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Quadrant froyo 1800!

Credit to birdman for this
Open system/build.prop with text editor
Go down to media.stagefright and turn them all from false to true
Save file then reboot phone
Saw a 400 point increase from stock froyo
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Did u see any real increases in the phone or just placebo effect? I'm still stunned why only the snapdragon phones are seeing the biggest increase when they have the weakest CPU/gpu combination
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My quadrant score went from 1200 stock eclair to 1400 stock froyo then 1800 after the build.prop edit
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I don't understand how to do this were do I find this, what app do I use to open this?

I hit just over 2200 with this hack. Pics to follow...
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sorry to burst all of your bubbles, the stage fright "hack" changes the way android decodes h264 audio. When the phone is set to false, it takes twice as long to decode the audio if not more. You will actually see quadrant hang on that step.
With it set to true, it decodes faster, but so you know; PANDORA, SIRIUS, and other streaming apps will not function correctly when set to true. Go ahead and try it.
So it is a placebo effect, the score changes based off one decoding process. The higher scores have nothing to do with any other system performance. I think its a flaw in the way quadrant ranks processes for a score....

Nick, using root explorer go to /system and find build.prop copy it to your sd card and use word pad on your computer to change all 4 lines about stage fright from false to true. Save it, then over write the one in /system with the modified file. Done.
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I figured it out with astro but I'm on 2.2 not rooted so I'm assuming I can't do this. Plus I don't want to mess up my audio. Is there a way I can use universal androot to root my 2.2 and then use setcpu?

I know 4700 isn't real, but is that also 4.7ghz? Is that how it works? What exactly is a quadrant score, sorry for the stupid questions.

bad4u6669 said:
sorry to burst all of your bubbles, the stage fright "hack" changes the way android decodes h264 audio. When the phone is set to false, it takes twice as long to decode the audio if not more. You will actually see quadrant hang on that step.
With it set to true, it decodes faster, but so you know; PANDORA, SIRIUS, and other streaming apps will not function correctly when set to true. Go ahead and try it.
So it is a placebo effect, the score changes based off one decoding process. The higher scores have nothing to do with any other system performance. I think its a flaw in the way quadrant ranks processes for a score....
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How will music apps not function correctly? I've been running Pandora for the last hour with no issues.
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bad4u6669 said:
sorry to burst all of your bubbles, the stage fright "hack" changes the way android decodes h264 audio. When the phone is set to false, it takes twice as long to decode the audio if not more. You will actually see quadrant hang on that step.
With it set to true, it decodes faster, but so you know; PANDORA, SIRIUS, and other streaming apps will not function correctly when set to true. Go ahead and try it.
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Although my experience thus far doesn't support your claim(e.g. Pandora works flawlessly for me), I am interested in your claims. Do you have any links that you can post so that I can read up on the mater? thanks!
BTW, the quadrants on my X went from a mean of 1400 to 1850 following this text edit. thanks to sp1kez for passing it along

davisbs999 said:
Although my experience thus far doesn't support your claim(e.g. Pandora works flawlessly for me), I am interested in your claims. Do you have any links that you can post so that I can read up on the mater? thanks!
BTW, the quadrants on my X went from a mean of 1400 to 1850 following this text edit. thanks to sp1kez for passing it along
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I would like that info as well.
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Knew you guys would ask
Should of posted these in the first place.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/bugless/56243-does-bb-0-4-have-problem-sirius-8.html
10 page thread about first leak of froyo, when the changed value to true, it broke sirius, took us a while to figure out. Page 8 I posted the link to the proposed fix. IE change to false
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/bugless/56243-does-bb-0-4-have-problem-sirius-8.html
original post about the fix.
Cant find the thread about us talking about quadrant and the fix.... its burried in here... http://www.droidforums.net/forum/bugless/
I might look for it more later.
its not a lot to read.
It would be nice if we can run a value of true on our X without issue. It was not the case on both the D1 and the INC

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Knew you guys would ask
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Thanks, good info. I haven't had any steaming issues so far, but if/when I will know the cause.
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Ok, I tried this little trick. But I did other stuff to.
Feeling gutsy I removed (well renamed to .bak),
Amazon
Backup Asst
Blockbuster
BlurAlarm
BlurCalendar
BlurEmail
BlurHome
Calculator
CityID
Clock Widget
Cmas
Verizon Nav Bloat crap
DLNA
FileManager
FMRadio
FriendFeed
HelpCenter
LiveWallpapers
LiveWallpaperPicker
MagicSmokeWallpapers
Mynet
MyVerizon
ANY AND ALL WIDGETs
Quick Office
Amazon MP3
Skype
Social ANYTHING
Swype
YouTube
I renamed all of those guys, rebooted like 5 times as each time the phone seemed quicker. Cleaned all cache, I have a black wallpaper, Launcher Pro config'd with 1 screen.
Went from 1330 to 2170
Did this to my wifes phone but she lost market and web access, Dont know what I turned back on to make it work. Weird thing, I have Zoom, she does not. I never delete system files, I just rename them.
What else can I do to speed this phone up?.

found it... page 4
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/bu...yet-poor-streaming-audio-quality-2-2-a-4.html
obviously the inverse would be true...

bad4u6669 said:
found it... page 4
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/bu...yet-poor-streaming-audio-quality-2-2-a-4.html
obviously the inverse would be true...
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Removed mine, hope you're happy. . Too many issues with video playbacks
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Just as bad4u said it does cause problems. I scored in the 2100s consistently by changing stagefright=true. However, none of the videos on my phone would play correctly. Whether it was video taken from the camera or videos that I had put on the sdcard. I ended up reverting back to stagefright=false which fixed the issue.

IS there any real-world performance gain from applying the TRUE value?
if there is performance gain, it would be possible to develop a Stagefright Toggle widget that changes it from false to true, so you can switch whnever you want to play audio/video or when you dont

Didn't have any video playback issues streaming or off sdcard.

Best app for connection test.

What is the best app(preferred free) that test how fast your
Wifi/3g connection is?
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speedtest.net app from the market

nickm50 said:
speedtest.net app from the market
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I second that. I've used the speedtest.net website on PCs for years and the app works great too.

briandroid said:
I second that. I've used the speedtest.net website on PCs for years and the app works great too.
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+1 same here

will check that out was woundering same thing O.O

mengbo said:
+1 same here
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Speedtest.net app here, as well.
Not to hijack the thread, but what is everyone's average up/down speeds on Edge and 3G?

mlhope said:
Speedtest.net app here, as well.
Not to hijack the thread, but what is everyone's average up/down speeds on Edge and 3G?
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On 3g, average of 4mbps download and 2.5mbps upload. Never test edge because I never feel the need to switch bands.
On wifi, I go between 18 and 23mbps down and 15 to 18mbps up.

I'll throw another one in here. FCC test from the market. It's the one I use.

A word of caution
Reg: Data Usage
App: Speed Test
Avg data usage per test: ~6MB
Audience: For people with "limited" data on.
I was puzzled to see I had close to 150 MB data consumed last noon. I was sure I wasn't downloading anything at that and all I was doing was trying out modems. Today morning I realized I was using the SpeedTest app to test the modem at that time. So I made a couple of tests using the app, using the 3G watchdog app to keep tab on data. It kinda shocked me to notice that this app was using ~6MB per test! That explains my data usage y'day. I had done more than 20 tests, to say the least, in less than an hour y'day. And then many more tests during the day and even late into night.
So now u r all warned if u r on limited plan. As for me, I am on the 2GB plan, and well, these speed tests cost me close to 300MB in just one day, y'day.

diablo009 said:
A word of caution
Reg: Data Usage
App: Speed Test
Avg data usage per test: ~6MB
Audience: For people with "limited" data on.
I was puzzled to see I had close to 150 MB data consumed last noon. I was sure I wasn't downloading anything at that and all I was doing was trying out modems. Today morning I realized I was using the SpeedTest app to test the modem at that time. So I made a couple of tests using the app, using the 3G watchdog app to keep tab on data. It kinda shocked me to notice that this app was using ~6MB per test! That explains my data usage y'day. I had done more than 20 tests, to say the least, in less than an hour y'day. And then many more tests during the day and even late into night.
So now u r all warned if u r on limited plan. As for me, I am on the 2GB plan, and well, these speed tests cost me close to 300MB in just one day, y'day.
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Thanks for the info. But its all good cause I don't do a lot testing
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vunuts said:
On 3g, average of 4mbps download and 2.5mbps upload. Never test edge because I never feel the need to switch bands.
On wifi, I go between 18 and 23mbps down and 15 to 18mbps up.
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Hey how did you get up to 18 mbps? The scale only goes up to 10... and I only get about 2mbps.....
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The scale changes with respect to the speed. Mine went up to 15+mbps at school.
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Can anyone tell me why mine is really slow? Wifi and 3g both are really bad compared to what y'all have..
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It's case by case. The speed is related to your phone +ROM+ modem + environment. That's one of the reasons why there are so many (ROM, modem, kernel) combinations out there. We all look forward to the release of AT&T's Froyo source such that developers can come up with an universal solution for all.
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FCC test its an app from market completely free and simple

captivate1 said:
FCC test its an app from market completely free and simple
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Glad I read down to the bottom cause I was gonna post that one too.

bluemoon1221 said:
Hey how did you get up to 18 mbps? The scale only goes up to 10... and I only get about 2mbps.....
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Using the speedtest.net app, the max speed that can be reached (stable) is around 10mbps, but it flickers up to around 13mbps (unstable). And using the FCC app, it runs the exact same test as speedtest, but it has a a higher max speed and it allows me to get an accurate result.

FCC test seems to provide more stable results on my Captivate.
Speedtest.net halts while testing the upload speed under several different ROM/modem/kernel combinations.

So I've been using Fcc test.. should you set the server to the nearest location? Is that the best?
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Yea, gives you better results since you're transferring data from point A to point B and back, instead of going from point A to point J and back.

Performance Bottleneck

Has anyone ever managed to push the Exynos Dual processor and Mali 400 in the Note to its limits with any application or game other than a benchmarking app? Have you seen the chipset struggling anywhere so as to make us consider going to something with the Exynos Quad?
Its just a doubt of mine as, so far I havent seen or tried any app which makes the dual core struggle anywhere.

try cooltool to check cpu frequency, it might not be a performance of phone issue, but game coding issue
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baz77 said:
try cooltool to check cpu frequency, it might not be a performance of phone issue, but game coding issue
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I guess you read my question wrong. I dont have any performance issues whatsoever. What I meant to ask was if anyone has managed to truly push the Dual core Exynos to its limits with any application or game excluding benchmarking tools. i.e, is there any application or game out there at present that can make our year old hardware struggle?
I asked this because I have a Galaxy S3 and a Galaxy Note and I prefer the Galaxy Note due to its screen size compared to the S3 and I dont have any present intentions to get the Note 2 as I've already put money on the S3 this year. Moreover my Note is just 3months old which makes it pointless for me to upgrade so soon.
I was planning to give one of these phones to my dad who is not a "power user". He would just use the phone for calls, texts, VOIP and browsing. So it doesnt matter to him whichever phone it is.
The only disappointment for me with the galaxy Note is the "clipping" which seems to appear in videos and shadows every now and then. Otherwise its perfect.

yep I understood wrong, I havent found such a game
supposedly, a benchmarktool should do that, but even then if I dont set min max on highest frequency it doesnt stay that way.
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baz77 said:
yep I understood wrong, I havent found such a game
supposedly, a benchmarktool should do that, but even then if I dont set min max on highest frequency it doesnt stay that way.
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Load some Hi graphic intensive games bud... NOVA 3, Batman (the dark night rises) and etc.... while playing, run some VOIP apps, emails and etc... While running those simultaneously, make a graphic intensive presentation and load it on your phone (thru Polaris).
Then switch back from the games your playing, to the apps you've open in the background...
See if you will be getting this after.
1. Extreme lags.
2. Force Close on some open apps.
These are some of the things I can think of in checking for Performance bottlenecks... If your phone passes this with flying colors... then GOOD. If not, so there's your answer on the Dual-Core chipsets limitation

Apply livewallpaper, & fill all your homescreen with online widgets then install facebook.. i dunno i saw my phone before clocking at 800mhz to 1400mhz non-stop with that setup & hell its hot whenever i switch wifi on lol
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satishp said:
I guess you read my question wrong. I dont have any performance issues whatsoever. What I meant to ask was if anyone has managed to truly push the Dual core Exynos to its limits with any application or game excluding benchmarking tools. i.e, is there any application or game out there at present that can make our year old hardware struggle?
I asked this because I have a Galaxy S3 and a Galaxy Note and I prefer the Galaxy Note due to its screen size compared to the S3 and I dont have any present intentions to get the Note 2 as I've already put money on the S3 this year. Moreover my Note is just 3months old which makes it pointless for me to upgrade so soon.
I was planning to give one of these phones to my dad who is not a "power user". He would just use the phone for calls, texts, VOIP and browsing. So it doesnt matter to him whichever phone it is.
The only disappointment for me with the galaxy Note is the "clipping" which seems to appear in videos and shadows every now and then. Otherwise its perfect.
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Dude I know what you mean. Right now I think there is nothing out there to fully use the duke core to it's fullest potential. Only the ram is the main issue for me on my note. I just traded my s3 for a TMobile note. Dumb? Maybe but I like the bigger screen and stylus. I just wish it had more ram. The s3 over all is alot smoother in everything. IM still getting the note 2 when it's available.
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After using the s3 the note seems Kathy as ****.
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whats does the saying Kathy as ***** mean?
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I actually ment, after using the have the note seems slower in everything.
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After using the s3. That's what I ment. Sorry, the auto spell. X)
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satishp said:
Has anyone ever managed to push the Exynos Dual processor and Mali 400 in the Note to its limits with any application or game other than a benchmarking app? Have you seen the chipset struggling anywhere so as to make us consider going to something with the Exynos Quad?
Its just a doubt of mine as, so far I havent seen or tried any app which makes the dual core struggle anywhere.
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I have noticed that backgrounds of games tends to scroll in a choppy fashion.
For example, try
Garfield's Defense: Attack of the Food Invaders
And just run to the right and watch the background - you'll see it doesn't scroll smoothly at all.
Same thing happens for most HD games that have scrolling backgrounds - broken sword, seven stars 3d, etc.
gameplay itself seems mostly fine, but the choppy backgrounds are really distracting.
Every now and then the Note tends to start lagging, especially when syncing.
Try syncing facebook contacts via haxsync and the note will be grinding while that's going on.
- Frank

[Q] AT&T Note 3 Iffy Framerates/Benchmarks?

Hi all so let me start by saying ive always enjoyed this site and its users and help. unfortunately what brings me here is that Im having issues with some fluidity of this device based on what ive seen from other videos regarding games and their benchmarks. Ok so heres a few examples of titles im speaking of. Dead Trigger 1&2, Modern Combat 4, all of the Grand Theft Auto games. Even DraStic DS Emulator which ive seen running perfectly on a user posted Note 3. My wifes iPhone 5c runs these games literally perfect, my Note 3 struggles here and there. So that led me to running almost every benchmark i could think of and to my concern again all of my scores are coming up a hair shorter than other users. And gameplay isnt just quite as smooth as other user videos. I almost have no other issues with the device and im constantly taking care of its memory and cache. Even factory rest a few times. Its nothing more than normal Android hiccup that ive been used to. But with Project Butter and these other videos I just need to know if theres an issue with my device or did I get screwed buying the Note 3. Has anyone else noticed this? Either via gaming or web scrolling or the notorious Youtube Streaming smoothness issue. Please any help is greatly appreciated. Ive even taken the liberty of posting every screen cap of benchmarks that i took. You dont have to look at all the photos but im thorough so i gave you all of them.

I don't know what is wrong with your device but something doesn't seem right. You Antutu seems way low compared to mine and even the stock phone. Do you have any power saving apps running or something?
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duhbanjopicker said:
I don't know what is wrong with your device but something doesn't seem right. You Antutu seems way low compared to mine and even the stock phone. Do you have any power saving apps running or something?
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See thats what I dont understand its a factory reset. Heres my other concern with your screenie, yours is even higher than alot of scores Ive seen. So I cant quite get a figure on what the norm is for this device. Especially since there are so many versions with two different chipsets too boot. What I dont get is if these scores are the norm then why. Since as much as I hate iOS i have to give it credit where its due: ITS ABSOLUTELY SMOOTHER THAN A DEVICE WITH MORE PHYSICAL RAW POWER? My gripes arent even major the hiccups are only every now and then but for the most part I have a hard time seeing any other YouTube Note 3's that display the behavior. And its not even that its bad or doesnt work, i just got concerned with the hiccups.

I'm running a custom ROM. But yours is even lower than the stock mark?? Weird
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Should really try and root and install safe strap and run a custom rom see if it help. Power saving mode on maybe?

duhbanjopicker said:
I'm running a custom ROM. But yours is even lower than the stock mark?? Weird
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I thought about trying the same idea of flashing it and Ive done many other devices. Buts thats not why I bought the device, I dont wanna brick it or just flat out tamper with it, and it seems hit or miss from person to person or at least what Ive seen. Reviews say it hiccups but videos Ive watched on youtube dont really do it or i cant quite notice it over the occasoinal stutter that youtube itself presents lol. Any ideas? Even the Exynos Bench's are alost identical to our SnapDragons save for one or two tests. i dont get it im confused lol.

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Should really try and root and install safe strap and run a custom rom see if it help. Power saving mode on maybe?
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No power save. And theres no AT&T Stock Binary yet. Im not messing with that OneClick lol. Any other ideas?

Id be just as satisfied if everyone can say their device runs all these games with out one single hiccup. Ever. Lol. I know Android games arent as optimized as ios but Im just trying to understand why or how to fix it or if some poeple have also experinced it. And like i said youtube stutters on its own on my laptop and Note 3 so its been hard to use that as a reference.Ive been able to use it to compare my ps3 games framerates but the quality of vidoes out there are crap since most are being recorded unprofeesionally. The other half is just as a i said hard to tell from youtube.

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*bump* I hate doing it, just looking for more input. Thanks.

I know you said you dont have "power save" on...but this sounds stuiped but I had this problem before...Even though your button says power save is off Have you clicked to the left of the button and bring this menu up and make sure its not on Auto on is enabled?

yeh auto save was enabled on mine.cool I took it off.Didn't even know that menu existed.lol

Ok so this was after turning every option I could think of. My question still remains that I don't understand why others are still getting higher results. Also these numbers have had no effect on gaming it still hiccups in most hardware intensive applications just slightly more than an iPhone 5c I just don't get it.

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have you ran the test after a reboot. i noticed on mine it was about 33500 but then when i redid the test after a reboot it did 36000

billaboy25 said:
have you ran the test after a reboot. i noticed on mine it was about 33500 but then when i redid the test after a reboot it did 36000
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Well I've been keeping it eye on it more and i've gotten as high as 33,000 or whatever it was in that screenie but it's not consistent it'll drop back down in the 27'000 area. Plus like I said my main concern is I can't get this phone to play games as well as my wife's iPhone does. I mean this is a quad core right. Last I checked no iPhone should beat this on pen and paper right? And it's not unplayable and most wouldn't care but I just wanted to know if this hiccup here and there is acceptable as normal?

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I'm getting around 34k too on benchmark,but I'm playing some games and it runs nice hmm

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I'm getting around 34k too on benchmark,but I'm playing some games and it runs nice hmm
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I contacted AT&T and they're sending me a replacement. Well see what happens then. But you guys never see a hiccup in your gaming. Never the slightest framerate dip? And i should clarify that when im comparing it to the iPhone the framerates there stay consistent. My device plays great but here and there it hiccups. That's actually what I'm really referring to. And if so how is that possible comparing it to s device of lesser power? I mean I don't make this stuff up I keep noticing that almost every game I play runs just that much better on my wife's iPhone 5c than a Note 3...

My Note 3 youtube app connection speeds are better than my other droids & PC; reason?

My Note 3 youtube app connection speeds are better than my other droids & PC; reason?
I have NEVER been able to stream HQ content from youtube consistently without running into constant buffering. Last time I checked even all computers I used buffer so bad its a waste of time to even try; so I placed the issue solely on YouTube shaping traffic. When i got my Note 3 I had noticed how high quality the youTube vids looked and I wa slike 'oh crap, I need to turn off the HD cause this is gonna just be 24/7 buffering', then I thought 'give it a second because you have already been watching a few vids with no buffering'. Needless to say I have not turn off the HD and I have not had any buffering issues.
My question is: what happened? Did YouTube magically upgrade their servers since I bought my Note 3 the other week/since I tried to use YouTube HD last? Is my Note three somehow better at managing internet traffic and has a better wifi? Is Google/youtube starting to give priority to android devices? Whats going on that I can now get streaming HD with no interruptions from youtube?
Thanks for the help!

If your using your data on your note 3 when you go on YouTube that's probably why. The speed on these phones is amazingly fast. I know cause I have issues on my computer watching YouTube videos. I have fios at home 50mb download and 50mb upload and I still get rebuffering issues. who would have ever thought my phone's data was going to be faster than my home isp.
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lildoggs said:
If your using your data on your note 3 when you go on YouTube that's probably why. The speed on these phones is amazingly fast. I know cause I have issues on my computer watching YouTube videos. I have fios at home 50mb download and 50mb upload and I still get rebuffering issues. who would have ever thought my phone's data was going to be faster than my home isp.
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Nope. Thanks though. Now I wonder if it could be the modem I had them repalce that didnt seem to have any issues? That or Youtube upgraded cause I can get it on all devices now. Hell im streaming 2 1080p signals from youtube at a time. thats a huge improvement over one not doing it without buffering.
Sorry to post here on this when its not android related.