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Hi Guys,
My note is arriving tomorrow and im pretty excited. i don't own any andriod phone and is really a noob in this.. but i plan to update from GB to ICS and have been reading/googling to do that.
Many people suggest rooting but i saw someone stating that updating can be done without rooting(Something about odin..). Now im confused. Do i really need to root in order to get updated to ICS?
i heard ICS stunner 5 is pretty good, is there any known bugs or watever features not working properly? is there anything i should look out for when updating to ICS?(i dont want to brick my phone on the same day i got this note)
Thanks a million
bensonk said:
Many people suggest rooting but i saw someone stating that updating can be done without rooting(Something about odin..). Now im confused. Do i really need to root in order to get updated to ICS?
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Rooting is absolutely not a must. You'll get your OTA stock ICS update even if unrooted.
bensonk said:
i heard ICS stunner 5 is pretty good, is there any known bugs or watever features not working properly? is there anything i should look out for when updating to ICS?(i dont want to brick my phone on the same day i got this note)
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I'd stay away from Beta ICS releases for a while if I were you. There's a lot to learn before one can cope with their maintenance, workarounds and fixings. You'll get there when you're ready.
Hope this helps.
When you flash a repack which injects SU (root) then you do not need to root your phone prior, but that will increase your custom count, which could be removed using triangle away.
Is root necessary? I say the answer is personal. It is your call at the end of the day. but once you take the plunge its wide and deep sea out there , you just keep swimming.
So as Chasmodo suggested, just make yourself comfortable with GB then root, unroot, flash a custom ROM and then take a plunge into the ICS.
I think the main thing that will decide whether you need to root or not, is whether any apps you want to use require root.
I rooted my phone so I can use Market Enabler, Adaway, Titanium backup... can't remember what else off the top of my head.
If none of the apps you want to use require root, there really isn't any reason to do so.
Android phone without root is like watching porn with screen turned off.
Rooting is not a must, it's something that you should though. As for custom ROMs, you need root, for Over The Air (OTA) updates or to flash a stock ROM through PC Odin, you don't need root.
I wouldn't advice you to actually stay away from ICS ROMs (Stunner and Imilka's CM9 especially) but yes, they're more complex to flash than say a regular GB Custom ROM. But it's all pretty easy and straightforward these days so don't worry and flash whatever you want. It's pretty hard to brick GN.
Just remember, whatever you flash, never forget to make a backup of your current system. How? You'll learn it soon.
As stated previously if you're new to droid stay with stock, ics update is coming soon. So sit back and enjoy.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
As a noob i would strongly suggest you do NOT root..
rational as follows:
1. You will get ICS soon enough
2. If you dont root, the chances of you shooting yourself in the foot is really small.
3. You should not do things if you dont know a) what you are doing, and b) what can go wrong and c) How to get out of it
4. The number of people who know what they are doing are 1% of the people who think they know what they are doing.
5. there is a whole lot of hurt when folks in 4. above go off and do 3. above.
6. You can't spell zerglings
Look.. You will have so much fun with the Note as stock and with the soon ICS, and need to learn so much about efficient use, setup and customisation of your new toy (never mind the 50apps you download) that you have plenty of time to educate about the pitfalls & benefits yourself along the way .. before you post your..
"i think i just bricked my Note"..
thread.. and the objective is simply NOT to be one of those folks..
Completely agree with Mystic38. My first post here at XDA was 'Bought and bricked' it was my first android phone.
Later I came to know more advantages of root - not just changing fonts. lol
Reasons to consider root
1. Hide ads in angrybirds (yeah! without disabling data everytime you play it)
2. Clockwork recovery
3. Custom roms
4. Kernels
5. More secure --- PDroid, LBE Privacy
6. Scripts and tweaks
This will go on and on...
Take your time, read alot and when you are confident ROOT!
+1 for above, and then when ICS is official and a little stable throw all away and lets hope there will be miui
Thanks guys, i think you all are right, its better to stay put and learn more before jumping in and shoot myself in my foot or do something foolish heheh.
i guess im gona stick with GB until the official ICS is out.
and gona THANKS +1 everyone for the replies
u guys are awesome
same with TS here. I already spend many weeks reading regarding root It's just a matter of time... we will be the next.
Mystic38 said:
As a noob i would strongly suggest you do NOT root..
rational as follows:
1. You will get ICS soon enough
2. If you dont root, the chances of you shooting yourself in the foot is really small.
3. You should not do things if you dont know a) what you are doing, and b) what can go wrong and c) How to get out of it
4. The number of people who know what they are doing are 1% of the people who think they know what they are doing.
5. there is a whole lot of hurt when folks in 4. above go off and do 3. above.
6. You can't spell zerglings
Look.. You will have so much fun with the Note as stock and with the soon ICS, and need to learn so much about efficient use, setup and customisation of your new toy (never mind the 50apps you download) that you have plenty of time to educate about the pitfalls & benefits yourself along the way .. before you post your..
"i think i just bricked my Note"..
thread.. and the objective is simply NOT to be one of those folks..
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This way you stay a noob forever!
1. You will get CRAPPY ICS soon enough.
2. Same for if you root. Rooting isn't dangerous, flashing custom ROMs is but even that ain't dangerous if you use the right files and follow the steps.
3. Completely agree.
4. Where did you get that stat from? NOT TRUE!
6. Yeah, don't root if you can't spell that. I can't!
It's pretty hard to brick a GN IMO.
@Sujal, Don't be mean dude, 'Every phone is hard to brick if you know what you are doing'.
I consider myself advanced user, Note is not my first android phone but my first thought was not to 'play' with it like previous phones.
Boy124 said:
@Sujal, Don't be mean dude, 'Every phone is hard to brick if you know what you are doing'.
I consider myself advanced user, Note is not my first android phone but my first thought was not to 'play' with it like previous phones.
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I'm not being mean bro.
I had a Galaxy S II before I had my note. I also never rooted it but maybe because it was stolen in 9 days. (still hurts :/)
But, everyone has different opinions. I personally feel it's worth playing with it, no matter how long you've had it for. Stock Samsung firmwares are BAD, this is the reason I suggest people to flash custom ROMs, be it GB or even ICS.
And yes, it's hard to brick any phone if you know what you're doing.
this...
Mystic38 said:
As a noob i would strongly suggest you do NOT root..
rational as follows:
1. You will get ICS soon enough
2. If you dont root, the chances of you shooting yourself in the foot is really small.
3. You should not do things if you dont know a) what you are doing, and b) what can go wrong and c) How to get out of it
4. The number of people who know what they are doing are 1% of the people who think they know what they are doing.
5. there is a whole lot of hurt when folks in 4. above go off and do 3. above.
6. You can't spell zerglings
Look.. You will have so much fun with the Note as stock and with the soon ICS, and need to learn so much about efficient use, setup and customisation of your new toy (never mind the 50apps you download) that you have plenty of time to educate about the pitfalls & benefits yourself along the way .. before you post your..
"i think i just bricked my Note"..
thread.. and the objective is simply NOT to be one of those folks..
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this!!!
nuff said..
I was rooted with ICS and went back to stock. I like stock because I don't have to spend any time working on the phone for something I don't really loose. The only thing I really like was speeding up my note but I got to say that really doesn't make much difference in everyday use. ICS should come soon and no matter what has been said, you can't get the update form Samsung if you are rooted.
deserthi said:
ICS should come soon and no matter what has been said, you can't get the update form Samsung if you are rooted.
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Oh, you can't get the update if rooted?
Wanna bet a couple of bucks that a fully functional stock ICS Rom will be posted here before you even get a whiff of OTA/Kies update?
chasmodo said:
Oh, you can't get the update if rooted?
Wanna bet a couple of bucks that a fully functional stock ICS Rom will be posted here before you even get a whiff of OTA/Kies update?
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Add couple more ;-)
BOOMED from my BOMBASTIC NOTE
abhisahara said:
Add couple more ;-)
BOOMED from my BOMBASTIC NOTE
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I was trying to say getting ics from Samsung as a stock download. One can seemingly get anything on this great site.
To Moderator : Sorry for this thread but I really have no time to spend the whole day to find just a few answers. (if you have to cancel it please do, but give me time till tomorrow evening)
I own S2 and tomorrow gettin Note
Need your help as I am leaving for a week after I get the Note tomorrow.
- what is the best method to Root (I need Titanium etc)
- call recording (do I need only Root and Totall Recall?)
- [ROM][XXLC1] Litening ROM Note v1.0 - is it a good choice for the beginning?
Do I need to flash stock LC1 first? or I can flash it over whatever is there?
- Is TV - out working without any problems? Need it at the hotel.
- shall I wait for ICS or it is safe to flash it now?
Cheers
qwerty1q said:
To Moderator : Sorry for this thread but I really have no time to spend the whole day to find just a few answers. (if you have to cancel it please do, but give me time till tomorrow evening)
I own S2 and tomorrow gettin Note
Need your help as I am leaving for a week after I get the Note tomorrow.
- what is the best method to Root (I need Titanium etc)
- call recording (do I need only Root and Totall Recall?)
- [ROM][XXLC1] Litening ROM Note v1.0 - is it a good choice for the beginning?
Do I need to flash stock LC1 first? or I can flash it over whatever is there?
- Is TV - out working without any problems? Need it at the hotel.
- shall I wait for ICS or it is safe to flash it now?
Cheers
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Welcome mate!Hope you'll enjoy your phone!
Now:
1. Rooting Guide
2. Some Roms include it, look on the changelog!
3.I recommend Chrack's ,but you have to try them out yourself to decide! Begin from there IMO!
4. Every Rom has instructions, READ them carefully!
5. Yes! Hope you have a MHL (usb-HDMI) cable. It is perfect.
6.IMO try some GB Roms. By the time you'll be done, there will be more stable ICS Roms out.
Hope that helped!
Getting mine tomorrow as well and seriously considering GB as well right now.
shaolin95 said:
Getting mine tomorrow as well and seriously considering GB as well right now.
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GB is a good place to start and get familiar with your new phone. Current
ICS releases are not completely safe (except for CM9 based Roms), so stay
away from them for a while.
Hi Guys,
I am a new user in the community as well i am a new owner of a galaxy note.I purchased it 3 days back,I have no knowledge about ANDROiD as i have been using NOKIA since last 7 years.
I have a very few simple questions on which i would like to take your EXPERT advice
1.I have updated the FIRMWARE to ICS now.Now after i have updated it i feel that the battery is draining too fast,Just wanted to know how to fix it.
2.Also i have heard that there is a bug in ICS which can brick the phone.How can i check if that bug is there in my Phone or not?
3.Also wanted to know as to how can i make sure that i get atleast 1.5 days from normal use
Please reply back guys as i am very eager to use this fone but when i see the battery backup i feel very disappointed
Please help
dilpreetpuri said:
Hi Guys,
I am a new user in the community as well i am a new owner of a galaxy note.I purchased it 3 days back,I have no knowledge about ANDROiD as i have been using NOKIA since last 7 years.
I have a very few simple questions on which i would like to take your EXPERT advice
1.I have updated the FIRMWARE to ICS now.Now after i have updated it i feel that the battery is draining too fast,Just wanted to know how to fix it.
2.Also i have heard that there is a bug in ICS which can brick the phone.How can i check if that bug is there in my Phone or not?
3.Also wanted to know as to how can i make sure that i get atleast 1.5 days from normal use
Please reply back guys as i am very eager to use this fone but when i see the battery backup i feel very disappointed
Please help
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If you are running stock ICS(which I'm sure you are) you should assume that you are affected by the bug.
Refrain from doing factory reset using the STOCK/CWM recovery as this will trigger the bug even on STOCK recovery. If you have CWM do not do a NANDROID RESTORE.
If you are rooted i suggest flashing a safe custom kernel, a good one that I can
recommend for solid battery life and balanced performance is Speedmod k3-3 just look for it on the development section.
If you don't like custom kernels and prefer stock just do not do the ones I've mentioned above. If you really need to do a factory reset do it on Gingerbread.
Regarding the battery life, there are many factors to consider. First thing that you need to check if your phone is going into deep sleep. Download cpuspy on play store and report back here so we can help you.
HOLY CRAPPPPPP
Well i have already done the FACTORY RESET 2 times but now its working fine so far
So what should i do now?????????????????????????
Also i would like to know if i can switch back to gingerbread os using Skies software?????????????????
You cant use Kies but Id recommend using ODIN because its faster and safer.
Check out dr.ketans guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997, the man is a genius.
His English isnt great, but essentially
Download ODIN
Download whichever stock rom you want (GB)
Set phone to download mode
Connect to Odin
and flash.
His instructions are a lot more detailed (maybe to much so). But if you do this, the dangerous kernel will be gone and youll be safe.
I know where you are coming from being fairly new to the android scene. Have been in it now for about six months and i would consider myself fairly literate. From what you were saying you updated your phone to the official ics version for your phone. Well... The first thing you need to do my friend is read, read, and read some more. Alot of what i know and have learned has been from researching these forums and the web. Rootgalaxynote.com is pretty good for noobs as it usually has videos showing you how to do things step by step but you should also read some of the faq's about rooting and flashing on this site. If i were in your shoes the first thing that i would do would be the following;
1.) root the device using Dr. Keetans method on this site. If you havent done this it wouuld be a good place to egt started. His method will not trigger your phones counter.
2.) I would revert the phone back to its earlier version which would be gingerbread. You can do this by looking in the stock gingerbread roms section under android development on this site. Our fellow senior members have made it fairly easy to find and after reading you should have a pretty good idea of what to do.
3.) Install a kernel that is safe for ics roms such as franco kernel or abyssnote kernel. This should be fairly easy for you to do just make sure you do tue steps exactly as they describe or else you will mess the phone up.
4.) After that you can pick out a custom ics rom which if you are looking for optimal battery consumption this would be the best way to go about it as official ics rom consumes a substantial amount more battery than the sleak, lean more refined custom roms out there. Just be carefull what you choose as some are full of bugs and features not working.
The main thing here is to cover alot of ground and do your homework. Research is key and you always want to stick with sites like xda and a few others. Xda may not be the most user friendly site out there but it contains a wealth of information and iw where the best of the best come together. Hope this helps my friend.
dilpreetpuri said:
HOLY CRAPPPPPP
Well i have already done the FACTORY RESET 2 times but now its working fine so far
So what should i do now?????????????????????????
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If you can still run it fine, then you're good. But from now on refrain from doing things on the recovery until you're on a safe kernel. Some users reported that they were able to do a factory reset to the nth time before encountering the brick. Meaning you can factory reset 999 times and get away with it and on the 1000th time, brick ur device seriously god knows when it will happen.
Just stay away from CWM or Stock recovery for now if you don't know what you're doing just to be safe.
P.S. ICS is nothing to be scared of if you know what you're doing. Do a little research about the hardbrick bug good place
to start reading about it is this POST
Well i completely agree with you mate and i need to do a lot of homework before i make any change.However since i am very new to the terminology used in ANDROID so would like to ask you if there is any website which can explain me a lil bit about these terminologies so that i know what everbody is talking about or is it that i should simply go through the forums and then join all the bits and pieces to get an idea about the terms used.
Also i would like to ask you that "ODIN" is it like another software which is used to flash the FIRMWARE
dilpreetpuri said:
Well i completely agree with you mate and i need to do a lot of homework before i make any change.However since i am very new to the terminology used in ANDROID so would like to ask you if there is any website which can explain me a lil bit about these terminologies so that i know what everbody is talking about or is it that i should simply go through the forums and then join all the bits and pieces to get an idea about the terms used.
Also i would like to ask you that "ODIN" is it like another software which is used to flash the FIRMWARE
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hmm. website... ? well you can start on this website http://developer.android.com/about/index.html and don't forget our ever loved website.. (XDA-DEV)...
Just by snooping, hanging around, munch and digest all you can and soon you'll be able to pick some neat tricks in learning android terminologies in no time at all.
ODIN (PC /Mobile) is a very neat indispensable tool for custom room makers and flashers... With this tool you can always at your disposal.. whilst jump from one custom rom to another, which ever your choice or liking. Changing ROMS is akin to Flashing.. so if you flash a ROM, you are changing your current ROM to whatever ROM you would like to have it installed on your phone.
Every custom ROM has its highlights and lowlights... pick what suits you best and your good to go after. Flashing ROMs with Gingerbread support (if your still in stock GB), assures you no brick at all... Now on the other hand, if your already in ICS(Stock) and would like to flash custom roms with iCS support.. then I do warn you to be wary of it. A lot of people have fallen and have been bitten by the hardbrick bug... Just always be extra careful in doing it.
Cheers bud!
First of all i really thank everyone for their help considering that i am a noob when it comes to android
2ndly i am alos getting an impression that Gingerbread is a better bet as of now till there is a permanent fix for the Bug and secondly i am getting an impression that GB was much better when it comes to the battery backup
Correct me if i am wrong
Alos a clarification
Stock rom means the firmware from SAMSUNG?Am i correct?
Custom rom means that it has been tweaked to avoid any known issues?Am i correct?
Also if i change from custom to stock riom does that hamper the warrenty or not?
dilpreetpuri said:
First of all i really thank everyone for their help considering that i am a noob when it comes to android
2ndly i am alos getting an impression that Gingerbread is a better bet as of now till there is a permanent fix for the Bug and secondly i am getting an impression that GB was much better when it comes to the battery backup
Correct me if i am wrong
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Right
dilpreetpuri said:
Alos a clarification
Stock rom means the firmware from SAMSUNG?Am i correct?
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Correct
dilpreetpuri said:
Custom rom means that it has been tweaked to avoid any known issues?Am i correct?
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Correct
dilpreetpuri said:
Also if i change from custom to stock riom does that hamper the warrenty or not?
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Yes! Flash it back to Stock Rom and unroot it. You should be good to go.
You should not worry too much about the bricking bug. If you stay on stock rom and your phone gets bricked you are covered by the warranty. It is not your fault that the phone has that problem.
I also recommend that you ask some friend that has experience to help if you want to flash/root/install custom rom, given that you have little experience with android.
i have just checked in and found this link "Root Your Phone"
This means he is going back to a particular version
Right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV3PLcYbAnU
Dilpreet,
U remind me of myself 2 years back when I was equally inquisitive, enthusiastic but lacking knowledge...
First of all... There is no problem whatsoever if you remain on stock(yes u r right official) Samsung ics provided you don't do factory reset ahead.
2. U need to familiarize yourself with android terminology such as rooting, flashing custom (yes again u r right tweaked) roms, recovery mode, download mode, full wipe, Odin, directly/not directly root able roms etc etc... I am not trying to psyche you out but just giving a word of caution. Unless you know all of these terminologies well (you will get lot of reading on xda on each of this) , PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT ANYTHING. By anything I mean even reverting to GB. U must have updated from GB to iCS OTA (over the air) that is on device itself but this rversal won't be easy unless u fully know what u r doing... so first familiarize urself and then get into it.
3. As regards battery life on stock ics , you can use app named juice defender (available on play store) it has lot of options for battery saving. Besides check if GPS and wifi options are not switched on when not in use... some apps are battery hoggers. Check battery usage under settings ---- battery to see how its doing.
4. There are few safe ics kernels available like what has been told u before by some people in this thread... I would strongly suggest Cm9 or any cm9 based rom like asylum (btw Cm stands for cyanogenmod ) which are smooth and safe & yes extremely battery efficient too.
5. Lastly, I will pm you one apk file which will help you know whether your phone has a brick bug or not... do uninstall that application after you check it. For installing any external app (apk file) you need to go in settings ---- security --- and tick unknown sources
PS: Do click Thanks if I have been of any help mate
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app
Nopes... rooting is gaining administrator rights over your phone. In simple terms , being able to access system folder on your phone... Beware, rooting voids warranty.. Please refer Dr. ketan's guide on rooting note on other thread... That's best
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". Lastly, I will pm you one apk file which will help you know whether your phone has a brick bug or not... do uninstall that application after you check it. For installing any external app (apk file) you need to go in settings ---- security --- and tick unknown sources:"
Thanks for the info mate
And i have already checked the article which helps you to check if your handset is affected or not and what i could understand was that we just have to install the application and then run the application and will generate a result
But what after that?
I mean how ill i come to know which files to look for which will tell us if its affected or not
I am not aware as to which all files to look for
Please help me
It will throw up the result after checking.. u need not look for anything... it will tell u if ur phone is prone to brick bug.. check it urself. Have sent u the apk file already through pm (personal message).
This will just tell you if you are really prone to this bug, nothing beyond that. If you are then you have three options:
1. Stick to stock ics rom but don't do full wipe again
2. Revert to stock GB through Odin
3. Switch to safe ics kernel (and enjoy lovely ics experience without boring Samsung touchwiz)
For the last you will have to root your phone for remaining, rooting not required.
PS: Please press Thanks button if I have helped you anyway
Sent using xda forum app
Device: SGN N7000
ROM: Asylum V.15
dilpreetpuri said:
HOLY CRAPPPPPP
Well i have already done the FACTORY RESET 2 times but now its working fine so far
So what should i do now?????????????????????????
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What ROM are you on exactly??I've heard this brick issue is solved in the ROMS released last month.With CF-root 5.6 it's even safe to wipe.But no one dares to try apparently so it needs confirmation.
I am on 4.0.3
Any help guys??????????????????????
dilpreetpuri said:
HOLY CRAPPPPPP
Well i have already done the FACTORY RESET 2 times but now its working fine so far
So what should i do now?????????????????????????
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Lol...I know just how you feel, searching for answers!
Going from stock 5.1.1 to custom.
I want something feature filled, possibly stable and with a dark theme.
Please help me data costs me too much so i can spend tons of time downloading broken roms and non working utilities.
first of all its not a true place to your subject
second i suggest you try Rockz1L
I suggest you go for the "Donotpostquestionsindevelopmentforums" ROM. I'm lovin it.
NICE.. i never posted there.. must have been a bug or something.
FFS
And if i did.... do you think it was intentional?
Hey just got this N910T3. Was on PK2, wanted to use the new M12 Dr.Ketan rom. Installed but imei was shot. Figuring maybe it doesn't work fully with QB1 firmware. Tried ODIN with PK2, went thru fine, just wouldn't boot up. System ui failed errors. Any ideas on how to downgrade?
sketchy . super concerning too , I'm way back on like DOK2 I think and using CMremix , I love it but it's so bugged out reliability is like a 2 / 10 .....well sorta , its like it knows when I NEED it and freaking bootloops but I do fully blame my mods . I'll prob just wipe and start fresh w/o exposed or carefully add modules , back up each time. I see no serious gains from upgrading boot and going back to stock , I do really want to try the N5/N7 - new TW stuff but serious concerns with it since can't back it down again.....hmmm. well best of luck I'll post back if I do proceed and find a sweet spot / an option for you.
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sketchy . super concerning too , I'm way back on like DOK2 I think and using CMremix , I love it but it's so bugged out reliability is like a 2 / 10 .....well sorta , its like it knows when I NEED it and freaking bootloops but I do fully blame my mods . I'll prob just wipe and start fresh w/o exposed or carefully add modules , back up each time. I see no serious gains from upgrading boot and going back to stock , I do really want to try the N5/N7 - new TW stuff but serious concerns with it since can't back it down again.....hmmm. well best of luck I'll post back if I do proceed and find a sweet spot / an option for you.
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that ROM just isnt compatible with the tmo variety. i know his roms are bomb ass so i said **** it flash away and hope for the best. but yea, im all good to go again. still looking for bomb ass note 4 roms. i like the ressurection remix and AICP nougat roms. the TW ones seem to let my phone die around below 40%...but i think all my titanium app backups are glitching out nougat