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Hello everyone
I just bought 2 xiaomi MI5 phones, one for me and one for my girl. Both are the 32GB versions with 3 gb ram, one gold one normal. I bought them from 2 different vendors in bucharest (because of the color, of course).
Now, the issue is this:
- gold phone has MIUI global 7.3.4.0.0 (MAACNDD) stable
- black phone has MIUI by xiaomi.eu version 7.8.11.0 (MAACNDB) stable
I lokked out this 2 versions and i found out that they are not official also they have some crazy **** apps like 9apps and mobomarket and a weird keyboard.
Now i tried to update the gold versions to the latest version and says no update available via the iupdate manager from settings. Same to the black one.
The gold one has an signal issue with Telekom Romania and the black one has a masive WLAN battery drain (43% ?!). I google the WLAN battery drain and found a related post from Redmi note 3 that said it's some kind of ROM issue that masks another app that is usign the phone like hell.
I applied for the unlock from Xioami, now my question is:
Should i wait for the unlock and add the latest stable official update or go to another rom (before i had note3 and S5 from samsung and rooted them both)?
If your advice is to go to another rom, do i need to wait for Xiaomi to unlock the devices or it s a go without it?
Look forward for some help, i really love this phone, is perfect for me and my needs.
Best regards
Mihai
comanteodormihai said:
Hello everyone
I just bought 2 xiaomi MI5 phones, one for me and one for my girl. Both are the 32GB versions with 3 gb ram, one gold one normal. I bought them from 2 different vendors in bucharest (because of the color, of course).
Now, the issue is this:
- gold phone has MIUI global 7.3.4.0.0 (MAACNDD) stable
- black phone has MIUI by xiaomi.eu version 7.8.11.0 (MAACNDB) stable
I lokked out this 2 versions and i found out that they are not official also they have some crazy **** apps like 9apps and mobomarket and a weird keyboard.
Now i tried to update the gold versions to the latest version and says no update available via the iupdate manager from settings. Same to the black one.
The gold one has an signal issue with Telekom Romania and the black one has a masive WLAN battery drain (43% ?!). I google the WLAN battery drain and found a related post from Redmi note 3 that said it's some kind of ROM issue that masks another app that is usign the phone like hell.
I applied for the unlock from Xioami, now my question is:
Should i wait for the unlock and add the latest stable official update or go to another rom (before i had note3 and S5 from samsung and rooted them both)?
If your advice is to go to another rom, do i need to wait for Xiaomi to unlock the devices or it s a go without it?
Look forward for some help, i really love this phone, is perfect for me and my needs.
Best regards
Mihai
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Hi,
First of all, I don't own mi5, but I had the same problem when I purchased my Redmi Note 3 Pro (Snapdragon version)
It was loaded with unofficial MIUI ROM
(you can figure if it is unofficial or not by checking the version, OFFICIAL ROMS are MIUI x.x.x.x and UNOFFICIAL ROMS are MIUI x.x.x.x.x or so I was told)
So, my phone came with locked bootloader, the same as yours as I understand.
Problem with locked bootloader is I can't install ROMs or custom recoveries from fastboot.
Flashing OFFICIAL ROMs I downloaded from their official website using Updater App is a no no either, since I was on unofficial build (the updater app always return can't verify package error everytime I try to flash official ROM)
So the last resort seems to be applying to permission for unlocking bootloader ....
Until I found out that it is possible to flash OFFICIAL ROMS from fastboot without unlocking bootloader.
The trick is going to EDL (download) mode when you're in fastboot using ADB. After you're in EDL you can use mi flash tool to flash official flashboot ROMs.
You can search the forums for how to do that, and since I don't own mi5 I never tested it, but from what I understand the mi5 have EDL mode, just like Redmi Note 3 Pro, because it is Qualcomm thing.
I was able to get back to official ROM with this method much sooner before my permission was granted (took 8 days before I got approved).
And please remember above method only if you want to go back to official build, don't flash custom ROMS (idk if that's possible) at least until you got your bootloader unlocked, flash custom recovery (twrp) then from there you can install custom ROMs.
Hope this help
Cheers.
jackevil said:
Hi,
First of all, I don't own mi5, but I had the same problem when I purchased my Redmi Note 3 Pro (Snapdragon version)
It was loaded with unofficial MIUI ROM
(you can figure if it is unofficial or not by checking the version, OFFICIAL ROMS are MIUI x.x.x.x and UNOFFICIAL ROMS are MIUI x.x.x.x.x or so I was told)
So, my phone came with locked bootloader, the same as yours as I understand.
Problem with locked bootloader is I can't install ROMs or custom recoveries from fastboot.
Flashing OFFICIAL ROMs I downloaded from their official website using Updater App is a no no either, since I was on unofficial build (the updater app always return can't verify package error everytime I try to flash official ROM)
So the last resort seems to be applying to permission for unlocking bootloader ....
Until I found out that it is possible to flash OFFICIAL ROMS from fastboot without unlocking bootloader.
The trick is going to EDL (download) mode when you're in fastboot using ADB. After you're in EDL you can use mi flash tool to flash official flashboot ROMs.
You can search the forums for how to do that, and since I don't own mi5 I never tested it, but from what I understand the mi5 have EDL mode, just like Redmi Note 3 Pro, because it is Qualcomm thing.
I was able to get back to official ROM with this method much sooner before my permission was granted (took 8 days before I got approved).
And please remember above method only if you want to go back to official build, don't flash custom ROMS (idk if that's possible) at least until you got your bootloader unlocked, flash custom recovery (twrp) then from there you can install custom ROMs.
Hope this help
Cheers.
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Thx for info. I managed, the same day that i published the thread, to recovery flash the original rom (chinesse version).
After that i requested unlock i now i'm running the latest global stable and it s wonderfull.
comanteodormihai said:
Thx for info. I managed, the same day that i published the thread, to recovery flash the original rom (chinesse version).
After that i requested unlock i now i'm running the latest global stable and it s wonderfull.
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Glad you've gotten it sorted, should have MIUI 8 now too as that's available, great phones once you get the vendor crap from them, mine (Mi5 Pro White 128GB) was the same purchased from EGlobalCentral
Just found out that I have a Mi Mix waiting for me when I get home. I've made a checklist of what I want to do to it to get it setup for my use. I wanted to know if anyone had anything to add or has done any of what I'm planning on.
Unlock Bootloader
This should be relatively simple. I already have my unlock permission and will be using the directions from here: http://en.miui.com/thread-202290-1-1.html
As far as I can tell by reading that thread, I do not need to install the developer ROM first. Is this correct?
I will also follow the top reply to this thread which mentions linking your device to your Mi account before unlocking to prevent errors: https://m.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/5co8t1/mi_unlock_approval/
Install TWRP
My plan is to follow these instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/development/recovery-official-twrp-xiaomi-mi-mix-t3498960
This is where I start having questions. I've been out of the rooting and ROMing game for a couple of years. Does anyone recommend rooting with anything other than SuperSU? I'm reading that it was bought by a Chinese company and shouldn't be trusted. I've also read that using Magisk you can have root that is easily turned off. I'll admit I'm pretty lost at the moment when it comes to what Magisk does and how to use it. But if it is the recommended way of doing things I will do the research to learn it.
Flash The EU ROM
I think my plan is to flash this EU ROM which debloats everything and seems to come with gapps and a lot of other nice optimizations: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-11-10.36056/
My first question is has anyone tried this?
My second question is will I need to reinstall TWRP and re-root? I think I will have to re-TWRP because on the TWRP page there is one version for stock and one for the EU version. I will be on stock first and I can't flash EU until after I flash TWRP. So I think the procedure will have to be:
Flash stock TWRP
Flash EU ROM
Flash EU TWRP
Re-Root?
Turn Off All Battery Optimizations
Don't have a guide for this yet but I'm guessing it's not hard to find. Feel free to reply with one if you have one.
Personalize
Launchers/Themes/Icon Packs/etc. Don't need suggestions here since I already know what I have in mind.
Anything else?
The only other thing I can think of that I might want to install is Xposed. I've never used it and don't know how to install it but I'll learn if I can be convinced that it's something I want.
What else am I missing?
I think right now the biggest thing I'm curious about is if anyone has used the EU ROM and what the procedure is if you use that ROM since there are 2 different versions of TWRP for the Mi Mix. But any other suggestions on what to do with the initial setup or how to make my experience better are welcome. I'd also love to hear about any "gotchas" that aren't mentioned in the guides from people who have actually done it.
Well I took the plunge without waiting for feedback and for anyone who is interested, I'll answer my own questions. Read the posts that I linked in the OP to understand what I'm doing below. I will not cover how to get unlock permission as this has been covered elsewhere.
Unlock Bootloader
As far as I can tell by reading that thread, I do not need to install the developer ROM first. Is this correct?
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This is not correct. You must install the Dev ROM and connect to WiFi and follow the steps to enable Developer options and login to your Mi account in developer options.
Install TWRP
Before installing TWRP you must update back to the stable ROM. The non-EU version of TWRP will not work with the Dev ROM as of this posting. You can update to the stable ROM using the same steps as updating to the developer ROM. In the TWRP install guide I linked above, I stopped right after step 6 and continued below.
Flash the EU ROM
Instead of flashing SuperSU after installing TWRP, I copied over the EU ROM linked above and flashed that. Then I followed the instructions starting from step 3 of this post to flash SuperSU, Magisk, and suhide: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongod...k_v7_systemless_xposed_v866_released/d8d7ziw/
The only change I made is that in between steps 4 and 5, I flashed the EU version of TWRP before continuing because otherwise the touchscreen would not work in TWRP. I used the most recent versions for the SuperSU, Magisk, and suhide and I did not flash Xposed yet but I believe I can do that in the future if I want to.
That's where I'm at now. The rest of my checklist was mostly personal preference so I won't go into that. Hope this helps.
@chimera533
THX for taking the plunge & sharing your results with us.
I'm sure I'll be doing the same once mine arrives, hope you don't mind if I look this way if I have any questions regarding TWRP/Root/etc.....
Thank you for posting this, this is the exact list of what I will be doing when my Mi Mix comes in the mail (C'mon Ibuygou).
I couldn't seem to find a EU rom for Mi mix though it is listed in the thread as a supported drive. Will you please drop me the link to download? Thank you.
jim380 said:
I couldn't seem to find a EU rom for Mi mix though it is listed in the thread as a supported drive. Will you please drop me the link to download? Thank you.
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I think I got mine from here: https://megadysk.pl/f/6.11.10
Just scroll down to the Mi Mix one.
There are 3 repositories to the 6.11.10 weekly ROMs at the top of the page here: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-11-10.36056/
As far as I know there are no stable EU builds for the Mi Mix probably because it's so new.
Also I believe the weekly updates show up here: https://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/miui-weekly-rom-releases.103/
The Mi Mix was skipped for 6.11.17 as evidenced by the note at the top of the 6.11.17 thread.
That's about all I know. I highly recommend reading all or most of every link I posted here. I'll confess that if I had, I would've known things like having to flash back to stable before TWRP-ing as well as some other things.
It would be nice if you did an edit of your original post, rather than a 'by the way' post below it. It would be much easier to follow the instructions.
I've installed TWRP on multiple phones. The dm-verity stuff is new to me (A xiaomi/MIUI thing I guess),
so the sequence appears to be:
install Official MIUI China developer ROM
<unlock>
install Official stable rom
install Official (Non-EU) TWRP (requires stable)
copy/install EU ROM after step 6 (aka before exiting TWRP)
< Do you reboot now and go back into fastload now? or stay inside TWRP? >
Install EU TWRP
install supersu (again, before you exit TWRP?)
Install Magisk, suhide?
Apologies but I'm away from home at the moment. I'll update the OP with more detail when I have a bit more time. But I'll give you some quick answers below.
install Official MIUI China developer ROM
Remember to log in to your Mi account in the developer options
<unlock>
install Official stable rom
install Official (Non-EU) TWRP (requires stable)
copy/install EU ROM after step 6 (aka before exiting TWRP)
While still in TWRP, install SuperSU in systemless mode.
Boot to system once
Boot back to fastboot and install EU TWRP
Boot to TWRP and install Magisk, suhide
Boot to system and install magisk manager
Got the Mi Mix 128GB overpriced in Thailand, but without any waiting time.
Love your early thread, very helpful.
I also want to get twrp, suhide, magisk and xposed, but I like to stay on the Chinese Dev or official ROM, not xiaomi.eu, because I like the paid themes which are only available on official ROMs.
I've got a MIUI developer account for 4 years, so I can unlock the device directly, being on stable ROM.
Now the steps are a bit unclear for me. Do I understand them correctly?
1. Unlock bootloader
Download and install the developer rom: http://en.miui.com/download-317.html
Create/Login with your MI Account on the device.
Apply for unlocking the bootloader here: http://en.miui.com/unlock/
Install stable ROM if desired
2. Install official TWRP (NON-EU)
Boot into fastboot mode by turning off your device then pressing volume up and power button
Install Minimal ADB and Fastboot on your PC: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
Download the correct TWRP image file: https://dl.twrp.me/lithium/twrp-3.0.2-0-lithium.img.html
Copy the twrp file to where minimal adb and fastboot has been installed and rename the twrp file to twrp.img
Open fastboot on your computer and type:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery twrp.img
Code:
fastboot reboot
3. Install SuperSU in systemless mode
Download newest SuperSU: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu / http://download.chainfire.eu/1013/SuperSU/SR4-SuperSU-v2.78-SR4-20161115184928.zip
In ADB shell or TWRP shell, type
Code:
echo SYSTEMLESS=true > /data/.supersu
if you don't already have this file to configure SuperSU to install in systemless mode.
Flash SuperSU.
4. Boot to system
5. Boot into TWRP, install Magisk, suhide, Xposed
suhide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/suhide-t3450396
systemless xposed 86.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3897543&d=1475913773
magisk: http://tiny.cc/latestmagisk
6. Boot to system and install Magistk Manager
magisk manager: http://tiny.cc/latestmanager
7. Install XPosed
chimera533 said:
I think I got mine from here: https://megadysk.pl/f/6.11.10
Just scroll down to the Mi Mix one.
There are 3 repositories to the 6.11.10 weekly ROMs at the top of the page here: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-11-10.36056/
As far as I know there are no stable EU builds for the Mi Mix probably because it's so new.
Also I believe the weekly updates show up here: https://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/miui-weekly-rom-releases.103/
The Mi Mix was skipped for 6.11.17 as evidenced by the note at the top of the 6.11.17 thread.
That's about all I know. I highly recommend reading all or most of every link I posted here. I'll confess that if I had, I would've known things like having to flash back to stable before TWRP-ing as well as some other things.
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Thank you so much for your help. I installed the ROM and have had it running for 2 days now. Coming from a HTC 10 (custom ROMed and everything), I;m really not digging MIUI on this phone. Lags so much it's literally driving me crazy. My 2 yrs old LG G2, which also has amazing screen-to-body ratio btw, runs circle around this phone. Really disappointed about this phone due to the software performance issues.
jim380 said:
Thank you so much for your help. I installed the ROM and have had it running for 2 days now. Coming from a HTC 10 (custom ROMed and everything), I;m really not digging MIUI on this phone. Lags so much it's literally driving me crazy. My 2 yrs old LG G2, which also has amazing screen-to-body ratio btw, runs circle around this phone. Really disappointed about this phone due to the software performance issues.
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I don't experience any lags on the original ROM.
From my experience those micro-lags and performance issuese showed up on various devices in my Android past whenever something was wrong with the ROM. A clean flash mostly helped solve the problem.
I'm currently on the original Chinese stable with SuperSu and TWRP. It's blazing fast. What's the reason to flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
underlines said:
I don't experience any lags on the original ROM.
From my experience those micro-lags and performance issuese showed up on various devices in my Android past whenever something was wrong with the ROM. A clean flash mostly helped solve the problem.
I'm currently on the original Chinese stable with SuperSu and TWRP. It's blazing fast. What's the reason to flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
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I had a nightmare trying to get to the EU Rom yesterday, I was mostly successful, however after a reboot i'd lose Touch in both TWRP and System. Thanks to this post from Chimera533 I was finally able to do it!
Anyway the main reason for the EU ROM is to get rid of all the Bloat and Chinese throughout the ROM that you cannot get rid of. It also has Google Services baked in properly so everything works correctly.
I also had a few other little niggles while on the Chinese ROM :-
Purchases from Google Play Movies wouldn't work
No Smart Lock while connected to Android Wear
No way to replace BAIDU and set Google as the search
So far i'm loving the EU Rom, i've not seen any lag at all while using it and pretty much everything seems to work exactly as it should - it has enhanced the MIX experience so much for me - love this thing!
Guys, how do I disable all battery saving optimizations / memory management optimzations? My background apps keep shutting automatically off after a while.
I'm on the default ROM without root (still waiting for developer approval)...
yakuzlin said:
Guys, how do I disable all battery saving optimizations / memory management optimzations? My background apps keep shutting automatically off after a while.
I'm on the default ROM without root (still waiting for developer approval)...
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Go to the battery section & have a look around, you should find several settings for battery management.
You're gonna need root & an app such as Titanium Backup Pro, or, SD Maid Pro to disable a lot of the MIUI & Cheetah Mobile applications.
Fine tuning on a per app basis isn't enough (do not optimize battery savings for the apps you want to work properly, notifications, messaging, etc) .....
I highly recommend flashing the EU ROM, it seems to have better memory management than the Global ROM, but, you'll still need to disable a lot of the MIUI apps & all of the Cheetah Mobile s***ware to get memory management more to what you're used to experiencing.
One other item, go to Developer Options & disable MIUI Optimization, it should be the last item or close to it....
So I have reviewed the excellent threads on unlocking, installing TWRP and rooting the Mi Mix.
Including these
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/help/to-getting-mi-mix-t3504613
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/guide-flash-global-china-rom-root-gapps-t3510592
I've also reviewed http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/development/recovery-official-twrp-xiaomi-mi-mix-t3498960
The problem I can't get around is frozen screen TWRP. I assume I have a TWRP/ROM mismatch as I have no issues with Minimal FB/ADB and actually flashing TWRP. But no combination that I have tried has given me working TWRP.
Any advice or recommendations would be vastly appreciated.
Just to be clear, I have unlocked the boot loader, I have Developer mode and USB Debugging activated. I have tried this with the most recent CN Stable (8.0.11.0) and CN DEV (6.12.8) ROMs and I have tried both TWRP 3.0.2 AND 3.0.2-RC1
Frustrated as this device is near perfect, I just need to get rid of the crapware and make a few Root requiring tweaks
Thanks
J
Aeskulapio said:
So I have reviewed the excellent threads on unlocking, installing TWRP and rooting the Mi Mix.
Including these
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/help/to-getting-mi-mix-t3504613
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/guide-flash-global-china-rom-root-gapps-t3510592
I've also reviewed http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/development/recovery-official-twrp-xiaomi-mi-mix-t3498960
The problem I can't get around is frozen screen TWRP. I assume I have a TWRP/ROM mismatch as I have no issues with Minimal FB/ADB and actually flashing TWRP. But no combination that I have tried has given me working TWRP.
Any advice or recommendations would be vastly appreciated.
Just to be clear, I have unlocked the boot loader, I have Developer mode and USB Debugging activated. I have tried this with the most recent CN Stable (8.0.11.0) and CN DEV (6.12.8) ROMs and I have tried both TWRP 3.0.2 AND 3.0.2-RC1
Frustrated as this device is near perfect, I just need to get rid of the crapware and make a few Root requiring tweaks
Thanks
J
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If you're on the latest EU ROM (weekly updates),you need the latest (EU) TWRP RC2 (link is in the OP) :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/development/recovery-official-twrp-xiaomi-mi-mix-t3498960
Read the entire thread if need be,you'll see myself & others had the frozen TWRP on the Dec2 EU ROM (weekly) update & it was remedied by the RC2 update to (EU) twrp
If you're running anything else,IDK,I switched to the EU ROM ASAP & haven't looked back,it's gonna be my daily driver until CM 13/14 (hopefully) becomes available.
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If you're running anything else,IDK,I switched to the EU ROM ASAP & haven't looked back,it's gonna be my daily driver until CM 13/14 (hopefully) becomes available.
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Thank you brother. I saw you posts when you mentioned having the same problem. Unfortunately I'm having this issue on the CN Stable ROM. Can I install the EU Weekly through the Installer app on the MIX? Or do I have to use the MIFlash tool?
Thanks
J
Aeskulapio said:
Thank you brother. I saw you posts when you mentioned having the same problem. Unfortunately I'm having this issue on the CN Stable ROM. Can I install the EU Weekly through the Installer app on the MIX? Or do I have to use the MIFlash tool?
Thanks
J
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@RMXO had a similar issue when stuck w/an unresponsive TWRP & managed to get his phone/TWRP functional again before @jcadduono updated the EU TWRP.
Take a look at @RMXO's posts in that thread on how he got back to a working TWRP.
KOLIOSIS said:
@RMXO had a similar issue when stuck w/an unresponsive TWRP & managed to get his phone/TWRP functional again before @jcadduono updated the EU TWRP.
Take a look at @RMXO's posts in that thread on how he got back to a working TWRP.
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I'm starting to wonder of the current CN Stable TWRP is unable to work with 8.0.11.0 much like the problem you had and RMXO had with the last EU release. I had backup of the stable CN ROM that works for me for now, but I'd really like to get Adaway and Titanium Backup working
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J
I had China stable 8.0.11.0 and I managed to get it working, you need to use built-in updater and download EU rom manually and put it in your device. Then use the updater to update. I had to do it twice as first time i still got China stuffs which i didn't wipe. So if you have problem, update it once to EU, then wipe/factory reset the phone and flash again to make sure it's all clean.
A good indicator of success will be google play store, after flashing EU rom, if you don't see google play store, it means you have to wipe and flash again.
wu5262 said:
I had China stable 8.0.11.0 and I managed to get it working, you need to use built-in updater and download EU rom manually and put it in your device.
A good indicator of success will be google play store, after flashing EU rom, if you don't see google play store, it means you have to wipe and flash again.
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I tried to manually install the EU Rom (xiaomi.eu_multi_MIMix_6.12.8_v8-6.0.zip) through the Installer and I received a "can't verify" error. Is this the EU ROM you mean? If so did you have to do anything special to get it to flash?
Thanks
J
Aeskulapio said:
I tried to manually install the EU Rom (xiaomi.eu_multi_MIMix_6.12.8_v8-6.0.zip) through the Installer and I received a "can't verify" error. Is this the EU ROM you mean? If so did you have to do anything special to get it to flash?
Thanks
J
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I've used nothing but TWRP to install ROMs on this device,once for the initial switch from the Global (vendor) ROM to the EU (weekly) ROM & twice to update the EU ROM.
FWIW,my MIX was bootloader unlocked out of the box.
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OK, I need some clarification please. I just ordered the phone on Swappa and will have it soon but I would like to have a plan in place for reaching my goal...A rooted phone with TWRP (don't know about what ROM yet)
I'm not sure what software will be on this phone when I get it (EU or Chinese stock/dev) but does that make a difference when attempting to put TWRP on the phone? Also, are there still 2 separate versions or is there just one now?
Also in regards to the initial root and TWRP procedure is it not possible to have SU zip on your phone beforehand or does it have to be transferred from your computer while in TWRP? Finally, the verity no opt encrypt zip must be flashed regardless of whether you are rooting or not? Many thanks for any and all help!
SantinoInc said:
I'm not sure what software will be on this phone when I get it (EU or Chinese stock/dev) but does that make a difference when attempting to put TWRP on the phone? Also, are there still 2 separate versions or is there just one now?
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Presently if you read max of the posts in major of the forums, you will find out there are three versions of ROM majorly (removing Chinese dev from the list as many don't seem to be on this) - If you are buying the phone from a reseller and not directly from xiaomi, mostly you will end up with Vendor ROM
1) Vendor ROM global (8.08.0 something version) which comes with very less bloatware and Google play services. Sometimes people said their bootloader was unlocked and for some its not. (mine was locked, so had to apply for unlock - It took 3 days to get the approval).
PLEASE NOTE THAT MANY TIMES THIS VENDOR ROM HAS A "NOTES APP" WITH TROJAN ON IT. MALWARE BYTES DETECTS THIS. HENCE I DECIDED TO GET OFF IT.
2) Chinese stable ROM - The official miui ROM. It has OTA updates but comes with bloatware and quite cumbersome to use for a non Chinese person like me or thats what I felt. If you really want to use Chinese stable (and still need google apps) there is a guide which is available some where in one of the forums, right now can't get hold of it somehow.
3) EU ROM (weekly updates - I believe to be done manually) - This one is so far the best I have used and very less bloatware (there is "Qunar travel" and one Chinese app that came with it. I simply uninstalled them blindly). Comes with google play services and you can download the rest from google store.
My journey so far is Vendor ROM --> Chinese Stable --> EU ROM (Non-root)
Why i didn't go directly from Vendor ROM to EU ROM is because
1) some of the users had issues with TWRP's touch non-responsiveness.
2) I want to see what is there on Chinese Stable before going to EU ROM, so that I can do a comparison.
For Vendor ROM to Chinese Stable use the guide below (by @satishp)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/kindly-help-flashing-to-china-stable-t3528652
For Chinese Stable (or if you want to try from Vendor ROM directly to EU ROM) to EU ROM use the guide below (by @underlines)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/guide-flash-global-china-rom-root-gapps-t3510592
Following the steps exactly in the above two guides, I was able to install EU ROM without any issues.
SantinoInc said:
Also in regards to the initial root and TWRP procedure is it not possible to have SU zip on your phone beforehand or does it have to be transferred from your computer while in TWRP?
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When you enable developer options on your phone and enable USB debugging, then I believe when you connect your phone to laptop/desktop it should connect using MTP and should be seen as device. So I guess you can copy the zip before hand on to the phone.
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Finally, the verity no opt encrypt zip must be flashed regardless of whether you are rooting or not? Many thanks for any and all help!
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All the guides mention that whenever you want to install the EU ROM without root, the dm-verity is compulsory to flash before reboot.
Hope this helps!!. Enjoy your MIX.
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Presently if you read max of the posts in major of the forums, you will find out there are three versions of ROM majorly (removing Chinese dev from the list as many don't seem to be on this) - If you are buying the phone from a reseller and not directly from xiaomi, mostly you will end up with Vendor ROM
1) Vendor ROM global (8.08.0 something version) which comes with very less bloatware and Google play services. Sometimes people said their bootloader was unlocked and for some its not. (mine was locked, so had to apply for unlock - It took 3 days to get the approval).
PLEASE NOTE THAT MANY TIMES THIS VENDOR ROM HAS A "NOTES APP" WITH TROJAN ON IT. MALWARE BYTES DETECTS THIS. HENCE I DECIDED TO GET OFF IT.
2) Chinese stable ROM - The official miui ROM. It has OTA updates but comes with bloatware and quite cumbersome to use for a non Chinese person like me or thats what I felt. If you really want to use Chinese stable (and still need google apps) there is a guide which is available some where in one of the forums, right now can't get hold of it somehow.
3) EU ROM (weekly updates - I believe to be done manually) - This one is so far the best I have used and very less bloatware (there is "Qunar travel" and one Chinese app that came with it. I simply uninstalled them blindly). Comes with google play services and you can download the rest from google store.
My journey so far is Vendor ROM --> Chinese Stable --> EU ROM (Non-root)
Why i didn't go directly from Vendor ROM to EU ROM is because
1) some of the users had issues with TWRP's touch non-responsiveness.
2) I want to see what is there on Chinese Stable before going to EU ROM, so that I can do a comparison.
For Vendor ROM to Chinese Stable use the guide below (by @satishp)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/kindly-help-flashing-to-china-stable-t3528652
For Chinese Stable (or if you want to try from Vendor ROM directly to EU ROM) to EU ROM use the guide below (by @underlines)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/guide-flash-global-china-rom-root-gapps-t3510592
Following the steps exactly in the above two guides, I was able to install EU ROM without any issues.
When you enable developer options on your phone and enable USB debugging, then I believe when you connect your phone to laptop/desktop it should connect using MTP and should be seen as device. So I guess you can copy the zip before hand on to the phone.
All the guides mention that whenever you want to install the EU ROM with/without root, the dm-verity is compulsory to flash before reboot.
Hope this helps!!. Enjoy your MIX.
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Wow, thank you so much for that very thorough answer! I will be getting the phone tomorrow and my goal will be to get the EU Rom on my phone with TWRP and Xposed.
One more small question. So if I happen to get the touch screen freeze (in TWRP or after system reboot) how do you recover from this situation?
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One more small question. So if I happen to get the touch screen freeze (in TWRP or after system reboot) how do you recover from this situation?
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I believe you have to go to Chinese Stable then using MiFlash or install one more version of TWRP which is compatible with Chinese ROM and then other steps. (one of the guides mentions these too)
But my suggestion is simply follow the steps in both the guides, go to chinese stable and then to EU ROM. Its worth the 15 min extra effort as surely i can tell this will not have problems and I believe you can definitely got to root/xposed too finally.
There is a small typo in my previous answer (I corrected it now). Sincere apologies for the same.
Dm-verity is not needed if you are going to root. If you flash to EU ROM and don't want root, then install dm-verity. This is as per the guide mentioned in my last answer.
Hope this helps.
Hi all.
I've just bought this device. When I first launched it, it was on miui9, i updated to miui 10 stable 10.0.3.0 (8.1 Android) via ota. Then, I saw that I could also upgrade to miui 11. However, I've read that battery is worse than Miui 10 so I don't know If I should install it.
I've unlocked the recovery because I want to try some custom roms but I'm a bit scared of the anti-rollback.
Could you please tell me what should I do?
Thanks all.
Before you do anything you need to figure out which device you own. You bought it and you already unlocked the bootloader? That generally takes 360 hours, are you sure it wasn't already unlocked? If it was unlocked you probably have a Chinese device, and in that case be extremely careful about not relocking the bootloader. if the phone is not bound to your account ( linked to you personally) then you could brick it and have no recourse.
if you unlocked it yourself and you have a locked device , then don't worry about anti-rollback. So far it has not been implemented. Next, you heard wrong about Miui 11, its battery is equally as good. Although the best version of Miui and currently the most stable Android 10 overall is Xiaomi.EU which is a custom rom based on the china beta but globalised, with Google services.
Again do your homework, avoid extremely old posts that are no longer relevant. Never attempting upgrading your screen refresh and never flash someone else's persist image and you will be good. This community has tons of infor...read a lot and take your own notes.
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Before you do anything you need to figure out which device you own. You bought it and you already unlocked the bootloader? That generally takes 360 hours, are you sure it wasn't already unlocked? If it was unlocked you probably have a Chinese device, and in that case be extremely careful about not relocking the bootloader. if the phone is not bound to your account ( linked to you personally) then you could brick it and have no recourse.
if you unlocked it yourself and you have a locked device , then don't worry about anti-rollback. So far it has not been implemented. Next, you heard wrong about Miui 11, its battery is equally as good. Although the best version of Miui and currently the most stable Android 10 overall is Xiaomi.EU which is a custom rom based on the china beta but globalised, with Google services.
Again do your homework, avoid extremely old posts that are no longer relevant. Never attempting upgrading your screen refresh and never flash someone else's persist image and you will be good. This community has tons of infor...read a lot and take your own notes.
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Hi Thanks for your reply.
My device is global version (not just global ROM, I do know the difference)
I am unlocked the bootloader using the Xiaomi official tool, i had to activate the developer tools on the device and check the bootloader status and the button which was there ( U know what I mean). Besides, when I turn on the device it says unlocked.
I've read that miui 11 has kinda bad sot because of miui and/or the bug with WhatsApp. So I don't know if I have to update via ota and If I do that I don't know if I will have any problems while trying to install a custom ROM.
I've had a Xiaomi before so I know that I shouldn't install strange zips.
Thank you
Boiisxu said:
Hi Thanks for your reply.
My device is global version (not just global ROM, I do know the difference)
I am unlocked the bootloader using the Xiaomi official tool, i had to activate the developer tools on the device and check the bootloader status and the button which was there ( U know what I mean). Besides, when I turn on the device it says unlocked.
I've read that miui 11 has kinda bad sot because of miui and/or the bug with WhatsApp. So I don't know if I have to update via ota and If I do that I don't know if I will have any problems while trying to install a custom ROM.
I've had a Xiaomi before so I know that I shouldn't install strange zips.
Thank you
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Yes, the last build of Xiaomi.EU had worse SOT than usual ( about 5 hours. However, the issue was only with one of the weekly builds) I personally resolved that issue for myself by flashing the kernel from the previous build. Also, Xiaomi.EU is updated every Thursday so later today there will be a new build that will very likely resolve the issue. On the other hand the stable builds do not have an issue with SOT. At least not in my experience. I have averaged around 8 to 9 hours SOT.
I don't use Whatsapp, so I can't help you with that.
Since you were previously on stock you will need to backup your data, if you are still using stock, backup to MiCloud as well. This way if you use a Miui based rom you can quickly restored most of your data and partial settings. You will also need to format use storage (type yes, reboot to recovery)
tsongming said:
Yes, the last build of Xiaomi.EU had worse SOT than usual ( about 5 hours. However, the issue was only with one of the weekly builds) I personally resolved that issue for myself by flashing the kernel from the previous build. Also, Xiaomi.EU is updated every Thursday so later today there will be a new build that will very likely resolve the issue. On the other hand the stable builds do not have an issue with SOT. At least not in my experience. I have averaged around 8 to 9 hours SOT.
I don't use Whatsapp, so I can't help you with that.
Since you were previously on stock you will need to backup your data, if you are still using stock, backup to MiCloud as well. This way if you use a Miui based rom you can quickly restored most of your data and partial settings. You will also need to format use storage (type yes, reboot to recovery)
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I see.
I've just updated to miui 11 stable via ota.
BTW, Is TWRP the best recovery for this device isn't it? I've read that exist other types of recovery (not CWM but someones).
And my last question, I cannot find which version of gcam fits on miui 11 (Android Pie). Is there any thread, telegram channel?
Thanks for all.
Boiisxu said:
I see.
I've just updated to miui 11 stable via ota.
BTW, Is TWRP the best recovery for this device isn't it? I've read that exist other types of recovery (not CWM but someones).
And my last question, I cannot find which version of gcam fits on miui 11 (Android Pie). Is there any thread, telegram channel?
Thanks for all.
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Personally I use the TWRP that I posted here : I talked to a few friends / android developers on other devices and several of them believe that this a TWRP issue.
I have not had any more of these issues since using this TWRP https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80952013&postcount=121
If using AOSP, you should use the official version.
The best Gcam ( I Think is by Sanity )
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-san1ty/
FYI the builds made for the Poco F1 and Razer 2 are also compatible.
tsongming said:
Personally I use the TWRP that I posted here : I talked to a few friends / android developers on other devices and several of them believe that this a TWRP issue.
I have not had any more of these issues since using this TWRP https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80952013&postcount=121
If using AOSP, you should use the official version.
The best Gcam ( I Think is by Sanity )
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-san1ty/
FYI the builds made for the Poco F1 and Razer 2 are also compatible.
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Thank for helping me.
As I've posted in the official twrp thread, I was able to install twrp and get to it but after power off the phone and try to get there again miui recovery was there instead.
I've installed the last build of twrp 3.3.1.1.
Maybe If I install magisk via TWRP I will have twrp *forever*.(?)
Thank you man
Boiisxu said:
Thank for helping me.
As I've posted in the official twrp thread, I was able to install twrp and get to it but after power off the phone and try to get there again miui recovery was there instead.
I've installed the last build of twrp 3.3.1.1.
Maybe If I install magisk via TWRP I will have twrp *forever*.(?)
Thank you man
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No problem.
After installing TWRP, you must initially install Root and then reboot to recovery.
Often you will see a message asking if you want to install the TWRP manager, click those boxes and then proceed to rebooting to recovery.
If you are using the full stock Rom, you must have root, so anytime that you flash the official Global stable rom, or an update, flash root again...unless you see via the Recovery terminal that Root maintained it's persistence.
tsongming said:
No problem.
After installing TWRP, you must initially install Root and then reboot to recovery.
Often you will see a message asking if you want to install the TWRP manager, click those boxes and then proceed to rebooting to recovery.
If you are using the full stock Rom, you must have root, so anytime that you flash the official Global stable rom, or an update, flash root again...unless you see via the Recovery terminal that Root maintained it's persistence.
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Okey, I'll try tomorrow again.
Thanks.