do custom recoveries cause malfunctions? - Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I read about what problems rooting on stock kernel may cause
but I wanted to know if I'll face any of that if I only flashed a custom recovery like TWRP without rooting my phone just to be able to flash some mods..

I believe any custom binary will trip Knox

manishvy said:
I believe any custom binary will trip Knox
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I actually don't care about knox that much as my phone has no warranty and I have no credit card and samsung pay is useless in my country
I'm only concerned about deep sleep and random reboots

Ahmed Hesham said:
I actually don't care about knox that much as my phone has no warranty and I have no credit card and samsung pay is useless in my country
I'm only concerned about deep sleep and random reboots
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As soon as you trip Knox..you will face deep sleep issue.. You can flash deep sleep fix after that.

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can i use cm 10.1.3 on knox i9305

hi all can i use cm 10.1.3 on my i9305 with knox bootloader
danmanbad said:
hi all can i use cm 10.1.3 on my i9305 with knox bootloader
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No. You have to disable or remove Knox and when you root you trigger knox counter to1 and your warrenty is gone.
Smedslund said:
No. You have to disable or remove Knox and when you root you trigger knox counter to1 and your warrenty is gone.
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thats isnt what i aked. in know i have already tripped the counter i should refraze my question
can i run a version of andriod that is lower than 4.3 on the knox bootloader
Some help please im lost
danmanbad said:
Some help please im lost
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haven't tried it yet but you should be able to flash it without a problem...flash a custom recovery and start flashing it...
knox is triggered so what could go wrong now? i flashed OMNI ROM(is 4.4.2) without a problem..
when you will flash the rom, it will format /system(where knox is) and all crap knox apps will be removed...
hello,
don't wan't to start another thread, I think my question -more or less- matches the subject, I tried to read everything related to knox but found no exact answer:
what partitions have to stay intact to keep knox flag intact?
- recovery - voids warranty
- kernel - voids warranty
- what about /system partition? let's say root via saferoot and use some parts of modded stock roms (I mean replace them via adb)
is there a possibility to have something like custom temporary recovery like it was possible for galaxy s advance: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987313 (ie, you enter stock recovery and flash a .zip that contains cwm that runs instantly and disappears upon reboot) - I know, totally different device, but still worth asking...

should I root?

hey. should I root my phone now or wait until there's a way to root without tripping knox? I'm just worried that if something ever happened to my phone while knox is tripped, I won't be able to get it replaced. Does it even matter if Knox is tripped when getting a phone replaced? I also have the jump insurance thing if that matters.
What I was going to do with my personal note 4 was play with it for 24 hours and get a feel for the stock firmware and then decide.
That was working until I went to a long dinner with friends. There was some wine. I was rooted and running firekat before I got home thanks to a friends lappy.
I woke up the next day and the phone was sooooo much better.
Just do it. You won't regret it.
As to your other questions.
I work at a cell phone repair store. We just flash clients note 4s back to the stock firmware with odin when people want to do an exchange with tmobile or Samsung.
You pay for insurance so you don't have to worry about such things.
Karakoram2 said:
What I was going to do with my personal note 4 was play with it for 24 hours and get a feel for the stock firmware and then decide.
That was working until I went to a long dinner with friends. There was some wine. I was rooted and running firekat before I got home thanks to a friends lappy.
I woke up the next day and the phone was sooooo much better.
Just do it. You won't regret it.
As to your other questions.
I work at a cell phone repair store. We just flash clients note 4s back to the stock firmware with odin when people want to do an exchange with tmobile or Samsung.
You pay for insurance so you don't have to worry about such things.
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yeah.. I'm already tired of touchwiz. Had a galaxy s3 before this with slimkat.
Wait.. Even if there comes a way to root without tripping Knox, wouldn't Knox have to be tripped anyways when flashing a custom ROM or recovery besides stock firmware?
ayeitschris said:
yeah.. I'm already tired of touchwiz. Had a galaxy s3 before this with slimkat.
Wait.. Even if there comes a way to root without tripping Knox, wouldn't Knox have to be tripped anyways when flashing a custom ROM or recovery besides stock firmware?
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People aren't optimistic about a way to root without tripping Knox.
Just do it. On most of the roms you can't even tell Knox is tripped. I'm currently using private mode, the fingerprint scanner, and it says se android enforcing on firekat v6 on the phone I'm writing with.
Karakoram2 said:
People aren't optimistic about a way to root without tripping Knox.
Just do it. On most of the roms you can't even tell Knox is tripped. I'm currently using private mode, the fingerprint scanner, and it says se android enforcing on firekat v6 on the phone I'm writing with.
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Follow up: it is indeed when cf autoroot flashes a temporary recovery to gain root access that Knox is tripped.
5.0.1

N920I battery drain issue

Hello, i have a Note 5 N920I on android 6.0.1 which i rooted a while ago. after unrooting the device, the battery started draining fast, i have tried to re-flash stock firmware, factory reset and cache wiping but nothing worked. I have read in multiple threads that re-rooting with cf autoroot might fix the problem,that being caused by tripping Knox. anyone with the same issues and tried this solution ?
deadman_676 said:
Hello, i have a Note 5 N920I on android 6.0.1 which i rooted a while ago. after unrooting the device, the battery started draining fast, i have tried to re-flash stock firmware, factory reset and cache wiping but nothing worked. I have read in multiple threads that re-rooting with cf autoroot might fix the problem,that being caused by tripping Knox. anyone with the same issues and tried this solution ?
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1)Once you have rooted your device you will trip knox counter 0×1 which voids warrant and breaks Samsung's security features
2)So even after flashing stock rom and unrooting you will face huge battery drain due to knox tripping and also deep sleep issue which cause battery drain
3)So the solution for this is to root again your device and apply dr.ketan's deep sleep fix..You can refer this in following link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/how-to-root-note-5-t3205073/page15
**This fix is to be applied on Stock rooted 6.0.1 with stock kernel**
I have an unrooted (Knox=0) stock device with horrible battery life. Should I root and use this fix or just wait out for the N update? I am a fan of Sammy pay
DroidHackeR said:
1)Once you have rooted your device you will trip knox counter 0×1 which voids warrant and breaks Samsung's security features
2)So even after flashing stock rom and unrooting you will face huge battery drain due to knox tripping and also deep sleep issue which cause battery drain
3)So the solution for this is to root again your device and apply dr.ketan's deep sleep fix..You can refer this in following link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/how-to-root-note-5-t3205073/page15
**This fix is to be applied on Stock rooted 6.0.1 with stock kernel**
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I have re-rooted with cf autoroot yesterday without applying the fix and everything is back to normal. i checked with Dr Ketan's tool and it said DeepSleep was fixed! thanks !
cartertucker said:
I have an unrooted (Knox=0) stock device with horrible battery life. Should I root and use this fix or just wait out for the N update? I am a fan of Sammy pay
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If i were you i would check for other sources of the problem first before rooting if you want to keep samsung pay. check what's draining the battery most, also try entering safe mode and see if you have the same power drain. Try factory resetting if you had the problem after an update.

How do you disable Knox?

G'day XDA Developers.
I would love to root my Samsung Galaxy S10 then install a custom recovery (TWRP) then flash a custom rom (LinageOS) how ever I trip Knox when ever I attempt to do these things. So I was wondering how do you go about disabling Knox?
After some Googeling I found this site https://www.progeeksblog.com/how-to-disable-samsung-knox/ How ever these methods require you to first root your phone but rooting triggers Knox.
So I am at a loss here I am running stock android rom until I figure out how to bypass Knox.
OzGreatAndTerrible said:
G'day XDA Developers.
I would love to root my Samsung Galaxy S10 then install a custom recovery (TWRP) then flash a custom rom (LinageOS) how ever I trip Knox when ever I attempt to do these things. So I was wondering how do you go about disabling Knox?
After some Googeling I found this site https://www.progeeksblog.com/how-to-disable-samsung-knox/ How ever these methods require you to first root your phone but rooting triggers Knox.
So I am at a loss here I am running stock android rom until I figure out how to bypass Knox.
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you cant completely block knox...
unlocking bl and flashing modified firmeare wil trip knox.. u cant reset knox flag either
Update: You can disable Knox by using Multidisabler: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ynos/g97xf-multi-disabler-encryption-t3919714
OzGreatAndTerrible said:
Update: You can disable Knox by using Multidisabler: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ynos/g97xf-multi-disabler-encryption-t3919714
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thats always been around lolol.. but regardless ur post was more about not tripping knox which ur knox is in fact tripped so "disabling" knox doesnt change anything really.. also, that zip doesnt really disable knox.. it disables verification, defex, force encryption etc.
Actually it says that it disables vault keeper which is supposed to replace Knox but any way yea your right my post was more about flashing anything trips knox so how are you supposed to get around that.
OzGreatAndTerrible said:
Actually it says that it disables vault keeper which is supposed to replace Knox but any way yea your right my post was more about flashing anything trips knox so how are you supposed to get around that.
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vaultkeeper is not to replace knox.. samsung bases all their security on knox.. vaultkeeper is in addition to knox..
there is no way around tripping knox.. the knox warranty bit is a physical fuse that gets blown when bl is unlocked and u flash a custom firmware and there is no way to reset it..
magiskhide can sometimes "fake" it but with safetynet improving if ur device is set to use hardware then there wont be any way around that either in the long run
elliwigy said:
vaultkeeper is not to replace knox.. samsung bases all their security on knox.. vaultkeeper is in addition to knox..
there is no way around tripping knox.. the knox warranty bit is a physical fuse that gets blown when bl is unlocked and u flash a custom firmware and there is no way to reset it..
magiskhide can sometimes "fake" it but with safetynet improving if ur device is set to use hardware then there wont be any way around that either in the long run
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If your not worried about warranties or anything then tripping Knox doesn't matter?
ryanallaire said:
If your not worried about warranties or anything then tripping Knox doesn't matter?
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it will likely cause most samsung apps not to work unless theres any tricks that still work also
ryanallaire said:
If your not worried about warranties or anything then tripping Knox doesn't matter?
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I don't care about voiding warranty. What happens when I try and flash anything custom on the device Knox gets tripped and the phone refuses to boot. Thats what I am talking about trying to bypass.
I have Galaxy Tab Active3, which is locked to organization and it seems to have Knox enabled.
I want to Factory reset it so I can use it for private use.
I cannot get it into download mode, but I can get it in recovery mode. However, the Wipe data/factory reset option seems to be disabled.
Dialing *#0*# and *#*#88#*# from emergency dialer do not work either.
Any advice how to remove the Knox protection and factory reset the device, so I can set it up from scratch and remove the organization lock?
checho_85 said:
I have Galaxy Tab Active3, which is locked to organization and it seems to have Knox enabled.
I want to Factory reset it so I can use it for private use.
I cannot get it into download mode, but I can get it in recovery mode. However, the Wipe data/factory reset option seems to be disabled.
Dialing *#0*# and *#*#88#*# from emergency dialer do not work either.
Any advice how to remove the Knox protection and factory reset the device, so I can set it up from scratch and remove the organization lock?
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I would be interested in, too.

Question Is it worth rooting?

So I will lose warranty in June, and require my phone to be rooted for a few reasons however, I just wanted to know is it likely that the screen could die like others mentioned? and will Samsung repair screen if it's rooted? Also how would I root it? Also could Google Pay work?
I Need root access since I live in a bad reception area and want to use Auto airplane toggle as it would save battery life and other mods.
Anyways, Sorry for bombarding people with questions
If your warranty is done by June, and you root the device after your warranty period, then it doesn't matter if you have a dead screen. You will still have to pay to get it replaced. In case you root before that, you will lose all functions related to Knox.
Thanks. Are dead screens common issue?
How do I root my s21 ultra Exynos?
@amirage: Even if you root after warranty period, you will still lose all knox functionalities
Tristan17 said:
How do I root my s21 ultra Exynos?
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Rooting is also in this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...t-for-galaxy-s21-series-b-n-0-u-u1-w.4233567/
Btw I am also considering rooting, I just don't know if it is worth it, if there are some good mods that requires the phone to be rooted.
i'd root too if there is a way to revert Knox, if only to optimize them google apps under naptime, in particular, and squeeze out more batt juice, in general. but, sadly, no...
I finally rooted my phone!!!
Just one thing, How will I update my phone for future updates (like one up 4.1)?
You will need to download the latest release for your model from Sam firmware and flash it on your phone.
Every time I try updating my phone I get this error what do I do please help!?
Tristan17 said:
Every time I try updating my phone I get this error what do I do please help!?
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You cant use the system OTA updates anymore. Use ODIN with Home_CSC to update monthly firmware.

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