Now that google has patched systemless root, are there any more benefits to it compared to the regular root?
If you're on full stock you can unroot and flash ota's. That's about it afaik
Raymondlikesroot said:
Now that google has patched systemless root, are there any more benefits to it compared to the regular root?
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It's currently the only method to root stock rom and kernel. And leaving /system read only and untouched seems to be marshmallow's flavor if you will.
I have been on systemless for awhile now so perhaps it has changed but dont you need a modified boot image to avoid the corrupt phone message?
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I have been on systemless for awhile now so perhaps it has changed but dont you need a modified boot image to avoid the corrupt phone message?
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"moddified boot image" is another way of saying custom kernel. whats wrong with custom kernels?
simms22 said:
"moddified boot image" is another way of saying custom kernel. whats wrong with custom kernels?
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Nothing at all, I run franco's. But not having to mess with it if you are running stock is an advantage. A small one but that is what the op was asking.
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Nothing at all, I run franco's. But not having to mess with it if you are running stock is an advantage. A small one but that is what the op was asking.
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ops opinion then, as i enjoy custom kernels more :angel:
android pay works without having to toggle SU. saves a few clicks
synisterwolf said:
android pay works without having to toggle SU. saves a few clicks
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not anymore, it doesnt since google shut it down for systemless root.
I wonder if you can use your google wallet card, within the android pay system and would it still work? I will have to test this...
simms22 said:
not anymore, it doesnt since google shut it down for systemless root.
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On latest pn and I just used it to pay for dinner.
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On latest pn and I just used it to pay for dinner.
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few possiblilities:
1. You haven't received the rollout for the new safetynet api
2. Your payment wasn't checked with safetynet this time.
3. You lucky booger.
I was going to say, they may not have "updated" android pay yet. I wonder if you don't update how that will work. Tbh, the systemless root does seem pretty moot at this point unless you love OTAs.
It is gonna get to the point that people will have to pick either root/custom roms or using things like android pay. Not a big deal personally as all mobile payments are blocked in every store here
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Now that I am rooted what sorts of things can I do? I have had an iPhone for 5 years and jailbreaking was really simple. I want to get a better understanding how flashing roms and where I should start off at as to getting so more cool stuff on my phone.
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Now that I am rooted what sorts of things can I do? I have had an iPhone for 5 years and jailbreaking was really simple. I want to get a better understanding how flashing roms and where I should start off at as to getting so more cool stuff on my phone.
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Well you can't flash anything cause your bootloader is locked. You can do some pretty cool stuff still with xposed framework and the wanam module. Theres a thread about it in the ATT themes and app section. You can do a lot more with root, xposed and wanam than you could ever dream of with a apple device.
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Well you can't flash anything cause your bootloader is locked. You can do some pretty cool stuff still with xposed framework and the wanam module. Theres a thread about it in the ATT themes and app section. You can do a lot more with root, xposed and wanam than you could ever dream of with a apple device.
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Just be very careful not to get into an unrecoverable boot loop. There is no way to get back to mj5 right now.
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Now that I am rooted what sorts of things can I do? I have had an iPhone for 5 years and jailbreaking was really simple. I want to get a better understanding how flashing roms and where I should start off at as to getting so more cool stuff on my phone.
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What method did you use?
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yah im curious what method too.
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I used kingoroot works great I don't worry to much about what people say about it. It gave me what I wanted and it works on slot of devices =)
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I used kingoroot works great I don't worry to much about what people say about it. It gave me what I wanted and it works on slot of devices =)
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Kingoroot alway says root failed for me after I got the update and lost root. Is there any trick or anything I'm doing wrong to get it to work?
Kingo root. Its literally the easiest thing ever. This is my first android device and I haven't seen a single problem with it or the Roms I've flashed.
I'm having issues with Kingo root -- can someone explain what MJ5 stands for?
When I use kingo I simply get scriptError
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Now that I am rooted what sorts of things can I do? I have had an iPhone for 5 years and jailbreaking was really simple. I want to get a better understanding how flashing roms and where I should start off at as to getting so more cool stuff on my phone.
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To getting so more stuff is now available via OTA and gained around 27MB in size to download. If your device was rooted with ‘root de la vega’ then you must see to it first on how to kepp your device rooted for you are about to end your root privileged once you took this update.
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I'm trying to get Android Pay to work after unlocking. I've tried Root Cloak module on Xposed, which solved similar issues on rooted phones in the past, but no luck.
I keep getting the error message below.
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Read the chroma thread for nexus 6
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Read the chroma thread for nexus 6
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Link?
Sorry 6p, just Google Chroma 6P xda
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rlmesq said:
I'm trying to get Android Pay to work after unlocking. I've tried Root Cloak module on Xposed, which solved similar issues on rooted phones in the past, but no luck.
I keep getting the error message below.
Any suggestions?
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Just go to SuperSU and disable supersu. Then go to settings, app and open Android pay in all app tap. Then erase cache and data. Then open android Pay and tray the setting again.
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Just go to SuperSU and disable supersu. Then go to settings, app and open Android pay in all app tap. Then erase cache and data. Then open android Pay and tray the setting again.
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If you use xposed this app doesn't work.
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Follow the instructions at the end of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=64199915
Essentially you have to flash unSU.zip to remove the current super user files, and flash the systemless supersu zip.
EDIT: Make sure you take a backup of your current ROM in TWRP, because I don't believe the systemless root has been tested on the turbo yet. If you want to wait a couple hours, I am planning on trying this out myself it a little while.
jwort93 said:
Follow the instructions at the end of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=64199915
Essentially you have to flash unSU.zip to remove the current super user files, and flash the systemless supersu zip.
EDIT: Make sure you take a backup of your current ROM in TWRP, because I don't believe the systemless root has been tested on the turbo yet. If you want to wait a couple hours, I am planning on trying this out myself it a little while.
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Systemless only work with SDK 23, it mean Android 6.0.
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Its like Samsung saying that the system is modified. Payment doesn't work maybe because Google doesn't want to take liability for a modified rom doing something wrong.
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Android pay won't work on any rom that is not CTS compliant. That means, Samsung, LG, OnePlus, Cyanogen OS, HTC, etc will work. Custom ROMs will not work.
You'll also need to disable root. I use SuperSU and just disable root when I need to use pay. Works just fine.
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Android pay won't work on any rom that is not CTS compliant. That means, Samsung, LG, OnePlus, Cyanogen OS, HTC, etc will work. Custom ROMs will not work.
You'll also need to disable root. I use SuperSU and just disable root when I need to use pay. Works just fine.
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I guess it's hit and miss. I'm on stock, bootloader unlocked, and I've tried it by disabling root - even uninstalled SuperSU and cleaned the cache in TWRP. I figured it's TWRP or that it's unlocked.
Is Xposed installed too?
Hello Guys,....I am looking for a modified stock mmb29v kernel for root. "NOT SYSTEMLESS ROOT." It is for my wife's N6. She really likes the Layers Manager and Themes. But doesn't want to compromise the Google Stock Experience.
I have a Nexus 6P,....I rooted and used a modified stock kernel for root on my Nexus 6P. "NOT SYSTEMLESS ROOT." Layers Manager works great on the stock experience.
So,...if anyone has a link. Thank you so much.
That's like an oxymoron....."modified" "stock" kernel.........usually it's either "stock" or it isn't.
Here we go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3306684
[UPDATED 3-7-16][BUILD MMB29V]Stock modified boot.img for regular root/encryptable
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Here we go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3306684
[UPDATED 3-7-16][BUILD MMB29V]Stock modified boot.img for regular root/encryptable
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the referenced link goes to a nexus 6p kernel. Is this ok to use on a nexus 6?
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the referenced link goes to a nexus 6p kernel. Is this ok to use on a nexus 6?
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just reading up...I was updating to the latest stock images from google and had the same concerns with regards to using layers and xposed. I used to use the gerard kernel, except the developer cited that he was only building kernels for systemless.
As the OP posted the initial question, then posted the reference link, it was a bit baffling, as I've never seen anyone flash a kernel for another device on to their current (in this case, OP says he found a 6P kernel for his wife's 6)
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just reading up...I was updating to the latest stock images from google and had the same concerns with regards to using layers and xposed. I used to use the [link=http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/kernel-stock-kernel-root-color-control-t3218958]gerard kerne[/link], except the developer cited that he was only building kernels for systemless.
As the OP posted the initial question, then posted the reference link, it was a bit baffling, as I've never seen anyone flash a kernel for another device on to their current (in this case, OP says he found a 6P kernel for his wife's 6)
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That would be a bad idea.
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the referenced link goes to a nexus 6p kernel. Is this ok to use on a nexus 6?
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No. I want a kernel that has the same features as the link I posted. The one posted is for Nexus 6P. I AM LOOKING FOR ONE FOR THE NEXUS 6 (SHAMU).
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No. I want a kernel that has the same features as the link I posted. The one posted is for Nexus 6P. I AM LOOKING FOR ONE FOR THE NEXUS 6 (SHAMU).
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ok, that makes more sense. I'm actually looking for the same thing, a stock-like kernel that will allow for a /system root install. I use to use a gerard kernel, but as of the latest version, the developer only supports systemless, which doesn't work for me as it keeps throwing an NFC error on first boot after installing the xposed framework...
looks to be promising...developer did comment today that he'll be considering creating a system and systemless kernel version again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65738828&postcount=310
So today I went out and got me a Note T-mobile Note 4 off CL. The jackhole I bought it from forgot to mention the phone was modded but anyways that's Craigslist right? [emoji16] so I went and tried to factory reset which took me to a screen I believe is a custom recovery but want to verify. There was no SU or any root apps installed. Since I was going to mod phone anyway I'm not too worried but would like an Idea of what should do as far as updating/changing since I'm new to Samsung forums. Attached pic of recovery and my about phone. Any help much appreciated!
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So today I went out and got me a Note T-mobile Note 4 off CL. The jackhole I bought it from forgot to mention the phone was modded but anyways that's Craigslist right? [emoji16] so I went and tried to factory reset which took me to a screen I believe is a custom recovery but want to verify. There was no SU or any root apps installed. Since I was going to mod phone anyway I'm not too worried but would like an Idea of what should do as far as updating/changing since I'm new to Samsung forums. Attached pic of recovery and my about phone. Any help much appreciated!View attachment 3761421View attachment 3761422
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Is that cwm? Don't recognize it. Since you are on DOK2, grab it from sammobile and use Odin to flash it. Will give you a completely fresh start.
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It's definitely modded since seandroid is permissive. That recovery though seems to be the stock one of build DOK2.
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It's definitely modded since seandroid is permissive. That recovery though seems to be the stock one of build DOK2.
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OK. I didn't recognize it as I am on 4.4.4 and have had twrp on it since day 1.
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I just rooted thus phone for the first time and flashed ovrdrive V5. Not to shabby.
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It's definitely modded since seandroid is permissive. That recovery though seems to be the stock one of build DOK2.
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Is that cwm? Don't recognize it. Since you are on DOK2, grab it from sammobile and use Odin to flash it. Will give you a completely fresh start.
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Perfect I was trying to figure out if that was the stock recovery so I would know where to start. I was also confused because it looks like CWM but I'm going to end up jus flashing full DOK2 .tar and start all over. Thank you both!
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Yeah that looks like cmw and AEL is a custom kernel I believe.
Do you guys have uncertified in device certification from the playstore?
I never saw this on my previous nexus devices!
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My bootloader is unlocked and i'm using stock OOS rooted with ElementalX kernel.
I'm all stock and my device is "Certified".
Means you are failing safetynet. Some apps won't even appear.
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milan187 said:
Means you are failing safetynet. Some apps won't even appear.
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So what's the cause?apps like?
And is there a solution?
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I'm all stock and my device is "Certified".
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By stock you mean locked bootloader and unrooted?
Midomad said:
So what's the cause?
Or is there a solution?
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Anything that breaks Safetynet. Most commonly root or even unlocked bootloader without a custom kernel (on some devices).
I don't have this device right now so I'm not sure if unlocked bootloader effects it but it does on Nexus/Pixel.
If it's root there are some ways to hide it possibly.
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milan187 said:
Anything that breaks Safetynet. Most commonly root or even unlocked bootloader without a custom kernel (on some devices).
I don't have this device right now so I'm not sure if unlocked bootloader effects it but it does on Nexus/Pixel.
If it's root there are some ways to hide it possibly.
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Thanks,as you can see i'm rooted with unlocked bootloader, what ways can hide it?
With my N5X i didn't get that problem.
Midomad said:
Thanks,as you can see i'm rooted with unlocked bootloader what ways can hide it?
With my N5X i didn't get that problem.
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Its new maybe less then a month since they started doing it with PlayStore.
I know on Nexus you can use magisk to hide root. I have not looked into details. You will have to research if it's possible on your device.
Unlocked bootloader is easy. All custom kernels have a patch to hide it.
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I'm on OOS 4.0.3, unlocked bootloader, rooted with SuperSU, Magisk installed and with a custom (Franco r12) kernel. Play store is stating that my device is uncertified as well.
My banking app closes itself whenever I launch it, which I'm assuming is because I tripped safetynet. Oddly enough, when I uninstalled and re-installed the banking app, it seems to work now. While I can still update and download free apps on Play Store, I can't seem to buy paid apps. Whenever I get to the payment window and click "Buy", the Play Store app closes itself.
I had all of the above modifications while I was on OOS 4.0.2 and I didn't notice any problems. Purchasing apps worked fine before updating. I'm also getting the DM-Verity message during boot now, which I didn't have before updating.
I'm uncertified too but my banking apps work tdbank and capital one apps... On oos 4.0.3 rooted with ElementalX
Had this for a few weeks already.
With Magisk and Magisk hide should make it show up as Certified.
If not, clear the Play Store's app data and it should fix it.
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Had this for a few weeks already.
With Magisk and Magisk hide should make it show up as Certified.
If not, clear the Play Store's app data and it should fix it.
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I'm using SuperSu as root!
Magisk is the only way?
Thread closed at OP's request.