Hi,
the current firefox for android seems to be quite nice in regard to add-ons and UI, but sadly the font often looks a little bit ugly and blurry when compared to Chrome/Opera or basically any other App on my Fire. Are there any tweaks to address this problem?
rainer_hohn said:
Hi,
the current firefox for android seems to be quite nice in regard to add-ons and UI, but sadly the font often looks a little bit ugly and blurry when compared to Chrome/Opera or basically any other App on my Fire. Are there any tweaks to address this problem?
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I can't explain why you'd be seeing this only in Firefox but not other apps. But in my experience, this just isn't a very good display. Anything with fine detail (like text) looks blurry to me. Plus the pixels are not sized evenly.
yeah, it's a little bit weird, if you compare only a single screenshot there isn't that much difference at first, but if you look closely, the font rendering in FF just isn't as clean, for example this little gray areas below the a and the e are really disturbing and add up to a much less clean picture
Chrome on top, FF below:
i.imgur.com/5cX2DzL.png
(sorry, I'm not allowed to post pictures/links yet)
I don't use FF but one thing you can try is to switch to a dpi of 213. The howto is mentioned in other threads.
obsidience said:
I don't use FF but one thing you can try is to switch to a dpi of 213. The howto is mentioned in other threads.
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Changing DPI won't alter screen characteristics, especially w.r.t. 'blurry' images, but you may like the effect better.
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I don't use FF but one thing you can try is to switch to a dpi of 213. The howto is mentioned in other threads.
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thx, I've installed UI Tuner and played around with it a little bit. There is an interesting option "per app settings", but it doesn't seem to work for me. Changing the dpi system wide does work and the font looks a little bit nicer, but the overall experience isn't that great IMHO as it just looks like a blown up smartphone with the phone UI and a pretty large font that still looks worse than in other browsers - I guess I'll stick with Opera, it isn't that bad after all (sometimes it takes a little bit too long to start on the fire, but I like the UI better than Chromes and it syncs with my Opera-Account)
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Lately I've noticed that my Milestone has some problems with displaying colors.
I have attached the screenshot of my home, where you can see terrible transitions between similar hues.
lso, there is wallpaper file attached, which seems to be okay to me.
Is it common with those screens or it's just my Milestone?
my milestone does the same :/ could it be that it does not have 16 million colors?
24 bit images on a 16 bit display will cause the banding you see.
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fivefour said:
24 bit images on a 16 bit display will cause the banding you see.
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i find it weird that no reviews mentions this or even the specifications sheet, :/ the desire has an 24 bit display?
That's what I thought, pretty much.
Still, it being not mentioned is strange, as it seems to be fairly serious issue. Unless it's possible to convert images with no quality loss visible on the screen.
The proper term is dither, in cyanogen you can enable surface dithering in cyanogen mod settings > performance which should improve image quality at the cost of performance. Not sure about other roms.
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im curious to know about the display used in the droid 2 and droid x, the htc desire, are they using a 24 bit display now?
The Droid/Milestone does have a 24-bit display: http://www.displaymate.com/Motorola_Droid_ShootOut.htm
In fact, the Droid 2 uses the same LCD.
That gradient problem with your image is probably caused by several problems:
1. The picture is not a true 24-bit image.
2. Google's Gallery is limited to 16-bit!
The Milestone/Droid has one of the finest LCDs on the market, and if it had not been so expensive when it was first released in Canada ($600!), I would have bought it in a heartbeat, despite the locked bootloader.
EDIT: I've just examined the photo on my 24-bit Aquos, and it looks perfectly smooth, so the problem is being caused by Android 2.1. FroYo's Gallery is also limited to 16-bit.
So what gallery could I use to put wallpapers on?
Flikie does pretty much the same, as it uses Froyo gallery.
Well, it seems that application named Wallpaper Set and Save (find it in market, it's free) is the easy way out.
This app lets you set the 24-bit wallpaper keeping the desired quality, more or less.
Though, it may make Launcher Pro FC a couple of times right after setting the new wallpaper, then it works flawlessly.
applebook said:
The Droid/Milestone does have a 24-bit display: http://www.displaymate.com/Motorola_Droid_ShootOut.htm
In fact, the Droid 2 uses the same LCD.
That gradient problem with your image is probably caused by several problems:
1. The picture is not a true 24-bit image.
2. Google's Gallery is limited to 16-bit!
The Milestone/Droid has one of the finest LCDs on the market, and if it had not been so expensive when it was first released in Canada ($600!), I would have bought it in a heartbeat, despite the locked bootloader.
EDIT: I've just examined the photo on my 24-bit Aquos, and it looks perfectly smooth, so the problem is being caused by Android 2.1. FroYo's Gallery is also limited to 16-bit.
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if the 16 bit problem is androids fault how could google not fix this in 2.2? so thats why a lot of of phones use a different gallery than the stock, im surprised this isnt mentioned more often
This link should be a sticky http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362605,00.asp
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Well, it seems that application named Wallpaper Set and Save (find it in market, it's free) is the easy way out.
This app lets you set the 24-bit wallpaper keeping the desired quality, more or less.
Though, it may make Launcher Pro FC a couple of times right after setting the new wallpaper, then it works flawlessly.
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i searched for it and it says it only works in 1.x not in 2.x but it works... weird
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if the 16 bit problem is androids fault how could google not fix this in 2.2? so thats why a lot of of phones use a different gallery than the stock, im surprised this isnt mentioned more often
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Yeah, I agree. Apparently, Samsung's Galaxy S Gallery is a bit better. Not truly 24-bit, but the Galaxy S adds improved dithering. The Galaxy S, with all of the hype about SAMOLED, is not even a real 24-bit display You Milestone/Droid/Droid 2 folks have the best Android screen, IMO.
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This link should be a sticky http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362605,00.asp
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True.
Google is not eager to tell you the answer if you don't exactly know what you are looking for. And for non-technical people it may be hard to guess.
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im curious to know about the display used in the droid 2 and droid x, the htc desire, are they using a 24 bit display now?
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i dont know what the droid screen was like but i got a milestone 2(droid 2) yesterday and the screen looks awful on it, nothing but dull colours, i just made a post about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10401973#post10401973
Editing the build.prop file to change the LCD Density from 163 to 250, to match the Samsung Galaxy Tab, makes the Nook color icons and graphics seem very cartoonish and blurry.
I'm wondering, do the images on the Samsung Galaxy Tab look blurry and unsharp also at it's default of 250 LCDD? If not, does it use a different set of images at a different resolution or something?
Is there any way of improving the appearance of icons and graphics on the Nook Color at LCD Density of 250 so it doesn't look so blurred and un-sharp???
Does anyone have a suggested LCD Density that gets as close to 250 without things looking un-sharp and dull?
Thanks
I don’t like anything above 190.
Doesn't the galaxy tab use 240?
The graphics that don't look very good are raster so they wont scale to a larger size without looking worse. Don't know of anything that you can do.
Galaxy Tab can use whatever Samsung wants for their default hike of their "native", aka physical pixel density which is somewhere between 168 and 170 dpi. Their approach might include enhanced (for 240 dpi) rendering of icons and probably enhanced rendering of fonts. Both are dependent on how good the device's Open GL ES 2.0 works, especially how much hardware assitance in rendering is involved.
Our hardware might be not involved at all, especially being pre-A2.2 (or I'd rather say, pre-Android 2.3).
As NookColor stands today (even with Nookie Froyo), I can't recommend doing any DPI hikes (like to 180, or to 200, or even to 240 dpi) as unsupported at the present level of Open GL implementation. Some tweaks around 168...170 may prove more productive in gaining better readability though, see it in my blog fineoils.blogspot.com: a recent post, and throughout.
I hiked mine to 170 and didn't like the loss of sharpness. I don't know how people tolerate anything over 180.
I'm at 204... works well
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Also using 204, and it looks great. To each their own, I guess . . .
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180 looks great to me. higher than that starts cutting off ui elements here and there. higher than 200, though, starts looking a bit wonky and the status bar turns into a cluttered mess.
180 here.. perfect and tack sharp for me
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I played around with my density levels after reading a post from a prominent participant here in the Nook section of XDA.
When the idea of the adjusting pixel definition first came we were all lowering our densities for sharper screens on our phones.
To raise it on the Nook to come close to the Galaxy Tab seemed counter intuitive and the amount of apps made for tabs size at the time was poor at best and still is. Yet so much is determined by software and hardware. So after fiddling with my density I settled with stock 160. I need that sharpness. My Samsung Vibrant's screen is so good. Picking up my phone after my tab was disapointing.
As a photographer I stare and gauge sharpness all day long, so I am probably guilty of over thinking it.
As stated previously, software limitations currently apply so maybe in the future going up in desity will yield great results. I think we have only begun to what this screen can do.
Given all that I surmise its a matter of taste and one more tool in our tool box as things evolve, and they are evolving fast and fun.
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hi. i just got this on the nook color.
it seems stretched out... like everything is too wide stretched.
Mine looks pretty good, maybe a bit stretched but nothing too considerable
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I have it and it looks just fine
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thanks for the replies guys.
it's not so much the actual gameplay but the main menus when you have to swipe. they should be perfectly circular like on my iphone but they are a little squashed looking
i even enabled fullscreen.
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thanks for the replies guys.
it's not so much the actual gameplay but the main menus when you have to swipe. they should be perfectly circular like on my iphone but they are a little squashed looking
i even enabled fullscreen.
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The menus look oval (stretched) on my EVO4G as well. But when it gets to the game play, everything looks proportional.
It's probably just a bug from porting the game to Android.
You can get Chainfire3D and play the HD version of the game...
looks good on mine.
Hello, I own N7 3G version and I have very annoying problem. My eyes hurt when I read texts. They look little bit blurry and the white is too saturated. I noticed that the greens and yellows are very pale compared to my LG OPTIMUS Black that uses LCD too..Is it me or my device has bad display?
Try screen filter?
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Try screen filter?
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I used to use screen filter, but I ended up shelling out for Lux Auto Brightness. It's just so much easier to use. I thought Screen Filter was a hassle and it needs to be disabled in order to sideload apps because it won't allow you to click the install button if it's enabled.
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I used to use screen filter, but I ended up shelling out for Lux Auto Brightness. It's just so much easier to use. I thought Screen Filter was a hassle and it needs to be disabled in order to sideload apps because it won't allow you to click the install button if it's enabled.
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Lux does that too, but it's smart enough to disable itself for that short time you're installing.
If the text you are talking about are web pages, you might consider getting the (stock Android) Browser.apk out of a AOKP build that matches your ROM base (4.1 vs. 4.2) and installing that in addition to Chrome (if for instance you are using a near-stock ROM).
The one thing that was an immediate disappointment to me for the N7 right out of the box was with the Chrome browser's lack of text reflow when zooming.
The Stock Android browser does text reflow nicely, so there's less eyestrain looking at larger text. Nicer bookmarks than Chrome IMO, too.
It does seem a little more prone to crashing than Chrome - but I use it anytime I want to read web pages where zoom+reflow makes the reading easier.
cheers
kopchev said:
Hello, I own N7 3G version and I have very annoying problem. My eyes hurt when I read texts. They look little bit blurry and the white is too saturated. I noticed that the greens and yellows are very pale compared to my LG OPTIMUS Black that uses LCD too..Is it me or my device has bad display?
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Silly question but have you thought about going to the optician? Maybe you have bad eyes and need corrective glasses.
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I'm short-sighted - that means I see close objects fine opposed to distant objects. I'm corrected with glasses Anyway. I don't have such issues with ipads, xoom despite the bad PPI of the latter. The color reproduction is wrong with nexus, especially the black fonts on white background - they look too grayish and blurred and kinda blend with the oversaturated white background. Interestingly reds and blues look fine on white background; the same is valid also for the white texts on black background. Not to mention the device has very weak greens and yellows even compared to many mediocre LCDs. No ASUS again
kopchev said:
Hello, I own N7 3G version and I have very annoying problem. My eyes hurt when I read texts. They look little bit blurry and the white is too saturated. I noticed that the greens and yellows are very pale compared to my LG OPTIMUS Black that uses LCD too..Is it me or my device has bad display?
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To answer your question. I've used my N7 heavily....hours and hours every day, for all kinds of tasks, and have never experienced what you describe. Each person is different, it sounds to me maybe you're sensitive to something on the device that few others are...maybe its the high PPI? Go try an iPad Mini
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I think it is the scrolling, wat makes my eyes hurt. The tekst is building up in a way that I have to focus again and again. The xda app is a example of it.
I get big eye strain using the N7, especially at night !! But only one white pages. This aint just the tab though, I get it from my computer screen also.
Is it normal to be getting eye ache and headaches from whites onscreen?
I ended up getting a browser (Maxthon) with nightmode for my tab, but doesn't help for the PC.
Any ideas how to cause less strain to myself? My brightness is low etc.
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I get big eye strain using the N7, especially at night !! But only one white pages. This aint just the tab though, I get it from my computer screen also.
Is it normal to be getting eye ache and headaches from whites onscreen?
I ended up getting a browser (Maxthon) with nightmode for my tab, but doesn't help for the PC.
Any ideas how to cause less strain to myself? My brightness is low etc.
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for your computer download and install F.lux - at night your eyes will thank you. it takes ~15-30 minutes for your eyes to get adjusted to the color shift. If you really want to see the difference it makes after using it for 2-3 hours at night, disable it and see the results for yourself.
Anyone know a good flux alternative for android? I would assume if they have a jailbroken app for ios they should have had a android .apk.
Just got my Nexus 6 and it's really nice, but the icons on the Google Now Launcher aren't that sharp, especially when compared to the Nexus 5. These are all Google apps and they're slightly fuzzy, especially noticeable on the edges, easier to see when looking a little closer to the display. Is anyone else seeing this? Could it be an issue with the display? Text and images look okay inside an app, it's mainly an issue with icons on the homescreen.
Also, the display seems really over saturated, I know it's AMOLED but I didn't expect the colours to be so saturated.
Coming from the G3 they don't look as sharp. Could be the Now launcher
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Just got my Nexus 6 and it's really nice, but the icons on the Google Now Launcher aren't that sharp, especially when compared to the Nexus 5. These are all Google apps and they're slightly fuzzy, especially noticeable on the edges, easier to see when looking a little closer to the display. Is anyone else seeing this? Could it be an issue with the display? Text and images look okay inside an app, it's mainly an issue with icons on the homescreen.
Also, the display seems really over saturated, I know it's AMOLED but I didn't expect the colours to be so saturated.
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its not the nexus 6 displays fault. its the fault of the developers who made those icons, for not using higher resolution images. the n6 screen is of a higher resolution, with lower resolution icons on the screen, that are larger in size than on the n5. what do you expect? of course they will look worse. the icons won't magically apear in higher resolution.
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its not the nexus 6 displays fault. its the fault of the developers who made those icons, for not using higher resolution images. the n6 screen is of a higher resolution, with lower resolution icons on the screen, that are larger in size than on the n5. what do you expect? of course they will look worse. the icons won't magically apear in higher resolution.
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I'm talking about any apps, including the Google apps. Guess that's Google's fault for not using higher resolution icons for the N6 then?
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Coming from the G3 they don't look as sharp. Could be the Now launcher
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Thanks for the reply, glad to know I'm not going insane. Just tried out Nova launcher and the icons look a lot sharper than they do with the Google Now Launcher. So it's software and not hardware, hoping a future update will correct the issue.
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I'm talking about any apps, including the Google apps. Guess that's Google's fault for not using higher resolution icons for the N6 then?
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yup, even google apps unfortunately.
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lee.jarratt said:
Thanks for the reply, glad to know I'm not going insane. Just tried out Nova launcher and the icons look a lot sharper than they do with the Google Now Launcher. So it's software and not hardware, hoping a future update will correct the issue.
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use any launcher, itll be the same. its not a n6 issue, its an issue with the resolution and size of the icons. you want them to look better? get root access and change the dpi of the screen. itll make the icons smaller, and they will look better.
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use any launcher, itll be the same. its not a n6 issue, its an issue with the resolution and size of the icons. you want them to look better? get root access and change the dpi of the screen. itll make the icons smaller, and they will look better.
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Or use Nova Launcher (and probably Apex has it too) and change the icon size to be a bit smaller. That will stretch them less so they look sharper. You can go as much as +/- 20% in Nova.