I'm living in Korea right now.
SK telecom has already released their LTE snapdragon a couple of weeks ago.
I heard rumors that KT was to release their 3g model, but what I had found out is that it's the LTE snapdragon model with 3g enabled.
This is very disappointing news to me as I expected the exynos processor from KT.
Now a few questions:
1. I've heard that snapdragon vs exynos difference on paper looks massive, but user experience is about the same, is this true?
2. Where are the reputable sellers for gnote 3g model (I heard amazon and handtech)
3. For those users that bought it overseas.. how are you handling no warranty? Korea samsung provides great warranty (even if you break the phone on accident) they'll replace it for free. I'm very scared that one day the galaxy note 3g version might just die and i'll be out of luck.
Thanks for reading... so excited to pull the trigger..
aigoya said:
I'm living in Korea right now.
SK telecom has already released their LTE snapdragon a couple of weeks ago.
I heard rumors that KT was to release their 3g model, but what I had found out is that it's the LTE snapdragon model with 3g enabled.
This is very disappointing news to me as I expected the exynos processor from KT.
Now a few questions:
1. I've heard that snapdragon vs exynos difference on paper looks massive, but user experience is about the same, is this true?
2. Where are the reputable sellers for gnote 3g model (I heard amazon and handtech)
3. For those users that bought it overseas.. how are you handling no warranty? Korea samsung provides great warranty (even if you break the phone on accident) they'll replace it for free. I'm very scared that one day the galaxy note 3g version might just die and i'll be out of luck.
Thanks for reading... so excited to pull the trigger..
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1) According to Engadget it's true - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20440114&postcount=9
2) I'd probably get it from Amazon but if you're in Korea already you should have other options. Have you considered contacting Samsung in Korea?
3) Good question, if there is a presence in your country for the source you purchased it from, I've heard there should be coverage but I'd like to know for sure before ordering..
Let us know what you decide,
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1) According to Engadget it's true - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20440114&postcount=9
2) I'd probably get it from Amazon but if you're in Korea already you should have other options. Have you considered contacting Samsung in Korea?
3) Good question, if there is a presence in your country for the source you purchased it from, I've heard there should be coverage but I'd like to know for sure before ordering..
Let us know what you decide,
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That link actually proves how unreliable the Snapdragon is...
The Snapdragon had Quadrant scores of anywhere from 2100-3300 which is EXTREMELY unstable...
My old S2 got consistant Quadrant scores of 3600-3700 on Stock
aigoya said:
I'm living in Korea right now.
SK telecom has already released their LTE snapdragon a couple of weeks ago.
I heard rumors that KT was to release their 3g model, but what I had found out is that it's the LTE snapdragon model with 3g enabled.
This is very disappointing news to me as I expected the exynos processor from KT.
Now a few questions:
1. I've heard that snapdragon vs exynos difference on paper looks massive, but user experience is about the same, is this true?
2. Where are the reputable sellers for gnote 3g model (I heard amazon and handtech)
3. For those users that bought it overseas.. how are you handling no warranty? Korea samsung provides great warranty (even if you break the phone on accident) they'll replace it for free. I'm very scared that one day the galaxy note 3g version might just die and i'll be out of luck.
Thanks for reading... so excited to pull the trigger..
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1) It's actually the opposite. On paper, the Snapdragon looks amazing with it's 1.5ghz clock speed compared to the Exynos 1.4ghz, but the Snapdragon is very unreliable.
Quadrant Score that vary within the thousands usually mean that occasional or frequent lag on the homescreen are visible. Thus was the case with the AT&T ****rocket (The LTE S2)
2) Handtec, Clove, Amazon are all good places
3) The OG Note works with HSPA+ and will most likely have more sales than the LT**** note. Just look at the int'l S2 and compare those forums to the Skyrocket forums. It's like 50 devs versus 2-5 devs in the ****rocket forums.
xAnimal5 said:
That link actually proves how unreliable the Snapdragon is...
The Snapdragon had Quadrant scores of anywhere from 2100-3300 which is EXTREMELY unstable...
My old S2 got consistant Quadrant scores of 3600-3700 on Stock
1) It's actually the opposite. On paper, the Snapdragon looks amazing with it's 1.5ghz clock speed compared to the Exynos 1.4ghz, but the Snapdragon is very unreliable.
Quadrant Score that vary within the thousands usually mean that occasional or frequent lag on the homescreen are visible. Thus was the case with the AT&T ****rocket (The LTE S2)
2) Handtec, Clove, Amazon are all good places
3) The OG Note works with HSPA+ and will most likely have more sales than the LT**** note. Just look at the int'l S2 and compare those forums to the Skyrocket forums. It's like 50 devs versus 2-5 devs in the ****rocket forums.
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At the source link http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-review/ the chart is better formatted showing different devices (not instances) for Galaxy S II Skyrocket ; AT&T Galaxy S II ; T-Mobile Galaxy S II ; HTC Vivid Benchmarks
"Another wild card in the Skyrocket's performance is the 1.5GHz Qualcomm APQ8060 (Snapdragon S3) CPU and accompanying Adreno 220 GPU, the same SoC setup as we saw on T-Mo's flavor. How does it hold up against the almighty Exynos processor found in so many of the other members of the Galaxy S II family? Pretty well, actually. While we've had a strong admiration for the processing prowess of Samsung's homegrown silicon, the Skyrocket's chip isn't anywhere close to a slouch either. In fact, unless you're paying close attention, you probably won't even notice a difference at all. The Qualcomm-powered device handled itself well throughout our menial myriad of tasks and didn't skip a beat.
The Skyrocket booted up in 25 seconds and was incredibly responsive from that time forward. Not once did the phone crash during our graphics-intensive activities, nor did it hiccup at any point in our multitasking. Animations were smooth as butter, as was the touch responsiveness."
In Korea, cell phone plans get a discount depending on the plan. The higher then plan, the higher the discount.
So just guestimating, if I get one of the Korean LTE models, I will be able to save $200-$400 depending on the plan vs getting the 3g european model.
So it begs the options:
Pay $200-$400: exynos + awesome xda developer support, 3g unlimited
Save $200-$400: qualcom, small if not no dev support, 4g LTE capped
aigoya said:
In Korea, cell phone plans get a discount depending on the plan. The higher then plan, the higher the discount.
So just guestimating, if I get one of the Korean models, I will be able to save $200-$400 depending on the plan vs getting the 3g model.
So it begs the options:
Pay $200-$400: exynos + awesome xda developer support, 3g
Save $200-$400: qualcom, small if not no dev support, 4g LTE
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Depends on your budget & what you want to do with it now? There will likely be more dev support if AT&T announce their LTE version in a few weeks. I'm trying to hold out for more info on AT&Ts LTE version as it should be more future-proof & by this month's end I should be in an LTE market but I'd rather not wait until April if that's really what they would announce soon. You have options now & don't have to wait!
How are the speeds of each in Korea & how often are you on Wi-Fi & all mobile data would be capped at what?
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Depends on your budget & what you want to do with it now? There will likely be more dev support if AT&T announce their LTE version in a few weeks. I'm trying to hold out for more info on AT&Ts LTE version as it should be more future-proof & by this month's end I should be in an LTE market but I'd rather not wait until April if that's really what they would announce soon. You have options now & don't have to wait!
How are the speeds of each in Korea & how often are you on Wi-Fi & all mobile data would be capped at what?
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Unfortunately korean models are different than usa models because of firmware. I know this first hand as i own the korean galaxy tab 10.1 and failed to install custom roms as well as other korean gtab owners.
As for the speed ill get back to you tomorrow. My coworker has an lte phone so i can get someanswers for you.
I want to buy a Note 4, but I am unsure which chipset I should go for. I want the exynos chipset, but I am very doubtful about it. My only question is: Why does samsung ship exynos equipped Note 4 to poor countries and the snapdragon version to richer countries? I doubt that the snapdragon equipped Note 4 may be better built, more reliable and more stable than the exynos one, but I am not sure about this. Some people complain about different issues, like screen tint, glass edge gap, etc. What do you guys think of this? Can you share your experiences and thoughts?
All the answers you seek are in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/to-snapdragon-805-to-exynos-5433-t2868247
Quality between the two are pretty much the same, just different chips.
Exynos is also shipped to the middle east countries, such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, I dunno if you can call them poor countries lol.
They only shipped exynos versions to poor countries? Lol thats the funniest statement i read so far
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Can OP give a link to where he/she got the statement saying exynos only ship to poor country??
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Exynos is much better for me, it depends on the user.. Lol.. I merely drop on the floor laughing for the poor country line.. Hahaha..
He is right UK, Germany , Italy, France, Spain and US all have snapdragon equipped Note 4
so maybe he have something in his statement
The nordics also get snapdragon so it does seem Samsung is shipping the exynos to third world countries and not risking it in developed countries.
Western and indrustrialised countries get the snapdragon, third world ones get the exynos, with very few exceptions. I myself want an exynos, but I know that in general the same product's quality (like the same car or the same clothes) differs depending on the country it is going to be shipped to. A friend of mine who works in an electronic service, repairing different electronic products also told me this from his long experience in that field. It's a fact, but I'm not sure if this is the case here.
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I want to buy a Note 4, but I am unsure which chipset I should go for. I want the exynos chipset, but I am very doubtful about it. My only question is: Why does samsung ship exynos equipped Note 4 to poor countries and the snapdragon version to richer countries? I doubt that the snapdragon equipped Note 4 may be better built, more reliable and more stable than the exynos one, but I am not sure about this. Some people complain about different issues, like screen tint, glass edge gap, etc. What do you guys think of this? Can you share your experiences and thoughts?
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Errm, the UAE and New Zealand are certainly not 'poor countries' and as I understand the former got N910C and latter N910U, both Exynos.
Here in South Africa we got the Euro N910F Snapdragon, the Exynos N910C and the 3G only N910H, so what does that make us?
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Errm, the UAE and New Zealand are certainly not 'poor countries' and as I understand the former got N910C and latter N910U, both Exynos.
Here in South Africa we got the Euro N910F Snapdragon, the Exynos N910C and the 3G only N910H, so what does that make us?
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How much do these variants cost?
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How much do these variants cost?
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Here in SA? Between $910-$1045, the N910F being the most expensive and N910H being the least expensive of the 3.
That's BS. Am in Germany and I got the Exynos N910C. Unless Germany belongs to the poor countries[emoji85]
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Exynos is better SOC and period. I have no lag using TW, snapdragon version does....
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silicij said:
Exynos is better SOC and period. I have no lag using TW, snapdragon version does....
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My friend has galaxy S5 G900F for Europe (first world), with snapdragon 801 which was 50 euros more expensive than the one with exynos G900H (Galaxy S5 also has 2 chipsets, just like Note 4), not even the smallest lag. Yesterday he installed the official android 5.0 and it was so smooth and responsive. So I don't think that lag in Note 4 exists, maybe I'm wrong.
I bought in Slovenia version N910F, was using it for 7 days but I was really dissapointed with battery life of Snapdragon model, so I returned it and changed for N910C Exynos model.
I do it purposely because of two reasons:
Battery life and Exynos is 64bit SoC, thus it is not enabled yet, probably will be enabled in near future.
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My friend has galaxy S5 G900F for Europe (first world), with snapdragon 801 which was 50 euros more expensive than the one with exynos G900H (Galaxy S5 also has 2 chipsets, just like Note 4), not even the smallest lag. Yesterday he installed the official android 5.0 and it was so smooth and responsive. So I don't think that lag in Note 4 exists, maybe I'm wrong.
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Don't even bother with this argument, there are people who believe the Snapdragon lags, leave them, not all of us have the same experience, its a pointless argument.
My goodness. The only real difference is baseband... If using Qualcomm baseband, there is financial incentive to purchase the whole SOC.
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I don't know why the OP thinks Samsung would vary the build quality by SoC, its all down to what country and networks they are shipping to, the setup the networks have, frequencies available in that country etc etc....
Some countries get both Snapdragon and Exynos, like here in SA, we got both variants from the GS4, Note 3, GS5 and now Note 4. I had a Exynos S4 and a mate had a Snapdragon S4, I couldn't even tell the difference until I went to About Device and saw that he had a I9505, build quality, UI speed, Display etc...Felt no different to my Exynos S4, same with Note 3, played with an Exynos in-store then a mate got the Snapdragon from our network, again I felt no difference, its the very reason why I stopped being fussy about what SoC variant I get.
So OP, if you want Exynos then get it, its build quality is the same as the Snapdragon, unless you are unlucky and get one from a bad batch.
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I don't know why the OP thinks Samsung would vary the build quality by SoC, its all down to what country and networks they are shipping to, the setup the networks have, frequencies available in that country etc etc....
Some countries get both Snapdragon and Exynos, like here in SA, we got both variants from the GS4, Note 3, GS5 and now Note 4. I had a Exynos S4 and a mate had a Snapdragon S4, I couldn't even tell the difference until I went to About Device and saw that he had a I9505, build quality, UI speed, Display etc...Felt no different to my Exynos S4, same with Note 3, played with an Exynos in-store then a mate got the Snapdragon from our network, again I felt no difference, its the very reason why I stopped being fussy about what SoC variant I get.
So OP, if you want Exynos then get it, its build quality is the same as the Snapdragon, unless you are unlucky and get one from a bad batch.
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I don't know man. I opened this thread for opinions. I am also not talking about huge differences in quality, but today I went to a shop and took a look at a Note 4 N910H (Asia Pacific) and I wasn't very happy about the screen. Its white turned cyan with very small rotations of the phone. Its glass was also a bit edgy at one corner (very little though, not visible if you don't check for it). I can only compare it to my friend's S5 G900F (Europe), which's display doesn't have the color issue. I also know that not every Note 4 has these ''problems''. It may just be just a coincidence though.
It is more about gsm. Specifically the available bands in your country. Thus why some countries get more than one variant.
As far as build quality, I would say the Korean ones are probably better binned overall, but not necessarily true. You would probably get a better screen if made in Korea. Other variables are involved. Seems the note4 snapdragon soc is shipping with mostly higher binned SOC's compared to previous phones with older snapdragons. I am not sure how well the exynos is binned as far as soc. Not many people updated their bin #'s in that thread.
So I've been browsing around XDA and I have concluded that the best version of the s10 is the snapdragon variant, but I also want an unlocked boot loader and dual sim so I'm considering this one that is a Chinese version:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item3405ba151d:m:m-IqwLrG6T3v2zoeCJ4lo0A
It is a SM-G9700
But because it is Chinese I'm not sure if it has google on it (and I don't want to go out of my way to install it) but it also might be a Hong Kong model with google? any information on this would be appreciated, thank you!
Many people here who got it from that seller, confirmed that it has Google services preinstalled. Carrier aggregation may not work however as someone said on US T-mobile at least. The phone also lacks band 66 and band 71 both LTE bands, 71 being more important as T-mobile expands coverage.
honestly, unless youre some kind of heavy/advanced user, I doubt youd see SO much difference in everyday usage that makes all this hassle worth it.
I'd just buy whatever is available locally for an average user.
evo85210 said:
honestly, unless youre some kind of heavy/advanced user, I doubt youd see SO much difference in everyday usage that makes all this hassle worth it.
I'd just buy whatever is available locally for an average user.
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Also if he plays heavy games and emulators, that's where he may prefer to choose the Snapdragon variant (Talking from my own experience, not coming back to a non snapdragon/adreno device never again).
Not to mention that the Snapdragon bootloader is unlocked in China ironically. And further if you need dual-sim functionality your choices are that one or the 97xF/DS. Which unless he lives in Mexico or Central America is not available locally.
I've made my decision it's going to be the 9700 series but there is some questions I have around the dual-sim functionality and how that may vary between models.
I'm just wondering how many of you are considering this phone instead of the ROG 2. I'm considering it because I believe it will have complete USA LTE band support and better development. If the North American version of Rog 2 comes out first I would definitely consider it as well but I feel ASUS doesn't release their phones for months after they announce it...such as the Zenfone 6. There is also the Red Magic 3S but it's only available in Asia.
Basically I'm considering any phone with the Snapdragon 855+
Rog Phone 2 should be widely available by next week if I'm mistaken and the international models have more bands than the China tencent models. I guess Asus was not prepared for the ZenFone 6 demand. OnePlus will have way more development. Red Magic 3 software was trash, Rog phone > rm3s pretty much every way.
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I'm just wondering how many of you are considering this phone instead of the ROG 2. I'm considering it because I believe it will have complete USA LTE band support and better development. If the North American version of Rog 2 comes out first I would definitely consider it as well but I feel ASUS doesn't release their phones for months after they announce it...such as the Zenfone 6. There is also the Red Magic 3S but it's only available in Asia.
Basically I'm considering any phone with the Snapdragon 855+
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I considered both but ultimately the curved screen, significantly worse battery life, and higher price tag drove me away from OnePlus.
Other options in the US for reasonably priced flagships are the Axon 10 pro and pixel 3A (if you haven't tried one of these you really should, it's shockingly good, much better than the proper pixel 3).
The oneplus pro 7t may not come to USA, but Verizon has apparently signed a contract to allow the oneplus pro 7t McLaren edition prob Jan 2020. This will be my backup in case Verizon wants to be an a hole with Asus.
FYI....note pre order looks kinda strange?
OnePlus 10 Pro global launch officially scheduled, US pre-orders live right now
The highly anticipated global launch of the OnePlus 10 Pro is finally right around the corner, and the company is teasing some kind of a surprise.
www.phonearena.com
Considering the US versions had the physical second SIM slot removed in the 9's. I wonder if OnePlus is going to continue that with the 10's. JerryRig's video of the Chinese version breaking easily during his bend test really doesn't inspire me to want to pre-order it, even with only a dollar down.
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Considering the US versions had the physical second SIM slot removed in the 9's. I wonder if OnePlus is going to continue that with the 10's. JerryRig's video of the Chinese version breaking easily during his bend test really doesn't inspire me to want to pre-order it, even with only a dollar down.
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Good question about dual SIM. I bought a dual SIM tray for my 9 Pro but never managed to get it fully working. It'd be nice if the 10 Pro at least has a way to enable it.
No 12G/256G variant in the US for now. I'll pass!
Reading reviews it seems worse than the 9 Pro in alot of ways and better in a couple. I don't think it's worth getting it especially with Oxygen being basically Color OS now.
All of the cameras are the same as the 9 Pro with the exception of the ultra-wide. For the US market, it's a downgrade in terms of RAM with only the 8GB/256GB version being released currently. I doubt we will see any bend tests on it until close to the Easter launch date in the US. OnePlus is definitely pulling a Samsung here, in my opinion. New model, same old hardware from the previous device for the most part. US models will more than likely not be possible to convert to dual-SIM just like with the 9/9 Pro's. The b/s marketing speak about not being able to deliver 80W fast charging in US models is purely a crock!
Personally, to get me to buy a new device from OnePlus. I want 16GB/512GB variant T-Mobile US model that is possible to convert to dual-SIM. Why? I need to domestically roam on to the US Cellular network as a T-Mobile customer and only devices purchased directly from T-Mobile are permitted to roam on US Cellular (US Cellular roaming requirement). I also carry a Canadian SIM that roams in the US and I don't like carrying two phones. All of the cameras need to be significantly improved and no more stupid holes in the screen. A larger 6.8" screen or maybe even a 6.9" would be something I would hope to eventually see. They have pretty much been using the same screens since the 7 Pro's for the Pro devices. The SnapDragon Gen 1 throttles due to excessive heat on almost all devices using it.