titanium backup to freez them
if you choose freezing, make a recovery backup of "data"
hajdulak said:
I found that uptodown does host apks
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do not !
site : apkpure or apkmirror
app : Aurora Store
loopypalm said:
do not !
site : apkpure or apkmirror
app : Aurora Store
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Nice, thanks for that! ♥
hajdulak said:
I think you might want to flash a custom ROM, then use something like MicroG Magisk, NanoDroid or FOSSApps. Ungoogling an already Googled stock ROM might be more pain than flashing something community developed.
I'm currently running Lineage with Magisk GApps (so I can remove them anytime) and I'm slowly getting ready for the transition. So I'm also looking for more information.
I set up a VPS for myself (might be an overkill for you, but inspiration nonethelss) and I'm hosting OnlyOFFICE Community there and using their apps, I also host my own BitWarden password storage and a mail server (was kinda pain to set it up with all the methods for spam verification). This way some of my most sensitive data is kept on an encrypted drive on a server I myself control.
Then there's getting apps which are mainly available through Google Play - I found that uptodown does host apks, but that's far from an actually viable option (considering you really have to trust them when you're downloading apps there). Alternative stores providing the same apps as Google Play are always kinda worrying to use & trust.
So that's my two cents worth and a starting point, I'll also gladly accept some tips & tricks to accomplish this entirely, it's a long-lasting dream to leave Google altogether.
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Hey thanks for the reply and info. Flashing an aosp custom rom would be my usual go to. However I've been on an oppo with unlockable bootlader for last 18 months and now I got this samsung I find there is zero rom dev on this phone. The only options I can find are GSI which is a new concept to me and I'm a little uncertain about going that route.
loopypalm said:
i think it's better to use a custom aosp rom with no gapps
if you still want stock rom :
make a recovery backup of "system" just in case
mount system
the folders that have apps are :
system/app
system/priv-app
system/product/app
system/product/priv-app
(if you use A11+ check also system-ext/app and priv-app)
delete anyhing related to google
if you don't want to delete use lucky patcher or titanium backup to freez them
if you choose freezing, make a recovery backup of "data"
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Cheers for this. Agree on the first statement but having been on an oppo with unlockable bootlader for last 18 months and now I got this samsung I find there is zero rom dev on this phone. The only options I can find are GSI which is a new concept to me and I'm a little uncertain about going that route.
Do you think I should go with a GSI rom? If safe and stable I'm happy to do the research because I'd love to get a custom aosp rom going on this.
Afaik this samsung can't even access fastboot gotta use the Samsung flashing software instead and the only thread on twrp for this phone is experimental and doesn't seem to be confirmed as working by anyone.
Hence why so far I've stuck with stock and magisk
I used to flash heaps of roms and kernels on older devices but this whole GSI thing is new to me. If it's dicey I'll go the TB route with the folders you pointed me to. Cheers
Champdroid said:
Do you think I should go with a GSI rom?
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if yo can backup system/vendor/boot/dtbo/data then go for it
if not , you will have to reflash the stock if anything goes wrong ...
Champdroid said:
Afaik this samsung can't even access fastboot gotta use the Samsung flashing software instead and the only thread on twrp for this phone is experimental and doesn't seem to be confirmed as working by anyone.
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looks like your options are risky , google the app name before freezing ...
don't freez :
"google Extservice" or something like that
"settingintelligencegoogle" and "modulemetadatagoogle"
Champdroid said:
Hence why so far I've stuck with stock and magisk
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sell it and get a device with good devlopment ...
loopypalm said:
if yo can backup system/vendor/boot/dtbo/data then go for it
if not , you will have to reflash the stock if anything goes wrong ...
looks like your options are risky , google the app name before freezing ...
don't freez :
"google Extservice" or something like that
"settingintelligencegoogle" and "modulemetadatagoogle"
sell it and get a device with good devlopment ...
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Cool cheers for your help mate. Touche on the last point. New job with nice pay bump coming so that will be the go I think.
I use Graphene OS on my Pixel 6 and CalyXOS on the 4a. Both are very good degoogled ROMs.
I built a Magisk module for this some time ago. However, it's very likely that it won't work anymore and will probably cause a bootloop. I'm only posting it in case someone wants to use the repo as inspiration.
Kermina Awad / DeGoogle · GitLab
Google? A Magisk module which removes, Google?
gitlab.com
MartK87 said:
I use Graphene OS on my Pixel 6 and CalyXOS on the 4a. Both are very good degoogled ROMs.
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you forgot to mention that both GrapheneOS and CalyXOS are available ONLY for the Pixel phones
and the Pixels have a unique feature - the bootloader can be locked back AFTER flashing a custom ROM
Well I stand corrected ( said the man in the orthopaedic shoes)
want de-google? buy and iphone and done
I wanted to ask if there is any new information regarding a global rom or a custom rom? I would definitely be flashing it right away.
Best hope for that will be when the S version is released. According to available information it is virtually identical to the X, so the firmware might be transferable.
can't wait!
Hopefully.
I’m not sure how things will go. I would much prefer working with aosp to get a booting gsi rom personally
TBH I've got the X working so well now that I don't really see a huge need for a new ROM. If someone gets it working and shows a benefit then...
Yes, of course it works and doesn't cause any problems, but I would like only the voice assistants from Google
and android auto, all the rest is ok
Android auto is dead in the game bro'
Are there any new advances?
i suppose nothing, there is trouble with Vivo and unsecure Boootloader. Nobody seems interested by solid and friendly solution to unlock then after port a rom on this baby !
lesscro said:
i suppose nothing, there is trouble with Vivo and unsecure Boootloader. Nobody seems interested by solid and friendly solution to unlock then after port a rom on this baby !
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that's a shame. I would really appreciate a custom rom or at least a European supported rom
A multilingual ROM (like Global) who can be really adapted to our market can be nice. Anyway X Fold S is just a small update and not a global phone market.
My magisk module for Android Auto and Google Assistant should work on vivo X Fold too.
[MIX Fold 2][MAGISK] Global ROM-ify module collection [Add translations, Google Assistant, Android Auto]
I decided to create a module sharing thread here. If Magisk is enabled, all modules will continue to work after the OTA update. (use "Install to Inactive Slot" method) If Magisk is disabled, the module also loses its effectiveness. Add official...
forum.xda-developers.com
AndroPlus said:
My magisk module for Android Auto and Google Assistant should work on vivo X Fold too.
[MIX Fold 2][MAGISK] Global ROM-ify module collection [Add translations, Google Assistant, Android Auto]
I decided to create a module sharing thread here. If Magisk is enabled, all modules will continue to work after the OTA update. (use "Install to Inactive Slot" method) If Magisk is disabled, the module also loses its effectiveness. Add official...
forum.xda-developers.com
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I can confirm this works perfectly Google assistant works.
Haven't tried Android auto but I would be stunned if it didn't work
domineus said:
I can confirm this works perfectly Google assistant works.
Haven't tried Android auto but I would be stunned if it didn't work
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You install Magisk ? With boot.img did you use ?
I install magisk and he ask me to choose an img...
I use magisk long time ago on custom rom, it was more easy...
I need to download official rom and extract boot.img ?
lesscro said:
You install Magisk ? With boot.img did you use ?
I install magisk and he ask me to choose an img...
I use magisk long time ago on custom rom, it was more easy...
I need to download official rom and extract boot.img ?
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You can extract boot.img in two ways:
1. What you described
2. Use DSU Loader and pull the file out using the following commands in adb:
adb shell
su
dd if=/dev/block/by-name/boot of=/data/local/tmp/boot.img
chown shell.shell /data/local/tmp/boot.img
(After the end of adb shell)adb pull /data/local/tmp/boot.img
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RR-99 said:
TBH I've got the X working so well now that I don't really see a huge need for a new ROM. If someone gets it working and shows a benefit then...
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Can you share your experience with us as to what you did to get rid of Chinese and bloat sw?
domineus said:
You can extract boot.img in two ways:
1. What you described
2. Use DSU Loader and pull the file out using the following commands in adb:
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Thx for your feedback.
Does this install will wipe all data ?
lesscro said:
Thx for your feedback.
Does this install will wipe all data ?
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When I rooted it didn’t. When I BLU I think it did
kanf77 said:
Can you share your experience with us as to what you did to get rid of Chinese and bloat sw?
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I haven't removed any Chinese bloatware, since I didn't find it was slowing down the phone or using too much memory. Quite happy to have it just sit there instead of risking removing too much.