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Losing Root after installing XPosed

So, I am using PIE from jcase and everything seems to go smoothly until I install XPosed.
Once I soft-reboot in the xposed installer, the device comes back to life but then after the screen is turned off for about 1 minute or more, I lose all root privileges. Funny thing is, any root checkers I run say that my phone still has root.
I really have no idea what could be causing this.
any ideas?

Why not ask in the PIE thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623

Already talked to him. He doesn't have any clue either..
I got my B/L unlocked today and have full time root. This is no longer needed.

KJ said:
Why not ask in the PIE thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
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Jcase posted he didn't want talk about Xposed, tethering, safestrap, etc... ( HERE ) in that thread... He wanted to keep it just about Pie itself.

Three in touch working :) bypassing the root check

all thanks goes to ...https://redfern.me/bypassing-root-detection-in-three-intouch/
http://d-h.st/ZVg

I always use the app called "RootCloak" for those kind of apps.
Works perfectly everytime!

joeyzbg said:
I always use the app called "RootCloak" for those kind of apps.
Works perfectly everytime!
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Same as what I use. Fails for Halifax banking app though

i never had root or unlocked boot loader but still got the error as it is cyanogen and i didn't want to root to root cloak to get three in touch

It says that my carrier is unsupported, any way to bypass that?

joeyzbg said:
I always use the app called "RootCloak" for those kind of apps.
Works perfectly everytime!
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Used this myself, but it doesn't work with ART unfortunately
ricebus said:
It says that my carrier is unsupported, any way to bypass that?
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Are you with Three?

bobthecooldad said:
all thanks goes to ...https://redfern.me/bypassing-root-detection-in-three-intouch/
http://d-h.st/ZVg
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this hides root and cyanogen mod without needing to root and void warranty so it will run on our phones

any tips,? I can't install it.
The install button doesn't respond to my press
ah no problem sussed it, had to install it using adb.

app updated.
An update has been released by 3uk today.
Can anyone provide the new .apk with the root check removed again.
Thanks

More importantly.. anyone worked out how to use it on tablet?

Activate Android Pay on a rooted phone

I'm on M3 rooted with Despair kernel.
Got Android pay update and tried to activate it by adding a credit card information. It bailed out saying that my phone can't be trusted, I figured out that's because of root.
I tried to unroot in SuperSu. First by disabling Enable Superuser root button, second by Full unroot. Both methods didn't work, Android pay still couldn't be activated.
I then tried to format and flash boot, system, recovery MPA44I images. I started to get a RED message your phone can't be trusted on boot. Android pay still couldn't be activated. NOTE: I didn't erase data partition.
I don't want to do a full factory reset.
What are my options now ?

jodvova said:
I'm on M3 rooted with Despair kernel.
Got Android pay update and tried to activate it by adding a credit card information. It bailed out saying that my phone can't be trusted, I figured out that's because of root.
I tried to unroot in SuperSu. First by disabling Enable Superuser root button, second by Full unroot. Both methods didn't work, Android pay still couldn't be activated.
I then tried to format and flash boot, system, recovery MPA44I images. I started to get a RED message your phone can't be trusted on boot. Android pay still couldn't be activated. NOTE: I didn't erase data partition.
I don't want to do a full factory reset.
What are my options now ?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...per-preview-but-it-will-in-the-final-release/
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Thanks!

jodvova said:
Got Android pay update and tried to activate it by adding a credit card information. It bailed out saying that my phone can't be trusted . . .
What are my options now ?
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Paying with money.
(Just joking, forgive me. I just got a message of the bank that we have to pay for nfc paying)

jodvova said:
I'm on M3 rooted with Despair kernel.
Got Android pay update and tried to activate it by adding a credit card information. It bailed out saying that my phone can't be trusted, I figured out that's because of root.
I tried to unroot in SuperSu. First by disabling Enable Superuser root button, second by Full unroot. Both methods didn't work, Android pay still couldn't be activated.
I then tried to format and flash boot, system, recovery MPA44I images. I started to get a RED message your phone can't be trusted on boot. Android pay still couldn't be activated. NOTE: I didn't erase data partition.
I don't want to do a full factory reset.
What are my options now ?
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This might be worth a look.
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-external-link/no-device-check-xposed-module/

adfurgerson said:
This might be worth a look.
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-external-link/no-device-check-xposed-module/
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Thanks for the link. I just tried it with N6Shamu and it doesn't seem to work for me.

CharFalco said:
Thanks for the link. I just tried it with N6Shamu and it doesn't seem to work for me.
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Same here. Nexus 6, latest chroma build, rooted, bootloader unlocked, using xposed RootCloak and the No Device Check modules. No dice.

Is there any way to revert back to the old Google Wallet?

CyberZion said:
Is there any way to revert back to the old Google Wallet?
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Go to the Android Pay app info, and uninstall updates. This will roll it back into Google Wallet. You should also go and uninstall the new wallet app if you have it so as to avoid confusion.
After that, I had to find an APK site that could update my wallet app back up to Version 9.0. I've since disabled auto-updates to the Google Wallet app until I see some signs of support for root.

I'm unlocked, rooted, and running Xposed w/ Android Pay setup and have had no issues...

ethan.r.besbris said:
I'm unlocked, rooted, and running Xposed w/ Android Pay setup and have had no issues...
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Have you actually been able to make a purchase? I got everything setup and activated but received an error message when I tried to use it. I then disabled root and rebooted to try the payment again. Did not get the error message this time but the transaction did not complete.

I made a payment this morning using Pay without a problem.

ethan.r.besbris said:
I made a payment this morning using Pay without a problem.
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Weird since Google has already announced on the complaints in GPS that currently Development Builds and Rooted Devices are not supported. Is Xposed Masking root for you?

GMoGoody said:
Weird since Google has already announced on the complaints in GPS that currently Development Builds and Rooted Devices are not supported. Is Xposed Masking root for you?
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i installed it fine yesterday(into /data/data/), and added a card no problem. i have root, an unlocked bootloader, am running m(jdx rom), and have a custom kernel. using google play services 8.1.14.

simms22 said:
i installed it fine yesterday(into /data/data/), and added a card no problem. i have root, an unlocked bootloader, am running m(jdx rom), and have a custom kernel. using google play services 8.1.14.
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Have you tried to make a purchase? @ethan.r.besbris was the only one I know of that has successfully purchased something with root. I too have everything installed but the vending machine and whole foods today gave me errors when actually trying a transaction. I am trying to figure out what the difference is. As of now I do not have Xposed installed.

GMoGoody said:
Have you tried to make a purchase? @ethan.r.besbris was the only one I know of that has successfully purchased something with root. I too have everything installed but the vending machine and whole foods today gave me errors when actually trying a transaction. I am trying to figure out what the difference is. As of now I do not have Xposed installed.
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no, that was my mistake. after i installed it to see if all was alright, i uninstalled it, and got rid if my nfc. all my friends have gotten weird messages after install, so i assumed i was fine. i dont need it, or want it, i was just trying to help out my friends.

simms22 said:
no, that was my mistake. after i installed it to see if all was alright, i uninstalled it, and got rid if my nfc. all my friends have gotten weird messages after install, so i assumed i was fine. i dont need it, or want it, i was just trying to help out my friends.
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No worries. Thanks for the input. Seems to be a lot of different results out in the wild right now. Not the best launch
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ethan.r.besbris said:
I'm unlocked, rooted, and running Xposed w/ Android Pay setup and have had no issues...
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What ROM?

Stock.

ethan.r.besbris said:
Stock.
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Interesting, you're stock 5.1.1 rom like me but you're rooted w/ xposed. The only person rooted where it works is Simms22 and he's on JDX M rom which AP is said not to work. @simms22 what did you do special?

Is root worth it? What do I lose?

As the title says...I'm considering doing root in my V2. I just got my replacement note an hour ago. I immediately paused the update because I read somewhere on here that once you update, you won't be able to root. I was looking forward to root till I started thinking about what types of abilities I would actually lose by rooting?
What I can think of from the top of my head is:
1) No Samsung/Android pay
2) Some games won't let you play if you're rooted.
3) Some games won't let you play if you have xPosed installed (such as Marvel Future Fight)
4) Can't do software updates to make my phone faster/fix anything that is wrong (can't I just install the software updates after installing root? Or will that just remove the root?)
5) Voids warranty
Anything else I might lose?
I'm excited for xPosed cause I need me some modules such as snapprefs, and youtube playing in the background. I also like having the ability to change things around the device and such
Is there a way to get around the "xPosed detected" in those types of games by the way?

Luckily for you, the current root does not trip knox
1) Samsung pay will not work, but with right xpose set up Android pay will. The good news is if you ever go back to stock, Samsung pay will work again (knox not tripped)
2) Some games indeed will not work, but with the right xpose app you can fix this by hiding root from it.
3)I did not know that! They getting fancy now...but I can see reason why. I guess no Marvel Future Fight for you if you have xposed than. I know you can hide root from apps, not sure you can hide xposed from apps.
4)You cannot do software update, this is true. The run around for this is to wait for a developer, or even Jovy do a deodex of the new update and you can install that while keeping your old bootloader (for root to work). There is a possible downside to this...samsung is known to make their software run very funny if you are not on the corresponding bootloader. P.S. I never recommend taking a software update while you are rooted (assuming it will even install depending on what you have frozen or block). Just dont risk it.
5) TECHNICALLY your warranty will not be voided with current root method. Knox not tripped = Warranty in place.
As you can see, you are not really loosing much.

Root cloak fixes every problem with root.

Leelouster said:
As the title says...I'm considering doing root in my V2. I just got my replacement note an hour ago. I immediately paused the update because I read somewhere on here that once you update, you won't be able to root. I was looking forward to root till I started thinking about what types of abilities I would actually lose by rooting?
What I can think of from the top of my head is:
1) No Samsung/Android pay
2) Some games won't let you play if you're rooted.
3) Some games won't let you play if you have xPosed installed (such as Marvel Future Fight)
4) Can't do software updates to make my phone faster/fix anything that is wrong (can't I just install the software updates after installing root? Or will that just remove the root?)
5) Voids warranty
Anything else I might lose?
I'm excited for xPosed cause I need me some modules such as snapprefs, and youtube playing in the background. I also like having the ability to change things around the device and such
Is there a way to get around the "xPosed detected" in those types of games by the way?
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You'll lose secure folder and if you update shealth after the root process it will no longer run.

louforgiveno said:
You'll lose secure folder and if you update shealth after the root process it will no longer run.
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Oh yeah, I've heard about the shealth thing, just update it before you root and you'll be good It's a shame about the secure folder...:/ Anyway to go around it to be able to use it just like the shealth?

Seems like rooting will somehow cripple your device...wow times have changed.
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charlieb620 said:
Root cloak fixes every problem with root.
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Will samsung pay continue working?
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leelouster said:
oh yeah, i've heard about the shealth thing, just update it before you root and you'll be good it's a shame about the secure folder...:/ anyway to go around it to be able to use it just like the shealth?
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im rooted wit secured folder workin

mister_propa said:
im rooted wit secured folder workin
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How did you get that working? Ive tried setting it up before rooting and it wont let me open the file. I also tried setting it up after rooting but it keeps giving me error making the folder.
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Leelouster said:
Oh yeah, I've heard about the shealth thing, just update it before you root and you'll be good It's a shame about the secure folder...:/ Anyway to go around it to be able to use it just like the shealth?
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I had heard even if you update s health before rooting once your rooted it wont open due to root.

This is the first Android device I've own that I feel no need to root. Sure I'd love to have Viper4Android running but can't justify all I'd lose to run one app that requires root.

mgbotoe said:
Luckily for you, the current root does not trip knox
1) Samsung pay will not work, but with right xpose set up Android pay will. The good news is if you ever go back to stock, Samsung pay will work again (knox not tripped)
2) Some games indeed will not work, but with the right xpose app you can fix this by hiding root from it.
3)I did not know that! They getting fancy now...but I can see reason why. I guess no Marvel Future Fight for you if you have xposed than. I know you can hide root from apps, not sure you can hide xposed from apps.
4)You cannot do software update, this is true. The run around for this is to wait for a developer, or even Jovy do a deodex of the new update and you can install that while keeping your old bootloader (for root to work). There is a possible downside to this...samsung is known to make their software run very funny if you are not on the corresponding bootloader. P.S. I never recommend taking a software update while you are rooted (assuming it will even install depending on what you have frozen or block). Just dont risk it.
5) TECHNICALLY your warranty will not be voided with current root method. Knox not tripped = Warranty in place.
As you can see, you are not really loosing much.
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THANK YOU for you detailed explanation, this is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for your advice and everything Do you know what xpose app that is to hide root from games? I don't think you can hide xposed from apps though :/
charlieb620 said:
Root cloak fixes every problem with root.
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I'm guessing that's an xposed module?
mister_propa said:
im rooted wit secured folder workin
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How did you get it working? Can you please tell me what you did?
dkb218 said:
This is the first Android device I've own that I feel no need to root. Sure I'd love to have Viper4Android running but can't justify all I'd lose to run one app that requires root.
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I feel ya, I'm on the same boat, but I'd really enjoy some xposed modules lol. I'm an audiophile and haven't had Viper4Android since the S5 and I miss it lol

Unlock and Google Pay

If I unlock my XL when I get it will it prevent Google Pay from working?
I thought Google deemed an unlocked phone as being insecure.

Assuming by unlock, you mean unlocking the bootloader, yes, using stock software, it will prevent you from using google pay as long as the bootloader is unlocked.

uicnren said:
Assuming by unlock, you mean unlocking the bootloader, yes, using stock software, it will prevent you from using google pay as long as the bootloader is unlocked.
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Unless you follow these instructions: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-google-pay-gms-17-1-22-pie-t3929950

magisk will make gpay work

GPay
sudoxd said:
magisk will make gpay work
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Got mine working this afternoon

OK, so I have to root. Understand. Thanks all.

m+a+r+k said:
OK, so I have to root. Understand. Thanks all.
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If you root with SuperSU I will come over there and throat punch you

I rooted using magisk when i 1st got my phone and followed the steps to get gpay to work. unfortunately it never worked had to go back to stock and relock the bootloader. anyone else having this issue?

manson1994 said:
I rooted using magisk when i 1st got my phone and followed the steps to get gpay to work. unfortunately it never worked had to go back to stock and relock the bootloader. anyone else having this issue?
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Works fine for me with magisk and the tick checked under magisk hide for gpay. Your rom may be causing issues if you have one.

sudoxd said:
If you root with SuperSU I will come over there and throat punch you
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I still remember the glory days of superSU
Ahh how times have changed

sudoxd said:
If you root with SuperSU I will come over there and throat punch you
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Wow, and no emoji.
Replaced SU for Magisk years ago

sudoxd said:
Works fine for me with magisk and the tick checked under magisk hide for gpay. Your rom may be causing issues if you have one.
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I will try again I did Mark it as hide in magisk, however when I disabled the permissions when they popped back up I think I hit allow. That may be the issue. I just used the stock room with root

manson1994 said:
I will try again I did Mark it as hide in magisk, however when I disabled the permissions when they popped back up I think I hit allow. That may be the issue. I just used the stock room with root
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why did you disallow any permissions? everything gets setup as it would normally, just with gpay checked in magisk hide.