Just noticed that my phone's screen looks a bit warmer when compared to another Moto G 2014. Is there a way to make it more "neutral"?
josfr4ncisco said:
Just noticed that my phone's screen looks a bit warmer when compared to another Moto G 2014. Is there a way to make it more "neutral"?
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Are you using cm13? If so, there's an option to change this in Settings./Display.
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Are you using cm13? If so, there's an option to change this in Settings./Display.
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Everything is at 100% already...
probably new phone revision
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Everything is at 100% already...
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Hm.
Not really sure what to say about that then. Is it really a big deal for you? I have LiveDisplay on my phone set up to automatically adjust color temperature. It's usually a cooler blue during the day and a warmer red at night. It hasn't really been an issue for me.
Yeah you have one of the bad screen batches, but there is also an advantage, D2W is easier to implement on your screen model than the other one, downside is, its yellow, put the turned off display in bright sunlight, see the grid? You have a "second gen" screen batch, you can adjust it if you install a custom kernel and use kernel aduitor there is an option to adjust RBG "amounts" (usually depends on the kernel) CM has that integrated.
sky0165 said:
probably new phone revision
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Yep, as mentioned, a second batch of screens.
Ragarianok said:
Hm.
Not really sure what to say about that then. Is it really a big deal for you? I have LiveDisplay on my phone set up to automatically adjust color temperature. It's usually a cooler blue during the day and a warmer red at night. It hasn't really been an issue for me.
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That auto mode never worked for me, tbh. It would only start to change as night fell, never did any change during the day.
And well, it isn't a big deal, but isn't white as it should have been.
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Yeah you have one of the bad screen batches, but there is also an advantage, D2W is easier to implement on your screen model than the other one, downside is, its yellow, put the turned off display in bright sunlight, see the grid? You have a "second gen" screen batch, you can adjust it if you install a custom kernel and use kernel aduitor there is an option to adjust RBG "amounts" (usually depends on the kernel) CM has that integrated.
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Always thought those grid things were Gorilla Glass-related! Good to know that! I'm on latest CM12.1 snapshot, can you suggest a kernel with working dt2w and color control?
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There is an app called Display Tester which shows if your display is calibrated well. It shows you colors with many different shades of those colors. Basically, when the colors switch nicely and smoothly and each shade has its own visible box it means your screen is well calibrated. There's also gamma stuff which is important.
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damn some lines are still present on banding test
That's what I'm saying. We got a long way to go. Also a lot of the blocks are indistinguishable meaning some values are off. By lines you mean those dark horizontal lines right? I have them too
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That's what I'm saying. We got a long way to go. Also a lot of the blocks are indistinguishable meaning some values are off. By lines you mean those dark horizontal lines right? I have them too
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Same here, you can fix the colours but not gamma yet.
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and the last visible box on "black saturation box" test was #2
I don't care about that, as long as it looks good to me
Michealtbh said:
I don't care about that, as long as it looks good to me
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Me too, the problem arises when we have to develop and test (i.e. apps or web) on a 'miscalibrated' display. Apart from that it's all good.
Thank you all you guys, for your effort and discoveries. Although we don't have a definitive solution yet, just knowing it make things coherent.
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Might do a test later and see if there's any difference on stock jwr 4.3 kernel compared to 4.2.2
I will use a custom 4.3 kernel with gamma control with 4.2.2 values to compare with.
So can you guys tell me what methods of altering color settings there are besides the old [0-255]Red,Green,Blue. And amp0 amp1. This is all I have using trickstermod and Matr1x 4.3 kernel. Are there currently any other WORKING methods to alter colors? I heard something about faux and gamma.:cyclops:
well theres some calibration kernel released.theres also faux clock and franco app which lets you calibrate the display.but some people said that calibrating will do damage to screen and posibbly burn the screen.
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I don't care about that, as long as it looks good to me
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This.
Yep just up the colour intensity a little but not so far that skin tones look like radiation burns (folks do get carried away) and you are good to go.
Thats the app i used to find my optimal settings. Modified ceejays (i think its in the spreadsheet/francos app - i increased contrast to "2" from "0" to get gamma 2.2) settings to get 2.2 gamma on RBG and very minimal (hardly visible) banding. Infact, the banding is not worse that stock settings. Colors look absolutly fantastic compared to dull/washed out 1.6 (?) gamma stock settings.
i'm f**king colorblind, so it doesn't matter to me what you "regular" people see...my colors are awesome
Just curious if anyone is working on a custom kernel. Battery life on the stock kernel seems not so great.
I personally would like to see a kernel aimed toward 1. better battery 2. customization and 3. performance.
Thanks in advance
Customization would be great, but I can't see how we could get even more battery life than we're already getting. It feels like moto has already squeezed the blood out of the turnip with this little battery.
Think the battery is quite good on 4.4.4. Not so good on lollipop
Wish I knew more of doing this lol. The screen is way too warm for my tastes. A custom kernel which at least has RGB customization would be amazing for this phone!
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Wish I knew more of doing this lol. The screen is way too warm for my tastes. A custom kernel which at least has RGB customization would be amazing for this phone!
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Did you have a Samsung before? This is my first non-sammy device in four years. I LOVE it but the screen colors are warm as you say. I am use to over saturation from hell.
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Did you have a Samsung before? This is my first non-sammy device in four years. I LOVE it but the screen colors are warm as you say. I am use to over saturation from hell.
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I haven't had a Samsung since the S II lol. I'm more of a colder screen person such ala Apple devices (I know... lol). I mean this isn't bad bad; just a touch bluer and I'd be super happy. I'm using a screen adjuster app right now but I'd prefer to do some low level tweaking at the kernel level over a screen tinter app. But alas, I don't know too much about building kernels! It doesn't even appear as if Motorola has pushed out the kernel source for Lollipop yet.
I'm coming from the N6 (returned within my 14 days...usability just wasn't there for me, way too big to be practical as a phone) which I had just flashed a custom kernel and was able to tweak the RGB just to my liking so I'm hurting a bit here!!! LOL
I have tried everything. Stock, Franco and Lean Kernel, UVing by 25 as well as 50mhz, have greenified everything I can that I don't need. But I just can't seem to get more than 2 hours of SOT out of this phone.
i'm not really the kind of person prepared to shut everything(bluetooth, data, location etc) off to save battery. I bought a smartphone so I want it to be smart.
Some screenshots: first two are on leankernel, the last one is from an attempt today with franco right after I finished charging it up(phone barely held a day)
where do you keep yoyr brightness at?
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where do you keep yoyr brightness at?
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It's at 50%, adaptive brightness on
ratboy90 said:
It's at 50%, adaptive brightness on
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turn off adaptive brightness, and lower your brightness to 20% or lower. i keep mine at about 15%, and see about 5.5h sot. for every 20% i raise my brightness, i get 1h sot less.
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turn off adaptive brightness, and lower your brightness to 20% or lower. i keep mine at about 15%, and see about 5.5h sot. for every 20% i raise my brughtness, i get 1h sot less.
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You get 5.5 hours SOT for every 20%? How is that?
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You get 5.5 hours SOT for every 20%? How is that?
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no no no. i get 5.5h sot total. for every 20% i raise my brightness, i lose one hour sot.
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no no no. i get 5.5h sot total. for every 20% i raise my brightness, i lose one hour sot.
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That's why google did a bad job to deliver apps with a light material design on devices with an amoled screen.
Good apps does not have grey fonts on a white background. Or have options to change those colors.
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turn off adaptive brightness, and lower your brightness to 20% or lower. i keep mine at about 15%, and see about 5.5h sot. for every 20% i raise my brightness, i get 1h sot less.
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I'll try that but isn't that just horrible battery life?
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I'll try that but isn't that just horrible battery life?
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5.5 hours of actual screen-on-time isn't horrible. I usually get around 4h but I don't care about stuff like turning down brightness or disabling bluetooth. My N6 easily lasts through the whole day - sometimes 1.5 days (with only light use, though). And if the battery (for whatever reason) gets close to zero Moto provided us with a gift called turbo charger...
It looks to me like you have pretty bad signal with the 69% with no signal. Your phone will keep searching for a network which is going to destroy your battery. Since you have WiFi constantly connected try turning of mobile data and see if that helps.
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I'll try that but isn't that just horrible battery life?
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no. 5.5 hours of screen on time is normally considered very good.
Don't you guys swap in the Team Blackout inverted apps? It adds about 30-40% more screen on time on AMOLED screens. It won't help in areas like settings etc if you are stock based but they have all of the Google apps, Spotify, Netflix, etc inverted and transparent. It always gave me great screen on time on my AMOLED devices. When people asked about my numbers, that was my first suggestion.
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Don't you guys swap in the Team Blackout inverted apps? It adds about 30-40% more screen on time on AMOLED screens. It won't help in areas like settings etc if you are stock based but they have all of the Google apps, Spotify, Netflix, etc inverted and transparent. It always gave me great screen on time on my AMOLED devices. When people asked about my numbers, that was my first suggestion.
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i use layers, which is a new light weight open source theme engine. no cm involved! it was started by sony, then some devs here with a n6, took over. i use the pich black or out space layers. pich black themes the rom black, and also themes the gapps black, as well as the google launcher
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Don't you guys swap in the Team Blackout inverted apps? It adds about 30-40% more screen on time on AMOLED screens. It won't help in areas like settings etc if you are stock based but they have all of the Google apps, Spotify, Netflix, etc inverted and transparent. It always gave me great screen on time on my AMOLED devices. When people asked about my numbers, that was my first suggestion.
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No inverted apps for Nexus 6.
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No inverted apps for Nexus 6.
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there are, you just have to look in the right place. like the tbo site or app
try googling team black out
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there are, you just have to look in the right place. like the tbo site or app
try googling team black out
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Already done that. The apps found were for KitKat, not updated yet for Lollipop.
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Already done that. The apps found were for KitKat, not updated yet for Lollipop.
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sorry.. i meant try googling team black out updater
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sorry.. i meant try googling team black out updater
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You are going to have to tell me more about this theme you are using...does it work with the stock ROM or what are you running? Just a few days left until I am on board...
Edit...because it sounds like you have a setup exactly like how I will want mine.
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Already done that. The apps found were for KitKat, not updated yet for Lollipop.
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Yeah the Lollipop apps are in 2 areas...in "recent" and the dedicated "Lollipop" areas
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You are going to have to tell me more about this theme you are using...does it work with the stock ROM or what are you running? Just a few days left until I am on board...
Edit...because it sounds like you have a setup exactly like how I will want mine.
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i dont know if it works with stock to be honest, but im using terminus rom. here is the link to the layers manager app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lovejoy777.rroandlayersmanager tou can download layers themes here on xda, in the play store, and on g+
I noticed on my phone that it is set at the medium resolution settings instead of the highest one. I read in the preliminary reveiws that going to the highest will burn more battery and make things smaller. I am a 50 year old man that should use glasses but doesnt. Now that people have had the phone for a while what settings are people using for their resolutions and does it make the text smaller. I dont seem to notice but i cant check anymore as i returned it for a verizon model and will be waiting. It is a question i could never find a answer and this is the last place i could figure to look.
The highest resolution does not change the text size. If you look very, very carefully, you may notice a slight difference in sharpness compared to medium resolution, but it is, in my opinion, negligible. Take also into account that med res is also more battery friendly and you may reach the same conclusion as I, that med res is the way to go.
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I noticed on my phone that it is set at the medium resolution settings instead of the highest one. I read in the preliminary reveiws that going to the highest will burn more battery and make things smaller. I am a 50 year old man that should use glasses but doesnt. Now that people have had the phone for a while what settings are people using for their resolutions and does it make the text smaller. I dont seem to notice but i cant check anymore as i returned it for a verizon model and will be waiting. It is a question i could never find a answer and this is the last place i could figure to look.
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I keep mine at FHD+ (2220x1080), simply for the battery trade off. WQHD+ (2690x1440) uses a lot more power and not a lot of content is native in that resolution, and it does make things smaller. The only instance I could imagine there being a significant advantage of the latter resolution would be when one was using the Gear VR. When a display is that close to your eyes and viewed through the lenses of the headset, you'd want a higher resolution to avoid being able to see individual pixels.
As a near 50 year old man myself I recommend setting it to the medium setting, keeps battery happy and the old 4 eyes.
The battery difference in the middle and Max is minut. Here is mine at Max all day brightness at 80.
So put it on the Max if you want don't worry about the battery. Like I said I tested both resolutions and its not that big of a difference at all. We buy these phones for there great display use it.
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The battery difference in the middle and Max is minut. Here is mine at Max all day brightness at 80.
So put it on the Max if you want don't worry about the battery. Like I said I tested both resolutions and its not that big of a difference at all. We buy these phones for there great display use it.
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Thank you for that - I may switch as well, the difference really seems negligible.
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The battery difference in the middle and Max is minut. Here is mine at Max all day brightness at 80.
So put it on the Max if you want don't worry about the battery. Like I said I tested both resolutions and its not that big of a difference at all. We buy these phones for there great display use it.
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Yes this!!! I just got 24 hours on full res with 25% battery left, so no big hit on battery. Makes it look crisper and sharper when I have my cheaters on .
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I had to jump to the lowest resolution due to extreme battery drainage!
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I had to jump to the lowest resolution due to extreme battery drainage!
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Something is wrong with your setup then...
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Something is wrong with your setup then...
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Any ideas what?
I tested out the highest setting when I first got it but found it to be negligible in difference. Based on that and the fact that I knew it would just burn down the battery, I switched back to medium.
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I tested out the highest setting when I first got it but found it to be negligible in difference. Based on that and the fact that I knew it would just burn down the battery, I switched back to medium.
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I got over 6 1/2 hours of SOT yesterday with it on Max.
don't see the point in max setting for general use. Its only of use for VR. Should auto detect VR and whack it up too but it doesn't.
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Good question. Battery life on my Note8 is very good. Today, with a SoT of 4h, 45 min of which was Waze, the phone was at 49%.
But - I don't use push notifications, no Whatsapp and I am vrey careful about which apps can send notifications at all.
BTW - screen on Auto, resolution at medium.
If you are doing all that, I would consider a factory reset...
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don't see the point in max setting for general use. Its only of use for VR. Should auto detect VR and whack it up too but it doesn't.
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So you don't see the point for having better resolution on your screen? If that's the case just get a 720p phone.
I said for general use...
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I got over 6 1/2 hours of SOT yesterday with it on Max.
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I got close to 7.5 on medium. It's just not necessary for what I do. If I'm going to use VR then I'll switch to it, but I don't so there's no need for me.
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I got close to 7.5 on medium. It's just not necessary for what I do. If I'm going to use VR then I'll switch to it, but I don't so there's no need for me.
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I put mine on medium and got maybe a extra 15mins.
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Exactly I want my screen to look the best it can every second I am on it. Not just for videos or movies or games. But different strokes for different fokes
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I put mine on medium and got maybe a extra 15mins.
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Nice
So just messing around with my 4 XL today, I have the Smooth Display enabled, and honestly just don't see a big difference between my 3 XL, as far as scrolling websites, or moving up down in Contacts or Google Feed panel.
But I then went to Developer Options, and enabled the Force 90hz option, and tried going through those same things again, and then I noticed it, everything did actually feel smoother and bit faster. But that's supposed to be a huge battery drain leaving that on.
My question, is Smooth Display not really working or allowing websites to be shown in 90hz?
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So just messing around with my 4 XL today, I have the Smooth Display enabled, and honestly just don't see a big difference between my 3 XL, as far as scrolling websites, or moving up down in Contacts or Google Feed panel.
But I then went to Developer Options, and enabled the Force 90hz option, and tried going through those same things again, and then I noticed it, everything did actually feel smoother and bit faster. But that's supposed to be a huge battery drain leaving that on.
My question, is Smooth Display not really working or allowing websites to be shown in 90hz?
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A better question would be, were those apps stuttery to begin with? If they weren't, then the 90hz is working properly, IMO. It will only kick in when it is really needed. I think that's what they were trying to accomplish with it. But from what I have heard, the latency caused from going from one app that uses 90hz back to 60 and vice versa, can be a little choppy at times. Probably why they gave us the option to enable all the time. Just in case their initial smooth display offering isn't so smooth. I'm sure it will get better over time.
Brownlee and a couple others have stated the smooth display is buggy and will sometimes get stuck at 60.
Are people just gonna force 90hz in Developer Options for now, until a monthly security update fixes Smooth Display? Or is that a major battery hit?
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Are people just gonna force 90hz in Developer Options for now, until a monthly security update fixes Smooth Display? Or is that a major battery hit?
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How would anyone be able to answer this today?
You know, you could just try it out and see the battery impact for yourself.
Brownlee said he had done just that and the word he used for the battery life after was "obliterate" which is a long way from good or even ok as a descriptor. He did say he was going to keep it that way so it wasn't a deal breaker in his use. Would have been nice if he quantified that with some actual numbers but it's all I've seen so far. The tech has been in their portfolio for quite some time, my hope is they just need to tune it up somewhat.
Man I'm not forcing 90hz. I seriously notice a big difference without it. No need for me.
Yeah he said obliterate but he uses his phone with max brightness all the time and using tons of social media. Everyones usage style is different. So got to take those reviewers with a grain of salt and see how your usage is.
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Yeah he said obliterate but he uses his phone with max brightness all the time and using tons of social media. Everyones usage style is different. So got to take those reviewers with a grain of salt and see how your usage is.
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Exactly, this is why I said I wished he would have quantified it, if I knew what he got and how he got it I can make something of it. As is there is little that can be gleaned from it other than it is most def worse. In fact that review was fairly rushed in feel which puts him in good company, there was clearly a lot of people that wanted to get the review out the door quick and I saw many factual errors, omissions, judgments made with little perspective, etc. I understand it's part of the game but it doesn't help us on our end.
I saw a reddit post which stated there is a bug where if the screen brightness is below 75%, 90hz is disabled....
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...s_it_look_like_smooth_display_is_turning_off/
Nice find!
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I saw a reddit post which stated there is a bug where if the screen brightness is below 75%, 90hz is disabled....
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...s_it_look_like_smooth_display_is_turning_off/
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Interesting. Nice find.
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I saw a reddit post which stated there is a bug where if the screen brightness is below 75%, 90hz is disabled....
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...s_it_look_like_smooth_display_is_turning_off/
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Well 90htz is a complete waste of time and cost, if brightness has to be over 75%.
My phone's always around 60% screen brightness.
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"Waste of time and cost," because the dynamic doesn't work properly? FFS. If it makes you feel any better, OP didn't even attempt a switch, it's just forced all the time by default. Which, in affect is what you need to do to make this work. Is that a perfect solution, ofc not and I have no doubt that google will fix it. But FFS, quit sh*tting on Google. Either, you bought the device and are now feeling buyers regret, or you're just a troll. Either case, both scenarios will pass...
I would think Google will fix this 90hz bug needing brightness to be above 75%. I expect the next few monthly security updates to have a lot of bug fixes.
It's not like Pixel phones only ones that launch with IS issues, new iPhone's have been known to launch with buggy iOS versions, takes a month or so for them to be ironed out by Apple.
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"Waste of time and cost," because the dynamic doesn't work properly? FFS. If it makes you feel any better, OP didn't even attempt a switch, it's just forced all the time by default. Which, in affect is what you need to do to make this work. Is that a perfect solution, ofc not and I have no doubt that google will fix it. But FFS, quit sh*tting on Google. Either, you bought the device and are now feeling buyers regret, or you're just a troll. Either case, both scenarios will pass...
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Zerokool76..
Irony.... I wasn't ****ting on Google. Get a sense of humour..
My point was simple... If 90htz only works when your screen brightness is above 75%, then it's pretty useless....
And yes I know Google will release a patch to rectify, just like they did with the pixel 2 and the muted colours....
The real irony is another year, another pixel launch and another screen problem !!! Again software just like pixel 2..
Oh and let's not forget the patch that dropped screen brightness to prevent screen burn on pixel 2...
Of course Google will issue a patch..
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Zerokool76..
Irony.... I wasn't ****ting on Google. Get a sense of humour..
My point was simple... If 90htz only works when your screen brightness is above 75%, then it's pretty useless....
And yes I know Google will release a patch to rectify, just like they did with the pixel 2 and the muted colours....
The real irony is another year, another pixel launch and another screen problem !!! Again software just like pixel 2..
Oh and let's not forget the patch that dropped screen brightness to prevent screen burn on pixel 2...
Of course Google will issue a patch..
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While I agree about the screen issues, I refer you to what I had said about OP. Their devices are forced 90hz constantly. So, in affect, at this point, that is our only option to make 90hz work at higher brightnesses. Which makes it exactly like a OP device. So, it's technically not a waste of money if you can't use it above 75%, because you can. You have to force it, but it works. That's all I'm saying
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While I agree about the screen issues, I refer you to what I had said about OP. Their devices are forced 90hz constantly. So, in affect, at this point, that is our only option to make 90hz work at higher brightnesses. Which makes it exactly like a OP device. So, it's technically not a waste of money if you can't use it above 75%, because you can. You have to force it, but it works. That's all I'm saying
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You're on fire ?lol
I get what your saying.
It's just a fail that you have to go into developer settings...as for 90htz, I doubt if id have noticed it working or not being honest !!
I personally think whilst the pixel 4 is an upgrade over my 2xl, I personally don't think it's a big enough update and some updates imho are a waste of time..
Face unlock.. the finger print sensor worked brilliantly and was in exactly the correct position on the phone.
Soli. Time will tell whether it's a gimic.
Camera..
When the 2 came out, Google were shouting from the roof tops about the highest ever dxmark for the camera.
The p4 camera has improved no doubt, but it's no longer king..
Personally, I'd have kept the finger print scanner. It's a very strong biometric and it worked brilliantly.
A bigger battery. What are Google thinking ?
Bigger MP camera sensor... What could Google do with the latest 48mp sensors and their computer Voodoo witchcraft
An unbreakable screen like the motorola force phones... These phones are getting increasingly expensive..
The 2 tone coloured back.. bring it back. The p4 back is now just like every other phone manufacturers now.
2 steps forward and one back with the p4 I think it's a fair comment
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